Not being silent

The fairly extensive racist graffiti attack last weekend in Vancouver has prompted Aneurin to put up the PayPal button for donations to the account originally set up last year when the car of two Obama supporters was similarly defaced. The account is intended to help victims defray some of the costs of repairs and cleanup, although equally important is that the community send a message that this sort of stuff will not be met with silence.

It was heartening last year that several generous donations came from the Seattle area, that was greatly appreciated.

The Obama supporters’ car was repainted with some help from a very kind local body shop. It’s kind of hard to say how much can be done financially with the current incident, as it was far more widespread, involving multiple vehicles, homes and other property. Maybe some folks insurance deductibles could be met or something. Like it’s not hard enough in the economy right now, having some racist idiots spray painting stuff is maddening.

A 16 year old high school student who seemed to be one of the main targets of last weekend’s incident turns out to be a highly regarded basketball star at Fort Vancouver High School. She spoke to a Portland television station about the graffiti.

I’m optimistic that community leaders here in Clark County are concerned about this kind of stuff and are going to speak out about it. Placing plastic pelicans in someone’s lawn is a prank, spraying swastikas and hate messages, not so much.


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    Does anyone remember John asking for donations to the family of the Tubaman, or James Paroline? They were actually murdered.

    Remember what I taught you people. Put these posts in perspective. Pull back. Ask questions. When does John speak out? When does he remain silent and look the other way? Is there a pattern to it?

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    Blame it on the rain spews:

    “We’re waiting for Mother Nature to clean [the black spray paint on the driveway] up,” [Shamirica]Scott said.

    Well, she certainly is dumb, but the derogatory term is uncalled for.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @1 Yes, let’s put things in perspective: You’re an annoying fingernails-on-chalkboard asshole who deliberately misspells Jon’s name as a calculated form of insult — so why should anyone pay attention to anything you have to say? That’s like addressing a business letter to a female manager, “Dear Sir.” Do you think she would read the rest of the letter? That’s probably as far she she’d go before chucking it in the round file. Until you give Jon the respect he deserves by spelling his name properly — fuck you.

    The rest of your comment has not been, and will not be, read by me. Therefore, I’m unfamiliar with its content and will not comment on it.

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    I love John’s post title, “Not being silent.”

    John WILL NOT BE SILENT when it comes to hateful graffiti messages against minorities, but when it’s minorities committing the hate, uh, yeah, he’ll be silent.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Republican gall and hypocrisy may have plumbed a new depth. We learn from the news this morning that Gov. Sanford used taxpayer money to finance trips to fuck his Argentine girlfriend, and the straying governor is ignoring a growing cacophony of demands to resign by saying he’s “focusing on his family” right now. What an asshole.

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    Lex Talionis spews:

    You’re an annoying fingernails-on-chalkboard asshole who deliberately misspells Jon’s name as a calculated form of insult — so why should anyone pay attention to anything you have to say?

    He had a good point there @ 1, roadkill. But you’re too busy getting your cottontail all in a furl because he inserted an ‘h’ into the name. You’re a certified dumbfuck,sir. But you already knew that.

    Why would she wait until “mother nature” cleans up the spray paint? That statement alone tells me one of two things. She’s lazy, her dad is lazy, or it’s not that big of a deal to them worthy of putting some elbow grease and scrubbing it away.

    A Fundamental difference between conservative and liberal thinking.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    In other news, police have arrested two rightwing terrorists, who happen to be twin brothers, for a 2004 mail bomb attack that injured a black diversity director in Arizona.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Finally, rounding out this morning’s news roundup, Iran’s dictators are signaling their intention to execute protest leaders.

    Experts on Iran’s internal affairs agree across the board that President Obama has handled the turmoil in that country exactly right. The president has carefully measured his criticism of that country’s leaders in tandem with the regime’s escalation of its repression. To go whole hog out of the gate, as numerous stupid Republican politicians loudly demanded, would have played into the ayatollahs’ hands. This is one of many reasons why we, not them, should be running this country and its foreign policy.

    The ultraconservative religious fanatics clinging to illegimate power in Iran are also flaunting their attitude toward dissent against their faith-based dictatorship:

    “In Friday’s central Muslim sermon at Tehran University, a senior cleric, Ayatollah Ahmed Khatami, called for harsh retribution for dissent. … Khatami said those who disturbed the peace and destroyed public property were ‘at war with God,’ and said they should be ‘dealt with without mercy.’

    Sounds a lot like the rightwing theocratic authoritarians in our own country, don’t they? Religious dictators are basically the same everywhere. I once co-owned a business with an ethically-challenged rightwing christofascist who responded to any questioning of his questionable business practices with, “God is telling me how to run this business, and if you question my decisions, you are blaspheming God and will go to Hell.” The only way to deal with people like that is to not deal with them. When it’s a business, you can walk away; when they get hold of an entire country, its people had better be armed.

