Mike!™ McGavick is a stinking drunk

To call him “a stinking drunk” might strike some as a misleading and means-spirited personal attack on Mike!™ McGavick’s character, but in my defense I’m only attempting to follow his lead. Indeed, unless he wants to add the word “hypocritical” to the headline, the dipsomaniacal former lobbyist and self-proclaimed champion of civility must reluctantly acknowledge the epithet as both accurate and, well… civil.

Huh?

Yeah, I know us Democrats tend to get bogged down in nuance, but I want you to follow me on a little thought experiment, put all your partisanship and cynicism aside, and assume for just a moment that we can actually take Mike!™ at his word.

You see, Mike!™ says he wants to bring civility back to the other Washington, and rails against candidates for “attacking each other’s personal character instead of attacking the issues.” And in his much publicized, recent mea culpa he even apologized for a TV ad he ran in 1988 while managing Slade Gorton’s senate campaign — an ad that cynically mischaracterized Mike Lowry’s position on drug legalization.

“Though we never raised it again, we should have pulled it once evidence mounted that the Daily article was not an accurate reflection of his views.”

Mike!™ lists this ethical lapse as one of the two biggest regrets of his professional career. So let’s take him at his word. Surely, today’s Mike!™, a champion of civility and clean campaigning, would never knowingly mislead voters about an opponent’s views again.

So how do we explain Mike!™’s current radio spot in which he accuses Sen. Maria Cantwell of opposing allowing Washington residents to deduct state and local sales tax from their federal income tax?

“Maria Cantwell voted with her party, against our deduction and against our families,” says the announcer, noting that the deduction was worth $550 to Washington families.

“Sen. Cantwell said she voted ‘no’ because she disagreed with parts of the bill, yet when she was offered a compromise, she refused to talk,” the ad says.

As the Seattle Times points out this morning, that’s simply misleading.

Cantwell, in fact, co-authored the bill that first allowed state and local sales-tax deductibility in 2004. That legislation expired this year. In February, Cantwell sponsored a measure to make that deduction permanent. It passed the Senate 75-25 and is still pending in the House.

The bill the ad refers to was the GOP’s cynical “trifecta” legislation, that in addition to extending the sales tax deduction (for only a single year) would have reduced the take-home pay for millions of tip-earning workers while permanently slashing the federal estate tax on our nation’s wealthiest families. And in fact, Sen. Cantwell talked with Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist the night before the vote, but he didn’t offer a compromise that could satisfy her or the American people.

Yet not only doesn’t “Open” Mike!™ regret this ad, he actually defends it.

“She voted against it,” he said, adding that her vote on state sales-tax deductibility will be a major campaign issue.

And you know what? Technically, he’s right.

Even though Sen. Cantwell has long been a champion of the sales tax deduction, ushering it through the Senate in both 2004 and 2006 — and even though the ad deliberately leaves the false impression in voters’ minds that she opposes the deduction — technically, the ad is accurate in stating that she voted against the deduction, this one time.

And so following this high standard of accuracy and civility, I think it is fair to say that technically, Mike!™ McGavick is a stinking drunk.

Oh, Mike!™’s not stinking drunk all the time. I’m sure he tends to wake up sober most mornings, and there are probably occasions when he orders only a club soda or maybe an O’Doul’s, rather than a 12-pack of beer.

But we now know for a fact that on at least one occasion he not only drove drunk, he blew a literally staggering 0.17 percent — a blood alcohol level difficult to achieve with fewer than 8 or 9 drinks over the course of an hour. And when fellow KIRO host Dori Monson accused him of being “stinking drunk,” Mike!™ not only didn’t deny it, he actually admitted that there are still occasions to this day when he is too drunk to drive.

And so if it isn’t misleading to claim that Sen. Cantwell opposes a sales tax deduction she’s long championed, based on a single vote on a bill deliberately and cynically designed to provide fodder for misleading campaign ads (“There’s like 12 30-second ads sitting around in this bill,” one Republican aide told The Hill)… then it certainly can’t be misleading to describe Mike!™ McGavick as a stinking drunk based on the fact that from time to time he gets, well… stinking drunk.

