Mike Webb, 1955-2007, RIP

With the discovery of Mike Webb’s badly decomposed body today, the mystery surrounding the former 710-KIRO host only deepens. His body was found under a tarp, stuffed in the crawl space of his Seattle home, weeks after being reported missing. The King County Medical Examiner’s office has determined that Webb died of multiple stab wounds. The talk-radio blog Blatherwatch is providing ongoing coverage.

I introduce each hour of my weekend show, proudly announcing that I am “bringing liberal political talk back to Newsradio 710-KIRO.” I always emphasize the word “back,” and in doing so, I’m always referring to Mike Webb, who sat in front of that very same microphone, infuriating local conservatives for nearly a decade.

But while I’m proud to carry on Webb’s legacy of speaking truth to power, I must confess that I rarely listened to his show. So Saturday night during the 8PM hour of my show, I’ll play a few clips of Webb at work, and unable to present a fitting tribute of my own, I’ll ask his friends and fans to call in with their own remembrances of Webb and his radio career.

Comments

  1. 1

    FricknFrack, Seattle spews:

    That sounds like a nice touch. Personally, I never listened to radio talk myself so I never heard his show either. But will be tuning in tomorrow night.

    Sorry to hear of this awful situation! Sounds like a lot of bad things were spinning out of control in his vicinity.

  2. 2

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    MIKE WEBB CERTAINLY HAD HIS FAULTS AND MADE SOME BAD MISTAKES BUT NO WAY DID HE DESERVE THIS.

    I’LL REMEMBER THE GOOD HE DID. MAY HE REST IN PEACE.

  3. 3

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    If Mike’s death came about through his efforts to help someone through the hell of addiction recovery, as some have speculated, then the situation is even sadder. That he died expressing some of the better parts of his personality is tragic.
    This is a mystery that must be unravelled.

  4. 4

    Mark spews:

    Talk about a miserable, sad, angry, bitter, pathetic individual. Not to mention a convicted fraud. I wish I could say I am saddened, but I almost half expected this.

  5. 5

    pbj spews:

    Clownstein says:

    I must confess that I rarely listened to his show.

    And who says we don’t have anything in common.

  6. 6

    ArtFart spews:

    4. Mark, maybe someone will say things like that over your rotting corpse some day.

    In the meantime, fuck you.

  7. 7

    Kitty spews:

    I oftened listened to Mike Webb’s show when he was on Kiro. I am a straight, single female. In his early days, he infuriated me. Later, I found myself enjoying his nightly antics. He had a hard last few years with his conviction, the loss of his partner and the lost of his beloved dog. I lost track of Mike after he got fired from Kiro. I was shocked and saddened to hear of his demise. We all make mistakes. Whether or not you agree with his lifestyle or his politics, no one deserves to die like that. For those of you without a kind word to say….Have a heart, people. I can only hope your own demise is more sanitized.

  8. 8

    Mark spews:

    ArtFart says:

    4. Mark, maybe someone will say things like that over your rotting corpse some day.

    In the meantime, fuck you.

    Well, I don’t walk around pissed off at the world like Webb did and I sure as hell have not and would not ever commit insurance fraud. Am I not allowed to point this out?

    In the mean time, FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

  9. 9

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    “The King County Medical Examiner’s office has determined that Webb died of multiple stab wounds.”

    An obvious suicide. There’s a liberal for you — can’t even kill himself with one knife thrust! And those guys pussies think they’ll kick our butts in a civil war when we overthrow the government? ha! ha! ha! Bring it on, Rabbit! Bring it on! — press release from Wingnut Central

  10. 10

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I must say, the perp isn’t real smart. Dumping the body in a crawl space isn’t exactly the best way to make someone permanently disappear. And crawling around under there, pulling a plastic tarp over the body, leaves dozens of traces of forensic evidence. You could shine a UV light on the trail of DNA the killer left and follow it all the way to his trailer park! Where you’ll find the victim’s computers in the perp’s trailer. This is a GOP job for sure. Nobody else would bungle it like this.

  11. 11

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    Talk about a miserable, sad, angry, bitter, pathetic individual.

    YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT NOBODY BUT YOURSELF HERE MARK.

    YOU’VE COME HERE WITH A CHIP ON SHOULDER AND YOU’VE HAD YOUR ASS HANDED TO YOU.

    MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE STAYED OVER AT (UN)SP.

  12. 12

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @8 “Well, I don’t walk around pissed off at the world like Webb did …”

    I’m sure it’s totally lost on you that most of what we liberals post on this blog is motivated by the fact you and your winger buddies do walk around pissed off at the world and we’re fed up with your uncivilized behavior.

  13. 14

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Did anyone besides me pick up on the fact ALL the computers are missing from Webb’s house? Now what’s a better theory here, that this murder has something to do with drugs, or something to do with Webb’s opinions and what he wrote on internet blogs?

    Memo to Webb’s Killer: In case your interested, my burrow is the hole 7 paces from the big tree in Green Lake Park. If you decide to visit me, bring a gun! So I can claim self-defense.

  14. 16

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Roger Rabbit Poll

    Who would most likely steal Mike Webb’s computers?

    [ ] 1. A druggie looking for property to fence for quick cash
    [ ] 2. An Al Qaeda terrorist
    [ ] 3. A souvenir-hunting fan of Mike Webb
    [ ] 4. Someone from one of the numerous federal agencies that might consider Webb a subversive (your choice of: Homeland Security, TSA, FBI, NSA, CIA, RNC, etc.).
    [ ] 5. One of Karl Rove’s minions

  15. 20

    Mark spews:

    Roger Rabbit says:

    @8 “Well, I don’t walk around pissed off at the world like Webb did …”

    You forgot to finish the sentence, so allow me to do it for you. “and I sure as hell have not and would not ever commit insurance fraud”

    Funny how you all but ignore the fact that he was a convicted criminal.

