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Open Thread 11/18

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– You always hope for a speedy resolution to labor strife, but I support the Longshore workers.

– Slow down on Rainier Ave, pleez.

– This year’s Seattle city budget looks pretty good.

– Sidewalks should never be ‘closed’ for construction projects

– Astronomical Sexism: Rosetta #ShirtStorm and Everyday Sexism in STEM [h/t]

– Agreed that Santarchy is The Worst Fucking Night In The Bars

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  1. 1

    Seattle Times ran another one of their full-of-shit anti-union editorials last weekend saying the dockworkers should give up their work slowdown while negotiating a labor contract with employers.

    Yeah right. That’s like saying two teams should play baseball under rules that allow only one of the teams to play with bats and gloves, the other team has to use its bare hands.

    The slowdown is the only leverage the workers have. All the other leverage is on the employers’ side. This is exactly the kind of labor negotiation the anti-worker wingnuts at the Seattle Times would love to see.

    Working conditions were awful in this country before there were unions. Only after union thugs dynamited mines and beat up (and sometimes killed) strikebreakers, and met employer violence with violence of their own, were labor rights won. It’s too bad it had to happen that way, but they were dealing with employers who understand no language but force.

    America’s conservatives are not at all reticent about using force to impose our will on other countries. Nor have they ever hesitated to endorse the use of force against their fellow Americans, including deadly force against women and children, to break labor strikes and suppress political protests.

    So now they’re whining about a work slowdown? Puh-leeze. I don’t want to hear it. The management negotiators should be happy the dockworkers aren’t shooting out their tires and throwing firebombs through their office windows. Whether you like it or not, that’s the kind of world we live in, and it’s the people in power, the people who run things, who created that kind of world for the rest of us to live. Sooner or later, what goes around, comes around.

  2. 2

    The horse’s mouth has spoken (or neighed or whinnied):

    “Yes, the actual operating jobs are about FIFTY.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_7rX-C2cS8

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: That’s from the CEO of the pipeline company, in reference to how many people will be employed to run the Keystone XL pipeline after it’s built. Anything else came from the horse’s other end.

  3. 3

    @1

    Exactly. Remember a few months ago when Jay Inslee cut off the funding for the State Patrol to escort USDA inspectors to the docks in Vancouver during the lockout? A week or two after the funds were cut and the playing field was leveled, the owners came back to the table and settled.

  4. 4

    When I read stories like this, I’m amazed by the restraint of Ferguson protesters. What would you do if your mother, wife, sister, or daughter was thrown in the city jail for having expired tags on her car, and then raped by a jail guard? I’d be thinking about guns and gasoline.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....tail=email

  6. 6

    @2 – I forget the calculation but I don’t even think we have 45,000 officers watching the Mexican Border. Not sure how they come up with 45,000 workers. Bunch of con artists.

  7. 7

    @6

    I mentioned this yesterday but it’s republican math on jobs. The steel to build is contracted from India. So the crew of the container ship that already have jobs and would otherwise be carrying car parts or fruit or widgets to port are jobs that already existed but are created by Keystone. And the Longshoremen who are currently employed that will unload the ship are new jobs from Keystone because they were already employed at the port but not for *This* load of steel. That a few dozen rail cars will be added to an existing train leaving the port and will be uncoupled somewhere along the pipeline, those are new jobs. Nobody ever engineered a train or worked the rail yard until we approved Keystone.

    It’s the same dumb math used to calculate presidential travel. “OMG! It’s costing the secret service $1m a day to travel with the President!” Never mind that those agents are salaried and it would cost the government $1M/day if the president were sitting in the Oval Office what’s important is that they are costing the government $1M/day RIGHT NOW when the President is somewhere outside of D.C. because somehow they wouldn’t be drawing their pay if they were home in D.C.

  8. 8

    @7
    I installed a solar energy system on my house (or had installed) – I created 4 jobs for 2 days. Republicans don’t like those types of jobs. The only job they like is keeping the oil executive in power.