Perhaps I’m being unfair. Perhaps Mike!™ fully intends to live by his civility pledge and set the record straight by apologizing for this ad too (some 18 years in the future.) Or perhaps, we really shouldn’t blame him for approving and defending this misleading ad because, you know… maybe he was just drunk at the time.

But for the moment I’m just going to have to follow his example, for after all, when he’s not fall-down drunk, I’m told that Mike!™’s a real stand-up guy. In fact, he’s downright Socratic.

That’s why I wanna be like Mike!™.

Comments

  1. 1

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    16

    I’ll take Democrat crooks over Republican crooks any day of the week and several times on Sundays. They cost us less.

  2. 3

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    When a Democratic politician steals, he’s very happy to get $75,000 or $300,000. When a Republican steals $300 billion, he wants more.

  3. 4

    Anonymous spews:

    Bullshit by Roger Rabbit: Drinking Liberally meets at Montlake Ale House, as has been posted here weekly for over a year. It’s clear you either can’t read, or choose not to. It’s equally obvious from the drivel you post on HA that you can’t think either, or choose not to.

    Roger: To whom are you addressing this to? It can’t be HowCan. She used satire. You are a moonbatfuck. If you paid attention you’d know this!

  4. 6

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The “Trifecta” bill is just another maul in the GOP tool chest to pound on Democrats with. The GOP really doesn’t want to raise the minimum wage, as was made clear earlier this year when they had a chance to raise it by voting for a clean bill with no poison pills attached. Hell, they don’t want any minimum wage at all. They knew Trifecta would fail, and they floated it just to get campaign propaganda for the fall election. Its failure was intentional on their part.

  5. 7

    rhp6033 spews:

    Pope:

    I mentioned this in a post several days ago, I don’t know if anybody responded.

    But from what I heard from the “experts”, body fat should not be considered ias part of the person’s weight when making the calculations. The argument they made was that fat doesn’t absorb, dilute, or burn alchohol.

    So you need to use your “ideal” weight, after subtracting extra fat you may have accumulated over the years.

  6. 8

    Richard Pope spews:

    Roger Rabbit @ 15

    Criticism accepted. Yes, I did overlook the sarcasm. Goldy actually has a pretty effective argument.

    And my compliments to Another TJ for the beer alcohol composition chart. It does seem like the alcohol content of beer has crept up over the years. Yes, most beers have more than 4.0% alcohol these days. However, the classical “drink” vs. BAC charts are based on a hypothetical 12 ounce, 4% beer.

  7. 9

    Richard Pope spews:

    For Goldy, being 170 lbs and having 58% water, this would result in an ounce of pure alcohol giving him a BAC level of 0.0421%. (Keep in mind that 58% water is average for males. Older males have a lower water percentage, as do overweight males, while bodybuilder have a much higher water percentage)

    Three pints of Manny’s (16 oz at 5.5%) is 2.54 ounces of pure alcohol, so the initial BAC calculation would be 0.107% — above the .08% BAC legal limit. If Goldy burns 0.017% BAC per hour, this would be likely to get him somewhat below the legal limit in three hours — BUT NO GUARANTEES!

    It just isn’t a good idea to drink enough to make yourself legally drunk, while counting on the burnoff rate to get you back under the legal limit. If you have enough to become legally drunk, it will likely affect your judgment. Maybe you will drink more than you planned, or miscalculate how long you have to wait. Or maybe your alcohol metabolism is below average — either because that is the way you are normally, or because of different circumstances that evening.

