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Yeah, where did the War On Christmas (TM) go this year? I think Christmas won.
“Israeli airstrikes heavily pounded central and southern Gaza, crushing buildings on families sheltering inside.”
Say, isn’t southern Gaza where Israel told Gazans to relocate to, so they wouldn’t be in harm’s way? And … FINISH THEM, doc? Is that what you want, more dead civilians? Israel apparently does.
https://www.aol.com/news/egypt-floats-ambitious-plan-end-105201846.html
Is that what you want, more dead civilians?
The freak babbled it’s “ok” with 40k dead women, babies, old men with severed limbs from previous Gaza slaughters… stops “short” of being a genocide.. over halfway there…
Hmmm.. the Nazis killed 6 million Jews.. enough Jews were left over so the survivors and their descendants could form Israel, force Palestinians off their land and kill them if they protested too vehemently. The ethnic cleansing continues today, it’s out of control on the West Bank.
Hmmm.. the Turks killed lots of Armenians. Armenians are still around. Lots of them in this country and there’s still a country that calls itself Armenia..
If you go by kreepshit’s babbling neither of those were a “genocide” either.
Death rains in Gaza.. Celebrations are solemn in Bethlehem. Nothing “merry” about this Christmas.
AFU inflict devastating losses on Russian invaders while much needed aid remains stalled by Russia supporting Republicans.
In the past week Putin’s invading terrorist forces lost a total of five advanced combat aircraft while attempting to strike civilian targets inside Ukraine with massive bunker bombs. Four SU-34 fighter bombers and an SU-30 fighter shot out of the skies over Ukraine in just a single week.
https://youtu.be/-NdIoseN6HM
@4 “Four SU-34 fighter bombers and an SU-30 fighter shot out of the skies over Ukraine in just a single week.”
Good.
@ 1
I think Christmas won.
That’s the pendulum, swinging to the right. It’s got much further to go, and there are many more documents proving The Biden Crime Family’s corruption to drop.
@ 3
over halfway there…
Nah, girlfriend, you need to subtract the dead Hamas. Using Hamas’ claimed figure of total dead and subtracting IDF claims of 8,000 Hamas killed, at most there are 12,000 dead civilians.
Not even a third of the way there. Don’t forget Hamas can surrender any time it wishes.
@6 “there are many more documents proving The Biden Crime Family’s corruption to drop”
Your shop said that about “proof of massive election fraud,” too.
MTG was swatted again today, on Christmas, her 8th swatting since being elected to Congress.
https://www.aol.com/news/police-confirm-swatting-incident-rep-194237052.html
This is reprehensible. As repulsive as she is, nobody should be subjected to this kind of dangerous criminal harassment. It’s not a prank, it’s serious stuff, and I hope they catch the perp and throw his ass in jail.
Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny has been sent to a Siberian gulag. I didn’t know Moscow still had those, but I guess under Putin they do. I wonder if they make him stand naked outside in snowstorms.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/russia-alexei-navalny-putin_n_65898810e4b03e698a14077a
There is no freedom of speech, press, or political opposition in Russia. Trump loves their system and its leader. Putin is very Trumpy. How they do things there should serve as a warning of what life could be like here if the many stupid voters brushing off Trump’s authoritarian impulses elect him to the White House again. Some GOP voters seem wary of Trump, though, so maybe there’s hope.
Related story: Trump’s Xmas cards say “Rot in Hell” (details here).
Who would vote for someone like that? Well, lots of people, sad to say. And we know one of them.
I love the Lincoln Project’s ads, but they’re merely entertaining, as I don’t think they change any minds or votes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-4M85B3HNg
Probably the best thing about them is Trump must know they’re out there, even if he refuses to watch them to see what decent people are saying about him.
Lefties in Rockefeller Center, today.
While Robinhood Dumbfuck Rabbit is blogging Mrs. Dumbfuck Rabbit is dogging.
@12 is HA’s poet laureate showing off his best work …
Get a load of Moscow Mitch’s approval rating:
“A new Monmouth University poll released Monday has revealed Americans’ least favorite leader in Congress, but all maintain underwater approval ratings. According to the poll, just 6% of adults say they approve of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s, R-Ky., job performance, with a whopping 60% saying they disapprove.”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-poll-reveals-america-least-favorite-leader-congress-shocking-single-digit-approval
But Kentucky likes him. Kentucky likes Rand Paul, too. Kentucky is weird.
