“Nobody’s coming to get us”

Courtesy of Crooks and Liars, a truly heart wrenching interview with Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard on Meet the Press. (Quicktime or WMP)

The prepared statement at the beginning is damning enough, but stick with it until the horrible, horrible end. And if you can’t get past the busy servers, here’s a transcript:

“The guy who runs this building I’m in, Emergency Management, he’s responsible for everything. His mother was trapped in St. Bernard nursing home and every day she called him and said, “Are you coming, son? Is somebody coming?” and he said, “Yeah, Mama, somebody’s coming to get you.” Somebody’s coming to get you on Tuesday. Somebody’s coming to get you on Wednesday. Somebody’s coming to get you on Thursday. Somebody’s coming to get you on Friday… and she drowned Friday night. She drowned Friday night! [Sobbing] Nobody’s coming to get us. Nobody’s coming to get us. The Secretary has promised. Everybody’s promised. They’ve had press conferences. I’m sick of the press conferences. For god’s sakes, just shut up and send us somebody.”

And when you’re done drying your eyes, wet them again with this clip of Sen. Mary Landreau threatening to punch President Bush… before she breaks down in tears herself. (Quicktime or WMP)

Comments

  1. 1

    Rename this site to BushHatred.org spews:

    And when you are done shedding a crocodile tear for for this blog’s sudden bouts of gut wrenching cliche designed to compete in the liberal blogger’s top Bush Bashing honors, shed a tear for the Mayor and Governor of NOLA who are in full CYA mode since they could have used hundred of buses to evacutate people BEFORE the hurricane hit, saving many lives, but instead chose to ignore evacuation plans that many other southern cities use routinely.

    Is this site about Seattle Area politics, or is it trying to jump the bandwagon of liberal hatred? You be the judge.

  2. 2

    K spews:

    Can you honestly assert the federal government did a good job here? Let’s for the sake of arguement postulate the local response failed. Did the Fed’s step up? This site is about the issues of the moment. Is there one that is more important? Did the fereral government led by George W. Bush do its job?

  3. 3

    barbara taylor spews:

    People like you, Rename this site to BushHatred, are what make former Republicans, now independents, seriously consider becoming Democrats just to distance ourselves from excuses for humanity like you. These people in New Orleans at every economic level are traumatized and deeply grieving, as most of this nation of decent people are grieving with them. In case you haven’t heard, thousands of real, breathing human beings have died, many needlessly, because some fools in Washington dawdle and brag on themselves while citizens die. And all you can do is ridicule a man’s deep grief, turn it into politics, and refer to crocodile tears?

    Let me tell you, Mr. Know it All, I am a Southerner and I have lived in several major Southern cities, and I have yet to see one that comes close to having the resources and ability to move and house 100,000 people, many elderly and sick, others hospitalized, in a couple of days. The entire national government can’t do it, but you think a city of less than 500,000 can. What do you use for brains?

    You’re worse than a moron. You sound like a completely inhuman, Nazi moron. I wish our country could rid itself of people like you.

  4. 4

    headless lucy spews:

    re 1: Still trying to tell people what to do, eh? You just don’t get it . Your done. It’s over. You are all a bunch of discredited , incompetent windbags. And everyone is trying to figure out the best way to get rid of all of you without disrupting the country too much. This alone proves we’re better patriots than you.

  5. 5

    LiberalDave spews:

    The above comments come from someone who couldn’t give a shit about anyone but themselves, let alone cry from empathy for someone else’s pain. So yeah, it’s not surprising you yell crocodile tears when feigned partisan rants are all you trolls are capable of. Any person with even a shred of real humanity in them can’t help but be emotionally impacted by the video of Broussard. All you care about are you goddamned talking points.

  6. 7

    Richard Pope spews:

    Washington state opens doors to Katrina refugees

    THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

    OLYMPIA, Wash. — The state of Washington is making plans to host up to 2,000 hurricane refugees, Gov. Christine Gregoire announced Sunday.

    “We don’t know at this point how many people will be coming, but we are making plans based on an initial estimate of up to 2,000 people,” Gregoire said in a statement. “We don’t know the exact timing for their arrival, but expect it will be within the next few days.”

    Assisting with the plan to host Hurricane Katrina refugees are state officials, representatives from the city of Seattle, King Pierce and Snohomish Counties, the American Red Cross and many other organizations.

    The state of Washington is working with the Federal Emergency Management Agency to provide assistance including shelter, food and medicine to people displaced by the hurricane.

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....20Refugees

  7. 8

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @1

    This is a liberal blog, jackass! What did you expect here, a Bush lovefest? I think you want to go here for that http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/browse Sheesh.

    @2

    Welcome to Horses Ass! This blog serves as a collection point for right wing trolls like the goose stepping hater who posted @1. When we have enough to fill a bus, we’re gonna drive them to a mental ward for brain transplants so they have a chance to become human.

  8. 9

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Hmmm, looks like K @2 was just released from Goldy’s spam filter. My remarks are for Barbara @3.

  9. 10

    LiberalDave spews:

    What’s missing with the trolls is a heart, Rabbit. A brain transplant would do no good on people who aren’t human.

  10. 11

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @10

    True enough but if their CPU works maybe we can find some simple task for them to do where they can’t kill anybody — like taking out the trash or cleaning toilets.

