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  1. 1

    Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Socialist Hippie spews:

    I note that over at (un)SP, Jim Miller started a thread praising Sam Reed and the SOS office, and then shut it down because people were discussing the mechanics of voting in this state, and somehow that’s not acceptable.

    Their little minds blow up so easily. It really is remarkable.

  2. 3

    Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Socialist Hippie spews:

    I LOVE the clip of Bilbo and Gandalf smoking the ‘finest weed in the South Farthing’ on the SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT website!!

  3. 5

    rhp6033 spews:

    Just out of curiosity, how do the Senate races look in 2014? Anyone got a good link to the Senate chairs up for re-election (should be 1/3 of them), which states are involved, and how many are currently held by Democrats vs. Republicans?

  4. 6

    rhp6033 spews:

    Well, Andrew Jackson was a man of his times. He was a slaveholder and his treatment of the American Indians was inexcusable – especially since so many had allied themselves with the U.S. in the various Indian wars.

    But at least when S. Carolina threatened to implement it’s “nulification” policy, Jackson stared them right down and stated – in no uncertain terms – that he would send Federal troops to S. Carolina unless they recanted. They backed down – nobody doubted that Jackson would do exactly what he said he would do.

  5. 8

    rhp6033 spews:

    Oops, I thought that was a typo in the original post. It does look like something which would be presented to Andrew Jackson.

  6. 11

    spews:

    Congratulations to a woman rich enough to fund her campaign(s) with millions of dollars?

    So, this is a good thing? Campaign self-financing?

    Or, does it depend on the party affiliation of the person in question?

  7. 13

    Mathew "RennDawg" Renner spews:

    I think I know the real reason why Inslee won. As I-502 showed us, 55% of voters in this state are potheads.

  8. 14

    rhp6033 spews:

    # 13: ” think I know the real reason why Inslee won. As I-502 showed us, 55% of voters in this state are potheads.”

    Perhaps, but some of them voted Democratic anyway.

  9. 15

    Gman spews:

    Good to see Bob is sticking to linking news stories and not offering his opinions, since all of his opinions are usually wrong as was proven over the last many months before the election. No more spewing shit for a living.

  10. 17

    Michael spews:

    - Congrats to Ed Murray for being elected Majority Leader

    Meh. Murray’s good people and he’ll do a slightly better than adequate job, but it’s pretty hard to get excited it.

  11. 18

    Steve spews:

    @1 “I note that over at (un)SP, Jim Miller started a thread praising Sam Reed and the SOS office, and then shut it down because people were discussing the mechanics of voting in this state, and somehow that’s not acceptable.”

    Even an idiot like Miller might be embarrassed by the comments that were being posted on that thread by what’s left of the (un)SP Klown car brigade.

  12. 20

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Speaking of Indian Country, the race for Montana Superintendent of Public Instruction, was really close, and last time I checked, was headed for a recount. In the lead, is the incumbant, Denise Juneau, against a Republican challenger. If Juneau holds off her challenger, she will have won a second term. She already is the first Native American woman to be elected to statewide office in the State of Montana. She is part Mandan, part Hidatse. Right now, provisional ballot counting in Missoula County has given her a boost. The Republican candidate did pretty well in most rural counties, but in the more populated counties, such as Cascade(Great Falls), Lewis and Clark(Helena), Silver Bow(Butte), Deer Lodge(the county, not the city(which is in another county) Anaconda), and Yellowstone(Billings, largest city in the state), and counties with Native American Reservations kept Juneau on top, so far.

    http://electionresults.sos.mt......38;map=CTY

    http://helenair.com/news/state....._form=true

    Montana sure elects some interesting people, like outgoing Governor Brian Schweitzer, a man who doesen’t just veto bills with a pen and a stamp, but branding irons on the capitol steps!

  13. 21

    spews:

    @ 18

    The only time I ever feel motivated to read that blog is when someone on this site brings it up. About 3-4 times a year I get bored, look there, realize it wouldn’t relieve the boredom, and leave.

    Not much boring around here, if one selectively avoids RR’s comments.

  14. 23

    Puddybud spews:

    Now we see Oblamer (still Bush’s fault) sent Susan Rice out on all the Sunday shows to lie.

    Oblamer – Weak Sauce!

  15. 27

    rhp6033 spews:

    Gee, it’s only been a few names since Ambassador Rice’s name had come up in the national media as a replacement for Hillary Clinton.

    Of course, the GOP is having spasm. They want to make a point: no Obama cabinet appointees unless they pass the Republican litmus test. McCain said Rice was “unqulified” becuase spoke publically on Bengazi based on information as she knew it at the time, and that’s not the in the GOP plans. Cantor waded in as well, and another Republican Senator (I think from Nebraska?) is calling for “Watergate-type hearings” – just so they can try to link the words Bengazi with Watergate, and perhaps give the Republican House a chance to control the hearings.