  16. 22

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    21 – THE POSTER CHILD FOR THE RIGHT WING.

    LADIES AND GENTLEMEN – IT’S TYPICALNAZI.

  17. 23

    spews:

    A Fre9ind Over the Radio

    Webb was confrontational and kind to those in need.
    He hated the radical right and dissed Bush form the start
    Yet he was never sure he found a Dem to like either
    He could riff on rock like no one I have ever heard.

    Oh yeh, he was gay and had lost his aprtner a dozen or so years ago

    And legues brighter and funnier than what ever the hell passes for talk on a lot of KIRO today.

    And the world is a lonelier place now.
    I miss him.

  18. 24

    franco spews:

    KIRO has gone so downhill after they fired webb…except of course for goldy. really i dont like any of the hosts now..maybe reagan and dori’s ok when he talks about fun things.
    i was reg listener to mike webb and was pissed when they bagged him without a trial

  19. 25

    franco spews:

    KIRO has gone so downhill after they fired webb…except of course for goldy. really i dont like any of the hosts now..maybe reagan and dori’s ok when he talks about fun things.
    i was reg listener to mike webb and was pissed when they bagged him without a trial

  20. 26

    spike spews:

    It seems to me that one of the oddities of Mike’s program was that it was on at night, when most working people weren’t able to listen except in odd moments. Yet, in spite of people saying they didn’t listen to him, it seems to me that most people I knew caught his show whenever they could. Webb was not just an outspoken liberal in a liberal city awash with right wing talk, he was a liberal who said the things most of us cover up with “politeness.” What a pleasure it was to hear him lay it on the line. On top of it all, he was as smart as a whip and funny enough to make you laugh outloud. We don’t have anyone now as quick as he was. And when he wanted a light hour on rock music or some other hobby horse, the time was just as entrancing. He and Erin Hart made listening to KIRO worth the time. Their double loss hasn’t been recouped; his death is a tragedy, as is his troubled ending to his life. We still keep KIRO around for Dave Ross and Ron Reagan, but Dori is an off button for us, whereas we, like others, kept our hands on the on button for Mike Webb. RIP

  21. 27

    Yer Killin Me spews:

    I know I listened to Mike Webb in bits and pieces but I’ll be horsewhipped if I can remember a single program.

    Anyway, I have to agree with YLB@2. No one deserves to die like that, convicted felon or not.

  22. 28

    righton spews:

    I cannot recall what he sounded like, so my slant is

    a) kiro went from moderate to left wing about 5 or 10 yrs ago
    b) i chuckle when ya’ll go nuts over dori; he’s a lib too; just shows how lefty you are
    c) Dave ross is far left, albeit polished and ever so sincere

    I guess when you shut down free speech w/ the fairness doctrine crap maybe Kiro will have to veer back to center again?

    ps, does fairness doctrine then mean the lefty propganda station channel 9 will become fair and balanced?

  23. 29

    K spews:

    @28- You are joking if you think Dori is a liberal. He is playing to the anti-government crowd .

  24. 30

    skagit spews:

    A passionate liberal with an artistic temperament . . . sorry he’s gone and sorry they took him off the radio. I liked him.

  25. 31

    klake spews:

    Mark says:

    Roger Rabbit says:

    @8 “Well, I don’t walk around pissed off at the world like Webb did …”

    You forgot to finish the sentence, so allow me to do it for you. “and I sure as hell have not and would not ever commit insurance fraud”

    Funny how you all but ignore the fact that he was a convicted criminal.

    06/29/2007 at 7:48 pm

    Mark it is OK for the Social Democrats to be convicted of a crime but not a Republican. They are Ok committing crimes as long as it fits their Ideology. Most Far Far Liberals have an anger problem and usually piss off at the world, maybe because they fear death.
    By the way Roger is the present day Minister for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda like Paul Joseph Goebbels for the Social Democrats Party.

  26. 33

    spews:

    #28 I understand you have been listening to the entire right wingnut radio world lie about the fairness doctrine’s re-introduction. No problem. You probably believe everything Rush says. You would have also believed everything Castro, Hitler, and Stalin said too. It is not your fault, you weren’t born with common sense, just anger.

    The whole ideology the right winger radio liars support is a fraud at every single level. From spouting about being “conservative” when today’s Republicon Party is exactly the opposite, and they claim they support families, while doing everything in their power to impoverish 99% of America’s families. They have made the reality based community sick to their stomachs.

    Rush Limpdik, and Hannjob have to lie on a minute by minute basis, and bring on guests to back up their lies, with their own lies just to keep the blatantly retarded anti democracy nazis that listen to their right wing radio shows full of hate, and anger.

    By the way, there is no legislation to re-introduce the fairness doctrine. It is 100% a lie the rightie sleazebags made up to make their retarded nazi listeners angry. They do this all the time. Make a straw man argument, and scream in unison the GOP talking points memo script.

    Lie, lie, lie, and lie some more is the regular right wing radio programming. The wingnuts eat it up like Ichiro bobblehead traitor dolls. Yep Ruuush, iz all dem immgrantz fawlt, yezitiz. Gotta keep dem gayz from gettin married tooo. Drooooool.

    From listening to Hannity claims we found WMD’s in Iraq, to hearing Ollie North call Kerry a war criminal (when Ollie was the one convicted), the bile that is pumped out of these Benedict Arnold’s right winger radio sleazebags mouths is sickening to anyone that has half a clue, much less can accept reality.

    What irks me the most is how you right wing retards screamed at the top of your lungs we had to hold Clinton accountable, because no one, not even the president is above the law. Then Bush, the pathetic lying bloodthirsty dirtbag commits felony, after felony, after felony, and tells blatant lie, after blatant lie, and you support him like he is your fuc*ing mommie.

    I urinate on anyone that calls themselves a Republican these days. I just tell them it is rain. They deserve far worse. Far, far worse for what they have done to our country, and our constitution.

    Got a question for the righties.

    Can any of you morons explain what habeas corpus was?