    I recently posted a Politico article that had various Republican Oil executives calling the Keystone Pipeline Irrelevant. It is nothing more than a political token to Republicans at this point.

    They should invest in Solar and other alternative renewable energy sources to create real jobs.

  9. 9

    Oil executives are calling for the lifting of Crude Oil export embargo – so much for keeping the oil for ouselves so we cut our dependency on foreign oil…..The discussion should be alternative forms of energy not oil.

    The XL Pipeline is irrelevant.

    Thanks czechsaaz for the good fight – keep the monkeys honest.

  10. 10

    Time for Puddy to implement convoluted Roger NoBalls IDIOT Wabbit logic:

    So it seems rujaxoffallthetimebuttnuthinappears hates labor unions along with rujaxoffallthetimebuttnuthinappears’ labor union hating Senate DUMMOCRETINS! Who knew this about rujaxoffallthetimebuttnuthinappears? http://www.washingtontimes.com.....ilibuster/

    Traditional blue-collar labor unions, though, desperately sought the pipeline’s approval, saying it was a test of whether the Democratic Party could be trusted on jobs.

    “The majority of Democrats in the Senate and the White House just don’t get it, even though the recent election results surely should have sunk in by now. They have lost their way, their purpose and their base,” said Laborers’ International Union of North America President Terry O’Sullivan.

    Wow, another ignorant joack-booted union thug leader whom just woke up!

  11. 11

    So now we know… http://talkingpointsmemo.com/l.....y-commerce

    Pallone was next in line for the position, with Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) retiring in January. But Pelosi had been pushing for months to help Eshoo leapfrog the New Jersey Democrat. On November 10, she wrote a “Dear Colleague” letter endorsing Eshoo and urging Democrats to back her for the job.

    PuddyCommentary: Pelosi is scum. Trying to destroy House seniority! Smackdown delivered. Butt, there is more… http://www.bloomberg.com/polit.....elosi-ally

    Then came the case of Illinois Representative Tammy Duckworth. A Democratic star since she was first tapped to run for Congress, way back in 2006, Duckworth is a double-amputee veteran of the Iraq War—and, currently, eight months pregnant. She’d asked for a proxy vote, but as Billy House reported, Pelosi was among the members objecting to that.

    The story blew up, as—in retrospect—Democrats must have known it would. Republicans relished the story of the Pelosi-led party, hardy warriors for women, screwing over a pregnant war veteran. On Tuesday night’s episode of “The Daily Show,” Jon Stewart devoted five minutes to an attack on Pelosi, titled “Petty Woman,” ending by muttering that it might be time for her to go.

    The libtard arrogance of Pelosi-scum. Puddy wrote about how Pelosi treated the poster child of the 2012 erections who was paraded here by many HA DUMMOCRETINS!

    From HA DUMMOCRETINS own words… Republicans, supposedly per DUMMOCRETINS, are controlled by what is said on Fox News. Well now we learn from last night’s empirical evidence, DUMMOCRETINS are controlled and receive their nightly goose stepping marching orders from Jon Stewart on Comedy Central.

    Who knew?

    So if you don’t possess control of your caucus are you really a serious congressional leader? Libtard msm ask this all the time of Boehner!

  14. 14

    “Slow down on Rainier Ave, pleez”

    Is gentrification complete or something? For years the best advise would have been, don’t even drive on fucking Rainier Avenue, most especially at night. And if you have to cross Rainier, try to time it so you don’t have to stop at a red light. Keep moving. Don’t slow down. A quick read of the local crime blotter would drive the point home.

  15. 15

    @10 Well, if that’s your job-creation logic, then let’s build bridges to nowhere and dams on dry creek beds, because all of those projects create jobs.

    As a matter of fact, that’s exactly what the Columbia River and Tennessee Valley dams were — government spending to create make-work construction jobs during the Depression. They didn’t know what to do with the water or electricity, so they gave it to the farmers for almost nothing.

    Then Word War 2 came along, and the U.S. suddenly needed massive amounts of electricity to make aluminum for planes and plutonium for bombs, and eureka, there was the unused electricity sitting there, ready to be used. The dams won the war for us.

