Yesterday I was joking with a friend about how relieved I was to learn that Obama was born in Hawaii, and my friend says, “Why did he wait so long to release his birth certificate?”
“What the fuck????” was my response.
Okay…there are probably many Americans who don’t obsessively follow politics who really don’t know that Obama released his official birth certificate in 2008. The media isn’t helping all that much by discussing “long form” and “short form.”
There is no such thing as a “long form” and a “short form” birth certificate in Hawaii. (Even the fucking White House uses the terminology wrong.) “Long form” and “short form” are Birfer fictions. So why the hell should anyone surrender to the inaccurate framing coming from the nut cases? So let’s try to get it right.
The birth certificate that Obama released in 2008 is THE official birth certificate currently provided by Hawaii. Anyone born in Hawaii who purchases a copy of their birth certificate gets a similar computer generated birth certificate. It is not the “short form.” It is just the current form.
Hawaii does not currently produce an official, legal document that contains an image of the vault copy of the birth records. This is old news, but was verified again this week by CNN. A person CAN acquire an image of the vault copy of the birth certificate, but it is not a valid, certified document. It’s cannot be used for purposes like acquiring a passport.
There is one exception to that.
President Obama asked for a waiver of Hawaii’s practices in order to get a birth certificate bearing an image of the vault copy of his birth certificate. Loretta Fuddy, Hawaii’s Director of Health responded to the request:
…in recognition of your status of President of the United States, I am making an exception to the current departmental policy, which is to issue a computer generated certified copy.
I’m sure that someone will suggest that Obama must now be impeached for outrageously “pulling strings.” Yes…for Obama-haters this “abuse of power” will be a tangible charge to use against him for his real crime: Presiding while Black.
Speaking of pandering to the ignorant, even Fox News sometimes mocks their political guests by asking them pointblank questions like:
Q — “Well, Mr. Trump: You’ve stated that President Obama should do something about OPEC. What would you do?
A — I’d talk to them.
Q — You’d talk to them. OK. But what, specifically, would you do?
A – I just told you. I’d talk to them.
Q – OK. What would you talk to them about?
A – Ummmnnn….. About high oil prices.
Q – And when you talked to OPEC about high oil prices, what would you say?
A – Look, fellas. Jig’s up. You’ve had your fun and now the game’s over.
Q – That’s your plan?
A – Mmmmmnnnn… Yup!”
Good luck in 2012 Republicans. This is your front-runner.
Trump also wants the president to work longer hours and spend less time on the basketball court.
That’s so hypocritical and racist. He never complained about Nixon’s bowling, GWB’s heavy equipment operating, or FDR’s Warm Springs, GA water therapy.
There is more to come. Read the certificate!
It clearly suggests that Obama was the son of TWO men .. his mom actually signed her name as “Stanley”not “Ana.”
Is this what Obama has been trying to hide?
We should demand that Obama reveal his karyotype or submit to PUBLIC sequencing of his genome!
I posted an annotated copy of the suspect “birth certificate at the Ave.
re 3: What sort of wording could the Republicans and the media expect on this birth certificate imbroglio were it Harry Truman commenting on it?
It might be a little stronger than ‘silliness’.
They’ve been demanding the so-called (by them) “long form.” Now that they’ve got the so-called (by them) “long form,” polls show they don’t believe it. This proves the birfers are indeed the carnival barkers the president says they are — people who make noise just to attract attention to themselves and whatever it is they’re selling. Can anyone be less intellectually honest than this crowd?
Let’s just move on from this, the Royal Wedding will be over too after tomorrow, I haven’t heard anything about Charlie Sheen in forever, let’s try to block the next piece of pablum before the MSM tries to smother us with it.
I’m curious how you get this,
On a post about this,
In your opinion then, anyone who was unsure of Presidents Obama birth certificate is racist?
That’s a long leap.
Looks Like Trump’s Right: How the Hell Did This President Get Into Those Ivy League Schools?
Right Stuff,
“I’m curious how you get this…On a post about this”
I started with the latter and worked backwards.
“In your opinion then, anyone who was unsure of Presidents Obama birth certificate is racist?”