How Republicans celebrate Christmas:
GOP candidate (and Jan. 6 convict) decorates tree with figurines of Democrats hanging from nooses.
https://www.newsweek.com/gop-hopeful-blasted-post-showing-tree-ornaments-democrats-nooses-1855409
GOP candidate poses in front of Christmas tree with AR-15 equipped with grenade launcher.
https://www.newsweek.com/uvalde-republican-candidate-slammed-holding-gun-christmas-post-1855408
RNC chair Ronna McDaniel posts “Merry Christmas to you and your loved ones!” and the GOP base responds, “Resign!” Hey, season’s cheer!
https://www.newsweek.com/ronna-mcdaniel-hit-wave-resignation-calls-under-christmas-post-1855410
Nasty lot, those Republicans. If Jesus returned they’d probably kick his mother off food stamps and steal the manger.
15,
One of the most wilfully underreported stories of 2023 has been the shocking dissolution of the GOP into factional struggle over who claims access and control over the Dumbfucks like our profoundly stupid troll.
I could not personally care less.
But I always enjoy a good laugh 😂😂😂😂😂.
Iowa Gov Kim Reynolds gave her staff a large pay increase while blocking a min wage increase for low income workers & while denying low income kids free lunch.
I guess this is how Gospel of Prosperity works.
Too bad Christian Republicans can’t make designer handbags and billfolds out of dead poors. It would at least be more efficient.
Watching The Shepherd on Disney +, I love the twist over previous versions of the Fredrick Forsyth Christmas story, the former airfield turned storage depot he lands at instead of the active airfield he thought he was guided to by both the Shepherd and Ground Control Approach, was a ghost town too, not just the pilot. Previous adaptation had nobody on duty at RAF Miriam St George, and he was trying to rationalize tge ghost directing him to Minton. Changed the nationality of the Mosquito pilot, previous versions he was Irish, not Canadian, but I guess it was easier for John Travolta. Wonder if he did his own flying or if that was CGI. I know he’s checked out on 707s and 747s, the Mosquito is its own challenge. The exploits of the title character during the war, deserved the initials VC after his name.
Remember watching a documentary on the Battle of Britain narrated by Ewan McGregor that included a little on the RAF Fighter Command’s training pipeline with his brother learning how to fly the Spitfire. His brother, the former RAF Pilot who flew Tornadoes with 617 Squadron.
@18 “The Few” are down to one.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-67371959
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hemingway_(RAF_officer)
Morning pleasant reminder that the best a never-Trumper can hope for is Nikki Haley splits the GOP in November.
subtracting IDF claims of 8,000 Hamas killed, at most there are 12,000 dead civilians.
Not even a third of the way there.
Translation: IDF propaganda swallowed whole and more piles of the dead to warm kreepshit during the Holidays
Don’t forget Hamas can surrender any time it wishes.
And ignorant of history… The North Koreans and Vietnamese – they didn’t cotton to being carpet bombed so they dug tunnels.. Those who do that don’t see surrender as an option.
And the people suffering and dying from the bombing and the privation (open air prison rations) – those who cling to life know where that comes from. Have known since ’48.
UK Defense Minister releases estimate that 20% of Russia’s Black Sea fleet has been destroyed by AFU since September.
Even with Republicans backing the Orc invaders, and stalling desperately needed arms and medicine shipments, tny Ukraine continues to kick Putin’s ass.
This morning as you read this there are over 600,000 undocumented inside the United States from Canada or Europe.
Why don’t Republicans believe that their presence is “poisoning our blood”?
@ 21
Translation: IDF propaganda swallowed whole and more piles of the dead to warm kreepshit during the Holidays
This from the unserious twat who takes everything Hamas has to say at face value.
Or between adult males holding rocket launchers and pregnant women holding infants.
And ignorant of history… The North Koreans and Vietnamese – they didn’t cotton to being carpet bombed so they dug tunnels..
Queen YLB is unseriously ignorant of geography… The Koreas, combined, are 223,000 sq km. Afganistan’s size is 652,000 sq km. Little Gaza? Only 365 sq km.
We’re not in needle-in-a-haystack territory with Gaza’s tunnels, Queen YLB. But please, go on comparing elephants to hummingbirds. Put on a show for those who don’t yet know how silly a cunt you have always been.
Queen YLB: “But the tunnels!”