    Maybe Keystone XL will save the U.S., and perhaps all of humanity, in some way we can’t foresee right now. You never know. It’s just kinda hard to see right now.

    Meanwhile, yeah, the unions want several thousand construction jobs for a couple years. Can’t blame ’em for that. I think we should give them much more. We should give them the hundreds of thousands of construction jobs they’d get if Republicans stopped blocking the infrastructure spending our country desperately needs.

  17. 17

    Only 2 posts by Pudnutz in this whole thread? Is his boss making him do some actual work during the workday?

  18. 18

    Shocking eh NoBalls IDIOT Wabbit?

    It’s not Puddy’s you moron it’s a union thug leader screaming about Keystone!

    Yes you can keep Pelosi! Even her fellow Congressional DUMMOCRETINS rejected her in the vote. Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz led the charge!

  19. 19

    Wow that low IQ monomaniacal moronic moonbattic creep has now gone back to it’s low read and content lacking blog to attack Puddy?

    EPIC FAYLE!

  20. 20

    Undocumented workers usually have illegal documents! That’s A-OK with the low IQ monomaniacal moronic moonbattic creep!

  21. 21

    On my commute in, there was a bicyclist that give cyclists a bad name. No hand signals. He took up a third of the road. He didn’t stop at stop signs, he blew through intersections and yet he was visually rude to a car that didn’t defer to him.

  23. 23

    Undocumented workers usually have illegal documents!

    LMAO!!! Does this mean klownservative greedhead bidness operators are TOO STUPID to distinguish fake documents from real???

    Of course they are! Greed DULLS THE SENSES!

    and Damn!!! Notice that the troll calls them “undocumented”!!! Why is this?? I thought the proper term to an always wrong wing nut some form of “illegal” period (wetback if you’re an idiot Republican from Alaska)..

    Or “cheap” if you’re an an asshole HA KLOWNSERVATIVE!!!

  25. 25

    &23 I have republican friend, ohhhhh my Republican friends, especially this one who is a tobacco farmer. He employs Jamaicans to harvest his bounty, and he know that they are illegal, he checks no documents.

    He’s a real beauty – he doesn’t have a problem being racist and bigoted. He’s just a regular guy Republican Teapartier guy, white and old.

    Puffy would be proud of this guy.

  26. 26

    Hey empty tea bag,

    You answered the low IQ monomaniacal moronic moonbattic creep!

  27. 27

    To the low IQ monomaniacal moronic moonbattic creep,

    Puddy never does your bidding. You, low IQ monomaniacal moronic moonbattic creep are my Pavlov doll.

    Back low IQ monomaniacal moronic moonbattic creep, bark!

  29. 29

    RR@2
    The horse’s mouth has spoken (or neighed or whinnied):
    “Yes, the actual operating jobs are about FIFTY.”

    There will be a lot more indirectly created jobs involved with the clean up and cover up of the inevitable oil spills.

  30. 30

    Supporters of the Keystone XL Pipeline[like braindead HA klownservatives] herald it as a job-creating machine, producing as many as 119,000 jobs.

    But only 3,900 workers will actually be required to build the pipeline to carry oil from Canada to the Gulf of Mexico, according to the U.S. State Department, and those jobs will only last for a year. There will be 35 permanent positions created.

    http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/1.....SF_E_River

    According to the klownservatives KXL will make everyone so HAPPY!!! Especially our own pet village idiot troll.

  32. 32

    @26 try learning English, one if the requirements to be a citizen by republicans. I didn’t say that they don’t have documents, all I said is that he doesn’t bother to check or ask.

  34. 34

    5.7 Million people already lost their insurance and their doctors due to the lie from Obummer due to ObummerCare. Where is that in Dead Schultz’ commentary? Some of the 10.3 Million are receiving ObummerCare due to illegal federal exchange subsidies which Professor Gruber claimed in videos were illegal! The ObummerCare law specifically said those subsidies were only from state exchanges.