    That’s why I’ve been saying all along that liberals must arm. Don’t believe for one fucking minute that our own homegrown “Christian” (not) ayatollahs wouldn’t march us all into death camps if they got the chance. After all, they’ve been loudly telling us that’s what they want to do, and given how many rightwing terrorists are out there committing actual shootings and bombings in our country, why shouldn’t we believe they mean what they say?

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @7 “He had a good point there @ 1, roadkill. But you’re too busy getting your cottontail all in a furl because he inserted an ‘h’ into the name. You’re a certified dumbfuck,sir. But you already knew that.”

    I wouldn’t know whether his point had any merit, because I didn’t read it. What I can say, though, is there’s at least two certified dumbfucks posting in this thread, and I ain’t one of ‘em.

    You got one thing right, though: You called me “sir.” And I hope, for your sake, you were smiling when you called me a “dumbfuck.” As those of us who served in the military all know, you can get away with criticizing your superiors as long as you say “sir” and smile when you do it.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Actually, we have at least four certified dumbfucks in this thread (unless we have one or more trolls using more than one screen name), because what we have here is rightwing trolls pooh-poohing racist hate graffiti. Jon is right and you scumbags are wrong: It is a big deal.

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    Wrong. What we have here is John showing that he believes white on black non-violent crimes is more serious than black on white violent crimes.

    John is selectively silent.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Now let’s talk about the Carr brothers, who serve as poster boys for rightwing ballyhooing about black-against-white hate crime.

    The Carrs are black. Their crime began as a home invasion robbery. Choosing a house at random, they brutalized five white young people, four males and a female, by forcing them to strip naked subjecting to “various forms of sexual humiliation, including rape and sodomy” (Wikipedia), then drove them to ATMs and forced them to empty their bank accounts, then took them (still naked) to a snowy deserted field and shot them execution-style in their heads. Then they drove one of the victim’s vehicle over the bodies. Then they returned to the house and beat and stabbed the victims’ dog to death.

    This wasn’t their only horrific crime. A few days before, they robbed a 23-year-old assistant basketball coach, and then shot and killed a 55-year-old cellist and librarian as she tried to escape from them.

    These vermin deserve no mercy from anybody. Everyone agrees on that. At the time of the trial, rightwing loudmouths who didn’t know what they were talking about criticized the prosecutor for not charging the Carrs with a hate crime. The prosecutor responded that would have unnecessarily complicated the prosecution, created opportunities for the defense, and wasn’t needed to get the death penalty. The prosecutor was right and the rightwing critics were wrong; the jury returned guilty verdicts and death sentences against both brothers.

    The Carrs’ death sentences were overturned when the Kansas Supreme Court subsequently ruled that state’s death penalty law unconstitutional, sparing all of that state’s death row inmates. For a while, it appeared the Carrs would get off with life-without-parole. However, the Kansas court’s decision was overturned by SCOTUS and the Carrs are back on death row, where they belong.

    It’s actually hard to say whether the Carrs were motivated by racial hatred, or are merely sociopaths with an urge to brutalize and kill anyone they crossed paths with. So, the rightwing talking point — that authorities turn a blind eye to racial motivation when crimes are committed by blacks against whites — isn’t even necessarily valid in this case. But in any event, their main and specific criticism in this case is that the prosecutor didn’t charge the Carrs with a hate crime. That’s just plain stupid; doing so could have jeopardized the prosecution, and layering on “hate crime” charges in a death penalty case is pointless — how can you enhance a death sentence?

    The Carr case serves as a poster for more than heinous crime. It’s also a poster for the sheer vapidity and shallowness of rightwing talking points. The brainlessness of these armchair quarterbacks is disheartening. They’re so stupid there’s no hope of reasoning with them.

    That, in a word, is where we’re at with rightwingers generally: They’re hopeless. You can’t reason with them. They’re basket cases. There’s absolutely no hope of bringing them around with facts or reasoned argument, no hope they’ll ever be reasonable, no hope of getting even first-grade logical functioning from them. You have a better shot with a tree stump. They’re hopelessly, terminally stupid. Period.

    Fortunately for the traumatized citizens of Wichita, they had a prosecutor who knew what she was doing and had the presence of mind to not listen to the rightwing know-nothing loudmouths who wanted to meddle in the prosecution of one of the most appalling crimes in the city’s history.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @12 Did anyone else hear a noise? It was very brief, perhaps just wind rustling leaves in the gutter.

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    Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:

    Piper, this is another open thread! Look at all the Pelletizer diarrhea in it.

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    Blue John spews:

    The Carr brothers sound like a nasty piece of work. Nice to see justice is being done.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @15 There’s that strange noise again, although it came from a different direction this time.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    As details of singer Michael Jackson’s death and life emerge, we learn from news reports the pop icon left behind $500 million in debt, much of which went to finance a lifestyle that exceeded his income by $20 million to $30 million a year. Jackson may have been a hell of an entertainer but he couldn’t manage his personal finances. It’s okay, though; most of the money is owed to an Arab sheik and several conservative billionaire backers who can afford to eat it.