    All of which goes to show that we can’t let the opportunity pass us in early January to reform the Senate. Abolish the ability of one Senator to annonymously “hold” nominations or legislation, unless overcome by a 60-vote majority. That’s an anacrynism which no longer has any basis in reality. A 51-seat majority should be sufficient. And we can do this in January with nothing more than a simple majority in the Senate.

  16. 28

    rhp6033 spews:

    # 20: I noticed the comment toward the end of the article, to the effect that there was a “birth derth” among whites which is affecting Republican numbers.

    Just out of curiosity, is this why mostly southern “red” states have such a problem which teach sex ed in the classroom? Are they trying to pump up the birth numbers of potential white voters?

  17. 29

    spews:

    A certain moron is still running away from his record here:

    tctmgr search -pv .ha/data/lexicon/puddymoron.tct ” streq ‘kook aid’ | cut -f1,4-5
    kook aid count 338

    You’re going to hear a lot of praise for Nate Silver in the next couple of days; in fact, you’re probably already sick of hearing about him. Silver correctly predicted 332 based on states, although his model ended up at 313 votes. But he’s not the only one who really nailed it. See also: Sam Wang, Drew Linzer, Josh Putnam, and Markos Moulitsas.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/pol.....st/264641/

    What a dope!

  18. 30

    spews:

    @ 27

    What Cantor thinks is irrelevant. He’s not a Senator.

    Are you advocating for simple majority just for appointees, or for all Senate votes? I’m thinking that with Rice, it won’t be a one-Senator thing. It will be 41 holding up the nomination if it’s her.

    If Patraeus testifies before the SoS is nominated, any mention of Rice may be moot thereafter.

    Ask yourself – after Powell went before the UN and gave his presentation of Iraq’s WMDs, how did Powell look in the eyes of Democrats?

    It really isn’t all that different with Rice.

  19. 31

    Steve spews:

    “If Patraeus testifies before the SoS is nominated, any mention of Rice may be moot thereafter.”

    “It really isn’t all that different with Rice.”

    You seem to acknowledge that you don’t know all of the facts or heard all of the testimony. The facts are in on Powell, including his own assessment of what he did. That’s a pretty big difference. But I’m sure we’re all growing used to you spiking the ball prematurely, so what the hell?

  20. 32

    spews:

    @ 31

    I eagerly await her nomination, and her testimony under oath as to what she knew and how she came to know it, after an unencumbered D/CIA tells the Senate what HE knew and how he came to know it.

    You’re correct in that Powell is a military man and as such was better able to separate wheat from chaff.

    Which is not to say that Rice is stupid and parroted what she was fed.

    We’ll see.

  21. 33

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    28, did not notice the comment you mentioned, as I have learned over the years not to spend too much time that far down on the story page. It did remind me of something I saw awhile back, about a GOP operative actually accusing a GOP Governor of insulting Lt. Col Custer(he was a temporary General during the Civil War, most battlefield promotions were rescinded following the war) because she met with a Native American tribe. It was Governor Martinez of New Mexico being criticised for that. In New Mexico, Native American influence is all over the state, from the state flag, various pueblos, adobe homes, and even the Roundhouse, the New Mexico State Capitol(I believe the only round-building state capitol) in Santa Fe.

    http://wonkette.com/482030/rnc.....ng-indians

    In Montana, at the state capitol, there is some trubutes to the Native American culture of the state. A portrait of Lewis and Clark meeting the Flathead tribe is displayed right above the Speakers Rostrum in the House Chamber.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi.....ndians.jpg
    (photo link from Montana State Capitol Wikipedia page)

  22. 34

    Steve spews:

    “You’re correct in that Powell is a military man and as such was better able to separate wheat from chaff.”

    You say that military men are more capable of separating wheat from chaff than yourself? Perhaps you should define “military men”, including years of service required, before you include Roger and many Democratic Party politicians in that assessment even as you would exclude most Republicans.

  23. 35

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @1 Shorter (u)SP comments: “People who vote for things we don’t like shouldn’t be allowed to vote.”

  24. 36

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @11 Did you have a problem with it when Linda McMahon did it? I don’t remember you saying anything about her. And did you notice that her millions failed to buy a Senate seat? Apparently candidates’ qualifications still matter to voters.

  25. 40

    Michael spews:

    Dear Mitt Romney, people didn’t vote for you because you’re a dick.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/c.....gifts.html
    There’s an old saying, Mr. Romney: “Excuses are like buttholes. Everyone’s got one, and they all stink.” In a conference call Wednesday, Mitt Romney blamed his loss in the presidential election on “gifts and initiatives” President Obama gave to young, African-American, and Hispanic voters. He said Obama followed the “old playbook” of catering to specific demographics. Romney also gave specific examples. For young people, forgiveness of college loan interest was “a big gift,” as was free contraceptives. He said free healthcare “was a big plus” for Hispanics and African-Americans voters, too. “You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told you’re now going to get free health care … is huge.