  11. 12

    Goldy spews:

    “Goldy Loves Terror @1,

    Did you view the clip? Did it not move you in the least?

    Yes, this is site that usually focuses primarily on local politics… and in fact I’ve been sitting on two juicy local political stories for the past few days. But they just seemed so trivial in light of the horror that was unfolding in New Orleans, and the utter incompetence and lack of compassion of the federal relief efforts.

    Sure… I could be like Stefan, and focus laser-like on a failed election contest, dismissed with prejudice by the GOP’s hand picked judge. But then, like Stefan, I would become completely irrelevant. Instead, I choose to focus for a few days on a national tragedy in which perhaps 10,000 or more people are dead in one of our greatest cities.

    But I’ll get back to dumping on local Republicans soon enough, don’t you worry.

  12. 13

    JCH spews:

    Although all New Orleans City and most of LA’s PAID “guvment” pols are Democrat and black, the MSM will ensure not one is held responsible for anything [because they are Democrats and black].

  13. 14

    JCH spews:

    I understand the Kennedy Compound will take in 10,000 New Orleans homeless. This PROVES liberal do more than just talk!! Oh……………wait……………..The Kennedy’s aren’t? Oh………….never mind!!!

  14. 15

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    People! How many disasters does it take before it sinks in that Bush IS a disaster?

    #1 – 9/11 – ignored warnings … 2800 dead
    #2 – Iraq – wrong war, wrong enemy … 1900 dead
    #3 – NOLA – defunded levees, destroyed FEMA … ? dead

    What’s this idiot gonna do next, invade Iran or Venezuela?

  15. 16

    K spews:

    With some luck, out of this tragedy may come a recognition that there is a role for government, and that role must be filled by qualified individuals, not appointed hacks.

    Yes, there is a place for life long government workers.

  16. 17

    For the Clueless spews:

    The kool-aid drunk troll brigade that arrives here armed with the latest talking points – scary.

  17. 18

    K spews:

    Admitedly a minor example, but when the Nisqually quake hit, I was at the King County emergency ops center. I and many others went to the EOC rather than our families. The people there were all long term county employees. We did not work in our assigned areas. We did what was needed, but because of our tenure, we knew other agencies and their key staff. (For you anti-Sims trolls, we were all there before him, and most of us will be there after him) YOU NEED A PROFESSIONAL GOVERNMENT. If you don’t think so, listen to that poor guy and think how you’d feel if it was your mother.

  18. 19

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Hey Goldy, thanks for reminding me — it’s time to supervise Stefan again!

    For those of you who may be new here, Stefan Sharansky (he misspells it “Sharkansky”) of http://www.soundpolitics.com/ thinks Roger Rabbit is Dean Logan.

    I’m not, but since Stefan’s can’t be bothered with anything as trivial as facts, I have no choice but to humor him. Stefan was hired as a poll worker, which means Dean Logan … ahem, me … is his supervisor. Therefore, it’s my duty to check up on him periodically.

    Let’s see. Stefan is bitching tonight about a misspelling in the Oath of Voter printed on the absentee ballot, to wit: “Perjury” is spelled “purjury.”

    Interesting complaint, coming from a guy who can’t spell his own name right. So what do y’wanna do about it, Steffie babe? Throw ‘em all out and spend taxpayer money to reprint them? Ya, I thought so.

    Hey Stefan, how’s your beer … er, legal fundraising going? Do you have $2.75 yet? When are we going to see you at Montlake Ale House? How much have you recovered from King County Records and Elections in public disclosure penalties to date? Are you above $0.00 yet? Hey Stefan, how come you never answer my questions?

    Stefan is scared shitless of a 7-lb. bunny, that’s why!

  19. 20

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Comment on 14

    You’ll never get such a recognition from Mark LeRedneck. He thinks “guvmint” is unremittingly evil and constantly complains about “guvmint” sticking its hand in his pocket. Mark LeRedneck is a champion of self-sufficiency and rugged individualism … you know, the kind of self-sufficient individualism currently being exercised by the armed gangs roaming what’s left of New Orleans looking for people to kill and property to steal.

    I have an idea — let’s take up a collection to buy Mark LeRedneck a one-way bus ticket to NOLA. It’s just the kind of place he’s always dreamed of living in. No government, no rules, no taxes.

  20. 21

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    “Disaster relief? You want disaster relief?” http://politicalhumor.about.co.....finger.htm

    (Disclaimer: The photo is fake — it’s been photoshopped. So what? Right wingers circulate fake photos, too. The difference between liberals and wingers is we tell you the photo is fake, they don’t. Wingers are haters and liars. Liberals are merely haters.)

  21. 22

    markus spews:

    The last I heard, thousands of people were at the convention centre in New Orleans, shipped over from the superdome, but they have bee left alone there, with no food or water, no police or Guard anywhere. Does anybody know if they are still abandoned?

  22. 23

    JC Bob spews:

    What plan did St. Bernard Parish and the State of Louisiana have to evacuate the nursing homes in case of this VERY PREDICTABLE huricane. That is, everyone with half a brain KNEW Katrina would happen some day. In fact, they were lucky that they, the governments of Louisiana, had DAYS of warning in order to evacuate the elderly and infirm.

    Were they expecting the the federal government to be their first responders? FEMA to prepare their evacuation plan?

    As far as I can tell, the governments of Louisiana are right up to third world standards. What an embarrassment!

