McGavick: the poor never had it so good

Why is Mike McGavick running for the US Senate? Well, if you believe Mike McGavick, it was Hurricane Katrina that steeled his resolve to run.

In a rather odd audio clip available from McGavick’s web site, the candidate talks about Katrina, and the “the one image that cements it for my wife and I of why to run for the United States Senate.” No, it’s not the desperate refugees at the Superdome or the bloated bodies floating in the streets, and it’s not New Orlean’s poor trapped in the muck of their flooded city for days without food or fresh water. It was the politicians on TV attempting to exploit the disaster for “partisan advantage” that he and his wife were “most offended by.”

“That is wrong as wrong can be,” McGavick angrily told his audience.

Hmm. Perhaps that anecdote was just unartfully phrased, but it seemed to lack a certain, gee, I dunno… compassion. Of all the things to be offended by while watching our federal government fail to adequately respond to the desperate plight of the poor and displaced, political partisanship did not top the list.

(Indeed, I would argue that when the party in power so totally fucks up as to put lives at risk, it would be negligent of the opposition not to seek partisan advantage in an effort to seize control. But no, I suppose McGavick would have preferred the nation to rally around the president during our time of crisis the way we did in the aftermath of 9/11… the same sort of blind following the blind that ultimately led to our disastrous war in Iraq. But I digress.)

So. What kind of man could watch the tragically bungled emergency response that resulted from the dismantling of FEMA under President Bush, and conclude that our most urgent problem was not the incompetence of the current administration, but rather the political partisanship of those complaining about the incompetence? Well, a man who has little or no empathy for the suffering of others, and who is totally out of touch with the plight of America’s underclass, I guess.

As harsh as that conclusion might be, it is further reinforced by a comment McGavick made on Wednesday before the Bellingham City Club, in which he talks about the “comfortable lifestyle” of America’s poor:

“While the spectrum of wealth, from the wealthiest to the non-wealthy has become wider, it’s not true that all boats aren’t being lifted. The fact is that it is still better to be poor in America than any other nation on Earth. Because the fact is that we are able to provide a comfortable lifestyle across that spectrum.”

Uh-huh. The poor never had it so good. And you know McGavick knows what he’s talking about because until recently, he spent most of his life being poor himself… that is, if your definition of being “poor” is not having $28 million.

Kind of reminds me of an equally clueless comment made by the President’s mother after surveying Katrina refugees in an emergency shelter set up at the Houston Astrodome:

“And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this–this (she chuckles slightly) is working very well for them.”

I guess those are the types of lessons people like McGavick take away from disasters like Hurricane Katrina.

UPDATE:
In the comment thread Darryl blows a hole in my theory, pointing out that Katrina couldn’t really have been McGavick’s primary motivation, as he announced his intention to quit Safeco and explore a run for Senate over a month before Katrina hit. But then, I guess that’s what I get for believing Mike McGavick.

Comments

  1. 3

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Clueless: You cut and paste other people’s mediocre posts so I can use your “Karma” against you. I went back into the archives of Goldie and found some precious posts between you and Puddy.

    They are a hoot. Thanks for the laughs Clueless! You are the Running Man!

  2. 4

    rhp6033 spews:

    I don’t have to buy any guns. My friends, family, and neighbors have more than they need.

    One Thanksgiving, a friend invited us to all go out and “plink” some cans down at the quarry. We went down to his house, and he and his brother went inside. They came out with both arms filled to overflowing with rifles and shotguns of just about every manufacture. They even had a Russian SKS (semi-automatic) and a couple of black-powder muzzel-loaders.

    They dumped all those guns into our arms, saying… “Put these in the back of the truck, while we go back for the rest!”

    These guys were ardent Rush Limbaugh conservatives, until they saw how much the Repubicans were screwing up the economy. There’s nothing quite so angry as a blue-collar Scots-Irish working man who just found out that somebody is stealing his hard-earned money and giving it to rich folks who don’t work for a living.