    So why didn’t Dead Schultz discuss why Obummer delayed the employer mandate which even the LA Times, NBC News, Wall Street Journal and other libtard locations admit 25-60 million will lose their employer provided insurance? Remember Gruber claimed in another video that was on purpose to force them onto ObummerCare.

    That link proves once again Dead Schultz doesn’t know what’s in the law after the law was passed, and your posting of Dead Schultz’ idiotic rant proves you are an absolute low IQ monomaniacal moronic moonbattic creep. Bark you moron, bark!

    As always it sux to be you!

  35. 35

    From the empty tea bag with the chafed puffed butt:

    @26 try learning English, one if the requirements

    Ummm… Okay!

  36. 36

    To the absolute low IQ monomaniacal moronic moonbattic creep @ 30,

    It was a union thug leader who made the claim of lost jobs. Reading is NOT FUNDAMENTAL to your absolute low IQ monomaniacal moronic moonbattic creepy ASS!

  37. 37

    Puddy finished reading the “mostly true” Politifact response…

    These are net figures, meaning they include people who may have lost insurance. While there is some fluctuation, they largely support Schultz’s claim.

    Puddy wonders why the libtards at Politifact added may? It’s factual 5.7 Million lost their insurance due to ObummerCare.

    Wow, this was purposely skipped over by HA’s absolute low IQ monomaniacal moronic moonbattic creep. Puddy already provided link after link of those who definitely lost insurance including one with Megyn Kelly interviewing Professor Gruber last fall regarding those whom lost their insurance due to ObummerCare. Check the crazed databaze absolute low IQ monomaniacal moronic moonbattic creep!!!!!

    Sooooooooooooooo 10.3 million – 5.7 million is 4.6 million peeps absolute low IQ monomaniacal moronic moonbattic creep! And since there are some of those receiving the illegal federal subsidies… Hmmm…?

    Still sux to be the absolute low IQ monomaniacal moronic moonbattic creep!

  38. 38

    Wow Obummer going to implement executive amnesty even though it’s not that popular with hispanics. http://hotair.com/archives/201.....everybody/

    Butt a pathway to citizenship is popular. So after Obummer had a 60 vote senate in 2009 and claimed Obummer was not an emperor is Obummer doing it now after getting the smackdown back on Nov 4th? Because Obummer doesn’t care about the will of the people!

    Remember, Obama claimed 25 times on camera that Obummer does not have the legal authority to act without Congress on immigration. http://bit.ly/1qYOU9V

    And for those loony libtards who claimed Reagan did the same thing… WRONG… Reagan was operating under Simpson-Mazzoli a PASSED law! The problem was there was no border enforcement! Even to this day libtards are against that because as Pelosi mentioned, illegals are the new DUMMOCRETIN voting pool. Yes Puddy gave link to that to in the absolute low IQ monomaniacal moronic moonbattic creep crazed databaze!

  40. 40

    Meanwhile you have to love this for you leftist Gruber Truthers… http://youtu.be/kDomkBtJC7Q And for the resident IDIOT Wabbit… Obummercare is at 37% approval… approved by those who are getting the subsidies! Ain’t that so absolute low IQ monomaniacal moronic moonbattic creep? So here you go leftist PINHEADS… http://thefederalist.com/2014/.....it-a-rest/

    Come. On. I hate to break it to you all, but Gruber doesn’t get to be an architect of Obamacare and Romneycare when you want to use his authority and credentials to bash Republicans or spin for the law, and then radically transform into one of three Jon Grubers who just happens to live in Obama’s neighborhood once Gruber becomes a massive liability for the Left.

    Gruber was one of the key architects of Obamacare. He didn’t just build econometric simulation models based on the law. He was also involved in drafting its key components. And he was paid enormous sums of money for his advice and counsel. These are facts. Accept them, learn to deal with them, and give the embarrassingly bad Gruber Truthing a rest.

    Unlike HA DUMMOCRETIN libtards whom hijack more than two paragraphs repeatedly and get away with it, Puddy only used two!