  23. 24

    JC Bob spews:

    Barbara @ 3

    Why is it that Houston can host 25,000 refugees in the Astrodome with food, water, toilets, cots and SHOWERS! And New Orleans had made NO similar preparations to use the Superdome.

    The morons are people like you who want to make excuses for the GROSS INCOMPETENCE of the City of New Orleans and the State of Louisiana. And I am not sure that the governments in Mississippi and Alabama are very far behind.

    It appears that the old saying that half of Louisiana is covered in water and the other half in graft and corruption are more true than not.

  24. 25

    Another TJ spews:

    Why is it that Houston can host 25,000 refugees in the Astrodome with food, water, toilets, cots and SHOWERS! And New Orleans had made NO similar preparations to use the Superdome.

    I’m goin’ out on a limb here… Maybe it was because the hurricane knocked out power and water to the Superdome, but Houston was affected somewhat less harshly by the storm?

    Jus’ guessin’.

  25. 26

    righton spews:

    Goldy, what about all the cops who wallked off the job. Pretty hard to fashion a plan when the locals tasked w/ public safety go AWOL.

    Its a party town, proved that they live for today, not for tomorrow..

  26. 27

    Baynative spews:

    If my mother called me everyday to say she was drowning, I’d have gotten a bass boat somewhere.
    … Say, how did she call, anyway? I thought all the power disabled phone systems and cell phone towers, as well.

    …Say, who else was in this nursing home? Did they all die? After holding on for four days, how did they drown on the fifthe day when the waters were receeding?

    This is just too fishy. I know this has been a horrible experience for all involved and I’ve made considerable contributiions to organizations I trust to help. But, this sounds like a Larry King story all the way and if it is disproven, we will never hear it getting this type of coverage.

  27. 28

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    This asshole let his own mother drown and now it’s somebody else’s fault? WTF? Why didn’t he go get his own mother? Why didn’t he put her in his car and take her someplace before it hit? What an asshole.

  28. 29

    klake spews:

    I’m goin’ out on a limb here… Maybe it was because the hurricane knocked out power and water to the Superdome, but Houston was affected somewhat less harshly by the storm?

    Jus’ guessin’.

    Comment by Another TJ— 9/5/05 @ 7:10 am

    THEY THE DEMO’S COULDN’T FIND THE SWITCH TO TURN ON THE EMERGENCY GENERATORS. MAYBE A CITY CITY WORKER, GOVERMENT WORKER, NO A SCHOOL TEACHER, I KNOW IT’S DR E.

  29. 32

    JCH spews:

    I understand Teddy “oldsmobile” Kennedy is offering to drive a few “selected” New Orleans homeless around in his limo for a few hours. Not out of town, but just around town. [hehe]

  30. 33

    zip spews:

    Lefties

    The posts above and earlier are typical of how “your ilk” operates and I am getting sick of it especially when these despicable tactics are applied to such a tragedy as this.

    “Bush defunded the levee repairs” thereby causing or contributing to the breaches: “Trolls” have posted NYTimes and WA Post article links debunking this daily on the comment threads. But sickos like Roger keep bringing it back up AS IF IT IS A FACT! It’s a god damn lie and you freaks know it.

    Lefties have again reverted to the “anybody who posts comments disagreeable to me is a nazi, etc.” mode. When will you losers wake up and get a life? Seriously tell me there are “nazis” in our midst you ….ing idiots!

    You losers can rant all you want about your stupid levee repair funding theories. The truth about who screwed up, when and how this affected the tragedy will eventually come out.

  31. 34

    headless lucy spews:

    The trolls are enjoying themselves pushing peoples buttons. How small and irrelevant they are. Remember what Mr. Cynical called hiself after the Republican failure to unseat a legally elected governor? MR. IRRELEVANT!

    Foreshadowing of an unconscious but still prescient nature.

  32. 35

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Lucy – If your mama called you and said she was drowning, would you go get her? Or would you let her die and then try to blame someone else?

  33. 37

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Mark@33–
    Lucy is tryin’ hard to morph hersef into her brothers and sisters from the “Souf”. Lucy should be busy bringing in families to stay with her like my Christian friends are doing….as opposed to blogging. It’s easier for lucy to rant like a lunatic than to actually do something of value.

  34. 38

    For the Clueless spews:

    Zip – Don’t you have anything better to do on labor day weekend? Relax. Enjoy life a little.

    This blog isn’t worth popping a vein, that is if you really believe the truth is going to come out anyway.

  35. 39

    Puddybud spews:

    Cynical: Loocy is a he. Did you ferget dat?

    Clueless: I wait for the truth too. If it wuz my momma, dammit I would be there breaking down the nursing home doors to get her. That guy made me sick. You never abandon momma, NEVER, you milktoast lefties. Dammit that guy isn’t worth the clothes he wears.

    Mr Loocy: What you gonna say if the blame falls on the city and state for being unprepared? U R A Dipshit! And you teach chirren how to wrestle? Still waiting for that schooling talk!

    If Goldy had a heart he would be posting the correct help information instead of leading the Blame Bush mantra. Liberal Blogosphere for Hurricane Relief is the last place I would drop a dime! Oh that’s right placing Christian Charities is a no-no because David Goldstein placing anything Christian is a no-no to the likes of half his audience.