  26. 41

    Michael spews:

    MOSCOW, Nov. 14 (UPI) — A severed communications cable near Moscow has rendered specialists unable to control most of Russia’s civilian satellites, a source in the space industry said.

    “Communications have been lost between civilian ground-based tracking, command and control stations,” the source told RIA Novosti.
    : http://www.upi.com/Science_New.....z2CFIoXyw9

    This will of course lead to The Zombie Apocalypse. At least a coupe of satellites are bound to crash and the crashing of a radioactive satellites led to this:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N.....iving_Dead

    Board up your doors and load your rifles!

  27. 42

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    @31 Kap’n Kornflake – Still Swallowing … Right Wing Bullshit Talking Points, even after I took $1,000 out of his pocket,

    Yes, I look forward to UN Ambassador Rice’s testimony under oath in response to the right wing bat shit accusations thrown her way. I especially hope that those accusations are led in the Senate by the grumpy old man and Huckleberry.

    What is the terrible thing she said again?

    BOB SCHIEFFER: And joining us now, Susan Rice, the U.N. ambassador, our U.N. ambassador. Madam Ambassador, he says this is something that has been in the planning stages for months. I understand you have been saying that you think it was spontaneous? Are we not on the same page here?

    SUSAN RICE (Ambassador to the United Nations): Bob, let me tell you what we understand to be the assessment at present. First of all, very importantly, as you discussed with the President, there is an investigation that the United States government will launch led by the FBI, that has begun and–

    BOB SCHIEFFER (overlapping): But they are not there.

    SUSAN RICE: They are not on the ground yet, but they have already begun looking at all sorts of evidence of– of various sorts already available to them and to us. And they will get on the ground and continue the investigation. So we’ll want to see the results of that investigation to draw any definitive conclusions. But based on the best information we have to date, what our assessment is as of the present is in fact what began spontaneously in Benghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in Cairo where, of course, as you know, there was a violent protest outside of our embassy–

    Now Bob, isn’t it time you stopped opening your yap? Remember what Mr. Lincoln said “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.” Nobody here has any doubts about your opinions.

  28. 43

    rhp6033 spews:

    # 40:

    Romney said: “…You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told you’re now going to get free health care … is huge.”

    Which is why Romney and his Republican finance corhorts just don’t get it. You provide affordable healthcare to someone make $25K – $50K a year, and they see it as a gift. But let them pay the smallest taxes possible – hey, they think they deserve it!

  29. 44

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    @40 & 43, Michael said it best. Slick Willard is a dick. Only now you can add “loser”.

    Slick Willard is a loser dick.

  30. 45

    rhp6033 spews:

    I think we are seeing the beginnings of the Republican strategy over the next two years. Distract Americans from the fact that they are blocking all economic recovery and reform by crating a big circus around Bengazi. “Impeach the President”, some have already claimed, apparantly wanting another do-over of the last election.

    Gee, I don’t recall anyone calling for the impeachment of Reagan when his bungled strategies of shelling Christian Militia positions on the Lebanese mountains while at the same time proclaiming that American Marines who were tasked to hold the airport open (an obviously indefensable position over the long term) were on a “peace-keeping mission”. Of course, the cost of his mistake were a lot of dead Marines at the barracks they were occupying.

  31. 46

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Hey, how did House Republican Intellectual Leader, Paul Ly’n Ryan help Gekko/Galt in Wisconsin?

    What could be the reason?

    Well, as you know, Janesville is a very Democratic town, but I’m a Republican,” Ryan explained to interviewer Stan Milam on Janesville-based WCLO radio station.

    He is smart ain’t he? He figured out he’s a Republican and people in his own very home town dislike Republicans.

    H/T GOS

    HAHAHAHAHA

  32. 47

    don spews:

    So any Dems out there can tell me when and where do we line up for our free stuff? I’ve been told by Republicans that Obama promised free stuff if I voted for him, but I have not gotten an email or letter telling me to show up and get my free stuff. Anybody know when they’re giving all this loot away? Of course, I didn’t pay $50 million dollars like Adelson did for his candidate, so I suppose my free stuff won’t be like what he was expecting.

  33. 49

    Don Joe spews:

    @ 47

    Your “carried interest” packet is on the way. Of course, you need to be a millionaire before it’s of any use to you, but that’s just a minor detail.

  34. 50

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Funny. The deep believers of personal responsibility, Romney, Ryan and Koster, have found it impossible to accept responsibility for their “horrible” failed campaigns.

