– I assume you’ve already bought your Halloween candy, but holy cow.
– Shorter Pudge: Congress forced me to keep my kids up late with its nefarious daylight savings time. (And From Carl, sunset is before 6:00. How early do Pudge’s kids need to be home?)
– Whoever is in charge of making signs for the NY Police protest needs to, um, try harder.
– It’s really annoying that jaywalking is ticketed. Also, apparently, not where the problem lies.
– If we’re not actually painting the map red, we can’t be an empire.
– Endemic.
Afraid I have to admit some sense of schadenfruede as I watch those who’s political party cynically used this racist tactic to gain support, now have to deal with the unintended consequences.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....or31m.html
Alabama & Eastern Washington are two of the most conservative and Republican areas of the country, so I doubt they will see the connection between their xenophobic voting habits and the hole in their pocketbooks.
I wonder what “festivities” the Pudge household celebrates? Pudge is an avowed Bible Thumper and would most likely label Halloween as demonic.
I would ask him directly, but he doesn’t let me post there anymore. We got into a little tiff over his Thumperism.
2. Why do you hate believers so much?
I feel pity for you and your spewed hatred for Believers whether they are Christian or Jew. Perhaps you envy those with faith and belief.
I don’t blame Pudge for banning you :)
Hate them? No, I just dislike their irrational and homicidal behavior. They cause sooo much trouble and heartache.
I wish we could isolate them elsewhere to slug out the difference between their inerrant revelations without killing the rest of us.
Why do you love them so much?
Oy veh….
Yikes!
Cain’s got some ‘splaining* to do.
At the National Press Club, and in a friedly interview on Fox News, he addressed the allegations that two women accused him of sexual harrassment while he was President of the National Restaurant Association – sort of.
“The report said the women signed agreements with the restaurant group that gave them five-figure financial payouts to leave the association and barred them from discussing their departures. Neither woman was identified.
Cain said he had never personally settled any sexual harassment suit, and that if the NRA had settled any claims, it had done so without his knowledge.
“If the Restaurant Association did a settlement, I wasn’t even aware of it, and I hope it wasn’t for much because nothing happened,” he explained on Fox. “So if there was a settlement, it was handled by some of the other officers that worked for me at the association.”
Cain said, though, during an afternoon speech that he wouldn’t ask the association to release further information, and that his campaign viewed the issue as closed.
“As far as we’re concerned, enough’s said about this issue,” Cain said.
Cain says he was ‘falsely accused’ of harassment
I guess Cain is counting on those non-disclosure agreements which the women signed to keep them quiet while he denied any guilt, and also denied any knowledge of the settlements.
He may hope this story stays closed, but with those comments, he pretty much has insured that it will not. Even if the women and their lawyers can’t talk, Cain has pretty much given the green light to reporters to descend upon anyone who has ever worked at the National Restaurant Association to get them to spill the beans. It’s highly unlikely that he doesn’t have any enemies there (every boss has subordinates who don’t remain completely loyal to them decades later). Eventually the names of the women will surface – probably this week. And somebody who was involved in the settlement will probably bristle at the idea that they did this without Cain’s knowledge, and argue that Cain had detailed information about the progress of negotiations and the ultimate settlement.
In the meantime, every candidate will be calling on him to release the files, in order to back up his claim that these were “baseless” charges.
If they were baseless charges, the settlement would be pretty small – in the range of severence pay. But the reported six-figure payouts hardly seem like settlment amounts for “baseless” claims.
*splaining” was a reference to a Republican Senator on the Judiciary Committee which used the term while questioning Justice Sodameyor (sp?) about her writings. Some considered it a racially insensative joke, in that it used a disparaging “I Love Lucy” line from hispanic Desi Arnez towards a hispanic Supreme Court nominee.
Of course, Cain blamed the “liberals” for making the allegations against him. It’s far more likely that the allegations originated from his competitors for the Republican nomination.
