by Carl, 01/02/2013, 8:04 AM

- Happy New Year!

- Comparing the current budget deal to the Gore plan is interesting, but the early 2000′s were very different than now in terms of the economy and in terms of the deficit.

- Who knew the House would be the more dysfunctional body?

- So obviously, it needs More members.

- Get well soon, Hillary.

- The Atom Bowl

- Where to find Stephanie Miller and Thom Hartman.

21 Responses to “Open Thread 1/2”

1. Serial conservative spews:

For some reason I read this and thought of YLB, and not just because it was a woman trying this:

Tracy Browning – Jailed After Repeatedly Trying To Purchase iPads With Food Stamp Card

http://www.theweeklyvice.com/2012/12/tracy-browning-jailed-after-repeatedly.html

If we’re going to give out free shit, shouldn’t it be with no strings attached? They should be able to buy booze, cigs, 420, and iPads with it. Right, YLB?

2. EvergreenRailfan spews:

I would not mind that increasing the size of the house a little bit, provided that some form of proportional representation. I would prefer that be done by States Choice, as obviously states with fewer representatives would not be able to use the same system as bigger states. Ranked Voting works good for 1-2 seats, Irish Single Transferable Vote for smaller multi-seat districts. Texas, California, new York, Ohio, Illinois, Florida, and Pennsylvania would work good with a variant of the Mixed Member Proportional system(as used in Germany, New Zealand, and the regional governments in Scotland, Wales, and the London City Council in the UK). A bigger Congress with Winner Take All and partisan gerrymandering would not be workable, and even our independent redistricting system used in Washington has it’s limits. (I still think the 1st would have gone Republican if it were not for Koster’s own contribution to the Candidates that make a bad comment about rape club). Washington came out 6-4 Democrats.

3. rhp6033 spews:

Nice to hear that Stephanie Miller found a radio home in Seattle after CBS Radio converted her existing station to the sports-talk format (as if we needed another one).

But the 3-5 p.m. time slot is a terrible one. Hers is a morning show, and it is best played during the morning commute time.

That being said, she’s had nothing but good things to say about the local people at CBS Radio who had nothing to do with the conversion decision. She’s still got lots of markets available, and has regularly beaten Limbaugh and Hannity in major markets where she’s been head-to-head (Limbaugh and Hannity tend to run for the mid-morning radio slots not long after she appears in their market).

Still hoping for a better long-term solution for her show in Seattle, it has a big following here.

By the way, did Serial read the articles about how Hannity’s ratings have plummeted since all his predictions about the election were proven false?

4. rhp6033 spews:

I don’t see adding new members to Congress as really helping the problem. With all due respect to Goldy, it’s an attempt to argue that it would make Gerrymandering more difficult without going through incredible gymnastics. But that hasn’t stopped politicians from doing that before.

It’s always been interesting to see the attempt at gerrymandering in the southern states. In those states, it’s not just a party issue. It’s an attempt to segregate the black vote so it has a little impact as possible on the elections.

5. herzog spews:

If we’re going to give out free shit, shouldn’t it be with no strings attached?

I’m sure that wallstreet, the military-industrial complex and the corporate welfare whores would give you no argument on that

6. YLB spews:

If we’re going to give out free shit, shouldn’t it be with no strings attached? They should be able to buy booze, cigs, 420, and iPads with it. Right, YLB?

Heh. If it was a Bushmaster it’d be ok right silly Bob?

Food assistance is for food only last I looked..

Poor mentally bankrupt tool Bob.

7. YLB spews:

A better link for Bushmaster sales..

Get ‘em while they’re hot Bob!

Wouldn’t want the “community organizer” to grab them from you would you?

9. Serial conservative spews:

@ 3

By the way, did Serial read the articles about how Hannity’s ratings have plummeted since all his predictions about the election were proven false?

Who’s Hannity?

I’m curious, since you brought it up, about ratings for everyone else post-election.

I suspect that everyone’s ratings have plummeted. I also note that HA comments are way down since, say, November 20th or so.

Is the decline in ratings specific to Hannity or is his decline similar to what others are experiencing? Finally, do you have a link to these myriad articles, none of which I’ve come across in my own reading?

10. rhp6033 spews:

# 9: Since you asked, I saw multiple articles yesterday, and this one today:

Bad News for Fox News? Hannity’s Ratings plummet

A relevent quote from the article:

“…In the days after (the election), according to Nielsen ratings, Hannity’s nightly audience plummeted to 1.95 million. He lost nearly 50 percent of his viewers, more than 50 percent in the coveted 25-54 age group.

“The O’Reilly Factor” also saw a drop, but not as severe. BillO dropped from 4.135 million nightly viewers to 3.049 million after the election. He’s restarted an old war — the “war on Christmas” — presumably in the hopes of getting them back.

By contrast, the progressive lineup at MSNBC, while its ratings are below those at right-thinking Fox News, held onto its viewers after re-election of America’s 44th president. In fact, a pair of MSNBC programs — The Rachel Maddow Show and The Last Word With Lawrence O’Donnell — have inched ahead of Hannity in viewers between 25 and 54 years of age…..”