No. I’m quite sure there are other reasons. You know, like mental illness….
Darryl, “Presiding while Black”
RS, “In your opinion then, anyone who was unsure of Presidents Obama birth certificate is racist?”
No, not all. I’m pretty sure some are just nuttier than a fruitcake. Let’s put this back on you. Is it your opinion that there are no racist birthers? If it’s not about race, then what is it about? Do you really think that this is only about a birth certificate?
Darryl
While I don’t doubt there are some who are racist, think President Obama is a muslim, and not born of the USA, I think this is a very small number…
There’s the crazy on all sides…So Trump is now a Republican problem ( I wonder when he decided he was Republican?)You guys get Rosie…She STILL bleats on and on about GWB and 9/11.
Truthers and Birthers……
Now, I do agree with President Obama, we have far more important things to worry about than this non issue
His words
As he departs to do the Oprah show………FAIL..
Just As I Predicted Above …
Lawrence O’Donnell, as an experiment, invited “Birther Queen” Orly Taitz on his show to see if she would now admit that Obama is a U.S. citizen.
Fat chance.
Taitz didn’t want to talk about it. Instead, she waived some unrelated document in front of the camera and claimed Obama “committed Social Security fraud.”
That’s SOP for these rightwing liars — When you pin their ears back with rock-hard evidence that they lied … they try to change the subject. They never, ever, admit they were wrong.
The situation escalated into a yelling match and O’Donnell ended up kicking Taitz off the show. It’s his show, he has a right to do that, he doesn’t have to give a stage and microphone to this liar.
Btw, Taitz has been kicked out of courtrooms, too. She just doesn’t believe any rules apply to her.
Anyone who thinks there are no birthers with a racist agenda has his head in the sand.
Man, you could not make this shit up.
In your opinion then, anyone who was unsure of Presidents Obama birth certificate is racist?
If they continue. Yes.
It has been proved 6 ways to Sunday that he’s American. Only the biracial President was asked, and asked, and asked for his papers.
To continue is out and out racism.
@12
Here it is…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?f.....HVoR9jGn78
I nearly pissed myself laughing so hard…
She is a complete moron. Larry O….? What did he expect?
I never did understand this birther thing. It just seemed stupid to me. It reminds me of the religious zealots I grew up around, always willing to tell you how God wants you to live your life. They can’t stand it when they don’t get what they want, and want to make life miserable for everyone.
@15
Nope….
McCain was held to the same standard….
Google “mccain citizen?” and enjoy….
Maybe in some cases. IMO stupidity/insanity is more likely..
@18 “McCain was held to the same standard….
Google “mccain citizen?” and enjoy….”
Horseshit. Do you have anything that isn’t more than three years old? Do you actually consider that to be equivalent to what has gone on for several years now with these birthers? Do you really think that there’d be some McCain citizenship issue if he had won the 2008 election? Hmm, and what could possibly have inspired anybody on the left to go off on McCain’s citizenship back in 2008?
The birthers are a bunch of damned racists. Why else would they have gone off the deep end with this birther BS?
@18.
That’s a false equivelancy, like saying a person in a phone booth makes as much noise as a packed football stadium.
Only the fringe questioned mccain, and it was never asked again and again and again by rush and faux news and beck and baccman, etc.
I misspoke, what I should have said was anyone who continues to question Presidents Obama birth certificate or moves on to now questioning his qualifications is racist, race baiting or a grifter.
Birther racists?
@11 “I think this is a very small number…”
@18 “IMO stupidity/insanity is more likely..”
Today’s GOP – racist, stupid or insane? Take your pick? Of course, some believe that to be a Republican these days one has to be all three. heh- I find it hard to argue with that.
Obama Wallops Trump In Poll
Yesterday, after President Obama released his so-called “long form” birth certificate, a poll showed 39% of Americans still don’t believe he’s a citizen.
Today, a poll shows Obama beating Trump 69%-31% in a head-to-head matchup — which means Trump can’t even get all the birthers!!
It’s tempting to predict The Donald’s political career will be a short one.