  35. 52

    spews:

    Heh. Bottom of the barrel troll Puddydope keeps bleating that the Politico is “leftist” even as they red-bait new Dems in the Senate:

    But the question in a divided Senate is whether the new liberals will be hard-liners who refuse to compromise with the tea party types on the other side of the aisle or negotiators, like Kennedy, who made deals with Republicans ranging from Ronald Reagan to Rep. John Boehner to George W. Bush. In the modern Senate, it’s a lot harder to do the kind of work that won Kennedy fans on the Republican side.

    Wow a “leftist” website warning readers that the new Senate Dems are to the left of Ted Kennedy – how “leftist” of them!

    http://dyn.politico.com/prints.....48D07CDE66

  36. 53

    spews:

    Oh I understand now why PuddySilly is soo…. strange..

    President Obama is using a Cold War-era mind-control technique known as “Delphi” to coerce Americans into accepting his plan for a United Nations-run communist dictatorship in which suburbanites will be forcibly relocated to cities. That’s according to a four-hour briefing delivered to Republican state senators at the Georgia state Capitol last month.

    http://www.motherjones.com/moj.....s-takeover

    LMAO! The fool’s “mind” has been altered! It’s all an Obama plot!

    Damn! You.can’t.make.this.shit.up!!!!!

  37. 54

    Ekim spews:

    @52, this is a really funny line:

    But the question in a divided Senate is whether the new liberals will be hard-liners who refuse to compromise with the tea party types

    As if the teahadists ever compromise about anything.

  38. 55

    Ekim spews:

    @53,

    … suburbanites will be forcibly relocated to cities.

    No way I’d support moving any of those wingnuts to Seattle. Once they got here they’d be demanding more “FREE STUFF!”

  39. 57

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @40 What an ass. Thank the Great Mother Rabbit Spirit (GMRS) this jerk won’t be our next president. Even his fellow Republican, Bobby Jindal, couldn’t stomach this. But what can you expect from a silver-spoon guy who thinks 47% of Americans are freeloaders. And don’t call how he made his millions “work” because it wasn’t.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.c.....?hpt=hp_t1

  40. 58

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Well I guess this chick finally has the notoriety she craves.

    “She drives a luxury Mercedes and always dresses to kill — but Jill Kelley is actually drowning in debt. The woman at the root of the … scandal … lives an extravagant lifestyle that conceals mountains of money owed to banks and credit card companies, court documents show. The palatial home in Tampa, where Kelley … hosted top military brass … has been in foreclosure since 2010. Court records reveal that … the Kelleys hadn’t paid their mortgage since September 2009. …
    A second property owned by the Kelleys in downtown Tampa was also in foreclosure proceedings beginning in 2010.”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new.....z2CHTdGisT

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Fame and power always attracts groupies. I’ll bet half the grandees in D.C. are living out of pawn shops. Another thing the Kelleys did was shelter their income from taxes by setting up a “cancer foundation” from which they paid personal and partying expenses.

  41. 61

    spews:

    Your move, bakers.

    Hostess CEO gives striking workers Thursday deadline


    Hostess Brands CEO said Wednesday the company will liquidate unless striking workers return to the job by the end of the day on Thursday.

    “We simply do not have the financial resources to survive an ongoing national strike,” Greg Rayburn said in a statement.

    Workers are protesting a contract imposed by a bankruptcy court. The bakers union has called the contract “outrageous.”

    A liquidation would result in more than 18,000 workers losing their jobs.

    Over the weekend, workers in the Bakery, Confectionary, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union, or BCTGM, went on strike at Hostess-owned plants in several states. The strike includes workers at the Dolly Madison plant in Emporia.

    Hostess filed for bankruptcy in January, the second time it has done so since 2004.

    http://www.kwch.com/business/k.....0295.story

    I’m sure the company’s just joking. Heh. Heh. Heh. Keep picketing. No worries. You’ll get a bailout.

  42. 62

    Ekim spews:

    Oh gee, Bob, the Bakers should sacrifice 1/3 of their pay and benefits as well as their pension fund. More profits for the vultures who own the company.

    Why we need those vultures? They buy and rape a company. Force it to bankruptcy. Then sell off the corpse.

  43. 63

    Puddybud spews:

    rhpee6033 wrongly claims Susan Rice went out with the info she knew… She went out there with the info Oblamer told her to say. Yeah rhpee6033… it was the video no one watched. You keep the faith moronic fool! A video my ASS!

    The British press knew it was Al Qaeda the next day. Libyan officials said it was Al Qaeda. The Live video feed said it was a terrorist attack. They published it and Puddy delivered the links rhpee6033. She was told to lie about some unwatched video and now that Oblamer is firmly ensconced in de whitey house for another four years he feels insulated that he can tell everyone she did what Oblamer told her to do. Except when you purposely lie people for no good reason people react rhpee6033. It’s fully acceptable to lie for national security. This was no national security matter.