In a few months Queen YLB will be reduced to claiming that IDF only found 89% of Hamas’ tunnels, and only killed 80% of the 30,000 Hamas combatants reported to exist before Hamas FAFO’d.
I’ll bet it was an ophthalmologist who realized the optics of this disastrous display in time to keep it from happening.
Imagine what ophthalmologist Rand Paul could have done with it had these POS actually held the event.
None of them give a shit about the real genocides. Somehow this contrived one is different.
There’s a reason, of course.
Sure they are. Donations actually go directly to a Muslim entity run by a Muslim city councilmember in Cambridge, MA. The donated money won’t flow to Gaza, ever. It will go to electing more Muslims who think it’s a good idea to hold anti-Israel protests in Holocaust museums.
I guess I should correct @ 27 because there aren’t any real doctors involved in Doctors Against Genocide. It’s probably just some CAIR assholes pulling the strings behind the curtain while wearing surgical scrubs.
DeSantis is now down -4 to Nikki in the latest Rasmussen poll.
FINISH HIM!!
When Claudine Gay was awarded tenure by Stanford she had only authored four papers.
Pretty thin gruel.
@26 Imagine how Republicans might have reacted to The Event if they had honored their oaths.
@ 28
I had been informed that Rasmussen is unwelcome in these parts.
Heartland/Rasmussen Poll: One-in-Five Mail-In Voters Admit to Committing at Least One Kind of Voter Fraud During 2020 Election
@29 Your gruel flows through these threads like dirty dishwater.
@29 I think we can agree that colleges should focus on real academics and medicine should be practiced by real doctors. So maybe both of you should be retired.
While she was an assistant professor at Stanford, Claudine Gay was asked to share her data, which was published and subsequently came under suspicion.
She refused.
I had been informed that Rasmussen is unwelcome in these parts.
Talking to yourself? Sorry, I can’t help you with that.
Regardless, DeSantis is still down -4 to Nikki in the latest Rasmussen poll..
Must suck.
We’re not in needle-in-a-haystack territory with Gaza’s tunnels,
Only there’s a small catch kreepshit..
people.. millions of prisoners in an open air prison..
starving and consuming filthy water spreading cholera..
IDF has to get through them somehow to the tunnels… and that somehow is by raining bombs on them..
Hope that makes you FEEL GOOOD… It certainly makes you forget what fuck has been going on there since 1948.
@34 WTF has that got to do with you being a dumbfuck Nazi coward who wants to see our Democratic Republic form of government come to end and to be replaced by authoritarian fascist rule with your Orange Jesus as dictator?
GOP reduced to praying to the sky daddy the recessions starts before the Florida Felon Formally Finalizes the nomination
As the Fed cuts interest rates in the coming year and consumers feeling more and more confident in the future and employment low and a steady rise in wages from $24ish to 30ish in the Biden years, the closing argument for the GOP will have to be, “We’ll ban abortion, put those sick sick queers back in the closet and by the way, he’s not a ‘felon’. It’s fake news. Praise Jesus and get him at the forefront of all our laws and institutions.”
None of them give a shit about the real genocides. Somehow this contrived one is different.
Heh. Maybe they should trade wardrope tips with your favorite doc group:
America’s Frontline Doctors..
I recall you were impressed by their white coats.. heh..
only killed 80% of the 30,000 Hamas combatants reported to exist before
Giving up so soon on “FINISH HAMAS”?
Oh excuse me it’s “FINISH THEM”…
Only good person with a funny last name is a dead one for you.. yawwn.. tool…
And among the headwinds the GOP will face in state and National Elections this cycle.
The Brittany Watts story gets worse. This in Ohio, a must win state for them where voters just overwhelmingly told the GOP, “Fuck off with your total abortion ban!”
Ms. Watts, as it turns out went to the hospital due to vaginal bleeding. She was exactly at Ohio’s 22 week ban on abortion. She was told her water had broken and the baby would not survive. But BECAUSE of Doctors and Hospitals not yet being clear about how Ohio is going to treat these conditions they decided NOT to follow the typically decades long accepted AMA medically recommended procedure and induce labor. The baby would likely be stillborn if they did but not guaranteed and then what?
So they sent her home.
Where she miscarried.
She then went back to the hospital where a nurse alerted law enforcement.
And was then charge with desecrating a corpse.
So hear that ladies? If you are so recently pregnant you haven’t told anyone yet because miscarriage in the first 12 weeks is common enough that NOT telling your friends is a thing everyone knows about even though you already have ultrasound images and then one day you miscarry….make sure to save that lump of goo and blood and get it to a mortuary.