  3. 5

    Daddy Love spews:

    92 Anony

    I don’t know. Do you know why hateful conservative fuckers mock people with Parkinson’s?

    (Note: don’t call them “victims.” To quote Michael J. Fox, “…We don’t want pity. I could give a damn about Rush Limbaugh’s pity or anyone else’s pity. I’m not a victim. I’m someone who is in this situation.”)

  4. 6

    Another TJ spews:

    You didn’t watch the ad, did you, you hateful little fucker? Why do hateful liberal fuckers mock multiple sclerosis victims? Awwww does that victim not suit your purpose?

    I didn’t have to watch the ad to see that it went to Michael Steele’s website. It doesn’t change the fact that Steele is a liar and an idiot. Also, if you could point out where I mocked someone for having MS, I would be interested in seeing it.

  5. 7

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    The “our poor are the richest on earth” ploy really fits well with the typical boorishness of the radical right. Shut up and be thankful that you aren’t in Somalia, seems to be the Republican attitute toward poor people.

    I dunno though. If your teeth are bad and your diet sucks, having a Tv and Nikes doesn’t seem all that wonderful. Better to be in Cuba.

  6. 8

    proud leftist spews:

    RR
    If armed insurrection from the left becomes necessary, what arms would you suggest a guy should have?

  7. 10

    Anonymous spews:

    10 MWS

    So Macaca Allen doesn’t like fiction? Funny, but his whole LIFE is fiction. He runs away from his Jewish mother, he runs away from his Confederate flags, nooses, and racist gutter language. He’s a bully, which means he’s a coward. He runs away and runs away and runs away and runs away from his race-baiting past but he can’t escape it. The voters of Virginia aren’t fooled.

  8. 12

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    I’ve completely given up on addressing him. In fact I rarely even read his posts anymore. They’re just not worth my time. If others want to, knock yourselves out; no offense intended. I just can’t deal with that level of willful stupidity. Commentby Another TJ— 10/27/06@ 9:24 am

    You are so full of shit it rises over your head. Your level of moonbattiness is only surpassed by Daddy Appeaser Love!

    If Librul MSM Salon turns ou off then I guess I need to prove my point by going more loony lefty? You can’t go more left than Camille Paglia moonbat ATJ!

  9. 14

    rhp6033 spews:

    Mike McGavick is upset. Cantwell is accusing him of wanting to privatise Social Security. Mike is upset because people don’t want their social security to be privatized. They know its just another scheme to squeeze some more money away from them and into the pockets of the big wall street firms that finance McGavick and other Republican party leaders.

    So to Mike, the problem isn’t that he’s against privatization. He’s for it. He just dosn’t you to know that. So he calls it something else.

    Anybody else notice how upset he gets when people don’t follow along with his prevarications? He must be used to a bunch of yes-men and toadies who agree with everything he says. He just can’t handle it when people don’t automatically respect him and take his word for whatever he claims to be the trueth. Can you imagine him actually having to respond to the public and the media?

  10. 16

    The Socialist spews:

    I kind of get the feeling mike shouldn’t be alowed near any shape objects let alone congress :-(

  11. 18

    Anonymous spews:

    The link goes to the Michael Steele website. Thanks for the link. It reminds me that Michael Steele is a liar. He’s also an idiot.

    Commentby Another TJ— 10/27/06@ 10:36 am

    You didn’t watch the ad, did you, you hateful little fucker? Why do hateful liberal fuckers mock multiple sclerosis victims? Awwww does that victim not suit your purpose?

  12. 19

    George Johnston spews:

    A Republican inspired by Hurricane Katrina? What???? Did he want to learn guitar?

  13. 20

    Daddy Love spews:

    Can Bush BE any stupider? It’s clear at this point that he regards leaving Iraq as losing. And in his simple, stupid mind, that means that the reverse MUST be true: staying is winning. No matter how deep in the shit we get, no matter how high the body counts soar, no matter how hot the civil war gets, nop matter how weak the central government becomes or how many legislators and executives die or leave the country (and many, many have done so), if we’re staying, we’re winning. And we have two more years of this freak?