    Another moronic comment from Everett’s moronic twit!

  44. 64

    Ekim spews:

    Bob, this wasn’t the first time these vultures came to the table. Last time around the Bakers gave up a big chunk of their pay. What happened to the money? It didn’t go to making the company solvent. No, the money went to the vultures.

  45. 65

    Ekim spews:

    So Bob, the logical progression is that the Bakers work harder and harder for lerss and less compensation so the vultures can make more money. And the Bakers should be happy they have a job.

  46. 66

    Puddybud spews:

    It’s so good to see ylbuttspigot still has a hard-on for Puddy. Puddy PWNS this idiot!

    Such a sad little man with his hard-on obsession.

  47. 67

    Puddybud spews:

    ekim makes an attack against SC about Hostess. Well ekim prove Kurtzman Carson Consultants are nasty evil vultures, since you made the accusation!

  48. 68

    Puddybud spews:

    Petraeus puts forth a timeline Oblamer’s crew couldn’t deal with (the truth) so they brought up his affair to remove him from D/CIA post as retribution. Petraeus wouldn’t go along with the program like Susan Rice did. Otherwise we would still be waiting for Oblamer’s official Benghazi timeline.

  49. 69

    Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Socialist Hippie spews:

    @67

    Wow. puddl can google ‘Hostess’ and drop the name of a ‘restructuring’ consultant.
    Wow.

    I can too!! I found this, about Hostess’ bankruptcy…

    In a statement in its filing, the company said it “is not competitive, primarily due to legacy pension and medical benefit obligations and restrictive work rules.”

    Translation: “We negotiated a contract with our workers to compensate them for their labor. Now we want to go back on that and give them the shaft…makes a great excuse for liquidating the company after we’ve looted it. Oh, and we don’t want to have to follow safety rules…what’s a finger or two to some baker schmuck?”

  50. 70

    Liberal Scientist is a Dirty Fucking Socialist Hippie spews:

    Puddl…ongoing, relentless, crazy-ass shilling for his betters.

    Nothing ever changes.

  51. 72

    spews:

    @ 62, 64, 65

    Since I’m not a baker, nor even someone who buys Hostess products (maybe that means it’s all my fault), I’m not in a position to know exactly what the bakery employees think they have as leverage.

    It looks to me like their choices are no job, or a job at reduced wages with reduced pensions.

    Not a good choice, agreed.

    Whether there are ‘vultures’ or not is irrelevant, isn’t it? If the company liquidates, the employees have no jobs at all and nothing over which to strike.

    That’s life in the private sector. Sometimes one must choose between unpalatable options. I suppose the employees can always get in line in bankruptcty court – they’ve been there before.

  52. 73

    Tea for everyone spews:

    Not “One” Positive day on wall Street since the “Chosen One” was reelected.

    Down over 1000 pts now, interest rates in the tank, CD rates in the tank, Muni rates falling like a rock.

    Not to mention Unemployment rising.

    If this is Progress in an American’s income, I would hate to see what regression looks like.

  53. 74

    spews:

    @ 69

    “We negotiated a contract with our workers to compensate them for their labor. Now we want to go back on that and give them the shaft…

    Actually, Lib Pinocchio, if I understand this correctly:

    Workers at Hostess Brands—who in September overwhelming rejected a contract that cut wages and benefits by as much as 32%—began a strike today against the maker of Wonder Bread, Twinkies and other well-known baked treats. Hostess has imposed the terms of the rejected contract.

    http://www.aflcio.org/Blog/Org.....rike-Baker

    there currently is no contract between the ownership and the bakery employees, since a proposed contract was rejected and terms were instead imposed.

    It’s hard to renege on a contract if one does not exist, no?

  54. 75

    spews:

    @ 69

    What if it was the workers that terminated the employment agreement, Lib Pinocchio?

    Some Hostess workers are free to strike because either the bankruptcy court so ruled, the local
    union terminated the existing collective bargaining agreement
    and is therefore free to strike under
    the National Labor Relations Act, or Hostess has implemented its final offer, freeing the workers to
    reject it via strike action.

    http://bctgm.org/PDFs/HostessFactSheet.pdf

    If they did, would they be ‘going back on that’ and shafting their employer?

    Just askin’.

  55. 76

    Puddybud spews:

    Notice dunceman attributed nothing to the company Puddy put forth. All dunceman did was talk about Hostess. Remember that’s basically what Hostess said in January 2012.

    Another swing and a miss… typical for dunceman… especially when Puddy asked ekim AKA goatman!

    Hello of an non effort dunceman!

  56. 78

    Puddybud spews:

    Twinkies, virtually indestructible,,, unlike the crude comments of dunceman… always easily destructed!

  57. 80

    rhp6033 spews:

    # 73: You need to read up on the Bankruptcy process, especially the chapters on “Acceptance or Rejection of Executory Contracts”.