    And you are worried about the fairness doctrine. Every time a right wing hate merchant told a lie, they should be thrown in prison for propaganda, and spreading their pathetic lies. Then we wouldn’t need a fairness doctrine.

    Just keep in mind. If too many radio stations run Schultz, and Air America, too many Americans will begin to understand how much damage today’s Republican Party, with the help of a handful of Democrats have done to our once great nation.

    No one will buy the lies of the Right Wingers any more, and the corporate dirtbags that own the media corporations will not be able to sell their propoganda any more, and that will cost them dearly!

    I say break up the monopolies, and to hell with the fairness doctrine. Having dirtbags like Murdoch in control of the media is insanely bad for our country.

  27. 34

    klake spews:

    June 29th friends and fans of Mike Webb convened for a special 2 hour memorial program on GAYBC.com. Hosted by Mike’s friend and former colleague, John McMullen, the program was a tribute to one of the great liberal voices in talk radio, with guests that included friend, colleague and webmaster of MikeWebb.org, Bob Vesely and former Mike Webb Show producer Jeremy Grater. Fans called in and shared thoughts and some of the best moments they remember from Mike’s many years on radio.

    To access the program, go to http://www.gaybc.com, and click on the audio links. The program will be replayed for several days.

    Hey Folks I didn’t know Mike was Gay maybe it was a hate crime?

  28. 35

    klake spews:

    June 29th friends and fans of Mike Webb convened for a special 2 hour memorial program on GAYBC.com. Hosted by Mike’s friend and former colleague, John McMullen, the program was a tribute to one of the great liberal voices in talk radio, with guests that included friend, colleague and webmaster of MikeWebb.org, Bob Vesely and former Mike Webb Show producer Jeremy Grater. Fans called in and shared thoughts and some of the best moments they remember from Mike’s many years on radio.

    To access the program, go to http://www.gaybc.com , and click on the audio links. The program will be replayed for several days.

    Hey Folks I didn’t know Mike was Gay maybe it was a hate crime?

  29. 36

    spews:

    God it must suck being a Republicon these days. Every single day another bunch of crimes by your party’s leaders is uncovered……

    You would have to hate America, Democracy, and all that is good reeeeeeeel bad to call yourselves a Republicon these days.

    I know, I know. There are lots of countries we have not bombed yet, so there is still hope right? Not every single member of the human race living beyond our shores hates our country yet, so there is still hope right.

    Your party is nothing but bile. Prepare to be the minority party forever. You deserve far worse. The RICO laws is what the K-Street Project deserves, and Tom DeLay, and caging list Griffin should be convicted of ALL their crimes, instead of having them ignored because the entire justice system is an extension of the GOP.

    The investigations have just started, and you have Republicon, and White House rats running in every direction at 500 miles an hour. Imagine what it would be like if the entire justice system was dispensing justice instead of prosecuting dems for political purposes.

    Your GOP’s time is up.

    Good riddance.

    You all confess, and we will build the jails!

  30. 37

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    U.S. troops killed in Iraq in last 3 months: 329
    U.S. troops killed in Iraq this month: 99

  31. 38

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @20 “Funny how you all but ignore the fact that he was a convicted criminal.”

    Funny how for every Mike Webb there’s 10 convicted Republican congressmen rotting in jail.

  32. 39

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I guess for righties like Mark who see the world in absolutes, the fact Webb was convicted of a crime makes it impossible to say anything good about him.

    Logically, the flip side is that wingnuts would never say anything bad about someone who’s never committed a crime.

    I’ve never committed a crime.

  33. 40

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @31 “By the way Roger is the present day Minister for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda …”

    So what? I’m a partisan hack and liberal propagandist. I admit it. Get over it.

  34. 42

    spews:

    In the spirit of Mikle Webb, lest Rake a little Muck:

    If anyone is interested I just posted a long essay about the plans for SLU. For those who do not know this is yet another taxpayer subsidized contribution to an enterprise for Paul Allan. I am told that 100,000 folks may live in SLU onde ay and they will get a bargain because we, the tax payers, are bearing the costs of the infrastructure these newbies will use. (We a;ready pay MUCH higher taxes than our neghbors to the East, North or South.

    So, I had hoped to learn what we ar getting for all this investment. Not much seems to be the answer, Instead we are helping Paul while adding 100,00 new famililess residents to this much abused city.

    I feat that there are no plans for anything much beyond what is needed for Vulcan to build and sell off its enhanced properties. What do I get?

    SeattleJew

  35. 44

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @36 Maybe that explains why so many Republicans are pretending to be Democrats or Independents nowadays.

  36. 45

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @42 Paul Allen gets the profits; you get the taxes. But poor Paul needs all the profits he can get because he’s not a very good businessmen. Bill Gates made $40 billion for Paul. Paul has lost $20 billion of it trying to be a businessman without Bill’s help.

  37. 47

    Tuor spews:

    I was deeply saddened to hear that Mike Webb has been murdered. I often listened to his show, and respected him greatly, even though I disagreed with many of his views. I think we have lost a good man in Mike Webb.

    I hope they catch the SOB who murdered him and hang him from a tall tree.

  38. 49

    My Left Foot spews:

    Mark at far too many:

    Fuck you! You have nothing to add. The only position that you should take on any issue for the next 20 years is a bent over one. Your conservative “ideals” are about to be rammed up your ample ass and bending over might make it a bit less unpleasant for you. We won’t be using lube either.

    Wishing you all the best.

  39. 50

    JC spews:

    Tuor, as has been remarked already, Mike was strongly against the death penalty and I suspect his family will honor his wishes and once the culprit(s) are hopefully caught, will ask the prosecutor to take death off the table.

  40. 51

    Tuor spews:

    JC @50,

    I know that, but I’m not Mike Webb. As I mentioned, I disagreed with him on many (but not all) subjects, and the Death Penalty is one of them.