    BTW Richard Pope: You seem to be connected, so I ask this of you. The wife and family are looking to house a needy NO family. Do you know how we can screen them to accept a needy family get back on their feet? We have cancelled our European Christmas vacation to go down for two weeks to volunteer in the rebuilding effort. You see we are Christians. Do unto others as we would have them do unto you. We would rather send the money to NO than spend it on ourselves with people hurting there. How about some lefties putting their muscles and $$$ where their keyboards are? Or spending their own money instead of tiefing someone elses? Naah, you all are just Bush haters hiding behind a keyboard. You lefties are FULL OF SHIT! There Dr. E. CAPITALS just for you.

    Cynical: Do you think bill comprehends the significance of capitals yet?

  36. 40

    Topher spews:

    The continual insistence of making everything ideological/political by the righties is sick. The point is that there was a failure of response here, at every level. Obviously, something did not work.

    I have been to New Orleans. It is a dirt poor place. The infrastructure is in bad shape, the schools are falling apart, but I guess the taxes are low. Louisiana as a whole does not have a lot of money. This is probably part of the problem here.

    But to defend the Federal response by simply blaming the local and state officials is asinine. No one did a good job here. This is about people’s lives, not partisan politics.

  37. 41

    Puddybud spews:

    Oh and Goldy, Barbara Taylor, Liberal Dave, Dr E., Another TJ, and all you worthless lefties who whine about the Federal Response knowing that it takes up to 72 hours to mobilize: Fuck You! For those lefties who have send $100 or more I commend you no FU to you. Do it again, we just did!

    TJ: Houston is prepared for an emergency. NO was not. So the sheriff got the prisoners out. Good for him. If they could swim across the water why didn’t jackass go and get his mother? What, his suit would get wet? He too high and mighty in his job!

  38. 42

    fire_one spews:

    ANOTHER photo op for the Chimpanzee in Chief. In this day and age of instant communications, this is OUTRAGEOUS! Next thing you know, he will be breaking out the MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner… How did we end up with a MORON for a president?

  39. 44

    fire_one spews:

    LC – If I WANT pictures of monkeys, I can go to the zoo… In the meantime, people are STILL waiting for rescue in NO!

  40. 45

    Puddybud spews:

    LC: Well that’s a tough one. Years ago we went to Jazz Festival and had a great time in NO. The wife and I looked at each other and said “wow there goes memories”. You see, taking pictures for pictures sake may not be the best thing to do. I don’t plan to do photo- ops. But so our friends can comprehend the damage, we will take some. If Goldy has a link we may post those without ourselves in it for anonymity of course.

  41. 46

    Puddybud spews:

    So fire_one, so the black people in NO are monkeys? As Spock said when he brain was reattached: “Good, Yes, Good” You proved your humanity calling the people monkeys. Just as I thought; liberals think poor blacks are monkeys.

  42. 47

    fire_one spews:

    Pud – Nice spin pud. You KNOW I was talking about your Chimpanzee in Chief (see 37)…. Another Bushco moron.

  43. 48

    Mr. X spews:

    MTR-

    15 feet of water in the streets, and you expect someone to go swimming through the cholera soup to do a rescue job that our government failed? How simplistic and stupid can you get? Oh, wait, that’s right, you’re you – so there is evidently no limit on how pathetic, hateful, and ill-informed you are (of course if someone took your advice and commandeered a boat to effect the resuce, you’d have him shot on sight – or is that just the black folks?)

    Once again – one thousand times over – FUCK YOU. I’d love to meet up with you and beat a little compassionate conservatism into you – name a place and time.

  44. 49

    Puddybud spews:

    Uhhh, no fire_one you said monkeys. The President is a singular person. Good try spinning out of it though!!! What are YOU doing in the relief effort besides wasting pixels criticizing? Are you another LEFTIST PINHEAD – FULL OF SHIT? Or, are you a compassionate human being placing $$$ at charity doorsteps, funding needed help?

  45. 51

    fire_one spews:

    PuddyFud – Nice try asshat. As to what I am doing, well at least I am not getting in the way like the Chiimpanzee in Chief.

  46. 52

    Puddybud spews:

    RWB: Full of hate? Naah, only using the HA blog to provide a mirror, reflecting that which is being dished by your side.

    Self_inflicted_wound@45: You still haven’t answered the question? What are you doing to assist in the relief effort BESIDES wasting pixels writing hatred? I thought asshat was for MTR? But if you feel compelled to call me that I suppose LEFTIST PINHEAD works for you, right moonbat donk?

  47. 53

    fire_one spews:

    DuddyMud – I have already donated. But I know, as a good RepubliCon, you have done NOTHING! Just like the Chimpanzee in Chief!

  48. 54

    For the Clueless spews:

    Puddy – you remind me of the guy on death row who apologized to all the people he hurt. He signed all his letters to the family members of his victim “With Respect”.

    He was so certain, so certain that he had made his ammends and God was going to let him into heaven after he was executed. I’ve never seen such conviction in my life.

    You’re going to have to do a lot more than cancel your European vacation and impose your miserable company upon a needy NOLA family.

    Example: in a jolly moment you can relate to the needy family the gay sex fantasy you had about me and rujax.