    In short, a company in Chapt. 11 can choose to accept an executory contract (lease, selected vendor contracts, etc.) as long as they make themselves current on the existing contract and receive court permission to use their assetts in Chapt. 11 to make ongoing payments on the obligations.

    Nobody thought that this applied to union contracts, which are generally governed by the National Labor Relations Act, until the current right-wing U.S. Supreme Court reversed scores of years of precedent to do so.

    Now just about every company in Chapt. 11 uses it to reject a union contract. This isn’t a rejection by the employees, it is a rejection by the management, with a stamp of approval by the court.

    So now an employee who worked for years at a set pay scale, with a portion of this total compensation paid for in pension benefits, can suddenly find himself within a few years of retirement with the entire pension obligation wiped away.

  58. 81

    spews:

    @ 79

    Nobody thought that this applied to union contracts

    Nobody thought Obamacare was a tax. Obama’s team argued specifically that it wasn’t.

    Nobody thought there exists in the US Constitution a right to abortion on demand.

    Win some, lose some.

  59. 84

    spews:

    @ 82

    The motherfuckers at Hostess have seen their business cut in half over the past several years:

    PrivCo estimates that Hostess Brands’ revenue dropped more than half a billion dollars over the past five years and is down to about $2.5 billion. “As Americans both cut back spending on baked goods, as well as began moving to healthier eating options, Hostess was hit harder than its peers as it failed to innovate to offer fresher, healthier baked goods,” Hamadeh says.

    Read more: http://business.time.com/2012/.....z2CJzKOuPc

    Unions can continue to strike, but for what purpose, really?

    Blood, turnip.

  60. 85

    rhp6033 spews:

    Now Puddy is trying to argue that the court forced the company to reject the union contracts.

    He’s hillarious.

  61. 86

    rhp6033 spews:

    Even Republicans aren’t this dumb, are they?

    Seattle Police are investigating a break-in at the Democratic headquarters here, which shared space with the Inslee campaign. Workers arrived on Nov. 6th (election day) to find glass broken and called police. Police found offices ransacked and property of key campaign personnel (laptops, etc.) missing. A smattering of other items were stolen as well, apparantly to make it look like a randam burglary, except that other laptops, alchohol, etc. were left behind. The office was also unavailable for a large part of the day, as police investigated the incident.

    Break-In at Democratic Headquarters in Seattle

    (1) After Watergate, what Republican in their right mind would come up with the idea of breaking into a Democratic headquarters?

    (2) It’s long past time that Democratic offices put some decent security sytems in place.

  62. 87

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Rujax,

    American Airlines did the same thing, although their labor issues are partly due to a contract that cannot expire. Airlines are not covered under the NLRA, but the Railway Lsbor Act, which has a different set of rules, and is intended to keep the country moving. When strikes happen, which the law has several tools at the disposal of courts, Congress and the President to delay and/or prevent, it is usually over contract amendments that are negotiable at a date certain. My favorite example of this was the Amtrak negotiation that took 8 years! As long as they are talking, and the National Mediation Board has not released labor or management from negotiations, no strike action can be taken. Late in the Bush Administration, the brotherhoods(Railway Unions), applied for the release, and got it. It set the clock rolling for Amtrak’s first ever strike, but the Presidential Emergency Board managed to come up with a settlement that both sides could agree on, and the strike was called off, which was literally days away. What the management(adminstration) wanted, was to blur the lines of craft distinctions at Amtrak’s heavy maintenance shops in Delaware and Indiana. In the outside world, it might make sense, but railway maintenance is a highly skilled job, and old crafts from the steam era have worked well in the Diesel era.(Plumbers don’t work on electrical systems, for good reason. TRAINS Magazine did a good article earlier this year on CSX’s Cumberland, Maryland shops, with a description of how that worked).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_Labor_Act

    http://blogs.star-telegram.com.....years.html

  63. 88

    spews:

    @ 85

    Seattle Police are investigating a break-in at the Democratic headquarters here, which shared space with the Inslee campaign.

    Darcy Burner did it. It’s the first accomplishment she’s been able to honestly list on her resume’.

  64. 89

    Puddybud spews:

    Now Puddy is trying to argue that the court forced the company to reject the union contracts.

    poor rhpee6033… Puddy delivered the link you couldn’t find…

    When the facts are presented his leetle head explodes!

  65. 90

    Puddybud spews:

    ylbuttspigot

    Has a hard-on for Puddy! Realizes he’ll never amount to anything! Unemployment berry berry good to him! Well ylbuttspigot, another successful one completed! You still stuck in the ylbazement all that time!

    Puddy PWNS this moron!

  66. 91

    Puddybud spews:

    Wow,

    Hedge funds dropping Apple stock like a rock falling in air.