    I’m not going to launch into an argument for or against the Death Penalty here (though maybe at another time). I’m just stating my own view on what I think should be done to the fiend responsible for this despicable act.

  41. 52

    Right Stuff spews:

    May his sole rest in peace. Life is a gift and someone took his away..I hope the killer is found and brought to justice.

  42. 53

    righton spews:

    #33, alias “facts support”

    you should go listen to your last president candidate john kerry opine on reintroducting fairness doctrine, plus credible reports of top Dem senators favoring it. Just cuz there is not a bill on the docket as we speak doesn’t mean ya’ll aren’t getting ready to “fix” free speech.

    Can you imagine the seattle airwaves if equal time was enforced? yeah 570 and 770 get tweaked, but then all the TV stations plus lefty 1090, 710 etc gotta return to the center, or balance their current leftness w/ some conserv news and opinions.

    do you realy want every station to sound like Schram vs Carson? ugh

  43. 54

    klake spews:

    1. My Left Foot says:
    Mark at far too many:
    Fuck you! You have nothing to add. The only position that you should take on any issue for the next 20 years is a bent over one. Your conservative “ideals” are about to be rammed up your ample ass and bending over might make it a bit less unpleasant for you. We won’t be using lube either.
    Hey Mark it appears that My Left Foot wants to swap position with you he is getting tired of taking it in the ass from his friends and lovers. Lefty have a great day and don’t piss anybody off if you know what I mean.

  44. 55

    klake spews:

    “Either you loved him or hated him, but even a lot of people who hated his style listened to him anyway.”

    Off the air, Webb was reclusive and shy, Clendening said. He relished being in a darkened studio, late at night, talking to strangers from behind a microphone.

    An openly gay man who had struggled with drugs and alcohol, Webb often saw himself as standing up for the little guy.

    “In some ways, he felt he was one,” Clendening said.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19516069/
    Yep it must been a hate crime by someone on the far left who didn’t get their fare share. Roger must know who the villian is but will not talk.
    By the way Roger is the present day Minister for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda like Paul Joseph Goebbels for the Socialist Democrats Party. His Nazi friends taught him the trade when he visited them in jail.

    06/29/2007 at 10:55 pm

  45. 57

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    “Grab Your Buckets, Grab Your Brooms”

    “MIAMI (AP) – ‘A clean sweep’ is needed at the White House because President Bush has fostered ‘a culture of cronyism, corruption and incompetence,’ Hillary Rodham Clinton … told … 1,000 women at a fundraiser ….

    “‘After eight years of the Bush administration, we are going to be shocked by what we find,’ the New York senator … said.

    “‘Grab your buckets, grab your brooms,’ Clinton said. ‘We’re going to have to do a clean sweep because there has been a culture of cronyism, corruption and incompetence.’ Sen. Clinton said Bush has squandered the budget surplus that … President Clinton left and damaged the nation’s standing in the world ….

    “The Republican National Committee responded that women will not support Clinton based on her position on major issues. ‘If Hillary Clinton thinks women will support her candidacy simply based on her gender she is mistaken,’ RNC spokeswoman Amber Wilkerson said. ‘Women, like men, will vote for a candidate because they share their views, and Hillary’s consist of higher taxes, bigger government and waving a white flag in the global war on terror.'”

    Quoted under Fair Use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://tinyurl.com/2epbxm

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Ms. Wilkerson is full of shit, and she knows it. She’s being paid to put a happy face on a fucking disaster! Regardless of whether Sen. Clinton or someone else is the Democratic nominee, polls clearly show the American public is now massively rejecting the lies, chicanery, fairytales, partisan manipulation, incompetence, and outright thievery of the hopelessly corrupt and inept Republican Party. She is also right about the federal government needing a top-to-bottom housecleaning to eject the thousands of unqualified Bush lackeys warming seats in federal agencies. The entire government is broken; absolutely nothing works in our country anymore. Air travel is a mess; our food isn’t safe; the economy is mismanaged; and, of course, the military is being sorely misused and ground into the dirt. It’s ludicrous for GOP shills to call Democrats “surrender monkeys” while Bush is getting his ass kicked in Iraq and Afghanistan, and coffins of American soldiers stream home in ever growing numbers with nothing to show for their valiant sacrifices. It’s not enough to say Bush appointees are unqualified; they are opposed to the very government and its principles which they are charged to manage, and their management reflects it. There’s a good reason why they operate in secrecy, hide documents, and refuse to testify under oath: Because their management of our government is not only negligent and ineffective, but also, in many instances, criminal in nature — and they, understandably, would rather enjoy the fruits of their corruption in Belize or Switzerland than languish in federal prisons.

    One of the first things the new president has to do is replace the current crop of election fraudsters with an ENERGETIC crew of FEDERAL PROSECUTORS because the new U.S. Attorneys and their new staffs are going to be very busy.

  46. 58

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I’m against the fairness doctrine. I think we should just fucking confiscate the rightwing media, and throw the traitors who own it in prison, or better yet shoot ‘em.*

    * Just kidding! Only trying out some Ann Coulter humor, ha ha ha!

  47. 59

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Hey rightys! So, what do you guys think of this Ann Coulter-style humor? You fellas seem to applaud it a lot, so since you like it so much, I probably should do more of it! Ya think?

  48. 61

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Goebbels’ mistake was being a fucking Nazi and sucking up to a monster like Hitler. I’m the total opposite of Goebbels — a real American, a patriot, a champion of everything rabbit!! Goebbels got it all wrong, just as Klake and his wingnutty friends have it all wrong, in fact they’re a lot alike in their ideologies.

  49. 62

    Yossarian spews:

    Roger,

    Get a hobby or something to occupy your time. You spend too much fucking time on this shit.

  50. 63

    Mick Sheldon spews:

    Use to listen to Mike Webb . He made Ann Coulter sound like a diplomat . He had his good points too if you listened to him . I liked to listen to the folks he had on as guests , Congressmen Inslee to WEA honchos .