    Better put some Democrats in Congress.

    I posted 17, 18, 20, and 23.

  14. 21

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    No wonder Mike’s getting his ass kicked in the polls. This fraud of a human being couldn’t care less about anyone other than himself. Even my right wing inlaws can spot this asshole as a phoney.

    This is the best the GOP can do?

    Can you say TIDAL WAVE?

    Man I can’t wait for the next few days to get over with so we can start our plan to remove these crooks from power.

  15. 22

    For the Clueless spews:

    That lying, drunk, job-destroying greedhead!

    How can anyone even think of throwing the lever for this thief?

  16. 23

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Daddy Love: The reason I hate polls is the pollers never do their job. Take NJ for instance:

    http://nj.gov/lps/newsreleases06/pr20060526a.html

    “The updated, pre-primary voter registration total reflects a 20,023 increase in the number of registered voters in New Jersey compared with the pre-primary voter registration total for 2005. Of those currently registered to vote: 1,137,312 persons are declared Democrat, 878,906 are declared Republican, and 2,820,183 are unaffiliated. There are also 735 registered Green Party voters, 519 Libertarian Party voters, 50 Natural Law Party registrants, 106 Reform Party voters, and 132 U.S. Constitution Party registrants. ”

    Republicans: 18.2%
    Democrats: 23.5%
    Unaffiliated: 58.3% – That is hilarous as we know they love the criminal element in NJ!

    So when the latest NYT – CBS Poll in NJ for the Kean – Menendez race has some strange numbers: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10.....38;emc=rss

    Republicans 22%
    Democrats 35%
    Independents 35%

    You and JDB of all people love to place polls to “make” your worthless points. Thinkers like me look at the data and see how the poll is skewed toward donk because in some cases the race is a complete flip from the crap you post!

    So go ahead and use that worn out line of cut and paste. No moonbats I look at the story and start digging.

    Proud Leftist – you are IDIOT too! You are the PIMPLY faced geek moonbat!

  17. 26

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    As a citizen who was horrified by the Bush administration’s inept mismanagement of Katrina emergency response, and offended by Republicans’ callous and hostile indifference to the victims’ plight, I’m one of those McGavick is angry at.

    Why should I vote for someone who’s mad at me? Do I want to be represented in the U.S. Senate by a politician who hates me?

    HELL NO!!!

    What part of “hell no” don’t you wingfuck fascists understand?

  18. 27

    Another TJ spews:

    Of course, one could also point out that McGavick announced he was leaving Safeco on July 19th, some one month before Katrina hit.

    You don’t understand, Darryl. Mike?’s vision for America is so powerful he could see the terrible effects of partisan bickering in the aftermath of Katrina before the hurricane ever formed in the Atlantic. Mike? is a different kind of politician.

  19. 28

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Get bumper sticker while they last!

    “McGavick – He’s the problem, not the solution”

  20. 29

    Daddy Love spews:

    RUFUS

    You have pretty loose definitions for “Clinton Machine” and “friends and associates.” Bilge.

    And I love that “accused of” and “reported in the media” is the bar. The Clinton presidency is when the Republican party prefected its methods (link to a good example of how it works in another context) for floating scurrilous lies to some willing or dumb single obscure outlet, fitering it upward through Drudge and other sites “picking it up,” then having the conservative-owned media report the allegation straight, without examining it for any factual basis. Brilliant and slimy to the nth degree. The freakiest and least believable stuff got “reported in the media” at that time, and it had nothing to do with any basis in fact.

    It seems the sequence is Obscure news story -> Drudge -> O’Reilly/Hannity/Rush, et al -> Washington Times/New York Post -> Fox News -> Mainstream Media.

    Blather, rinse, repeat.