    Stocks dropped again and Oblamer was in the area!

  67. 93

    Puddybud spews:

    Wow two Oblamer win states just threw up high unemployment numbas!

    The highest numbers of new filings came from Pennsylvania and Ohio, where there were thousands of layoffs in the construction, manufacturing, and automobile industries.

    Both states had been targeted by the presidential campaigns. President Obama highlighted his record of job creation in Ohio in particular, focusing on the automobile industry. The state reported 6,450 new jobless claims in the week after the election–second-highest after Pennsylvania, which recorded 7,766 new claims.

  68. 94

    Puddybud spews:

    Memo for ylbuttspigot now that Nov 6th has come and gone

    Mitt Romney still a multi-millionaire

    Puddy still travels for a living

    ylbuttspigot is still unemployed

    Guess that one out of three sucks to be you mofo!

  69. 96

    Puddybud spews:

    ylbuttspigot is still unemployed

    No one wants your sorry life ylbuttspigot!

    Did yuse the Oblamer fone for that FREE STUFF?

  70. 97

    Michael spews:

    From those lefty, protectionist, commies at the economist.

    . “Berating Rice, who had nothing to do with Benghazi aside from representing the administration on these talk shows, is nuts,” Mr Drum writes. “The intelligence community was wrong about one relatively unimportant fact, and Rice passed along that mistake. That’s it. There’s no coverup, no conspiracy, no incompetence, no scandal.”

    This is absolutely right as far as it goes, but it doesn’t go far enough. At the most fundamental level, the reason it is absurd to suspect the existence of a “cover-up” over the Benghazi attack is that such a cover-up could not have had any conceivable goal.
    http://www.economist.com/blogs.....e?fsrc=rss

    There’s no cover up and a cover up would have done nothing. But, please, dear friends on the right, keep screaming your heads off about this. You see the more you open your traps the crazier you look and the more people you drive away.

  71. 99

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    The Montana Superintendent of Public Instruction race has incumbent Denise Juneau ahead, and the provisional winner, but a recount is likely, and it looks like the GOP Challenger will go forward with it, although under Montana Law, the person who requests a recount has to pay. The projected cost is around $100,000.

    http://www.ktvq.com/news/cost-.....s-100-000/

  72. 100

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Michael at 97,

    I don’t know if your description of the Economist was sarcasm, but unfortunately since they endorsed the President for re-election, some on the right will think your description is correct.

    As for the allegend cover-up, what was to cover up, that the CIA was 24 minutes late getting to the aid of the consulate. The ambassador died of smoke inhalation, and Libyans died trying to protect him. One account I heard in the news, was that it was Libyan civilians who tried to take the ambassador to the hospital.

  73. 102

    Michael spews:

    As for the allegend cover-up, what was to cover up

    Nothing. The whole cover up meme doesn’t even make sense.

  74. 103

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Where was Kap’n Kornflake today?

    Did he miss the big news about his Right Wing Talking Point bullshit – BENGHAZI!
    McCain skips Benghazi briefing, gets testy when questioned by CNN

    Most of the Republican members of a Senate committee investigating the terrorist attack at the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, skipped a classified briefing by administration officials on the incident Wednesday, CNN has learned.

    I don’t know about Bob, but I think there needs to be a Watergate-style commission to investigate these Republican Senators.

  75. 104

    spews:

    96 – LOL! Still coming back for more..

    How many times you used that “skew” bullshit?

    two recent polls over-sampled DUMMOCRAPTS again which features skewed results…

    yet the slobbering libtard media purposely keeps skewing the samples.

    The CBS Ohio poll admits oversampling DUMMOCRAPTS at a 9% higher rate

    LOL! Nate Silver, Prof Darryl and MARKOS MOULITSAS hung tough with the quality numbers and look who WON and look who were shown to be FOOLS!

    “fleeced”, “exploited” and “lied to” by the right wing BULLSHIT complex!

  76. 105

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @105 Shhh! Don’t tell puddles that Romney LOST the election. He has an inexhaustible supply of conspiracy theories to explain that away.

  77. 106

    ArtFart spews:

    I don’t recall hearing or seeing anything much in recent years about new, exciting products from Hostess. The food market has changed recently, part of it being a long-overdue increase in consumer awareness of just how badly consumption of large quantities of “junk food” jeopardizes health. Mind you, I expect Pudsucker or some other idiot to chime in here about the “nanny state” or “left wing foodies”, but reality’s reality for the huge and rapidly growing percentage of the population struggling with type 2 diabetes.

    In any case, if you’re in business and want to continue the enterprise, it would seem reasonable to pay attention to the market and if your principal product lines aren’t doing so well, come up with something the public might like better. It doesn’t really look like Hostess did that, instead continuing to push different-shaped hunks of sponge cake laden with HFCS, artificial flavorings and chemical preservatives, with the “unique” characteristic of a big blob of sweetened Kaopectate in the center. From this, and the way it’s turned out, management must have at some point decided to forget investing in a long-term future and instead squeeze out every last dime of profit from an aging company as it was allowed to fall apart.