    I recall a young person called up once with obvious disabilities but had a traditional point of view on matters . Mike treated him with the utmost respect , he usually did not with people he disagreed with . But I always recall that he did have a place in his heart for people who had difficulties in their life . If he had cleaned up his hate speech he would have had a show that was much more popular . His audiences was like Goldsteins , played to the far left choir . Hated religious people , hated many people if you listened to him often .

  51. 64

    spews:

    To the various assorted wingnuts complaining that we aren’t highlighting Mr. Webb’s legal problems.

    Oddly enough, we also didn’t highlight the problems we had with Mr. Maleng when he died. It’s something called “propriety”, and we understand that many of you will need to look that word up in a dictionary, so here is a bit of help:

    pro·pri·e·ty

    n. pl. pro·pri·e·ties
    1. The quality of being proper; appropriateness.
    2. Conformity to prevailing customs and usages.
    3. proprieties The usages and customs of polite society.

    You may want to have someone explain the big words.

  52. 65

    spews:

    To the various wingnuts that are complaining that we aren’t highlighting Mr. Webb’s legal problems.

    While I’m sure that it escaped your attention, we also didn’t highlight our issues with Mr. Maleng when he died. Due to a little thing called “propriety” we felt that it would be inappropriate.

    Since this is likely to be a new word for many of you, I’m sending along this definition:

    pro·pri·e·ty

    n. pl. pro·pri·e·ties
    1. The quality of being proper; appropriateness.
    2. Conformity to prevailing customs and usages.
    3. proprieties The usages and customs of polite society.

    Even so, you may want to have a reasonably intelligent friend (assuming, of course, that you have one) explain the big words in the definition.

  53. 67

    Mark The Redneck Goldstein spews:

    Best quote of the week has to go to Justice Roberts when he told you fucking racists in Seattle to knock it off:

    “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”

    Aren’t you glad we have adults running SCOTUS now? GWB has been awful preznit, but he sure got SCOTUS appointments right.

  54. 68

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Thanks, John Barelli. Mike Webb was a tortured individual in many ways, but he had his strengths, as well. No one deserves the end he had thrust upon him. We should all die quietly, and in not much discomfort, at home, surrounded by our loved ones.

  55. 69

    Jane Balogh's Dog spews:

    65

    Hehehehe Yeah….If there is one thing the dems are known for it is their sense of Propriety….hehehehehehe yup. hehehehehehe

  56. 70

    Mark The Redneck Goldstein spews:

    Heard snippet today that The Inventor of The Internet and Savior of Planet Erf has cancelled all public appearances for next 6 months. Some think he may run for president.

    I know you moonbats hate me, and I revel in your hate, but if I can just ask one favor…puhleeeeeeeeze nominate gore for president. PULLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZEEEEEEE

  57. 71

    Jane Balogh's Dog spews:

    58 & 59

    What do we got here. Sounds like another whiney,”I can dish is out but can’t take it”, pussified democrat complaining about Ann Coulter. They are a dime a dozen.

  58. 72

    spews:

    Marki…

    FWIW,

    Gore did “invent” the internet. He was the Congress person who saw that Darpanet, the mmilitary precursor, had civilian possibilities and sponsored the legislation.

    Ohh to be an iggorant man!

  59. 73

    headless lucy spews:

    re 67: “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”

    “Just say no!”

    We are trying to even out the depradations of white racists of the past. Ask yourself this: How does the SCOTUS’ recent ideological blabber help that? It doesn’t.

    And Republicans can whistle Dixie if they are hoping to get any Black votes.

    When the SCOTUS stopped the vote counting in Florida in’00, Clinton was still President. He should’ve marched some Marines to the offending justices offices and then arrested GWB, his father, and that miserable freak Cheney.

    Cuz what they did was illegal.

  60. 75

    Mark The Redneck Goldstein spews:

    Headlice – Shit, I guess you’re right. WTF was I thinking. I sure can’t argue with your logic.

    When The Smartest Woman in The World is running the Murkan Vaginocrcy, you should tell her you wanna be on SCOTUS so you can splain things to us dumb rednecks.

  61. 76

    Mark The Redneck Goldstein spews:

    Looks like algore stepped on his dick again by citing Mount Kilamanjaro as the poster mountain for “global warming”.

    seattletimesDOTnwsourceDOTcom/html/localnews/2003744089_kilimanjaro12mDOThtml?syndication=rss

    The more he talks, the more real scientists dispute his kook religion. Is that why he cancelled all public appearances?

    Algore has NEVER been right about anything. HTF can you guys look up to him as your gawd?

  62. 77

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    76 – REDNECK, YOU CHANGED YOUR LAST NAME.

    SO HOW’D THE ANTI-SEMITIC NAME CALLING SESSION GO WITH YOUR MIRROR THIS MORNING?

    MIRROR MIRROR ON THE WALL..

    PAY YOUR F’ING GAMBLING DEBT.

  63. 78

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    the more real scientists

    TRANSLATION FROM SHITHEAD LANGUAGE: HACKS GETTING A PAYDAY FROM THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY.

  64. 79

    Mark The Redneck Goldstein spews:

    YOS – yeah, ya busted me. UW Professor Mote is a well known hack of the oil industry. He should be fired.

  65. 80

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    I GUESS THAT MOTE GUY IS NOT A “REAL SCIENTIST”.

    He hastens to add that global warming is, indeed, responsible for the fact that nearly every other glacier around the globe is melting away.

    A “REAL SCIENTIST” WOULD BE GETTING HIS PAYCHECK FROM EXXON-MOBIL OR PEABODY COAL.

    FUCKING BET WELSHING, REALITY-DENYING IDIOT.

  66. 81

    Mark The Redneck Goldstein spews:

    Yos – Really? Name one.

    Seattle Times ran a story a while ago that showed glaciers on Mt. Rainer. It shows that glaciers on Mt. Rainier have actually been GROWING for the past 20 years, and started shrinking WAY before I started driving an SUV.