How’s this for a political platform: Which does Trump have more of … houses, TV shows, divorces, or bankruptcies?
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
Questioning Obama’s supplied birth certificate is indeed racist, because in reality anyone and everyone’s birth certificate can be challenged by the lunatics in the same exact way. So why did they wait and do it with the first black president of the US? Black people have been going through this crap for years. You have heard of the acronym “DWB”? It is a variation on DUI and it means Driving While Black.
Because of his race he is being asked to submit more proof of his Americanism than the poor white trash who are questioning him.
It is out and out racism at it’s most nasty.
Anyone who doesn’t understand this better take their head out of Limbaugh’s ass and actually start thinking for themselves.
The Donald and Orly Taitz aren’t the only ones who’ve had the rug yanked out from under them. Joseph Farah, founder and CEO of World Net Daily, a major rightwing lie-mongering site, was getting set to publish a book by Jerome Corsi titled, “Where’s The Birth Certificate? The Case That Barack Obama Is Not Eligible To Be President.”
Here’s the birth certificate, dude. Right up your ass. (Never mind that Obama had already released the official birth certificate back in 2008. This crowd never lets facts confuse them.)
Now watch Farah welsh on a pledge he made in 2009. (Have you ever met a winger who isn’t a welsher? Remember the HA troll, Mark the Welshing Redneck, who still hasn’t paid Goldy the $100 he owes him?)
“One issue [Farah] … harped upon: The certification of live birth didn’t contain the name of the hospital where Obama was born, suggesting that there was some mystery about the matter. Farah in his 2008 column called it ‘something of a state secret.’ Farah even issued a ‘birthday challenge’ to Obama in August 2009 to release his long-form birth certificate, saying World Net Daily would make a $10,000 donation to whatever hospital was listed on the document.
“Wednesday’s release of the certificate of live birth would seem to settle the matter once and for all: It lists the hospital as Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu, the hospital where Obama has said he was born. Pressed by MSNBC TV’s Cenk Uygur Wednesday whether he would honor his commitment and make the donation to Kapiloani, Farah replied: ‘As soon as we establish that it’s a legitimate document.'”
Oh, please.
Kapiolani Hospital will never see a cent of that 10 grand. I guarantee it. This is a winger they’re dealing with. Those guys never admit they’re wrong, and they never pay their bets. (I’d like to see him try that with a Mafia bookie.)
As for Jerome Corsi, does that name ring a bell? It should. He wrote “Unfit For Command,” the pre-2004 election pack of lies that slandered John Kerry’s military service. (As for Corsi’s military service, he doesn’t have any. C’mon, the guy’s a winger, you don’t think he went to Vietnam, do you? Of course not.)
Farah can’t afford to admit he’s wrong, even though it’s obvious he’s wrong. He’s got a book to sell, and if he can’t sell it, he’ll be in deep financial shit. The printing presses are already rolling so he has to move those books off the shelves.
So he’s switching gears. Now he says it doesn’t matter whether Obama was born in a Hawaii hospital, he’s not eligible to be president anyway, because he holds “dual citizenship” in Indonesia and Kenya.
Really? Let’s see Farah come up with proof that Obama has ever been a citizen of either of those countries. He’s making that claim, so the burden of proof is on him.
What a bunch of shitheads. It doesn’t get any sillier than this, folks.
I see that Fox News host Eric Bolling had Pam Geller on to spread her BS concerns that the long-form birth certificate that was just released is a fake.
Get a load of this line out of Bolling, “if you gave birth to the President of the United States, don’t you think your family would know about it?”
Huh?
Pam Geller. Isn’t she like some kind of super-blogger-hero to the right-wing loons?
So anyways, Right Stuff, into which category do these two Klowns fall – crazy, stupid, racist or all of the above?
@19, 20, 21: Shorter Right Stuff:
He just can’t help himself.
@23 “DWB” “Driving While Black”
Today we have PWB. President while black. Most, though not all, wingnutty, teabagging birthers realize that they can’t be overt with their racism. So they hide their race hate behind the birther nonsense. At least they fooled Right Stuff with that shit, if nobody else.