It looks like we’ve come a long way since Ronald Reagan’s “11th Comandment”: “Thou shalt speak no ill will against another Republican”.
rhp6033 @9…
Cain prolly should have read Howard Mackay’s book “How To Swim With The Sharks…” before he started. Had to know the “long knives” were gonna be out for him.
“Just following orders” didn’t work in court for these guys, either.
http://iconicphotos.wordpress......nuremberg/
@7 This story will not go away, and before it’s over, Cain will look like a fucking liar. Which he is.
@9 I agree this story was leaked by Republican sources, but this is bigger than any candidate. Someone in the GOP hierarchy has decided this guy must be stopped. They fear anyone they can’t control. The “mechanic” probably is Rove.
NBC News has talked to one of the women and confirmed she received a cash settlement from the NRA after complaining about unwanted sexual advances by Mr. Cain.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com.....settlement
The denial and coverup is always worse than the actual offense. Cain should have said, “Yes, I did something really dumb 15 years ago, but I learned my lesson and I promise all of you that it’ll never happen again.” People will forgive a human mistake. But they won’t forgive a liar.
I’ll say it again: This comedian (a/k/a Rick Perry) will not be the nominee.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com.....his-chance
And with Cain tripping over his dick, that leaves Mittens as the last man standing.
So in other words, the growers cannot make the profit they want, paying wages that Americans will work at.
I’m the victim here!
I saw the Pudge thing, if whining was an Olympic sport the man would get a gold.
Giving credit where credit’s do, at least he still takes his kids trick or treating. A lot of the righty Christians around here think the practice is satanic or some rubbish and don’t do it.
@1 “worker advocates say there’d be no shortage if growers were willing to pay workers more”
The bankster 1% in Chicago had a little message they wanted to get out to the 99% movement camped out in the streets below. So someone at the Chicago Board of Trade poured leaflets out of the window – to rain down on the demonstrators below. The leaflets read
Let’s have THEM pick apples.
It’s not that out-of-work gringos haven’t tried. It’s not even necessarily the low pay, lack of housing, and seasonal employment. Picking apples is back-breaking hard physical labor and you have to be conditioned to do it, and used to it, or you can’t do it. A Mexican accustomed to this work can pick 10 bins a day — and make $200 in a day. Americanos who have tried it are hard-pressed to pick 3 bins a day — that’s $60 a day for backbreaking outdoor labor, in all weather, and you have to burn $4 gas just to get there.
Generations of eastern Washington growers have depended on cheap foreign labor. Then some rightwing ideologues came along and ran off the cheap foreign labor. Now what? Looks like they’re out of business.
It seems to me those folks should have been voting for Democrats all along. Or, at least, ever since Democrats built those dams that make cheap electricity and cheap irrigation water possible. What on earth were they thinking when they became Republicans?
@21 Yeah, maybe it’s time they worked at real jobs, so they know what WORK is.
@18 Of course you are! You’re a victim of your own sinful human nature. Now get down on your knees and pray for God’s forgiveness, and ask Her to give you the wisdom to become a Democrat. After you see the Light and become a Democrat, all will be well with you.
Huntsman should have run as a Democrat, at least that way he’d still be in the news.
You all know he’s done this to get the crown jewel job: the top speaking fees at right wing confabs and a million buck/year gig on Faux News.
Well played Mr. Cain.
That’s what it seemed like to me. Cain’s gotten big enough, time to fade him out and let the chosen one get the nomination.
The conservatives now have a black right wing crackpot with business bona-fides — proving once and for all that liberals are the real racists.
Is there even one Mormon Dem besides Orson Scott Card?
And with a Dem like that who needs Republicans?
Heard on the raydeeo that the Bakken Shale may play out to as high as 36 billion barrels.
Of course did ya know that the oil is harvested the same as fracked gas? Yep, horizontal drilling, high pressure water and noxious chemicals..
Yes indeed another environmental catastrophe in the makings from the looks of it.