    If ya wanna convince me, just show me the chi squared analysis that says current temps are outside historical norms.

    Didn’t think so…

    Gullible fucking idiot…

  67. 82

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    WHERE’S THE LINK MORON? OR SHOULD I JUST TAKE YOUR BET-WELSHING WORD FOR IT?

    AND FUCK YOU AND YOUR CHI-SQUARED CRAP.

    I’LL TAKE THE CONCLUSIONS OF THOUSANDS OF CLIMATE SCIENTISTS (LIKE UW’S MOTE) OVER YOUR RIGHT-WING BULLSHIT ANY TIME.

  68. 83

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    JUST PAY YOUR FUCKING GAMBLING DEBT AND PEDDLE YOUR REALITY-DENYING RELIGION SOMEWHERE ELSE.

  69. 84

    GS spews:

    Heh Edwards Libs, I hear terrorism is just a bumper sticker.

    Ask the British Government and Scotland’s Glasgow airport.

  70. 85

    Yer Killin Me spews:

    Yep, terrorism is real, which is why we should all hide under the bed, wet our pants and cry for daddy to come save us every time some halfwit concocts a plan that relies on a cunning and unexpected suspension of the laws of physics for its successful execution!

  71. 86

    GS spews:

    Better tell Edwards that! He seems to be very halfwit unaware that there is any terrorism going on in this world..

    Maybe he should peel that bumper sticker off of his car.

  72. 87

    Yer Killin Me spews:

    Oh no! Terrorists! Let’s all hide under the bed, wet our pants and cry to daddy to save us from their dastardly plots that will only succeed through the brilliant and unexpected suspension of the laws of physics!!

  73. 88

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    THE MOST LAME TERRORISTS EVER. FOUR NUMBNUTS ARE ALREADY UNDER ARREST. NOWHERE CLOSE TO THE SUBWAY BOMBERS.

    BUT GASSY SHITHEAD (GS) IS SO SCEEERED. OH CHIMPANZEE I VOTED FOR TWICE PLEASE SAVE ME! DUCK! CHENEY PLEASE TORTURE MORE SWARTHY GUYS SO I CAN FEEEEEL SAFER!

  74. 90

    Union Fireman spews:

    New tax goes into effect tomorrow on gas. Thanks Libs. Our Gas tax is now the 5th Highest in the US. What has it paid for? Narrows Bridge? Nope, toll pays for that. Oh wait, I remember, the “queen” made a decision on the Alaskan Way Viaduct…. Oops, forgot about her stellar leadership on that one to. Well, I guess we can look forward to more indecisiveness and wastefully spending money on projects that never come to fruition

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/.....nds08.html

    Note: They still can’t flow water on this. Way to go LIBS!!!!!!!!!!

  75. 91

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Republicans Hate Libraries

    Republicans tried to strip $150,000 from the Interior appropriations bill for renovation of Bremerton’s library, an FDR-era art deco building. http://tinyurl.com/28d4ql Never mind THEY passed 13,000 earmarks last year; the fucking cheapskates are jerking around the library for no better reason than it’s because it’s in a Democratic district. Republicans even play politics with libraries!

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....ol30m.html

  76. 92

    spews:

    Roger at 11:53 PM

    No, Roger, they don’t actually hate libraries. They just have no idea of what they’re for.

    From their perspective, a big bonfire is so much more effective a way of dealing with books, and they can make smores and sing campfire songs about war heroes like George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, and pass around nude photos of Ann Coulter.

    The problem with libraries is that sometimes we let folks go into them and actually read the books, which encourages independent thought, research on the facts surrounding the neo-con talking points and other dangerous and un Amurikun activities.

    Geez, Roger. Some of those libraries actually contain copies of the Constitution. The last thing any of the neo-cons want is for people to start reading subversive material like that.

  77. 93

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    90 – REPUBLICAN FIREMAN – READ THE FUCKING WADOT WEBSITE TO SEE WHAT THE GAS TAXES ARE PAYING FOR.

    THEN GO SUCK EYMAN’S COCK FOR THE WRENCH HE THREW INTO THE WORKS WITH I-695.

    PEOPLE BOUGHT A LOT OF FANCY NEW GAS GUZZLIN’ CARS WITH THOSE CHEAP TAGS – NOW LOOK AT THE PRICE OF GAS!

    AND NOW LOOK AT THE HIGHER COSTS FOR FIXING CRUMBLING INFRASTRUCTURE!

    WAY TO GO BRAINDEAD RIGHT-WINGERS!

  78. 94

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @90 OK, let’s repeal the gas tax and you can ride a horse to work on dirt roads.

  79. 95

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Newsweek Columnist: Cheney Manipulated Bush, Wrecked GOP

    In a remarkable column in this week’s Newsweek magazine, Eleanor Clift writes:

    “Pushed forward by George and Barbara Bush, who had no confidence in their eldest son, Cheney was supposed to serve as the ghost of Bush Senior hovering around the White House. Cheney took on the job and with, George W.’s acquiescence, made himself the locus of power. What nobody anticipated is the extent to [Cheney] would insinuate himself into everything–and the devastating consequences of his influence, particularly the Iraq War.”

    Clift quotes long-time Cheney confidante Vic Gold as describing Cheney as a “mega-maniacal paranoid” who “captured the Bush presidency and helped bring the Republican Party to the brink of ruin.”

    Vic Gold, according to Clift, “doesn’t really think” Bush is “dumb,” but says Bush “can be manipulated” and calls him “the weakest president in my memory.”

    Quoted under Fair Use; to read the entire remarkable article you should buy the magazine and support its advertisers, but you Republican freeloaders can read it free on Newsweek’s web site here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19.....ek/page/0/

  80. 96

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    It never ceases to amaze me how rightys think they can get roads and bridges without paying for them. The only logical explanation is they hope someone else will pay for them so they can use them free.