No of course your emotional state doesn’t matter.. funeral arrangements. Get on it.
So that’s where Ohio women are. The medical community will not treat you for fear of prosecution. Law enforcement will arrest you if you fail to carry the fetus to term. So it might be in your best interest to never enter a medical facility while pregnant.
More to come of course. Right Texas?
@36 “IDF has to get through them somehow to the tunnels… and that somehow is by raining bombs on them..”
Seems to me bombs would create rubble that blocks access to the tunnels so this is, at best, a stupid way to go about it.
Mass bombing has been tried before. At the end of WW2, when Allied troops entered Germany, they met little resistance and by far the greatest impediment to their advance was the rubble blocking roads and passage through towns and cities from their own bombing. This helped the Soviets reach Berlin first.
And yah, the Germans had tunnels, too. Used them to assemble Me-262s and V-1, V-2 rockets. The bombing didn’t touch them, and those underground factories remained in use until overrun by Allied ground troops — the ones slowed down by bombing rubble.
@41 At least Doctor Dumbfuck had the smarts to get out before they start going after doctors. He probably saw the persecution of trained medical personnel coming before most. The knuckledraggers want you to pray for recovery, buy supplements from Alex Jones, and quinine water from the guy selling Covid remedies out of his Florida garage.
It goes without saying that academic institutions shouldn’t tolerate plagiarism, falsified research, and other forms of academic misconduct. But whether such misconduct was committed should be determined by impartial competent inquiry, not the GOP and Doctor Dumbfuck lynch mobs of the world.
Genocide is erasing a group through a number of means, not just killing. Yes, it is possible to commit the crime of genocide without killing a soul.
For example, almost everyone educated on the subject knows that Putin is committing genocide by declaring that Ukraine is not a real country – it is just Russia so he has done the heinous act of abducting Ukrainian children, relocating them to a place where they are educated about how great it is to be Russian, you’re Russian – feel good about it kids. The kids ask, can I return home? You’re “home” already, what’s the problem? Well, the place I was before this place.. Well, after we’re done with the “special military operation”, and you’re all grown up, you can live anywhere in “Russia” you like because Russia is the best and you’re Russian..
Here in the United States there were various efforts to “assimilate” the Native American population – schools where native children were “re-educated” often resulting in horrific abuse.. Yes, the United States was a settler-colonialist enterprise – like Canada, Australia, South Africa and Israel.
Anyhoo, some analysts quibble over the Gaza atrocity being a “genocide” – it’s just war, they say.. But there seems to be a consensus that the policies of Israel on the West Bank squeezing the Palestinians with sanctioned settler violence and intolerable restrictions – clearly amount to genocide.. 60 percent of the West Bank – Area C is fully Israeli controlled and off limits to Palestinians and the Palestinian enclaves, Areas A and B are rife with restrictions like check points and illegal settlements abound. All of this makes life just about intolerable for the Palestinians.. The nutjob Israelis mutter under their breath – what are you waiting for.. Go home – you have 22 Arab countries – take your pick. God gave us this land.
The worst elements of Israeli settler-colonialists won’t stop until everyone who is not Jewish is forced out – from the river to the sea.
The Gazans are caught between a rock and a hard place. Hamas was derived from the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and their motivation is the rejection of colonialists and “crusaders” from Muslim lands. And yes, evening the score for colonialists and crusaders taking muslim lives. Yes, kids – that shit happened in spades. They had a point. Jews from Europe moving into Palestine and all of a sudden declaring a Jewish homeland was never acceptable to them. Not before ’48 and not now.
Egypt will in no way accept re-settlement of Gazans in the Sinai. The Sinai is where the Muslim Brotherhood is especially active. To Egypt that is adding fuel to the fire.
Bibi and its mad men along with scores of their predecessors seem ok with this slow moving ethnic cleansing. After all their main benefactor, the United States, has to be appeased and keep the flood of arms and money flowing.. The Arab states who cared little for the Palestinians and only opposed Israel to pacify their outraged populations seem eager to let bygones be bygones and open the flood gates to trade and money grubbing. And the nutjob Israeli dream of expelling all those who aren’t Jewish from the river to the sea can’t be realized too quickly – that has always been rife with unintended consequences.