    And even if you get back below the legal limit, your driving will still be adversely affected and you might get caught anyway. You will still SMELL like a DRUNK to the officer when you have burned off a lot of alcohol. You may be tired by the time you burn off the alcohol, and drive more poorly. The cop will still give you a DUI ticket even if you blow a 0.05 or 0.06 — and you can still be convicted under the “affected by” alcohol provision, even with less than 0.08% BAC. And if you a foolish moment, and refuse the breath test, the refusal can be used against you.

  8. 10

    Richard Pope spews:

    Here is a formula from the U.S. Department of Transportation, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration:

    http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/peopl.....eport.html

    Assuming McGavick is 200 lbs, and a normally built male (58% water), one ounce by volume of pure alcohol would produce 0.0358 grams per 100 milliliters of blood — which is the legal definition of % BAC, and translates into the same number of grams per 210 liters of breath.

    Burnoff rates can vary widely. The median is supposed to be 0.017 per hour, but can range from less than 0.010 per hour to more than 0.040 per hour. McGavick should have an hourly burnoff of 0.475 ounces by volume per hour — roughly the stereotypical “drink” of 12 ounces of 4% beer. (By the way, the liver starts metabolizes alcohol almost immediately — like less than a minute after it enters through the mouth.)

    So it should have taken 4.75 ounces of pure alcohol, plus an additional 0.475 ounces for every hour that McGavick had been drinking to reach a 0.17% BAC level.

    If we assume a three hour period of drinking, that would be 6.175 ounces of pure alcohol. McGavick could have accomplished this with about 6.43 pint 16 oz glasses of 6% beer, or 7.72 pint 16 oz glasses of 5% beer.

  9. 12

    Richard Pope spews:

    Harry Tuttle @ 51

    You’re right — 0.88 X 3 = 2.64, not 2.54. I should have done that one on the calculator, not in my head. So that puts Goldy at 0.111% BAC before burnoff, and not 0.107% BAC.

    However, I don’t see how anyone could possibly burn almost 3.07 ounces of alcohol in just three hours. Actually, if someone had a burnoff rate of 0.04% BAC per hour or higher — and had enough water weight, that would be possible. The NHTSA website I linked to says that some people do. Anything is possible. But the median is 0.017% BAC per hour, and the NHTSA uses a lower figure of 0.012% BAC to be on the safe side.

    But the average person, especially the average woman, will be too drunk to drive after 26.5 oz of 12% wine in three hours.

    Justice Bobbe Bridge, who weighs only about 100 pounds, drank a similar amount of wine, and blew something over a 0.20% BAC.

  10. 13

    rhp6033 spews:

    Hey, I’ve got a simple test for Mike “I’ve Got Mine” McGavick.

    Have him call Sen. Frist, and tell him that it is vitally important to the Washington taxpayers, and to Mikc McGavick personally, that the House adopts the Senate bill previously authored by Cantwell which will make the sales tax deduction permanant. If he is such an effective problem-solver, surely he could convince HIS OWN PARTY to do this, in that it would benefit Sen. Frist’s home state of Tennessee, also.

    After all, he convinced Safeco to pay him 28 million for two months of part-time work! This should be a walk in the park for McGavick, who must be an incredible negotiator.

    Of course, if McGavick doens’t at least make the call, and publically support the bill, then it proves that he really doesn’t care about the Washington taxpayer, and just wants to try to create a misleading campaign issue.

    Let’s see which McGavick shows up.

  11. 14

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    27

    And what the fuck does Noonan think SHE is? Feminine?

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  12. 15

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    My calculations yield 2.64 oz. alcohol for 3 pints of Manny’s.

    The woman who was testing the BAC meter had a 26.5 bottle of wine. At 12% alcohol, typical for white wine, that’s 3.07 pz. of alcohol over a similar time period as Goldy. She came in at 0.03 BAC.

    No matter how many calculations you do, such drinking is unlikely to get one anywhere near .17 BAC. I believe under Washington law, a blood test is required, so by the time that happens, Goldy and the reviewer are being harassed.