Heh. Obamacare is really killing the jobs in the shale fields.
@28. how do you figure?
What you said is a logical as “The sky turned orange therefore all red haired men are World of Warcraft players”
@21
Famous last words: let them eat cake.
I think the banksters know that the game is rigged and that it can only go on for so long. What I don’t get is why they think people will be civil to them once they fall.
Here’s a video of a “man camp” in ND. A place to hang your hat while you work your tail off grabbing whatever dollars there are to grab in the Bakken shale oil boom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDZzGIhsVDg
I understand the man camps all have at least Dish Network and many may also have internet.
And here’s a mildly interesting vid of a crude oil trucker following a gravel truck through the rugged terrain of western ND. I found it interesting to wonder what this place would be like travelling through it without the roads just like wondering what some wide open spaces are like without wind turbines polluting the view space.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Gr.....BitO03OuN0
This is a decent blog on the Bakken Shale boom:
http://www.bakkenblog.com/
I heard today you can make about 80 grand right now driving a truck hauling oil, gravel, what have you – watch that truck driving vid and judge for yourself if it’s worth it.
Oh my this is too saweeeet!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?N.....gfoeX6wM4g
Bakken formation culture…
Kris Kitko: songstress of the fracking boom!
http://www.youtube.com/user/ki.....6m-pyvhzJA
She plays a mean guitar.
I hope she goes nowhere near those “man camps”.
Why pick apples when I can drive truck for 80K?
This video is really interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
Touches on a lot of aspects of a frac site operation but by no means all.. A lot of those truckers haul water. It takes millions of gallons..
You might want to think twice about a trucker’s job in that boom. The vid taker said he dares go no faster than 20 mph on those dirt roads.
How does Pudge fit himself and all of his kids in his mother’s basement?
Roger @ 16
Could there be any doubt that Perry was totally hammered when he gave that speech? Utterly shitfaced.
@39
Damn, he had to have been drunk.
40
I really can’t imagine what alternative explanation there might be for such a performance.
Fracking Hell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
2012 Presidential Debate Schedule
“The Commission on Presidential Debates … announced the schedule and setting for three presidential debates, and the lone vice presidential debate of the 2012 cycle.
“Obama and his would-be Republican challenger will debate Weds., Oct. 3 at the University of Denver, Tues., Oct. 16 at Hofstra University in metropolitan New York, and on Mon., Oct. 22 at Lynn University in Boca Raton, Fla. The Hofstra debate will be a town hall meeting-style format. The vice presidential debate will be held Thurs., Oct. 11 at Centre College in Danville, Ky.”
(Source: MSNBC)
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Okay, I know MSNBC is a liberal propaganda megaphone (our trolls told me so), so this schedule probably is bullshit. So is the NFL schedule, the NBA schedule, and all the other bullshit published by MSNBC. So go ahead, get the schedule from Fox, if you don’t want to believe anything MSNBC. Or sit at home playing with yourself.
The Grio claims that Cain’s supporters are sticking by him despite the “sex scandal”. I put this in quotation marks because it is a significant choice of words. Once media starts repeating the words “sex scandal”, the particulars begin to lose their importance as the label sticks – a tactic Republicans have been using for quite some time to their benefit, on any number of issues.
So where does this leave us? With Cain with a 25% loyal base, Romney with a 25% loyal base, and with Perry in third place, keeping within striking distance?
I still think that Perry is the only one left who will appeal to the Southern Evangelical wing of the Republican party, as well as the racist wing. With a lot of money behind him, he might be able to stick around until “Super Tuesday”, at least, hoping that Romeny or Cain stumble badly. I had placed my bet on Perry when he first entered the race, but his debate performances have caused him a lot of problems.
Bachman, Gingrich, and the others all seem to be out of the running. They are just hanging on long enough to get past the Iowa Caucus, or perhaps the New Hampshire primary, and are praying for a miracle. I don’t think that’s going to happen. With Chris Christie and Palin out of the way, the field is set.