Steve @19
Obama won…..
If McCain had one it’d be your sides crazies pulling this shit…Need proof? See the truthers..
I rightly put down the assertion that presdidet Obama was asked to “show his papers” due to race….
@23
Best then get after that racist Hillary Clinton…Ooops, that don’t fit your little DailyKOS mind.
http://www.politico.com/news/s.....53563.html
This was all cooked up by a Democrat…By Steves logic…Because Hillary (Democrat) challenged Obamas ligitimacy, she is a racist, and therefore all Democrats are racist.
@27
I don’t know where you’re getting anything like I’m fooled by anyone…Especially you.
I could give a F*^k about birthers, truthers, Kennedy freaks, Area51 weirdos etc etc….
I simply stated that not all folks who are birthers are racist. Clearly they are not all Republicans either….
But hey, if you want to blame criticism of him as POTUS as racism, that’s your deal…
I see it differently. I see him as a weak leader who is leaving office after 1 failed term. I suppose that makes me racist by your standard….
Donald Trump is engaging in some pretty shameless self-promotion. Once he’s done milking the publicity out of this thing, he’ll go back to his other arrogant rich boy endeavors.
I wonder how Trump would have turned out had he been born in a lower middle class family that actually had to worry about making it from paycheck to paycheck. That’s how it was for me: we were always on the edge when it came to money. Trump, on the other hand, really never had to worry about money.
Why are so many people so desperate to believe that Barack Obama was not born a citizen?
Why do so many call him a socialist? (He’s way closer to a crony capitalist – a kinder, gentler Bush if you ask me.)
Easy – they can’t call him some racist epithet like they would in the “good old days” so they knee-jerk out the next best thing.
@24, Roger, note also that Farah is one of Trump’s current “political” advisors.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.....-a-bit.php
But hey, if you want to blame criticism of him as POTUS as racism, that’s your deal…
We’re not talking here about criticism of President Obama’s policies or behavior in office. We’re talking about citizens who reject all of the legal evidence that President Obama holds his office legitimately. These people degrade our democracy with their refusal to face reality, and the Republican politicians who pander to their contrafactual nonsense should not hold office.
Of the forty-four men who have Presided over the United States, only one has been repeatedly asked to produce multiple documents attesting to his birth. If you want to claim it’s just a coincidence that he’s also the only not-entirely-white guy to hold said office, please make that clear, because there’s a beautiful bridge in my hometown which would suit you perfectly, and I can arrange for you to purchase it for a real bargain price.
By the way, the “natural-born citizen” requirement was widely believed by historians to have been inserted to keep one man’s ambitions in check: Alexander Hamilton, who was born in Nevis in the Carribean. But Hamilton turned out to be the only delegate from New York to actually sign the Constitution.
@29 “I simply stated that not all folks who are birthers are racist.”
No, that’s not what you wrote. What you wrote is this,
@11 “I think this is a very small number…”
Then you pull this out of your ass,
@28 “If McCain had one it’d be your sides crazies pulling this shit…Need proof? See the truthers..”
Horseshit. The closest America has to a political truther is Libertarian Ron Paul, who likes to hang out with Alex Jones on his radio program nodding his head as Jones prattles on about his 9/11 conspiracies.
More @28, “I rightly put down the assertion that presdidet Obama was asked to “show his papers” due to race….”
Then why do you say that “a very small number…” of birthers are racists? Which is it? I’ll help you out here, Right Stuff. Birthers are racists. Birthers are wingnuts.
@28 “Clearly they are not all Republicans either….”
Identify the Democrats who have been going on and on and on about the President’s birth certificate for the last three years? Who are the Democrats who have become so damned obsessed with his birth certificate?
@28 “By Steves logic…Because Hillary (Democrat) challenged Obamas ligitimacy, she is a racist, and therefore all Democrats are racist.”
If Clinton had been obsessed by birtherism and that was all she could talk about for years, then you might have a point. If I had wrote that all Republicans are racists, you might have a point. But she didn’t and I didn’t, so you don’t. It’s just another wingnut false equivalency. And apparently you can’t get there without making shit up.