  21. 30

    For the Clueless spews:

    Didn’t someone accuse you of lacking Karma?

    Thanks for the laugh WOS (or is it Puddybud?). Speaking of karma how about some more of that Gorelick wall bullshit?

    I’d dig into some more of those wingnut myths you swallow and spew on cue here but life is too short.

    I’ll settle for what’s coming in November. Tidal wave or mixed bag – it’ll be a lot of fun to see you twist in the wind!

  22. 31

    rhp6033 spews:

    Last night, I came home late from a business dinner. My wife was watching TV. As I got ready for bed, here comes somebody on TV with a whiney voice ranting and raving about something or other. At first I thought it was one of those crazy used car commercials, or somebody trying to sell the newest kitchen gadget or exercise machine.

    But no!!!! It was Mike “I’ve Got Mine” McGavick, ranting on and on about how he never said he wanted to privatise Social Security! He had to use an entire 30 second commercial that was nothing but him saying “I never said privatise! I never said privatise!” and calling Cantwell a liar.

    But I remember Robert Mack’s interview with him, where he denied that he wanted to privatise social security, but then said he wanted to create a new federal agency which would decide which private investment firms would handle a portion of each person’s social security account. Sounds like privatization to me. If it looks like a skunk, and smells like a skunk….

    I think Cantwell should use some of the rest of her money on this one issue. It should put the final nail in McGavick’s coffin. Show a clip of him ranting and raving. Then show him trying to explain his policy to Robert Mak. Then point out that McGavick wants to “save” our social security system by creating an entirely new agency which will select wall street investment firms to handle some of our social security money, for a price. Ask the viewers to decide for themselves if that isn’t privatization.

    Also ask seniors if they think their future benefits should be reduced to pay for the administrative expenses of yet another federal agency who’s sole purpose is to give away social security money to wall street investment firms?

  23. 32

    Daddy Love spews:

    From Richard Viguerie. Richard Viguerie is commonly considered the father of direct mail marketing. He is one of “the” gurus of the entire conservative movement, going back decades.

    “Trying to frighten conservatives by yelling ‘Nancy Pelosi’ and ‘Harry Reid’ won’t work this time.”

    Someone should tell HA posters. Well, I guess I just did.

  24. 33

    Daddy Love spews:

    Hey, how sick is that conservative criticism of Michael J. Fox? How fucking sick is that?

  25. 34

    Daddy Love spews:

    48 ANony

    So the types of stem cell research that are NOT hampered by law, harassed by conservatives, and are eligible for federal funding are making progress, while the types of stem cell research that are denied federal funding or are dependent on the deceitful president’s falsely claimed “sixty” stem cell lines (actually fifteen) is languishing? Funny how that works.

    Wikipedia does not agree with you on the anbsence of fetal stem cell progress, however. Examples:

    According to the October 7, 2005 issue of The Week, University of California researchers injected stem cells from aborted human fetuses into paralyzed mice, which resulted in the mice regaining the ability to move and walk four months later. The researchers discovered upon dissecting the mice that the stem cells regenerated not only the neurons, but also the cells of the myelin sheath, a layer of cells with which nerve fibers communicate with the brain (damage to which is often the cause of neurological injury in humans). [7]

    In January 2005, researchers at the University of Wisconsin-Madison differentiated human blastocyst stem cells into neural stem cells, then into the beginnings of motor neurons, and finally into spinal motor neuron cells, the cell type that, in the human body, transmits messages from the brain to the spinal cord. The newly generated motor neurons exhibited electrical activity, the signature action of neurons. Lead researcher Su-Chun Zhang described the process as “you need to teach the blastocyst stem cells to change step by step, where each step has different conditions and a strict window of time.”

  26. 35

    The Socialist spews:

    Mike McGavick really looks like a real jerk in the new commercials
    I have seen on TV.

    He kind of look’s sort of unhinged a little bit.