I still think if the Republicans had any viable brain cells left they would nominate Romney and be done with it. He’s the only one with a prayer against Obama. But apparantly a significan majority of them don’t have the requisite brain cells.
That being said, Cain has some potential to cause problems for Pres. Obama, if he’s the nominee. He could split the African-American base. He’s a dynamic speaker. He’s reasonably intelligent (two college degrees) and has an impressive resume’. He just has whacky ideas, and is too impressed with himself to question those ideas.
It would be fun, however, to see a race between two black men. The bigots would have apoplexy.
@39 Yeah, but it’s okay, ‘cuz he’s gonna create lots of jobs*:
“If you’re looking for a slick politician, or a guy with great teleprompter skills, we already have that, and he’s destroying our economy,” Perry says in the new ad, a direct jab at President Barack Obama. “I’m a doer, not a talker.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45.....sion_2012/
* If he follows his Texas template, they’ll be gummint jobs (presumably created for his friends, relatives, and campaign supporters), because that’s what his ‘Texas miracle’ is.
They’re feeding Perry the same drugs they fed to Bush.. They figure if it worked for the idiot son…
The Republican candidates are taking potshots of each other like they were Dick Cheney and his hunting companions. You would have to think this would leave the eventual nominee to enter the run for the general election as a wounded figure, with his former rivals for the nomination too angry at his/her tactics to cooperate in the campaign.
But the down side is that the Republicans will get to test their ads, like Roger Rabbit referenced in # 45. They will know which ones work and which ones to discard early. They can also dismiss questions about their qualifications raised early in the primary campaign as being “old news”, having already been proven irrelevent (whether it is or not).
While I’m glad the President doesn’t have to concentrate on a primary campaign, I kind of wish he could be honing his skills a little better. He needs to rally the 99% and get them organized to vote if he wants to win re-election.
Right wing horseshit from the Montana friendo arriving in 5..4..3..2..1..
rhp @ 44
I actually half expect a Gingrich run at some point. Those who are not enamored of Romney are running out of options, and Gingrich has not yet had his 15 minutes of being the latest darling.
http://www.mediaite.com/online.....amage-him/
First thing Cain’s got right the whole campaign.
PS…Psst…Herm! It worked.
Why I’m Not Shoveling Money Into Stocks Yet …
Read this article; things aren’t as rosy as the herd stampeding back into stocks wants to believe:
http://online.barrons.com/arti.....OL_hpp_mag
Some choice excerpts:
First, I’ll skip over the bullshit coming out of year, and go straight to the bullshit emanating from our own government:
“[D]idn’t the Bureau of Economic Analysis report on Thursday that gross domestic product in the third quarter grew at a reasonably decent annual rate of 2.5% …? But … John Williams … at Shadow Government Statistics … declares the supposed 2.5% gain ‘outright nonsense.’ And, indeed, he sees it as fresh proof of his contention that GDP is the most ‘heavily biased, heavily guessed at, heavily politicized and most worthless’ measure of the economy foisted … by the powers that be. John’s convinced that, in truth, the economy is limping badly.”
A phony ginned-up GDP number isn’t the only problem:
“What makes us especially uneasy is … the very real yawning gap between consumer income and outgo. In September, by way of illustration, personal income rose all of 0.1%, while consumer spending climbed 0.6%.”
In other words, consumers increased their spending by six times the increase in their incomes, which doesn’t seem very sustainable:
“Logic … would suggest that a pinched consumer, whose house is often underwater, whose job is anything but secure and whose paycheck is unremittingly eaten into by sharply escalating medical costs and painfully higher food and gas prices, is destined to cut down on his spending ….”
And what this means is:
“Since … the lukewarm recovery is the result of an anticipatory inventory build by business, a reluctant consumer … obviously … makes for a gathering cloud over the investment environment ….”