    Republicans = freeloaders

  81. 97

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    One of the most amazing spectacles in Washington politics is listening to eastern Washington Republicans bleating about paying taxes for Seattle infrastructure.

    The reverse is true. Those counties are too lightly populated to pay enough taxes for the infrastructure THEY have. Their roads and schools are heavily subsidized by urban taxpayers. King County not only pays for its own infrastructure but IN ADDITION exports over $125 million a year of gas taxes to other counties.

    Virtually every Republican county in the state is a net importer of gas tax revenue — and full of whiny people bitching about the taxes OTHER PEOPLE pay for THEIR roads and schools!

    Republicans = 2 year olds

  82. 98

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Union Fireman knows nothing about the gasoline market. A lower gas tax would NOT result in lower pump prices. If Democrats hadn’t raised the gas tax to pay for badly needed roads and bridges, that money would simply go to the oil companies as profit. That’s because pump prices are set by supply and demand. Lowering the gas tax by 9 cents would push up demand, which would push up prices to equal today’s pump price, or possibly even higher.

    Raising the gas tax is justified from another standpoint. The gas tax is not indexed for inflation, so it has to be raised periodically simply to maintain existing purchasing power. The price of everything else rises with inflation, so why shouldn’t gas taxes rise to keep up with inflation, too?

    In addition, the population of our state is expanding, and the old level of taxation — even if raised to adjust for inflation and the reduced purchasing power of a penny — would only maintain existing roads and would not expand our road system to accomodation the growing population. That money has to come from somewhere, and it obviously should come from those using the roads.

    Union Fireman is a sophomoric dolt who thinks with his dick instead of the brain God gave him.

  83. 99

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Many people don’t realize improved vehicle fuel efficiency is a major threat to state transportation revenues. Let’s say people switched from SUVs to high-mileage hybrids that get twice the mileage. You still have the same number of vehicles on the road, and still need the same amount of roads, but now you’re collecting only half as much gas tax. What the state obviously will have to do is make up for the loss of gas tax revenues from decreased gasoline sales by either raising the gas tax or some other vehicle tax, such as license fees. Roads and bridges don’t cost less simply because the vehicles using them burn less fuel and therefore pay less fuel tax.

  84. 100

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    wow! This thread is already up to 100 posts even though Goldy’s server was down all day! That’s more than the competing little wingnut blog gets even when their hosting system is working!

  85. 102

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    JohnBarrelli@92 Even scarier to the Right would be teaching women and girls to read and encouraging them to use those libraries.Who knows, they might want to vote, and horror of horrors, hold elected office. What would MarktheRetarded™RedNeck do in such a society?

  86. 103

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Captain America, 1941 – 2007, RIP

    Marvel Comics killed off Capt. America!! I can’t believe they did that! I’ll bet Dickless Cheney had his fingers in this.

  87. 104

    ArtFart spews:

    With Goldy’s server problems, the site appears to be regressing in time. At this rate, by the end of the week, the lead thread will probably be about Darcy coming to DL for the first time, or maybe David Irons’ relations with his mother.

  88. 105

    Yer Killin Me spews:

    99

    You are right to a point; however, it seems that vehicles with improved mileage are likely to be smaller and lighter than traditional vehicles, so there will be a bit less stress on the roads than there is with today’s vehicles. Still, I think the best we could hope for from a tax standpoint is that tax revenues vs. maintenance stays flat, or maybe maintenance doesn’t fall behind as quickly.

  89. 106

    Yer Killin Me spews:

    91

    If Republicans had their way there would be no libraries. In fact they would like for you to buy a new copy of every book you want to read every time you want to read it, and make it a Federal crime to share books.

    Didn’t these people’s kindergarten teachers tell them it’s good to share your toys?

  90. 108

    Mark The Redneck Goldstein spews:

    Rabbit 98 – Yer in over yer head dumshit.

    Google the term “elasticity of demand”. Report back on the slope of the curve for gas and what it means.

    Dumfuckingass…

  91. 109

    Jane Balogh's Dog spews:

    106

    No not exactly. If republicans had their way they would get rid of the public screwels. We would open up K-12 education to the free market thus killing the public teacher’s union, democrat politician complex. Of course if this happened the biggest winner would be the children along with the American taxpayer.

  92. 110

    Jane Balogh's Dog spews:

    The biggest looser would be liberalism itself. Most parents who care about their kids would flee any school forcing it down the kiddies throats.

  93. 111

    GS spews:

    New Internet Sales Tax. Good Job Libs, watch internet sales head into the tank, because of the shipping cost plus the sales tax. Hope none of you have stock in Amazon or Ebay.

    I’ll buy just over the border in Oregon where there is no sales tax. It’s now more than ever worth the monthly trip.

  94. 112

    spews:

    My husband and I often listened to Mike’s show on KIRO after we went to bed at night, plus we heard him in person at several of the KIRO town meetings. He always said that he loved the freedom afforded being on the air late at night, after the kids were asleep. While we did not agree with everything he said, he was always entertaining and worth listening to. What a passionate guy! We loved that he made us think and brought up topics not covered by the mainstream media. Since KIRO fired him and let Erin Hart and the “Professor” go, we no longer listen to that station.

    Spent the last half hour surfing blog responses to Mike’s death. Was shocked to find so many people spewing hatred towards him even though he was brutally murdered! His death sure aroused intense emotions, even from people who had never heard him on the air and profess to be religious…must be the Christian way. (I was brought up not malign the departed but apparently it’s ok if the recently deceased is a cursed liberal). Just hope his family isn’t too unset by all the mean-spirited dribble.

    We are sure that a person as caring and concerned as Mike will forgive those who speak poorly of him, as he is now in a better place.

  95. 113

    barb spews:

    Goldy, can you help me locate the artist and song that was played before Mike Webb’s show. I would love to have it. And thank you for his tribute. I loved his show and I loved how he helped me cope. I miss him and have missed him. And I am grateful for your show now and hope you will find more air time as did Mike.