  78. 107

    Puddybud spews:

    Mind you, I expect Pudsucker or some other idiot to chime in here about the “nanny state” or “left wing foodies”, but reality’s reality for the huge and rapidly growing percentage of the population struggling with type 2 diabetes.

    Don’t worry Farty Art… you are the only idiot thinking that here. Keep da faith brotha!

  79. 109

    Puddybud spews:

    Ron Paul in his retirement speech made an interesting comment…

    “I’ve thought a lot about why those of us who believe in liberty as a solution, have done so poorly in convincing others of its benefits. If liberty is what we claim it is, the principle that protects all personal, social, and economic decisions necessary for maximum prosperity and the best chance for peace, it should be an easy sell. Yet history has shown that the masses have been quite receptive to the promises of authoritarians, which are rarely, if ever, fulfilled. Should we have authoritarianism, or liberty?”

    Promises of authoritarians, sounds like what libtards swallowed again with Oblamer!

  80. 110

    MikeBoyScout spews:

    Uncle Puddles,

    Who has grifted you out of more money for hopeless loser causes:
    Mitt Romney?
    Or Ron Paul?

  81. 111

    Michael spews:

    Otto Zehm’s murder is only going to serve 51 months (at most) in jail.

    For those who aren’t familiar with the case Otto Zehm was a developmentally disabled guy who walked to the same connivence store several times a week to buy a candy bar. On his last trip to the store a couple of teenage girls thought he looked suspicious (actually he looked retarded) and called the police. Officer Karl Thompson got the call from 911 dispatch and raced into the store and proceeded to beat Otto, who was in the process of picking out a candy bar and whom I would suspect looked like a retarded guy buying a candy bar, to death.

    I love Spokane and am a defender of the place, but their police department is flat out corrupt.

    http://www.kxly.com/news/spoka.....index.html
    SPOKANE, Wash. -
    A dark chapter in the Spokane Police Department’s history was closed Thursday as former Officer Karl Thompson was sentenced to 51 months in prison for violating Otto Zehm’s civil rights and using excessive force during a 2006 confrontation.

    After sentencing, the defense team attempted to have Thompson stay free pending an appeal of his sentence. Judge Fred Van Sickle denied the request and ordered that the former police officer, once considered a contender for Spokane police chief, to begin serving his prison sentence. He was handcuffed and escorted out of the courtroom.

  82. 112

    Ekim spews:

    @111
    From one of the comments to the story:

    “A dark chapter in the Spokane Police Department’s history was closed Thursday as former Officer Karl Thompson was sentenced to 51 months in prison for violating Otto Zehm’s civil rights…….” Don’t forget about the comrades that stood to salute him, IN FRONT OF Otto’s family when he was found GUILTY! Do you think those cops have had a change of heart now that Thompson has been sentenced? Nope, they haven’t. Remember that.

    I wonder why Spokane police have such an image problem…

  83. 113

    Michael spews:

    I wonder why Spokane police have such an image problem…

    They don’t have an image problem, they have a corruption problem. Deal with the corruption problem and the image problem will take care of its self.

  84. 114

    Steve spews:

    “hunks of sponge cake laden with HFCS, artificial flavorings and chemical preservatives, with the “unique” characteristic of a big blob of sweetened Kaopectate in the center”

    Mmmmmmmm

  85. 115

    rhp6033 spews:

    # 106: I still remember a drawing I saw from the early 1980′s of a Hostess product. It was a simple drawing, consisting of a large oval circle labeled “car seat stuffing”, and the tiny innner circle labled “creamy filling”.

    As for the management saying they are going to liquidate Hostess, there’s probably a plan in place for a new company to buy the Hostess assetts in bankruptcy for pennies on the dollar, with the current management keeping well-paying positions and receiving big bonuses upon culmination of the deal. They will then invite workers to interview for their old jobs, at significant wage cuts and no benefits.

    As the old saying goes, “Bankruptcy is the art of taking your wallet out of coat pocket and putting it into your back pocket, then handing your creditors the coat off your back”.

  86. 116

    Puddybud spews:

    BoyScout…

    No one. Puddy kinda cheap when it comes to campaign contributions. Butt, Ron Paul nails y’all good!

  87. 117

    spews:

    Promises of authoritarians

    The only one who’s barking orders are right wingers in these these threads and most other places.. See Bill-O with his “shut-up” orders.

    Those “authoritarians” promise “trickle-on”. And they DELIVER…

    idiot tool @ 109 – “fleeced”, “exploited” and “lied to” by the right wing BULLSHIT complex.