  49. 55

    Puddybud spews:

    Self_inflicted_wound@45: May I suggest you send you money here to:

    http://www.adra.org/site/PageServer At least I know what the administration costs are which are almost nil because the salaries come out of the World church’s general funds, not disaster relief funds. That’s why our church was one of the first last winter allowed in a Muslim area in Banda Aceh, Indonesia. We are an approved US Charity and relief organization.

    This is my church’s organization. We support this as I posted earlier by continual contributions. This is one of our church’s main outreaches to humanity. So fire up the wallet and stop the hatred fire_one.

  50. 57

    Puddybud spews:

    Clueless: All I have to do is point them to this blog for full effect! WHat are YOU doing except writing hatred wasting pixels?

    I am not doing this for any rewards. That’s the problem with liberals, you do it for a reward. Everything is measured by the reward factor. Christians do it because the Holy Spirit leads them! Why don’t you read Matthew 25:31-46 stoopid idiot? Yeah, blow off the dust from the Bible momma gave you long ago and crack the Good Book open. You play the second part from verses 41-46. Read what Jesus says. Or does the words of Jesus burn your satan filled soul?

  51. 58

    Puddybud spews:

    Nazi – There you go again Self_inflicted_wound@50: implementing epithets that have no meaning. You are the chief LEFTIST PINHEAD amongst your peers of LEFTIST PINHEADS. You wasted pixels calling the NO people monkeys and then tried to wiggle out of it. If you meant the CiC then why not use a singular? Since he would be down in NO with many black people you are equating him and the other blacks as monkeys. Thanks for proving it to the world.

    Goldy are you going to post my other response?

  52. 59

    For the Clueless spews:

    You make me laugh, Puddy.

    You come here of all places to brag about what a great mind you have and what a God-fearing soul you are. I think you’ve got a really bad case of one of the seven deadlies. Guess which one.

    You don’t know what I or anyone has else has done here beyond what we’ve written here. And you know what?

    I won’t waste my pixels telling you because you’re not worth it.

  53. 60

    fire_one spews:

    To get back to my point. Anytime the CinC goes to a disaster area, all he does is interrupt important work. Please, someone, tell your trained chimp to stay home. And tell him we don’t want to see the MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner!

  54. 61

    Puddybud spews:

    clueless: Prove what you are doing or STFU. You LEFTIST PINHEADS want to open other people’s wallets but you can’t open yours. All fluff and no stuff. That’s you clueless. All hatred and no love. That’s you clueless. All venom and no antidote. That’s you clueless. You are your karma, remember? I’ll bet you that with a 6:1 ratio of LEFTIST PINHEADS to righty thinkers we have donated more to disaster relief than your side has.

    I write what I do so I can PROVE that you are the real ass you are. You accuse us Christians of being without heart, when it’s your side that is heartless. You all waste pixels about the slowness of federal response, ignoring the lack of NO or LA response and their ill prepared and implemented disaster plan. Then when someone calls you on it you go into epithet mode or try to say I’m disingenuous! Wrong oh stoopid one. Your are what you kiss and you all kiss the liberal ass!

    Fire_one: Tune changing now? You said dem peepels is moneys.

  55. 62

    Donnageddon spews:

    @1 “Rename this site to BushHatred.org”

    You act as if hating evil is a bad thing.

  56. 63

    Donnageddon spews:

    PuddyBud @ 55 How would you know how much ANYONE has given to relief organizations?

    You are not the judge, and you are not a christian. You are just a clueless asshole.

  57. 64

    Puddybud spews:

    Dondon @57: Glad you woke up from your stupor and joined the fray. Don’t call me what we think of clueless. He da asshole here! Who said I was judging anyone? Your side is the one who judges us Christians. You like to lump us with Falwell and Robertson. They don’t represent me. When the mirror is flashed your way, the pain of illumination hurts huh, dondon. A Christian is supposed to call stoopidy as it happens as Christ did. You can’t fathom that being an athiest!!!

  58. 65

    potshot spews:

    So, you all are heading down to Rainier Valley and Tukwila today to knock on a door and trade houses with someone, right? After all, you want equality in disaster deaths, so you will do your part, right?

    Sure send a paltry sum to a charity, watch the concert, and you can feel good for doing everything you could to help.

  59. 66

    For the Clueless spews:

    58 – You’re splitting my sides again Pud.

    You call your gay sex fantasies and other hateful, paranoid ravings following Christ’s example?

    Get away from HA.org. It should be obvious that this place is not good for you. Do some praying or something. Read the Good Book. Spend some time with your family. Help the needy.

    Take your meds, whatever.

  60. 67

    Puddybud spews:

    Again clueless, you deflect and obscure. If you remember what I said about you and rujax, you two were referring to something similar. What I do vs. Christ did has no bearing on this argument. I am not Him and only your side tries to make the “perfect” association. I ask Him and His Spirit to guide me. What guides a lefty besides full hatred of Bush? I’d say nothing else!

    I equate HAs to the friends of Bob in the enzyte of commercials. We righties are Bob and you lefties look at what you are lacking.

  61. 68

    Donnageddon spews:

    PuddyBud, did Christ’s spirit guide you to support this horrendous war in Iraq? If so, I think you are listening to an entirely different spirit than Christ’s.

  62. 69

    JC Bob spews:

    Donnageddon @ 62

    Just cannot get over that Saddam will not be able to gas another Kurd city again, can you.