Any thinking person would support the sanctioning of Israel, a clearly apartheid state, like was done to South Africa. The only morally acceptable outcome is a pluralistic democracy with truth and reconciliation to leave the past behind.
@ 44
But whether such misconduct was committed should be determined by impartial competent inquiry…
Should it be done secretly rather transparently?
Should it be farmed out rather than being investigated according to university policy?
’cause Harvard did both, Robinhood Dumbfuck Rabbit.
@ 45
Genocide is erasing a group through a number of means, not just killing. Yes, it is possible to commit the crime of genocide without killing a soul.
In which HA’s Unserious Twat, Queen YLB, acknowledges that IDF is going to eliminate Hamas while killing an astonishingly small relative number of true Palestinian civilians.
Time to move the goal posts, in other words. “Israel is hurting Palestinian morale!”
Such a weak cunt is our precious Queen YLB.
It’s amazing to me that not just unserious twat Queen YLB, but now Robinhood Dumbfuck Rabbit, are comparing tunnels and bomb technology from the middle of the last century to the current IDF/Hamas tunnel warfare.
They are making incredibly weak arguments. The most likely explanation is that IDF is methodically kicking Hamas’ ass, and the likes of Queen YLB and Robinhood Dumbfuck Rabbit are left with little else to complain about.
Q: What’s the difference between IDF and Queen YLB?
A: IDF is kicking Hamas’ ass, while Queen YLB is licking Hamas’ ass.
@ 42
Seems to me bombs would create rubble that blocks access to the tunnels so this is, at best, a stupid way to go about it.
Stupid is, at best, the honest way of describing Queen YLB’s understanding of how IDF is going about eliminating the Hamas tunnel network.
going to eliminate Hamas
impossible.. kill mothers, fathers, children – those who survive don’t forget who killed them.
while killing an astonishingly small relative number of true Palestinian civilians.
It’s hard to know what you get off on more – the delusion that
it’s “small” or the killing…
It’s amusing how much you swallow the “hasbara”…
Stupid is, at best, the honest way
Wow genius.. you’re holding out for the shit water from the kibbutzim to flood out the fighters..
a few hostages are a small price in your small mind..
licking Hamas’ ass.
while you swallow the “hasbara” from fellating Bibi and the IDF..
To Israel and teh kreepshit the solution is simple..
Just march all the Palestinians to the border and say, bye bye Arabs… God gave us this land and never forget it.. “Palestine” never existed and you’re better off for it.
You got 22 Arab states out there. Plenty of room.. Leave and be happy.. Beats being bombed.
They’ve just erased the “Palestinian problem”.. Is this acceptable to kreepshit.. of course it is.. But never call it genocide. That’s not “serious”.. And there was no such thing as Ukraine the country either.
@ 54
You got 22 Arab states out there. Plenty of room..
Name me one Arab state willing to absorb a substantial number of Palestinians. Just one.
Egypt and Jordan are pulling for Israel. If Hamas can be wiped off the political map that’s the best outcome that keeps Palestinians in their current locations. If Hamas regroups outside Israel/Palestinian territories, it means the problems inherent in Hamas society begin to fester elsewhere. Arab states aren’t stupid. Egypt and Jordan already have first-hand experience.
Those 22 Arab states, Queen YLB? None of them stepped up directly to assist Hamas in the war with Israel, and the ones that did so indirectly used the usual suspects to do it. Ineffectively so.
You’re such a fucking silly twat.
Name me one Arab state willing to absorb a substantial number of Palestinians. Just one.
Are you saying Israel is a wonderfully tolerant country that embraces its Palestinian population? No kreepshit it isn’t.. Settler-colonialist means the settlers expel the natives from the land – always has always will.
Egypt and Jordan are pulling for Israel.
Two countries run by corrupt elites that are threatened by their restive Muslim populations.. Wow genius you’re really on to something there.
Well what else.. kreepshit wants the Palestinians to stay put it seems.. So it can watch Israel poke the stick at the open air prisons it’s set up for them.
until the next mass killing.. “mowing the grass”.. best of entertainment for the moldering kreepshits of the world..
@ 56
Egypt and Jordan are pulling for Israel.
Two countries run by corrupt elites…
Two countries with broad shared borders with Israel, and which will be overrun with teeming mobs of children and women who know nothing other than how to rapidly produce even more children. Recall that one of the ways Palestinians were told to harm Israel was to breed, so as to quickly grow the size of The Palestinian Problem.