  27. 37

    Daddy Love spews:

    13 Reasons to vote Democratic on Nov. 7

    Iraq
    Iraq
    Iraq
    Iraq
    Iraq
    Iraq
    Iraq
    Iraq
    Iraq
    Iraq
    Iraq
    Iraq
    Iraq

  28. 38

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    There’s still 2 weeks to go before the election! Maybe McGavick can pull a chestnut out of the fire and still get his vote under 30%! Sure looks like he’s pulling out the stops and going for broke! Hell, maybe even 15% is possible!

    Roger Rabbit Prediction

    Maria Cantwell 72%
    Mickey Mouse 11%
    Goofy 9%
    Mike?! McGavick 6%*
    Other 2%

    * I know 6% for McGavick?! sounds far-fetched, and I may be overreaching, but even Low Tax Looper got 4% — and McGavick hasn’t murdered his opponent yet. Do I really think there’s 6% who are actually this stupid? Yes, I’m afraid so.

  29. 40

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Speaking of insensitive louts …

    “NEW YORK (Oct. 27) – In a response to charges by conservative talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, Michael J. Fox defended his appearance in recent political campaign ads, saying he was neither acting nor off his medication for Parkinson’s disease. …

    “The ads triggered a backlash, with radio commentator Limbaugh claiming during his broadcast that Fox was ‘either off his medication or acting.’ Limbaugh called Fox ‘really shameless’ in his effort to stir up sympathy. …

    “Fox told Couric that he did the ads only to advance his cause, and that he doesn’t care about politics. ‘Disease is a nonpartisan problem that requires a bipartisan solution,’ he said.”

    http://tinyurl.com/ych6hb

    As someone who gobbles pain pills like candy, Limbaugh ought to be more empathetic and understanding. It’s gotta be a character problem! Somebody should take Rush behind the barn and put him out of his misery — hey, just kidding …

  30. 42

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    9

    MWS: So what you’re saying about the polls is, “There’s no problem here that Diebold can’t fix?”

  31. 45

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I wonder what ever possessed the Washington State Republicans to run this guy for Senate. They must’ve had another Craswell Moment.

  32. 46

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Mike?!’s complaint about “partisan bickering” sounds like partisan bickering to me.

  33. 47

    Loloc spews:

    I have to agree with George. I’d way rather read about eye problems and rimming lesbians than read some clueless rightie spout bile.

  34. 48

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    We’re getting word that Puddybutt is a rapist. Figures. Solid republican values.

    Commentby LauraBushKilledAGuy— 10/26/06@ 10:39 pm

    Puddy is not running as the democrat nominee for President. I dont believe it.

  35. 49

    me spews:

    “Shut up and be thankful that you aren’t in Somalia” Give the Republicans a couple more years and America will look just like Somalia.

  36. 50

    For the Clueless spews:

    The R’s in this state swing between religious nuts (Craswell) and greedheads (Rossi, McGreedvick) who jackboot to the call of the BIAW.

    There’s very few civic-minded centrists like Dan Evans left.

  37. 51

    Another TJ spews:

    As someone who gobbles pain pills like candy, Limbaugh ought to be more empathetic and understanding.

    I don’t remember who said it first, but I’m stealing it: Lush didn’t realize that not everyone shakes uncontrollably when they stop taking their drugs.

  38. 52

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Just to show you how bad things are for Gopers:

    “Frist Tells GOP Hopefuls Not to Stress Iraq
    “AP
    “CONCORD, N.H. (Oct. 25) – Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist says if Republican candidates want to succeed on Election Day, they should turn their focus away from the Iraq war.

    “‘The challenge is to get Americans to focus on pocketbook issues, and not on the Iraq and terror issue,’ Frist said in an interview with the Concord Monitor on Tuesday.”

    http://tinyurl.com/y73xrq

    Just last month, people like Rove and Mehlman said the GOP was gonna campaign on … Iraq and terror. (pause) Sure seems like a long time ago.