  96. 114

    spews:

    Goldy, Meant to thank you for the tribute Saturday night for Mike during the 8PM hour of your show. We were busy but caught part of it…will have to look it up on archives. Mainly listen to 1090 KPTK now; didn’t realize there was any liberal talk show hosts left on KIRO except Dave Ross but will now look to see when you are on.

  97. 115

    ArtFart spews:

    109 Yeah, sure…let’s see what a “heckuva job” Halliburton does of running schools. Especially with the benefits of:

    The Discovery Institute providing the science curriculum.

    School lunches consisting of Chinese fried catfish, corn syrup laced “Kiske” (any former denizens of Camp Parsons out there?) and ketchup. (Not Heiz, of course.)

    Blackwater running campus security.

    Civics classes taught by Tom DeLay. (Hey, the guy needs the work, right?)

    Business ethics taught by Jack Abramoff, John Simson of the RIAA, and the ghost of Ken Lay.

    Driver’s training taught using Hummers.

  98. 117

    Tangled Webb spews:

    On Saturday I caught the end of Al ‘Goldy’ Goldstein’s act on KIRO. Screw, baby.

    Goldy was in full First Amendment free screech mode, ranting that the half-vast right wing conspiracy has taken over Kos & Arianna’s Huff’n’Puffington Post, leaving Goldy as the only unabashed liberal left unbashed. Then he shrieked about the half-vast mad bomber conspiracy, Bush in a burqa pretending to blow up Britain so he can turn Gordon Brown into a melamine poodle. Then, using her “own words,” he shrieked some more about Ann Coulter.

    Caller Andy tried helpfully to set Goldstein, um, straight … that Ann’s own words were taken almost word-for-word from left-wing plutocrat Bill Maher (a point carefully made on this blog last week). So Goldy went into a full-blown half-mad rant about killing the conservative Supreme Court. Which unjust justice should we poison first? Ann Coulter, after all, wrote about spicing up John Paul Steven’s entree with Chinese toothpaste, and why should only the Right get away with killer invective?

    (But sane listeners surely remember that, more than ten years ago, sensitive compassionate leftist Julianne Malveaux called for the poisoning of Clarence Thomas. Coulter was using Malveaux’s own words, changing only the punchline, so Goldy’s way late to the party. He’s clueless as usual. Oy, and by the way, remember when Tom DeLay questioned unhinged judicial activism? The left went wild, accusing conservatives of attacking the independence of the courts. So it was, like, so droll when Goldy started screaming about the Supremes destroying America’s diversity and wrecking Seattle’s schools.)

    All things considered (and I’m sure that Goldy, who counts neo-socialist Dave Ross as a centrist also counts the left’s subsidized NPR as centrist) it was a wild ride. My oh my.

    It was Al ‘Goldy’ Goldstein’s homage to Mike Webb. And Goldy’s unhinged hysteria and paranoia were surely a right-on relevant eulogy. Unlike Shiers’ sickly gig on Friday, where the “nice” “kind” “helpful” Webb was extolled because Shiers said in almost so many words that honest callers would be cut off, Goldy’s was a nut-case tribute to the truth: Webb, rest in peace, was a lost violent soul. He was cattle-mutilation dreamland from the left’s farthest fringe of nightmare lunacy. And, with a 50-50 chance of being right, he was right about Iraq being wrong.

    (Back to Shiers, uber geek. Imagine if the same sacharine sanitized standard had been applied to, say, Falwell. If only polite things could be said. The compassionate left, who for days danced, in public and in print on Falwell’s corpse, would have been uncharacteristically speechless. Or imagine if Shiers had applied the Falwell standard to Webb, allowing somebody to channel leftist invective by saying, say, that Webb had stabbed himself to death to collect the insurance, a big pile of money from Geico.)

    Which brings us back to Coulter. Surely it’s now obvious even to the oblivious left that Coulter’s ugly act is to use your own unhinged hatred against you. I mean, why should only Mike Webb or Mike Malloy or Al ‘Goldy’ Goldstein have all the ugly fun? Why would Falwell, who every few years would say something stupid, be pilloried in public while Webb or Malloy, sayiing something stupid every minute the Mike mics were on, got paychecks from corporate America? Of course nobody gets Coulter’s jokes — sort of like Stephanie MIller calling Rush a racist because he repeated and replayed Teddy Kennedy’s drunken laff-riot rant about “Osama Obama” — so she keeps shooting herself in the foot. And selling books.

    Which brings us back to Webb. He made me nervous to be a Bill of Rights absolutist. No, not the First Amendment; the Second. Although I thank mean-spirited Webb for making me a mean-spirited conservative, it’s still troubling for us proponents of a living, breathing Constitution thatsomebody like Webb could read Second Amendment language about a well-regulated militia, and think that he was one. America’s worst nightmare: an America-hating leftist with a gun.

    Apres Goldy, Saturday nite, there was Turi. In her muddled maundering way she slapped Goldy down, I think, for his shrieked assertions that gasoline, propane, and a few thousand nails are no big deal, except for the fact that Cheney’s to blame. Then Turi, in her muddled maudering way, talked about Mike Webb’s private life. Why didn’t the media let him have one? Why didn’t they let him be privately crazy?

    Aside from the fact that Seattle’s poodle press accorded Webb every courtesy that they never gave to Mike Siegel, Mr. Webb chose not to have privacy. He rubbed our noses in his private life. He rammed it down our throats. And he got a gun.

  99. 119

    spews:

    I thoroughly enjoyed Mike’s show on KIRO and there was a big void in my nightly going-to-sleep routine after his firing. But the news of his “passing” is just tragic and sickening.
    While I never knew him other than as a listener, he had a personality that made you feel like a long-time friend of his (of course that’s only IF you agreed with his worldview, which I did). My condolences to his friends and family who lost a great one.