The leadership of those countries is irrelevant when considering that any leadership won’t want a deluge of functionally useless refugees.
Such a silly fucking twat is our precious Queen YLB.
@ 56, redux:
Settler-colonialist means the settlers expel the natives from the land – always has always will.
Arafat was offered 95% of the West Bank and 100% of the Gaza strip in a peace negotiation with Barak. Arafat chose intifada instead.
Israel expelled settlers from Gazan land prior to leaving Gaza to the Palestinians, who then elected Hamas to run it.
The Palestinians will never see such a generous offer from Israel ever again. They have only themselves and their leadership to blame, Queen YLB.
Recall that one of the ways Palestinians were told to harm Israel was to breed, so as to quickly grow the size of The Palestinian Problem.
LMAO.. Heh.. kreepshit didja know that Palestinians are NOT the only “less thans” that Israelis can’t handle making babies:
https://www.geneticsandsociety.org/biopolitical-times/israel-admits-targeting-ethiopian-jews-compulsory-contraception
If only Jewish Israelis could just stop being distracted living in a bubble dancing at “joy festivals” yards away from the open air prison in Gaza and just make more babies and those self-hating Jews who live in the United States and elsewhere would just “come home” and make babies in Israel.
@46
The ancient and secret cabal of Private University academic integrity boards is SO a winning argument for the GOP
They should hold more hearings.
When I get up in the morning and have my coffee I often wonder about if an academic may have lifted a piece of a paper and failed to attribute the source. On the commute I’m really hoping someone on the radio will tell me the definition of plagiarism. Sometime around lunch I think about Harvard again. Right before bed I Google what a University President actually does and if published research papers is a big part of it.
Tomorrow I’ll do it again.
In between trying to remember what the price of eggs was 18 months ago.
@ 59
What Queen YLB leaves out – and likely does not understand – is that those women were Ethiopian Jews who had been brought to Israel by Israel, and were assimilated into Israeli society.
It’s really not possible to envision that happening with Palestinian women – ever. Why, Queen YLB might wonder? Because it’s not possible to envision Muslim men permitting it to happen.
The leadership of those countries is irrelevant when considering that any leadership won’t want a deluge of functionally useless refugees.
I never said those countries wanted refugees, you fucking dumbass.
I was saying that Israel wants them to “go away”. Even the left wing Israelis who nominally support a two state solution wants them on the “other side” of a line. Have they ever supported a refugee’s “right of return” – by and large NO… Israel, to both the left and right, has to remain a jewish apartheid state.
Here’s Benny Morris on 22 Arab states:
“Remember another thing: the Arab people gained a large slice of the planet. Not thanks to its skills or its great virtues, but because it conquered and murdered and forced those it conquered to convert during many generations. But in the end the Arabs have 22 states. The Jewish people did not have even one state. There was no reason in the world why it should not have one state. Therefore, from my point of view, the need to establish this state in this place overcame the injustice that was done to the Palestinians by uprooting them.”
And morally speaking, you have no problem with that deed?
“That is correct. Even the great American democracy could not have been created without the annihilation of the Indians. There are cases in which the overall, final good justifies harsh and cruel acts that are committed in the course of history.
Arafat was offered 95% of the West Bank and 100% of the Gaza strip in a peace negotiation with Barak. Arafat chose intifada instead.
Total myth.. Arafat was no angel but that “choice” is propaganda as well..
Although some people describe Israel’s Camp David proposal as practically a return to the 1967 borders, it was far from that. Under the plan, Israel would have withdrawn completely from the small Gaza Strip. But it would annex strategically important and highly valuable sections of the West Bank—while retaining “security control” over other parts—that would have made it impossible for the Palestinians to travel or trade freely within their own state without the permission of the Israeli government (Political Science Quarterly, 6/22/01; New York Times, 7/26/01; Report on Israeli Settlement in the Occupied Territories, 9–10/00; Robert Malley, New York Review of Books, 8/9/01).
https://fair.org/home/the-myth-of-the-generous-offer/
Swallow harder..
@46 Whatever Harvard’s process was is still superior to your process. Harvard: Arguably flawed. Doctor Dumbfuck: Guilty without hearing.
@47 “while killing an astonishingly small relative number of true Palestinian civilians”
IDF claims **only** 2 innocent civilians for every militant. We probably can take that as a minimum; it’s likely higher. To you, that’s “astonishingly small.” For the Palestinian mother holding her dead children in her arms, it’s astonishingly large.