  39. 53

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    53

    Reads more like 13 reasons to vote Democrat on Nov. 7 — after you read the fine print.

  40. 54

    George Johnston spews:

    The great thing about the spam bots is they dilute your Republican trolls spewing filth and lies.

  41. 55

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I have a feeling campaigning on “pocketbook issues” won’t work for them either:

    “When you cut right through it, right-wing ideology is just ‘dime-store economics’ – intended to dress their ideology up and make it look respectable. You don’t really need to know much about economics to understand it. They certainly don’t. It all gets down to two simple words. ‘Cheap labor’.”

    http://tinyurl.com/lnzs3

  42. 56

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    28

    Those lies are nothing. Here is corruption at work:

    1. CLINTON MACHINE CRIMES
    FOR WHICH CONVICTIONS
    HAVE BEEN OBTAINED
    Drug trafficking (3), racketeering, extortion, bribery (4), tax evasion, kickbacks, embezzlement (2), fraud (12), conspiracy (5), fraudulent loans, illegal gifts (1), illegal campaign contributions (5), money laundering (6), perjury, obstruction of justice.
    1. CRIME STATS
    – Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47
    – Number of these convictions during Clinton’s presidency: 33
    – Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61
    – Number of congressional witnesses who have pleaded the Fifth Amendment, fled the country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 122
    Number of Starr-Ray investigation convictions or guilty pleas (including one governor, one associate attorney general and two Clinton business partners): 14
    – Number of Clinton Cabinet members who came under criminal investigation: 5
    – Number of Reagan cabinet members who came under criminal investigation: 4
    – Number of top officials jailed in the Teapot Dome Scandal: 3

    The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
    – Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
    – Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
    – Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
    – Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
    – First president sued for sexual harassment.
    – First president accused of rape.
    – First first lady to come under criminal investigation
    – Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
    – First president to establish a legal defense fund.
    – First president to be held in contempt of court
    – Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
    – Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
    – First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court
    1. OTHER MATTERS INVESTIGATED BY SPECIAL PROSECUTORS
    AND CONGRESS, OR REPORTED IN THE MEDIA
    Bank and mail fraud, violations of campaign finance laws, illegal foreign campaign funding, improper exports of sensitive technology, physical violence and threats of violence, solicitation of perjury, intimidation of witnesses, bribery of witnesses, attempted intimidation of prosecutors, perjury before congressional committees, lying in statements to federal investigators and regulatory officials, flight of witnesses, obstruction of justice, bribery of cabinet members, real estate fraud, tax fraud, drug trafficking, failure to investigate drug trafficking, bribery of state officials, use of state police for personal purposes, exchange of promotions or benefits for sexual favors, using state police to provide false court testimony, laundering of drug money through a state agency, false reports by medical examiners and others investigating suspicious deaths, the firing of the RTC and FBI director when these agencies were investigating Clinton and his associates, failure to conduct autopsies in suspicious deaths, providing jobs in return for silence by witnesses, drug abuse, improper acquisition and use of 900 FBI files, improper futures trading, murder, sexual abuse of employees, false testimony before a federal judge, shredding of documents, withholding and concealment of subpoenaed documents, fabricated charges against (and improper firing of) White House employees, inviting drug traffickers, foreign agents and participants in organized crime to the White House.

    Your democrats at work.

  43. 57

    The Socialist spews:

    93#

    Yupe i use to lean republican untill they came to power in 94 and the very first thing they did was attack big bird and public TV.

    Then I relized there were just full of crap I have been a Liberal ever sense

  44. 58

    Daddy Love spews:

    For the past five years, Democrats have seemed more or less vulnerable on national security issues. Bush and the Republicans projected a clear image of taking the war to the enemy, and never yielding in their drive to defeat radical “Islamists.” However, recent events (dare I say “reality?”) have reversed this phenomenon. Now that Bush has admitted outright that “stay the course” is no longer the correct policy, he’s also admitting that the Republican position is, well, wrong. Now that this is the case, Republicans are forced to offer alternatives, which of course contain some elements such as milestones, performance benchmarks, “timetables” (we never said “timetables!”) or whatever.