  13. 16

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    44

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    … ahhhhhhhh

  14. 17

    Another TJ spews:

    So, what Mike? is saying is that it was wrong to misrepresent Mike Lowry’s positions 18 years ago, but it’s okay to misrepresent Cantwell’s positions today.

    I guess we’ve reached the limit of his character and civility. That didn’t take long.

  15. 18

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Legislation to allow illegal immigrants in California apply for driver’s licenses was resurrected Monday in a weakened version that’s contingent on federal funding. Senate Bill 1162 by Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, was approved by Democrats in the Assembly on a 42-34 vote, a week after Democrats derailed its precursor, fearing a voter backlash in November. The emotionally charged measure still requires confirmation by the state Senate, which passed an earlier version, SB 1160. [………………12 millions illegals, All ready to vote Democrat in California [“Baja Norte”]. Prediction: In 10 years, the “grasshoppers” will have turned California into a Hillary Third World Democrat Shit Hole. The private sector is now turning out their lights.

  16. 21

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS spews:

    Isn’t tonight Drunken Liberally night?

    I wonder how many LIBERAL hating cops will be on the corners surrounding where ever it is the Liberal Lonely Hearts Clubs hangs out.

    Anyone care to bet that LA STUMBLEgoldstein suddenly has another commitment and just can’t seem to make it to Drunken Liberally?

  17. 22

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS spews:

    Hey DAVE! Alert your pals at King County Sheriffs department: Drunken Liberals (just listen to a podcast once for proof) EVERY WEEK at the Montlake Ale House… I’d bet they can bag a Burner too!

  18. 23

    proud leftist spews:

    PROUDtobeINCOHERENT @ 27
    You are in no position to criticize the femininity of another woman. Indeed, if you are actually a woman, I believe that you must have undergone gender reassignment surgery. (That means, as I know you have limited capacity for big words, that you were born a boy but the doctors made you into a girl.) Hillary Clinton is far more feminine than you could ever dream of being.

  19. 24

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Next time McGavick gives a stump speech, that Democratic staffer who follows him around with the video camera should ask McGavick if he would vote against a Republican-sponsored bill to repeal the 13th amendment — and get his response on tape, because I just don’t trust McGavick.

    I can’t tell you exactly why. Maybe it’s his shifty eyes, or his sticky fingers; or maybe it’s because of his lying. Or his drinking. I’m not sure. There’s just something slimy about him.

  20. 25

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS spews:

    I’ll take the Hillary clone over the Bush clone any day of the week, and several times on Sundays. -Commentby Roger Rabbit— 8/29/06@ 12:54 pm

    “Hillary clone”: pefect example of an oxyMORON.

    Best ‘Hillary” quote EVER:

    “Hillary doesn’t have to prove her guy chops. She doesn’t have to prove she’s a man, she has to prove she’s a woman. No one in America thinks she’s a woman. They think she’s a tough little termagant in a pantsuit. They think she’s something
    between an android and a female impersonator.” —Peggy Noonan

    EXACTLY!

  21. 27

    Another TJ spews:

    Maybe 3 cans of 12 ounces Bud at 4% or so will still keep someone under the limit.

    Bud is 5.0% alcohol. Bud Ice is 5.5%. Bud Light is 4.2%. MGD is 5.0%. Miller Lite is 4.2%.

    Sierra Nevada’s Porter, Pale Ale, and Stout are all 5.6 or higher. Henry’s come in at 4.8% for the Private Reserve, 4.2% for the Amber Light, 4.9% for Hefeweizen, 5.1% for the Blond Lager, and 4.6% for the Pale Ale.

    http://www.beer100.com/beercalories.htm

  22. 28

    Anonymous spews:

    Ms Howcan:

    You are right again. If the morons got caught at their own vices, it blows their “morals” apart

  23. 29

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    And these assholes want us to trust their Wall Street buddies with our Social Security benefits?