@50 I don’t know about him or you, but I’m going by photos of Gaza.
@55 “Name me one Arab state willing to absorb a substantial number of Palestinians. Just one.”
That’s the point, isn’t it? They have nowhere to go. And after Israeli settlers take all their land, they’ll still have nowhere to go. So what do Israeli’s want them to do? Asked and answered here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rw5MosKRm4
Except Israelis won’t come right out and say it, so it has to be inferred from their actions. But it sure looks like genocide.
Ethiopian Jews who had been brought to Israel by Israel, and were assimilated into Israeli society.
Yeah, “kinder and gentler” settler colonialists are big into “assimilation” – the skin might be too dark now be we can always lighten it over time with miscegenation and re-education like with the natives in the U.S…
this contraception regime led to a decrease in the Ethiopian community’s fertility rate are similarly difficult to validate.
So it DID exist.. “difficult to validate” – well that’s a hedge.. (rolls eyes)..
but rather the product of urbanization, improved educational opportunities, a later age of marriage and commencement of childbirth and an earlier age of cessation of childbearing
So this apology just fobs it off to “the western disease” so distracted by living high on the hog, they forget to breed.. (rolls eyes).
@ 64
Arafat was no angel but…
No kidding.
Dennis Ross on NPR two months ago:
Dennis Roth was Clinton’s guy in the room, Queen YLB. You used to like Clinton. Now you think his people are liars?
Dennis Roth [sick] was Clinton’s guy in the room..
His account.. looks to me a white wash of a clearly lousy deal that failed..
You used to like Clinton. Now you think his people are liars?
All politicians lie.. Some lies more egregious than others. Are you saying you didn’t know that? What a dumbass you are.. thanks for playing.
Because it’s not possible to envision Muslim men permitting it to happen.
Did Mel Gibson believe in contraception? How many kids did he have? At least 6..
yawwn.. idiot…
You used to like Clinton.
I liked how the economy during his time twisted repukes into knots.
He survived the nutjobs like Gingrich and Dan Burton.. both raging sex addict hypocrites.. little comfort given the empty warmongering suit that succeeded him.
The colonizer mindset.
‘This is ours now. No we don’t give a fuck if you have a deed to the property or if you’ve just been here for ten generations. Move in with someone else.”
More colonizer mindset.
We already took 78% of your territory, fuck the UN for calling that illegal and not only are we not giving any part of it back, we’re going to annex a little more. By the way, we don’t agree to your definition of the green line so we’re going to say ALL that disputed territory belongs to us but you can have MOST of the rest. (See where your myth falls apart Dumbfuck?)
There’s a bit of pop culture moment right now. “Well I know we ‘reserved’ this piece of land for you but we found oil so…we’re gonna ‘manage’ it for you.”
A repuke lives to fight another day:
An appeals court on Tuesday reversed a conviction that led to the resignation last year of former congressman Jeff Fortenberry (R-Neb.), ruling that he was not tried in the right venue on charges of lying to federal agents about illegal campaign contributions from a foreign billionaire.
The decision by the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit said that Fortenberry’s trial in Los Angeles “took place in a state where no charged crime was committed, and before a jury drawn from the vicinage of the federal agencies that investigated the defendant.”
“The Constitution does not permit this,” the decision said. “Fortenberry’s convictions are reversed so that he may be retried, if at all, in a proper venue.”
In a statement through his attorneys, Fortenberry said he was “gratified” by the decision.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/12/26/jeff-fortenberry-conviction-overturned/
“gratified”.. So much for “the nutty ninth”… The repuke can be retried in the place where he broke the law.
@75 I think the big question hanging over this is, if Arafat had taken the deal, would Israel have honored it, or kept mistreating Palestinians and taking their land?
Maybe the right question to ask is whether there was any scenarios under which Israel wouldn’t take Palestinian land. Words on paper don’t mean anything by themselves. The reality is, if they could, they would, no matter what the words say.
You know, like respecting Palestinian land deeds: “We don’t, because we don’t have to.” It’s the cops, not his land deed, that keeps squatters from setting up tent camps on Doctor Dumbfuck’s five acres.
What the West Bank needs, and doesn’t have, is outside cops. That’s why Israel does whatever it wants there.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatLookedExpensive/comments/18rn4em/spacex_falcon_9_booster_tipped_over_in_rough_seas/