    You appear to abide by an immoral philosophy like Pacificism. Pacificism is immoral because it refuses to stand up to evil. You know, like Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Saddam.

  63. 70

    Dr. E spews:

    pudd @ 41

    “Oh and Goldy, Barbara Taylor, Liberal Dave, Dr E., Another TJ, and all you worthless lefties who whine about the Federal Response knowing that it takes up to 72 hours to mobilize: [expletive deleted]“

    Gosh, Pudd, where did I “whine” about that, or even write specifically about it? Maybe you’re just generalizing…

  64. 71

    HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS spews:

    The Culture of Blame—on assigning blame for Hurricane Katrina:

    “Let me make this clear: Everything which has happened as the result of Hurricane Katrina is my fault.

    Mine.
    Alone.
    No one else’s.
    Stop wasting energy pointing fingers and put your hands to work helping out.
    It was me.
    Got it?

    I was a United States Senator from Louisiana in 2001 when the levee at Lake Pontchartrain was declared unsafe and I didn’t have enough clout with my Senatorial brethren to get sufficient money appropriated to fix it. It was my fault.

    Oh.
    I almost forgot.

    I was the Commander-in-Chief of all United States Armed Forces in the 1960s which includes the Corps of Engineers. The cost-benefit analysis?
    My fault.

    It is my fault that, as the Governor of Louisiana, I didn’t foresee the need to have enough Louisiana National Guard troops—the vast majority of whom are NOT currently in Iraq, or Afghanistan or, for that matter, Indiana—pre-positioned and ready to preserve order. I, frankly, forgot that there is a portion of the population which will steal anything from anyone given any opportunity and then will blame it on me because I didn’t—in spite of ample warnings by sociologists from large Eastern Universities—foresee the need to have 27″ flat-screen television sets available to every family in the New Orleans city limits as soon as the electricity went out.
    That one WAS my bad.

    It is my fault that, as Mayor of New Orleans, I was boogying down Bourbon Street the night before the hurricane hit rather than being where I should have been—on the roof of the Superdome pounding in extra nails to hold the roof on.

    As the architect of the Superdome, it was my fault for claiming
    that the Dome could survive 200 mile-per-hour winds. It couldn’t
    even handle a relatively gentle 160 mile-per-hour zephyr.
    Strap me to my drafting table and set me adrift.

    Global warming? My fault. Despite the fact that nearly every serious climatologist in America has stated over and over again that there is no clear evidence tying human-generated greenhouse gasses to global warming, and even if there were, there is no evidence tying global warming to hurricanes in the Atlantic basin, I was opposed to the Kyoto treaty and so it is my fault.

    It is also my fault that during the administration of Bill Clinton the U.S. Senate rejected the terms of the Kyoto protocols by a vote of 95-0.
    That would be zero, zilch, nada, nil, bupkis.

    As the Grand Poohbah in Charge of all TV Coverage, it is my fault that there is constant video of looters and almost none of humanitarian activities. I am the person who issued the statement: ‘No more rescue footage UNLESS the person rescued complains about how long they had to wait or, if he shoots at the rescuers.’

    And, finally, as Chairman of the National Association of Gasoline Producers it is my fault that I had the bad judgment to put so much of my drilling, refining and transportation assets in a hurricane-prone area like the Caribbean basin. What…was…I…thinking? If I could re-do that whole thing, I would have put all that equipment in Lake Erie and Lake Michigan. There may not be any oil there, but hurricanes are very rare.

    So.
    There you have it.
    Everything that has happened is my fault.

    Now.
    Shut up and help.” —Rich Galen, “The Federalist Patriot (FederalistPatriot.US)”

  65. 72

    For the Clueless spews:

    I equate HAs to the friends of Bob in the enzyte of commercials. We righties are Bob and you lefties look at what you are lacking.

    Wow I’m floored Pudster. That’s as stirring a vision as, oh say, a shining city on a hill or something!

    You see far, you see far…

  66. 74

    For the Clueless spews:

    Some medical professionals advise against taking Enzyte, saying that it can lead to damage.

    Brain damage most likely.

  67. 75

    Puddybud spews:

    ProudAss: I brought this up earlier and the HA lefties ignored it then.

    Clueless@72: What are you gibberishing about? Your point? More superior lefty thought?

    Dr E. – Yes it was due to association. Just about everyone on this thread.

  68. 76

    HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS spews:

    Find a mirror for that finger of blame!
    “200 buses with a capacity of about 60 people per bus means some 12,000 people could have been ferried away from the Superdome to Houston in about every 15 hours.” -Comment by HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS— 9/5/05 @ 1:50 pm

    Mayor: Katrina Death Toll May Hit 10,000

    One week after Hurricane Katrina devastated the region, miles-long lines of vehicles crawled into Jefferson Parish on Monday as residents were allowed to return to salvage what was left of their homes. New Orleans’ mayor warned that 10,000 people may have died.

  69. 77

    spews:

    puddy @ 41
    The feds need 72 hours to respond, huh? Since they were called to respond on August 26th, that means they should have been there about…mmmm..August 29th, right?

    When did they get there?

    JC Bob @ 69
    If your insinuation is that taking out Saddam prevented him from gassing another Kurd city (something he hadn’t done in over a decade, and had no materials to do it with)–I don’t suppose you remember that Saddam WASN’T IN CONTROL of the Kurd cities when we invaded?