  24. 30

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    “During the Basketball playoffs, one of my good friends came over to watch the Florida vs. George Mason game with Steve and me. I made buffalo chicken wings and potato salad, and she brought two bottles of wine. Over the next four or so hours we ate, drank, and watched as Florida did their thing. When it was all over Florida had won, the chicken and potato salad were gone, and she and I had finished the two bottles of wine. Even though we had spread our drinking over several hours and even though we were not drinking on empty stomachs I was still feeling a little light headed. Well no wonder, because according to the AlcoHAWK my BAC was 0.03.”

    http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/

    I think this woman has described the kind of drinking that I’ve seen at Drinking Liberally.

  25. 31

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    3

    Geez, Richard, if you’re this fucking dense I might have to reconsider my “lesser evil” endorsement of your candidacy for N.E. District Court and urge HA readers to vote for a write-in candidate (“Roger Rabbit” works fine). Goldy’s comment has nothing to do with drinking, and everything to do with McGavick’s lying, posturing, and false pretensions of being a “moderate” who looks out for average citizens — nothing could be farther from the truth. He’s a very rich guy who is very connected to corporate interests who is out to screw Joe and Jane Lunchbucket.

  26. 32

    Ann Coulter spews:

    I’ll take the Hillary clone over the Bush clone any day of the week, and several times on Sundays.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 8/29/06@ 12:54 pm

    But does she give golden showers to you, Roger, like mine?

    BTW all, Roger won’t be at DL tonight. It’s golden shower night at my house, and Roger is the guest of honor.

  27. 34

    Anonymous spews:

    Proud Leftist: Someone forgot to reinsert your catheter. Anytime someone thinks Hillary is cute is leaking.

  28. 35

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    32

    Trollfucks don’t use satire. They take the Bible literally. They take everything Goldy says literally. Hell, they even take everything George W. Bush says literally. If you told them to jump off a bridge they’d ask, “which bridge?”

  29. 36

    Ann Coulter spews:

    Absolutely right, Ann! I wouldn’t miss a chance to piss on you for the world.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 8/29/06@ 1:15 pm

    No, Roger, you’re the one who gets the showers!

  30. 37

    sgmmac spews:

    Roger,

    You know that’s not correct. If you told me to jump off a bridge, I would tell you “lead the way, after you!”

  31. 38

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    What do cheap labor conservatives really want? Well, we know they don’t want to pay waitresses more than $2.15 an hour, and it’s a safe bet that even if they get their $2.15 minimum wage for tipped employees, they’ll still want to keep the tips for themselves. So, how low do they intend to push wages? How low can wages go?

    Wages can go to zero. (Actually, they can go below zero, which was frequently done in the 19th century through the devices of the “company town” and “company store” which charged more for basic necessities than workers’ wages, with the result that every payday the workers went deeper in the hole.)

    I’m convinced that, although they won’t come out and say so, what cheap labor conservatives really want is the repeal of the 13th amendment and re-legalization of slavery.

  32. 39

    rhp6033 spews:

    Dangit, Roger, you pissed all over the borders, and now they don’t work! Bad Rabbit! Go back to your hole!

  33. 40

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    7

    Drinking Liberally meets at Montlake Ale House, as has been posted here weekly for over a year. It’s clear you either can’t read, or choose not to. It’s equally obvious from the drivel you post on HA that you can’t think either, or choose not to.

  34. 41

    Anonymous spews:

    And we should trust anything to your “asshole” Rabbit? Maybe we should trust our “wealth” to left-wingnuts? Just wondering?

  35. 42

    For the Clueless spews:

    All these wingnuts are “stinking drunks”.

    If not on drunk on alcohol, then drunk on hate.

  36. 43

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    4

    I’ll take the Hillary clone over the Bush clone any day of the week, and several times on Sundays.

  37. 44

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    6

    Is there a point in there somewhere? If so, what is it? Of course, I don’t expect a blockhead like you to “get” Goldy’s comment. I was hoping for a little more from Richard, though.