But that’s not all. Abroad, Europe is “moving toward a far greater crisis” and China is a house of cards ripe for “a real-estate panic with all the dressing: the drying up of mortgage credit, a severe hit to household wealth, and businesses going belly up.”
Personally, I think the current situation is too opaque to invest my life savings in it, so I’m gonna sit down here in my rabbit hole and wait a little longer to see what happens upstairs.
I wonder if SCCC would other groups set up camp on their campus. The NRA? The Tea Party?
And with that, I believe I just won this argument.
@50 I said it here first: Rove is the evil puppeteer behind the sex-scandal hit on Cain.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s.....TE=DEFAULT
Remember the Banksters that went to Jail for crashing the world economy and wrecking the US Housing market?
Yeah…I don’t either.
@29
Jim Matheson, congressman from SLC. There’s others, but they either keep quiet about being center→left or keep quiet about being Mormon. I think it’s time for these folks to be loud and proud about both.
Hey, Roger, I had an idea. If we are going to be reducing spending anyway, why don’t we identify corporations which limite their CEO salaries and benefits to a reasonable level? Perhaps, say, 100 X the lowest paid worker’s pay?
Anybody else can do without our money.
Troll @ 52: Aren’t you supposed to be out stealing candy from kid’s halloween baskets tonight?
@52 You believe you win arguments in the same way ancients believed the earth is flat and the sun revolves around it.
@57 Don’t encourage him.
@56 You may be interested in this CNBC video about CEO pay. But the punch line, and my reason for posting it, comes at the very end when a guest expresses “concern” about the political clout of unions — with no mention of corporations’ gargantuan political spending and armies of lobbyists — with a straight face.
http://tinyurl.com/3vcsapz
This is typical of how business people think. They worry about “market distortions” of labor costs, but it never occurs to them there’s any problem with the power wielded on the corporate side — even though that power nearly brought the entire system down.
This guy thinks the European bailout is smoke and mirrors. He says stocks will go lower.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/45104927
This guy I’ve never heard of thinks the Greek debt solution proposal won’t pan out either:
http://www.canberratimes.com.a.....40942.aspx
Yeah, sure Troll, you just won the argument. So could you explain what argument you won to the audience that doesn’t share space in your head?
Everybody knows government economic statistics are bullshit, none more so than the CPI, which excludes food and energy costs. But laughable as official numbers are, they’re important, because they drive policy. For example, with gas and food prices stripped out of the CPI, the Fed’s policymakers don’t see this inflation, so they continue making policies that create inflation (e.g., quantitative easing or QE). For a couple of years now, the Fed has been pushing up stock prices at the expense of working-class families facing “stagflation” (stagnant wages and rising prices). I’m not the only one complaining about the myopia of official statistics; the business community is noticing too:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/45107159
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Our trolls ought to be applauding this comment (and others like it), because I’m basically parroting the conservative line on government statistics, the Federal Reserve, and monetary policy. That’s not because I’m falling in line with conservative ideology; rather, it’s because they’re falling in line (whether they know it or not) with my liberal beliefs that government ought to serve the people.
@62
The Greeks should never have been bailed out. Insane.
Another big European financial institution has gone under because of the European debt crisis. Last week Belgian bank Dexia went bust; today MF Global filed for bankruptcy protection. The Euro Zone’s house of cards is tumbling down; this is only the beginning.
“’The euphoria about the latest euro zone bailout will fade quickly, as investors realize that the underlying solvency issues have not been addressed,’ Charles Biderman, CEO at TrimTabs market research firm, wrote in his weekly analysis that came out before the MF Global bankruptcy filing Monday morning. ‘Trying to solve the sovereign debt crisis with more debt and more leverage will not work,’ he added. ‘Instead, it will make the problem worse and make the inevitable bust bigger.’”
http://www.cnbc.com/id/45105740
@65 The Greeks haven’t been bailed out. The European pols only created an illusion they’ve been bailed out. Investors see through it and that’s why stock markets plunged today.