    Earlier it was discussed the epic fayle of federal subsidies and how the IRS had to rule because 36 states said no thanks! That’s going to the Supremes!

    Gonna be real interesting next spring.

  42. 42

    No one lost their insurance. I think if 5 million people lost their insurance you would be hearing more about it….and it is pretty quite out there.

    Noone lost their doctors. You can find another good doctor. When you visit the ER you don’t get your doctor. When you are referred by a doctor to see a specialst, then you get a new doctor too. When you move to a new state, as all the Republican conservatives claim they are doing to go to greener pastures, away from liberals, guess what you get a new doctor.

    Finding another good doctor isn’t impossilbe and is part of life. But the Ape doesn’t know about life, all he knows how to do is ruin other peoples lives.

  43. 43

    Where are those links empty tea bag with the chafed puffed butt? Puddy offered many links and the absolute low IQ monomaniacal moronic moonbattic creep has them in the cred databaze! Just ax the absolute low IQ monomaniacal moronic moonbattic creep empty tea bag with the chafed puffed butt!

    Recently Puddy put forth the Megin Kelly link that had 5.09 million with Gruber!

    Sux to be you empty tea bag with the chafed puffed butt!

  44. 44

    Here’s a hijack from a Puddy link earlier this year!

    “Opponents of the law clam a wide variety of numbers for enrollments. First you have to remember when we say enrollments under the ACA we mean all insurance types, not just the 8 million through the marketplace. If you take the 4.7 million who lost their plans and subtract that from the 8 million who got plans on the marketplace, and then subtract those who may not pay you get a number more like 4 million. Of course the 4.7 million who lost plans got insurance through more places than just the marketplace. The real numbers when taking all data into account truly seems to be closer to our 15 million estimate which as you can read below is actually pretty conservative.”

    So they didn’t lose their plans empty puffed chafed butt tea bag? Got proof?

    http://thehayride.com/wp-conte.....0×563 and…
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Gv8U.....0×474

    So why did Obummer say this on NBC news empty tea bag?

    “I am sorry that they are finding themselves in this situation based on assurances they got from me. We’ve got to work hard to make sure that they know we hear them and we are going to do everything we can to deal with folks who find themselves in a tough position as a consequence of this.”

  45. 45

    Meet the guy who Grubered Obummer chafed butt… http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....-him-back/

    Weinstein is up front about the fact that his motives were personal. His insurance policy was canceled, he says, because of the Affordable Care Act, and his premiums wound up doubling.

    Well the chafed puffed butt above claimed that Weinstein didn’t lose his insurance! Actions always have consequences!

  46. 46

    @43 actually it SUCKs to be you.

    Where is your link. Where are the voices of the 5.3 million. I don’t hear anybody!

  47. 47

    Bill Cosbt sure was busy assualting woman – a third accuser comes forward.

    Puffy – quick send him a bible. Did he forget that there are the ten commandments?

  48. 48

    @ 46,

    Puddy asked for your links first… Chronological order or are you as chronological challenged as the crazed databaze deala?

    Can’t think of an original chafed butt line so you hijack sux to be you?

    Sad; so sad!

  49. 49

    New Internet terms:

    Gruber verb groo-burr
    : To tell a lie deliberately with the intent of misleading.
    : To misinform people based on the belief that they are too stupid to understand the wisdom of your position.

    example: To conceal the truth about Obamacare it was necessary to gruber the entire nation.

    noun
    : A calculated mistruth intended to deceive listeners

    example: The explanation given in favor of Obamacare was one huge gruber from one end to the other.

    Gruberish noun groo-burr-esh
    : Any bewildering deluge of falsehoods designed to confound an audience based on the speaker’s awareness that the truth must be concealed by any means necessary.

    example: A preposterous mountain of gruberish was put forth intended to hide the fact that the entire nation had been grubered about Obamacare.

    Republicans were not grubered! Only DUMMOCRETINS!

  50. 50

    Republican: if President Obama changes immigration policy, it will poison the well, and republicans won’t want to do anything further on immigration.

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