  38. 45

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    TRENTON, N.J. — Two Republican state lawmakers have filed a federal ethics complaint against Democratic Sen. Robert Menendez over $300,000 in rent he collected from a nonprofit agency for which he helped secure millions in federal dollars. Assemblymen Richard Merkt and Guy Gregg allege that Menendez — who is running against Republican state Sen. Tom Kean Jr. for U.S. Senate — violated conflict-of-interest rules in his dual roles as landlord and lawmaker. [……….Corrupt Democrats? Nooooooooooooooo? Who would have “thunk”??? hehe, JCH]

  39. 47

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    39

    Okay, I’ll look for a suitable bridge. I weigh less than you, and don’t land as hard.

  40. 49

    ArtFart spews:

    I’m not about to throw rocks at Mike?’s drinking in the past and then go knock down a few beers at Drinking Liberally. On the other hand, I have no problem expressing my displeasure with him being a damned LIAR, in addition to a Republican stooge.

  41. 50

    Puddybud Ray Nagin Kennedy spews:

    While tonight at Libs Getting Stinking Drunk, discuss another of Left Turdball’s friends on the left: “Ivy League Professor Caught with Videos That Show Him Having Sex with Children, Feds Say’

    “An Ivy League business school professor is in federal custody for allegedly having videos of himself engaging in sexual acts with children, ABC News has learned.

    Lawrence Scott Ward, 63, Professor Emeritus of Marketing at University of Pennsylvania’s renowned Wharton School of Business, was caught with child pornography in his luggage and on his laptop computer after arriving at Dulles International Airport on a flight from Brazil, according to court documents.

    An affidavit in support of a criminal complaint filed today in federal court in Alexandria says Ward’s luggage was flagged for a more thorough inspection for possible child pornography after a customs officer noticed Ward’s “excessive” trips to Thailand. Federal agents recovered at least three DVDs, in which Ward appears to be “engaging in sexual contact” with children, the affidavit reads. A video of children as young as eight engaged in sexual activity was also allegedly found on Ward’s laptop computer.

    Ward’s resume says he has been a visiting professor at Chulalongkorn University in Thailand. Federal officials believe Thailand to be a well-known destination for so-called “sex tourists” who travel there to exploit minors. Wharton’s website also lists pro bono consulting work in Brazil as one of Ward’s current projects.

    According to published reports, in 1999 Ward was fined $2,500 and sentenced to five years probation on charges of attempting to promote prostitution and corrupt minors. In that case, he entered a plea which allowed him to acknowledge that there was sufficient evidence to convict him, without admitting guilt for those charges.

    Ward’s resume lists several government consulting assignments including work with the Executive Office of the President, the FCC, Department of Commerce and the Special Action Office for Drug Abuse Prevention. Many of his published works deal with the effects of television advertising and marketing on children and adolescents. According to his biography, Ward has been a marketing consultant to many top companies and lists IBM, Microsoft, General Motors, Home Depot, Exxon, Citibank and Johnson & Johnson among his clients. During the 1980s, he hosted a television program, “The Wharton Business Report” on the now defunct Financial News Network. Ward’s biography also states that he was chairman of a foundation that served disadvantaged children with learning disabilities.

    The University of Pennsylvania issued the following statement today, relating to Ward’s arrest, “We have just learned of the arrest of Scott Ward in Virginia. At the present time, we have very few details. We are currently gathering information about the situation and will take appropriate action as soon as we know more.”

    Hey Turdball: I bet a thorough checking will show him as a member of your brother’s organization NAMBLA. Why is it most child molesters are librul? He’s a professor, he’s from a librul IVY League skuul, so he must be a moonbat!

  42. 51

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The people of our state don’t need a U.S. Senator who is a CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVE representing wealthy restaurant chains against waitresses. The corporations can take care of themselves without Mike?s help. Waitresses, on the other hand, need all the help they can get in Washington D.C. — against the likes of Bush, Frist, RubberStampReichert, and The $28 Million Man.