What Occupy Is All About
Here, let me help our trolls understand the “Occupy” protests:
Corporate earnings are up 16% since last year, unemployment down not at all. Analyst estimates for next quarter are 16% also — and also zero change for unemployment.
Does that clarify why the 99% who don’t benefit from a booming corporate sector are taking to the streets?
Look for Greek voters to REJECT the EU bailout.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/45107007
Did ya’ hear the one about the giant roadside coffee pot that’s getting funding in the latest federal transportation bill?
Well, it turns out that the righties (like Mr. McCain) made that one up out of thin air.
I can see how people might not like the Democrats and I’m fine with that, but how anyone can support lying sleaze bags like Coburn is beyond me.
roger rabbit—i’m glad I listened to cynical and got out of the market when the dow was at 12,200. it’s 11,700 now, down another 250 points. i think this europe mess is far from over. the bounce up however, showed how badly the market wants it to be over. you are also right about corp earnings and unemployment. current earnings dont predict the future necessarily. with unemployment continuing to be horrible, likely earnings will eventually reflect that, along with the europe mess
Waaaaah! Waaaah! It’s not fair!!! Whine the neo-crazies!
If it can happen in Israel of all places with a freaking right wing government in charge why not here?
http://www.globalpost.com/disp.....tions-rich
I guess the right wing nutcases will now say those rich Israelis will now come here to the good ole’ USA.
We’re going to get new “job creators” wingnuts! You can be happy!
Pffft. It never ends with these idiots.
@71 It’s not domestic unemployment that’s hurting corporate earnings. Profits have risen mightily since 2009 despite a U.S. unemployment rate stuck at 9% and stagnant household incomes. To understand why profits will weaken going forward, you have to know where the strong profits of the last couple years came from. Mostly one-time productivity gains realized by laying off workers and making those who remain on the payroll work harder for less pay. That cow gives only so much milk before she goes dry, and she’s about empty. When that’s over, corporations will need increased sales to grow their bottom lines, but it’s very hard to see where the demand will come from with unemployment stuck at 9% and household incomes stagnant.
Here’s why stocks aren’t cheap even after this summer’s selloff. Let’s assume stocks give up their October gains and fall back to their August and September lows — they still aren’t cheap. To illustrate why, let’s assume XYZ Corp. shares are $20 and EPS (earnings per share) are $1.60, which gives you a P/E of 12.5. But you’re not buying past earnings; you’re buying future earnings. And if next year’s earnings fall to $1.40, you’re actually paying a multiple of 14.3 for that stock. Thus, if you believe corporate earnings will weaken next year, it follows that current P/Es overstate the value of the EPS you’re buying. For many companies, I adjust the P/E upward by 15% to get a rule-of-thumb valuation.
Greece’s ruling party doesn’t want to take the heat for unpopular austerity measures or the collapse of the EU, so they’ve passed the hot potato to the public rioting outside parliament by putting austerity up for a public vote. You know what’s going to happen. The Greeks in the streets aren’t going to vote for higher bread prices and smaller paychecks! After they’ve voted Greece into insolvency the pols will wash their hands of the whole mess and retire to seaside villas. Greece will default, European banks will go under, the EU will break up, Europe will sink into a long recession, and American banks and corporations will be hit hard enough to drag the U.S. back into recession. Once again, political cowardice and failure by leaders to lead is going to rule the day.
Europe’s politicians are even more gutless than ours, if that’s possible.
RR @ 73: At a cargo industry conference I recently attended, the consensus of the experts was that cargo volumes (both air and sea) would remain flat internationally, for at lest the next year, perhaps two. That assumes that the economy doesn’t get any worse, and the experts were concerned about the situation in Europe.
Cargo volumes are a pretty fair indicator of whch way the economy is going. Import volumes are a measure of retail confidence (itself an indication of consumer confidence), as retailers stock their shelves in expectation of future sales. Export volumes are a measure of worldwide confidence in the economy, as well as the available money supply.