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    Rujax! spews:

    Roger, I am going to save that comment and jam the quotes in their faces.

    Unfortunately even the gob-smacking you delivered is too reasoned and measured for these idiots…and of course completely over their heads.

    My God…how do they even tie their shoes?!

    You know what I love…I love Col. Sanders favorite chicken trying to turn this into Lincoln v. Douglas or even Coulter v. Brazile with you when it’s really more like the quality of Einstein v. emimem or Colin Powell v. Flava-Flave.

    Man oh man…the fun just never stops.

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    Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:

    Golly Pelletizer when Puddy searched for Carr Brothers and all else, the only link to this is a right-wing hate crime call is this page

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    Michael spews:

    @1, 5, 7

    Jon does have a pattern of writing about things that happen in the Vancouver WA area…

    That he hasn’t written about the Tuba Man ‘proves’ nothing.

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    Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:

    BTW Thomas Sowell is right. He’s a black man who said the media has a double standard regarding inter-racial offenses, tending to play up “vicious crimes by whites against blacks” but play down equally “vicious crimes by blacks against whites.” Puddy agrees. As a black man the libtardo media needs to be evenhanded in reporting all crime. Watch the local news closely and view the words used.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @23 Of course, you’re talking to a brick wall when you try to get wingnuts to comprehend that Jon doesn’t write about Seattle because he lives in Vancouver.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @24 The media doesn’t “have” to be evenhanded about anything, and never has been. The only thing the media “has” to do is sell papers and get listeners. Without those, they’re out of business. Crime coverage has always been sensationalized — because it sells papers and gets listeners, dope. And crime coverage is always dumbed down to the audience that laps up this kind of “news.” To point a particular finger, here locally KING 5 TV had decent (and reasonably objective) local news coverage when Dorothy Stimson owned the stationed but after Belo Corp. acquired it, it became nothing but a crime blotter. It’s not worth watching anymore, and I don’t watch it. The real problem is that news is disappearing in this country, period. It’s being replaced by papparazi fare and rightwing propaganda, and who wants that? If that’s all the media industry can deliver, who cares if the media industry dies?

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    Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:

    Pelletizer, thanks for proving Puddy’s point. The Libtardo MSM is not even handed at all. Otherwise talk radio would die quickly. Instead talk radio thrives.

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    correctnotright spews:

    @27: Thank goodness for Rush Limphead and rightwingnut talk radio.

    Yes, the more those idiots thrive and push the republican aprty into a small minority of racist folls – the more democrats will win elections.

    And that is what counts – we won the election and the republicfools lost big time.

    Puddy- you can have your idiot racist rightwingnut talk radio – I will take the White house, the congress, the american people and health care reform.

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    Rujax! spews:

    Mind-numbingly imbecilic:

    27. Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:

    Pelletizer, thanks for proving Puddy’s point. The Libtardo MSM is not even handed at all. Otherwise talk radio would die quickly. Instead talk radio thrives.

    06/26/2009 at 9:16 am

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    Politically Incorrect spews:

    Graffiti is something dumb-ass kids do. Cathch the little fuckers, humiliate the dogshit out of them in front of their peers, and the graffiti problem will stop.

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    correctnotright spews:

    Poor Puddy – Why should I bother to put up a citation for you. You label all citations as libtard and then use the same media you insult.


    My citation beats the crap out of your wimpy quote. It explains why the Washington Post kowtowed to Bush on the editorial pages and why they are schizophrenic. The reporters digging up the dirt on Bush and the editorial page obliviously paraisng him.

    It is all about the owners. Faux News and Rupert Murdoch, the Blethens and the Seattle Times…they stack their editorial pagees. That is why the Times writes on and on about the inheritance tax – as if anyone else agrees with them in their self-serving quest to pass down millions to the next gneration.

    Luckily, at the rate the Times is losing money – they soon won’t have to pay the tax. Maybe that is why they are run so poorly.

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    Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:

    NutsTooTight: Puddy uses libtardo MSM so you can’t react to it. And you are to stupid to figger that out. If Puddy used Free Republic or NewsMax, you’d piss your pink lace panties.

    Regarding talk radio, you and dense as spent uranium rujax miss the point. Talk Radio appeared because of libtardo MSM. If the media was balanced talk radio would die. The nightly news would not have blatant biases in reporting. But you are your cousin are too dumb to figger that out!

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    Puddybud is shocked SHOCKED spews:


    My citation beats the crap out of your wimpy quote.

    Per Don Joe your [citation needed] quote needs work!

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    manoftruth spews:

    the graffiti also contained this hate message “miss california is a stupid bitch”

    oh , no, wait. that was the medias favorite homosexual, perez hilton. nevermind, its ok then

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    Haywood Jablome spews:

    apparently when minorities and fags attack other people, its not a hate crime….go figure.