  43. 52

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Washington taxpayers will lose their sales tax deduction because Republicans held it hostage for their CHEAP LABOR assault on watiresses — and we shouldn’t let voters forget it! YES, LET’S MAKE CANTWELL’S VOTE AGAINST CHEAP LABOR BULLYING OF WAITRESSES A CAMPAIGN ISSUE! Mike? McGavick supports cheap labor — except when he’s the labor. Mike?s got his; he gets paid $100,000 an hour by Safeco shareholders — if he bothers to work at all. We can’t afford this guy.

  44. 53

    Ann Coulter spews:

    56

    Hate to tell you, dear, but you’re ugly even in my, er, “wet” dreams.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit— 8/29/06@ 4:28 pm

    Don’t kid yourself, Roger.

    You’re a joke.

    And the biggest joke of all is in your pants!

    HAR HAR HAR!

  45. 55

    spews:

    ArtFart @1,

    The point, of course, is the lying, not the drinking. For all those trolls in the audience who simply don’t get nuance or satire, I’m simply making a moral equivalency argument here, that claiming Cantwell opposes the sales tax deduction based on her vote on that bogus bill is like saying McGavick is an alcoholic based on his single DUI. (Though honestly, there’s a better argument for the latter than for the former.)

  46. 57

    Richard Pope spews:

    Goldy,

    You are still ignoring the fact that most actual “drinks” have far more than the 0.48 ounces of alchohol (12 ounces beer at 4%) that the “drinks” on the alcohol chart are based upon.

    (THIS DOES NOT EXCUSE McGAVICK’s CRIME OF DRIVING DRUNK IN ANY WAY! IF McGAVICK’s BEERS WERE STRONGER THAN NORMAL, HE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THAT INTO ACCOUNT, AND NOT HAD SO MANY — OR NOT HAD ANY AT ALL!)

    Most “drinks” these days contain close to a full ounce of alcohol, if not more. A glass of “beer” is typically 16 to 20 ounces, and at least 5.0% for most imports and microbrews. (Your 16 ounce pint of Manny’s at 5.5% is 0.88 ounces of alcohol, or 1.833 classic “drinks”.) Glasses of wine tend to have far more than 4 ounces of 12% wine. And mixed drinks tend to have far more than 1.2 ounces of 80 proof liquor.

    When you have three pints of Manny’s, you are really pushing the legal limit of 0.08% BAC, even if three full hours elapse from your first drink until the time you leave the bar.

    If someone really believes it took 8 or 9 “drinks” in one hour (or a higher number of “drinks” in a longer period of time) for McGavick to get as drunk as he got when he was arrested in 1993, this could lead to unfortunate decisions on their part.

    For example, if someone thinks it takes 9 “drinks” to get to 0.17% BAC, they might think that only 3 “drinks” wouldn’t be a problem with a 0.08% BAC limit — even if consumed in just one hour. Maybe 3 cans of 12 ounces Bud at 4% or so will still keep someone under the limit.

    But if those 3 “drinks” are pints of Manny’s, someone is looking at a 0.11% BAC or higher. If they happen to be Margaritas, we might be looking at 0.15% BAC or higher — especially if the bartender is “liberal” with the tequila.

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    proud leftist spews:

    Puddybud @ 58
    Your speculation that the arrested professor is a liberal shows how facts never intrude upon your “reasoning” process. The Wharton School is the leading graduate business school in the nation, hardly a hotbed of liberalism. Donald Trump, for instance, went to Wharton. The conservative’s capacity to leap to conclusions in the face of no evidence whatsoever would be amusing if not so dangerous.