    Ass @ 71
    The LA NG was mobilized 7AM 8/29.

  70. 78

    spews:

    and Ass @ 76
    were those remote control busses? Or were you on the ground, ready to drive them? Got a bus driving license, by chance? And were you ready to blow up the water wings to float them down the road?

  71. 80

    HowCanYouBePROUDtobeAnASS spews:

    They were sitting there, pretty as can be, when the Hurricane warnings were issued and the roads unflooded

    Bus license??? – are you out of your mind – I would be willing to bet not one single victim would have given a rats ass if a courageous 12yr old was willing to drive those damned buses they let drown out of there.

    Stop making excuses for sloppy management.

  72. 83

    Mr. X spews:

    Proud to be an Asshole

    How bout the kid who commandeered a bus, got people out, drove all the way to the Astrodome, and got arrested for trouble?

    Just keep right on changing the subject, dipfuck. Bush and FEMA screwed the pooch, and all of your trolling, lies, and misdirection can’t change that fact or the fact that millions of Americans now see Shrub for the clueless spoiled empty suit fratboy he is.

    You bet I hate Bush, and I hate fuckers like you for apologizing for him. Go fuck yourself (copyright 2004 Dick “Still on Vacation” Cheney).

  73. 84

    Mr. X spews:

    …oops, that should have said “got arrested for his trouble”

    The go fuck yourself still stands, though!

  74. 85

    Another TJ spews:

    How bout the kid who commandeered a bus, got people out, drove all the way to the Astrodome, and got arrested for trouble?

    Actually, I don’t think they arrested him; they just threatened to do it. I may be mistaken, but I think his jeopardy ended when the story hit the wires and people saw how heroically he had behaved. Anyone who charges that kid with a crime will be in a world of political trouble.

    But your larger point is a fair one. President Bush announced a “no tolerance” policy with respect to “looting.” Scott McClellan was asked if any provision was made for people taking food and water to avoid dying, and McClellan coldly said they should wait for the authorized relief supplies to arrive. People who took the initiative in surviving, when that meant stealing, ran a risk of prosecution or worse (an overzealous guardsman, for instance – unlikely, but possible).

  75. 86

    Another TJ spews:

    I just noticed this one:

    Oh and Goldy, Barbara Taylor, Liberal Dave, Dr E., Another TJ, and all you worthless lefties who whine about the Federal Response knowing that it takes up to 72 hours to mobilize: Fuck You! For those lefties who have send $100 or more I commend you no FU to you. Do it again, we just did!

    TJ: Houston is prepared for an emergency. NO was not. So the sheriff got the prisoners out. Good for him. If they could swim across the water why didn’t jackass go and get his mother? What, his suit would get wet? He too high and mighty in his job!

    Comment by Puddybud— 9/5/05 @ 10:05 am

    Wow. Somebody needs a hug.

  76. 87

    Donnageddon spews:

    JC Bob @ 69 “Just cannot get over that Saddam will not be able to gas another Kurd city again, can you.”

    No, in fact Saddam was not going to be gassing anyone ever again. He was in a box surrounded by inspectors, and unless RUMSFIELD SOLD him more gas, he wasn’t getting any.

    “You appear to abide by an immoral philosophy like Pacificism. Pacificism is immoral because it refuses to stand up to evil. You know, like Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Saddam.”

    Just try to take my freedom away, JC Bob, and you will quickly find out how pacifist I am.

  77. 88

    Baynative spews:

    New York City : UNPLANNED unnatural disaster, responsible Mayor and Chief of Police take charge. Order is maintained, responsible life saveing measures are implemented, civility is stabilized.

    New Orleans: an EXPECTED and ANTICIPATED natural, seasonal storm hits after 4 days of warnings and offers of help extended from the White House, irresponsible Mayor Nagil ignores evacuation plan and leaves town allowing 571 city owned busses to sit on low ground waiting for the flood. The Governor stays away and cries on national TV, civility breaks down, anarchy rules, people die needlessly. Now the irresponsible people who let their community down are quick to issue false allegations in every direction.

    To compound matters an incompetent FEMA director turns multiple uncoordinated agencies loose with no central direction and relief is stalled in chaos.

    Bush’s fault? Not quite. But, hopefully a lot of people are get their their due and the rest of us will learn some valuable lessons.

  78. 89

    Donnageddon spews:

    And JC Bob, it is head in the sand attitudes like yours that allows Hitler, Stalin, and Mao to take control.

    You are a terrorist against America and all it has stood for.

  79. 90

    Another TJ spews:

    You appear to abide by an immoral philosophy like Pacificism.

    Pacificism? Does that have anything to do with Hawaii? If it does, count me in!

  80. 92

    spews:

    baynative @ 89
    “offers of help extended from the White House”

    Total, utter, 100% and complete bullshit. Take that ridiculous crap somewhere else.

  81. 93

    Baynative spews:

    Torridjoe-
    If you can’t accept the truth and deal with it, you should stay in the MTV chat room where you don’t have to engage adults.