11. rhp6033 spews:

Chuck Todd pointed out that the “Fiscal Cliff” compromise showed the Republican Party in dissaray. The House Speaker (Boener) voted for it (without endorsement), but the Republican Majority Leader (Eric Cantor) voted against it, as did the majority whip and deputy whip. But enough Republicans voted for it, along with most Democrats, to enact it.

That leaves the leadership in the House facing off against Republican leadership in the Senate. So who really is in charge of this party? Right now, it appears that no one is.

But we can’t take comfort in that. Remember early 2009, when it looked like the Republicans would become the Whig party of the 21st century? Then in 2010 we were too complacent, didn’t turn out, and they took over the House. Time to renew our efforts to take back the House, and retain control of the Senate – preferably with a 60+ seat majority.

12. rhp6033 spews:

Surpisingly, Chris Christie is appearing to be the most reasonable among the Republicans. He expressed his dissapointment (anger?) at the Republican majority in the House failing to schedule a vote on the bill providing relief for Hurricane Sandy victims.

“”There is only one group to blame for the continued suffering of these innocent victims: the House majority and their speaker, John Boehner,” he said. “This is not a Republican or Democratic issue. Natural disasters happen in red states and blue states and states with Democratic governors and Republican governors. We respond to innocent victims of natural disasters, not as Republicans or Democrats, but as Americans. Or at least we did until last night. Last night, politics was placed before oaths to serve our citizens. For me, it was disappointing and disgusting to watch.”

Chris Christie finds House Republicans “Dissapointing and Disgusting to watch”

13. EvergreenRailfan spews:

RHP@3,

I was looking at CBS Radio Seattle’s facebook post in my facebook news feed on that, and they said please don’t send them any complaints, it was a decision made in NY. Also, another conservative talker in Boston flipped, to music. When the cat was let out of the bag on 1090′s switch, I had begun looking at internet options, and got a tablet for Christmas, and on Tune-in, wCPT(Chicago), WHMP(Northampton, Mass), KJFK(Reno), KTNF(Minneapolis), KRXA(Monterrey/Carmel Valley).

Thom Hartmann was smart to have his program syndicated through several platforms, for-profit stations(Dial Global), non-profit stations(Pacifica), cable tv(Public Access, via Free Speech TV).

14. YLB spews:

Silly Bob was gloating a couple days back about a couple of “occupy activists” busted for weapons..

No silly Bob, the couple were sad heroin addicts (from well-to-do families) busted for doing what junkies do – stealing stuff (a backpack with credit cards) in order to get more drugs.

They had 7 grams of an explosive (a little more than it takes to blow up a couple bricks..) And a cache of guns which wouldn’t draw a second glance in tea bagger households.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2255609/Morgan-Gliedman-Aaron-Greene-junkies-terrorists-police-say.html

Were they a little nutty? No doubt.. Drugs have that effect on people’s minds.. Were they representative of the Occupy movement? Only in idiot right wing minds obviously.

Silly Bob caught carrying water for right wing horseshit – again..

15. rhp6033 spews:

Seriously, guys, we’ve got to recruit some better trolls. Most of them got lost after the election, I guess they are still crying in their beer. Serial’s still around, but it’s gotten too easy to discount his repeating of the Republican talking points.

16. dont bogart it dude spews:

@1 and 14

..yep, they were just a pair of junkies…


“Several disturbing were seized, including: ‘The Terrorist’s Encyclopedia V. 1.02,’ ‘Improvised and Modified Firearms: Deadly Homemade Weapons,’ ‘A Do-It-Yourself Submachine Gun,’ and U.S. Army manuals for creating and planting booby traps and explosives”.

I mean really, doesnt every junkie read this stuff?

17. Roger Rabbit spews:

@15 “we’ve got to recruit some better trolls”

That’s like saying a kitchen needs better cockroaches. The problem is they’re all about the same.

18. Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Socialist Hippie spews:

That’s like saying a kitchen needs better cockroaches.

Heh. Yup.

19. YLB spews:

I mean really, doesnt every junkie read this stuff?

More than one right wing whacko sure reads stuff like it..

The Anarchist Cookbook is a book first published in 1971, purporting to be all about drugs and explosives. Released during a time in which militant activity from radicals such as the Weather Underground on the far left and the Minutemen on the far right were at their peak, it claims to be a “survival manual” for middle-class people to understand those groups’ methods. It remains a cash cow for the publisher (Lyle Stuart/Barricade Books) because each new generation of middle school kids that comes along hears about it at just the time said middle school boys are first discovering they have testosterone, so they buy it or sneak a peek at it in the library thinking that this makes them on the cutting edge of rebellion and coolness.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/The_Anarchist_Cookbook

Heh. And every middle school mentality dabbling in “forbidden stuff”… People so addicted to heroin, they steal and are easily tracked to where they’re shacked up. Again, to be feared only by idiot right wing minds obviously.

Stay away longer next time..

20. YLB spews:

Heh. Nice little gadget from Santa for little Maxie Wankatansky..

http://www.amazon.com/Acer-A500-10S16u-10-1-Inch-Computer-Aluminum/dp/B004XZL980

Get the screen protector.. Soilage equals spoilage aka fubared.. Not covered under the warranty,.

21. EvergreenRailfan spews:

Very interesting. THe head of the Illinois GOP has said he is for marriage equality, although he said so as a citizen, not the head of the party.

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/01/02/1389641/illinois-republican-chair-endorses-marriage-equality/