  48. 60

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Hmm. My dad had a thyroid problem back in the ‘twenties of the previous century. They did’t really have any effective treatment beyond surgery. . .which was a hit-or-miss proposition. Even after surgery he was quite ‘hyper’. His resting temperature was 99.2 f. In top physical condition he couldn’t get his resting heart-rate much below 84. He said he gave up drinking beer, since it only made him piss more. Whiskey, he said was ‘like pouring kerosene on a fire’, his temp would go up and he would flush, but he was generally too cheap to drink enough to get more than ‘tipsy’. I would have to say he was pretty a-typical.
    Not surprisingly, he was a bit of a tee-totaller, since he spent a lot of time with watching his broters and others drink and act stupid. . .

  49. 61

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    SuckyClownConservative(DarrellF)PudWhacker: Is that your mother, or wife that’s old enough to be you mother?

  50. 62

    For the Clueless spews:

    Dorky Neocon Moron called McGavick a “stinking drunk”?

    Sorry Dorky. We’re not forgiving you. After the contract’s up, go peddle your dorkiness somewhere else.

  51. 63

    howcanyoubePROUDtobeanASS spews:

    poor little Rumblegoldstein… trying to spin straw into gold.

    Twirl, twirly, spin, spin STUMBLEgoldstein… feed your koolaid kids.

  52. 64

    rwb spews:

    you dick head righties can’t hold a candle to Roger’s insight, humor, and fluffines. So stop even trying

  53. 66

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Best of moonbat economic theory:

    Government exists to make private wealth possible.
    Commentby Belltowner— 3/12/06@ 4:15 pm

  54. 68

    Mark The Redneck spews:


    Day 8 August 29, 2006 Where’s Goldy?

    Mayor Nickels’
    unprecedented tax increase proposal
    and
    Tim Eyman’s opposition campaign
    not only screws the taxpayers into paying extra for basic services, but it also really puts Goldy and the rest of you seattle moonbats in a helluva predicament. I’ve been taunting Goldy for some time now with my “Where’s Goldy” series, and he still won’t tell us where he stands. No doubt, he’s between a rock and a hard place trying to figure out what to do. So as a true compassionate conservative, I’ll lay out the options here for ya Goldy:

    1) Open up your wallet and pay more and more property tax every year until you are forced out of your home. Even if you can do it, do you want to make seattle a place where only the rich can live? Or do you not give a fuck about anybody else?

    2) Join Eyman’s campaign to fight defeat the tax increase, and expose yourself to be the fucking hypocrite that you are. Admit that you are wrong about taxpayer rights, and thank Tim in pubic for giving you the right to vote on major policy issues.

    3) Support the tax hike and agree that the tax money has to be raised, but make somebody other than you pay. You could take the tried and true class envy approach and make those “rich people” in Magnolia and Queen Ann pick up the tab. Remember, a “fair tax” in moonbat parlance is a tax that the other guy has to pay.

    4) Or just keep quiet and hope I go away. That’s not gonna happen.


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    proud leftist spews:

    Redneck,
    You never responded to my question last night, so I’ll pose it again:

    Hey Redneck,
    > Tell me what has remained a constant over the past 200 years:
    > 1) The sun; or
    > 2) Carbon emissions into the earth’s atmosphere.
    > When you, allegedly, took your science courses, you plainly skipped
    > the part about science requiring objective, dispassionate inquiry. You, my
    > friend, are an idiot, an idiot who does not mind putting his idiocy on
    > display. You amuse us, and I thank you for that.
    >
    >

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    Mike Forsen spews:

    From Mike’s bio I can see that he is over the age of 21. Therefor there is nothing wrong with his drinking. Sure, the DUI was a miestake he made, but who hasnt made mistakes. I respect Mike’s decision to share this with the people, rather than hide it. From past elections, we have learned that Maria tends to “party occasionally” as well. Its America, they are free to do so.

  57. 71

    Mark The Redneck spews:

    Hey Leftist – Tell me if my SUV caused all the thermal cycles over the past few million years. Tell me if my SUV is also the cause of global warming on fucking mars.

  58. 72

    proud leftist spews:

    Redneck,
    SUV’s that are up on blocks, like yours, have no impact on global warming. You didn’t answer my question. Have at it, smart boy.