In the fall of 2008 we saw an incredible drop-off of cargo volumes worldwide as early as September, as retailers cancelled orders to Chinese manufacturers for products destined for the holiday shelves. Ocean-cargo rates fell so far that shipping charges were inconsequential in the calculations. The volumes (and rates) recovered somewhat in the first half of 2009, but have remained flat since then.
excellent assessment @ 73.
you and cynical seem to think alike on many investment principles. He seems to think it could be 2-3 more years before being a long-term investor is wise. there is money to be made on short term swings. i know he was playing Chevron for awhile when it hit around $90. but when i talked to him yesterday, he said he was still all out since the move @ dow 12,200.
me too.
I thought this was interesting. Especially the comments. The resistance to these differences drove some people to distraction.
http://www.getrichslowly.org/b.....-the-poor/
I saw this as a Forest Gump parable. Sometimes the wind blows you along, but what you make of it, is what matters.
@RHP
Did you see the 767 belly-landing in Poland?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....r_embedded
That’s some good flying.
What they should have been Aghast is all the money that was loaned to the Greeks over the last decade. They’re not going to pay it back, because they can’t. And everyone knew all along that that that money wasn’t going to get paid back, they just figured that they weren’t the ones going to get left holding the bag.
Greece needs to get it over with and default. The sooner they go belly up the sooner they can get on with life.
I don’t know if this one has been brought up, but this is some sick Wall Street bullshit. If they keep this up, they’re going to get their damned throats slit and nobody will give a fuck because they’ll have it coming to them. Class warfare? Haven’t they a fucking clue? They can lose this “war” and, if they do, some people are going to get downright fucking ugly on their ass.
Party on, you fools. The 99% are coming for you.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10......html?_r=3
I saw this today, I had to chuckle at the matter-of-fact way it was reported. It seems a shoplifter was trying to escape from a Best Buy store in Augusta, Georgia, and ran into a couple of Marines out front who were manning a Toys for Tots collection station. He stabbed one Marine in the back (the injury was “not severe”, and Cpl. Duggan was transported to the hospital. The report continues…
“…The subject was also transported to the local hospital with two broken arms, a broken ankle, a broken leg, several missing teeth, possible broken ribs, multiple contusions, assorted lacerations, a broken nose and a broken jaw…injuries he sustained when he slipped and fell off the curb after stabbing the Marine.”
Assailant suffers injuries from fall
Personally, I think he got off easy. Remember, this is the part of the country were “He needed killing” is still considered a valid defense to a homicide charge.
# 79: Yep, that was some good flying, and when you talk about a three-point landing, you usually aren’t referring to the aft under-belly and the bottom of two engine cowlings. The pilot did get lucky – once he’s on the ground, he’s got absolutely no control, and the airplane could slide anywhere it wants – like those old snow disks we used to use back in the day.
But I’m still perplexed over the cause. A complete hyraulic failure which prevents the landing gear from deploying? That’s strange – there are back-up systems and lots of ways to avoid such a total failure. Heck, even the Gimli Glider was able to deploy it’s RAT and maintain minimal hyraulics even without power, enough to lower it’s landing gear and have some control over the flight control surfaces.
I suspect there’s more to that story, we will probably find out more over the next few weeks as the investigation continues. In the meantime, despite the great landing, that 767 is probably toast – it would be difficult to get it back to the point where it would be considered airworthy. The regulatory authorities are very wary of accidents which put so much stress on the airframe structure in ways it wasn’t intended. If that airplane has a lot of hours on it already, they would probably scrap it.
@82
LMFAO!
I fucking LOVE it! more criminals need to be treated this way….
@83 Darwinian selection at work — nature has a way of eliminating specimens like him before they’re able to spread their defective seed.
In case you guys missed it, MSNBC reports tonight that four members of a rightwing militia group were arrested by the FBI for plotting to blow up federal buildings and spread poison.
*@86
Execute them if guilty…’nuff said