  82. 94

    Mr. X spews:

    …actually, pacifism has more to do with Jesus than the South Seas, but the warmongering “Christians” on this board apparently missed that whole crazy nonviolent New Testament thing, anyway…

  83. 95

    Another TJ spews:

    …actually, pacifism has more to do with Jesus than the South Seas, but the warmongering “Christians” on this board apparently missed that whole crazy nonviolent New Testament thing, anyway…

    That’s similar to a point I’ve made many times in private. It seems to me that many right-wing Christians have a very twisted view of Christ. They seem to see only Christ at his angriest – throwing the money-changers from the temple – while disregarding much of the rest of the New Testament, which tends to focus on that crazy liberal stuff like clothing the naked, feeding the hungry, sheltering the homeless, etc.

    It really is too bad there are so many “cafeteria Christians” on this board and in right-wing politics generally.

  84. 96

    spews:

    bay @ 92
    there’s nothing to accept. It’s a lie. Show me the “offer extended to help,” that came before the REQUEST for help from the state of LA on August 26th. The feds stayed home until several days later, so quit trying to pass off bullshit here. We’re too smart for it.

  85. 97

    Puddybud spews:

    Gee everyone, where was Senator Landrieu when this was said by the NO Mayor: July 24th 2005, the mayor of NO says to potential flood victims you are on your own:

    rawstory.com/news/2005/July_2005_article_reveals_Red_Cross_told_poor_Youre_on_your_o_0902.html

  86. 98

    Baynative spews:

    torrid joe Re: 96

    I’ll give ya credit on that. I see a formal request was made on the 26th prior to the executive order being issued on the 27th. ( http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=18447 )

    But, that seems to compound the fatal inaction of the Governor and Mayor in not following their own emergency action plan. FEMA, not a first responder as much as a remediation force, that is the local government’s responsibility. FEMA is not expected to send people in harm’s way to risk their lives battling the elements and those who refuse to obey evac orders or those who were stranded by the Mayor’s incompetence in not using the 571 busses at his disposal to evacuate people. That incompetence, BTW, has now resulted in those busses being ruined in the flood and needing to be rebuilt or replaced.

    Like I said; I hope the sniping subsides at some point soon and valuable lessons can be learned beyond trying to “blame somebody”.

  87. 99

    Baynative spews:

    torridjoe – you may be interested in a factual note that:

    The STATE declared the emergency and ASKED the Feds for $9.9 million in emergency aid. The STATE has been in charge, and still is in charge as of right now. Here is the link for the info from the Washington Post’s Sunday Sept 4 issue. As always with the Post the real news is all in the last 5 paragraphs

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01680.html

  88. 100

    Donnageddon spews:

    PuddyBud, far be it from me to point out the obvious, but that article is rather short, and you could have asctually read it before you posted, but:

    THAT WAS THE RED CROSS DIRECTOR WHO SAID THEY WERE ON THEIR OWN NOT THE MAYOR YOU MORON!!

  89. 101

    spews:

    bay @ 98
    why are you making my point for me? They asked for help, it didn’t come. Why did the feds wait? Why did they block all kinds of efforts to help?

  90. 102

    Baynative spews:

    joe –

    “Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal officials tried to wrest authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco (D). Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the state’s emergency operations center said Saturday.

    The administration sought unified control over all local police and state National Guard units reporting to the governor. Louisiana officials rejected the request after talks throughout the night, concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal declaration of martial law. Some officials in the state suspected a political motive behind the request. “Quite frankly, if they’d been able to pull off taking it away from the locals, they then could have blamed everything on the locals,” said the source, who does not have the authority to speak publicly.”

    In other words; the Governor chose to play politics with her own constituents for fear of being shown in an unfavorable light – which is how it’s ended up anyway.

  91. 103

    Donnageddon spews:

    It just gives me the hives the way the Neo-Con zombies try to spin even the death of thousands and thge destruction of a city.

    TPuddyBud already spouted a complete lie about the Mayor of NO, and now Baynative places his spin in bold.

    You fucking scumbag, evil hearted vampire. NoTHING in that story supports your cbolded conclusion. You have so much disaregard for human life you would lie for the satanic Bush administration so you don’t have to come to the realization how godamned wrong you have been for the last 5 years.

    Fuck you you Rove wannabe… your shit ain’t fooling no one!

  92. 104

    Puddybud spews:

    Donk****don: The mayor was in the room when this was said last July. The mayor’s own disaster plan says nothing is done without his approval. The mayor’s own disaster plan says he coordinates all activities. So you don’t think he approved that message? Nice try donk****don. UBADF just like loocy and others. I’d say it be guilt by association just like you donks like to hoist on GWB when one of his cabinet members says something untoward to you. Now that I implement donk thought back on donks they don’t like it.

    I have no regard for life? What say you donk****don? Visit http://www.openyourhome.com and place a family in your apartment!

  93. 105

    Puddybud spews:

    BTW I hope you be talking to baynative about a rove wannabe. I want to be just like Howard Dean. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!

  94. 107

    Puddybud spews:

    I think Mary Landrieu should first start her punching of the mayor and the governor. See my post #169 in Who’s in charge of FEMA thread. Looks like both are incompetent.

  95. 108

    PacMan spews:

    And I’ll play Jesse Jackson? No, I’ll play Julian Bond? No, I’ll play Al Sharpton? No, I’ll play John Lewis? Maybe Kweisi MFume? At least Kweisi was trying to reach out to President Bush and Julian Bond fired him. No, none are worth their weight in junk!

  96. 109

    Baynative spews:

    Donnageddon # 103:

    So BOLD bothers you…but the truth from an AP Times=Picayune story is irrelevant?