    Politically, it looks like the GOP is adopting the Democratic position. The mainstream media has run plenty of stories about the morass of dsaster in Iraq and the administration’s sputtering about “change,” but who in the press has acknowledged that the administration is adopting the Democratic position from last year? Strip away the tortured semantics of “no timetable” and it’s the Pelosi/Reid plan they sent in a letter to the president.

    Face it, wingnuts. The Democrats were actually right about a major national security issue and had a more “serious” response to it at an earlier date than the Republicans did.

    Pause for exploding brains.

  45. 59

    Anonymous spews:

    9 MWS

    So some people tell the state one thing and a pollster another about their affiliation. Weird, huh?

  46. 60

    Another TJ spews:

    Exactly what I meant.

    I figured. I just wanted to clarify that the differences are less in what answers are being given than they are in the questions that are being asked.

    Of course, to MWS, it means they are criminals, or something. I didn’t understand him. He only posts before and after work in spurts, so we won’t know, because he’ll have some other links and bilge to spew.

    I’ve completely given up on addressing him. In fact I rarely even read his posts anymore. They’re just not worth my time. If others want to, knock yourselves out; no offense intended. I just can’t deal with that level of willful stupidity.

  47. 61

    Another TJ spews:

    It was Mike “I’ve Got Mine” McGavick, ranting on and on about how he never said he wanted to privatise Social Security! He had to use an entire 30 second commercial that was nothing but him saying “I never said privatise! I never said privatise!” and calling Cantwell a liar.

    Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,

    My client did NOT rob that bank. He did NOT rob that bank. He merely demanded that they turn over to him a large sum of money… at gunpoint. He did NOT rob that bank. The prosecutor is a liar.

  48. 62

    Daddy Love spews:

    87 PL

    All I can say is, pick up the long pieces before the assualt weapons ban is reinstated.

  49. 63

    spews:

    Goldy,

    Of course, one could also point out that McGavick announced he was leaving Safeco on July 19th, some one month before Katrina hit.

    Just another little white lie in a McGavick book of fables.

  50. 65

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    In case you’ve ever wondered who the fools are that send in the money that keeps those late-night infomercials on the air, and the hucksters behind them in business, well they’re Mike?! McGavick’s voting base. You know … the people who live in trailer parks and are in the high-risk insurance pool because Mike?!’s company won’t sell them car insurance. I wouldn’t either.

  51. 66

    GBS spews:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15446565

    Safavian sentenced to 18 months in jail
    Judge notes ‘abuse of public trust’, desire to ‘hang out with the big boys’

    Safavian openly wept in court as he asked for leniency . . .

    JCH, MTR, Klake, Puddybud, MWS, ChristmasGhost, HowCanYouBeProudToBeAnAss, Janet S. (aka anonymous):

    Can any of you explain why conservative men are such raging pussies?

    Is it because all of you were insecure, snot nosed, little whiney shits as children?

    Jesus Fucking Christ you guys are the biggest collection of little, crying ass, pussy-whipped, ass wipes I’ve ever seen.

    No wonder the terrorist have ZERO respect for Americans. Every time they turn on the TV there’s some Republican crying his little fucking eyes out.

    It looks like the Soccer Mom’s need to wipe the bottoms of their so called “men,” powder their bottoms and put on fresh diapers.

    It might be a good time to invest in Pampers because come this January when Speaker Pelosi has subpoena powers there’s going to be a lot more Republicans whining like the pussies they are.

  52. 67

    Daddy Love spews:

    22 TJ

    When I lived in California I was used to the Washington open primary and they made me affiliate when I registered to vote. My first instinct was to register independent because I thought I would have the widest range of possibilities. Turns out that shut me out of the partisan primary races, so I changed my affiliation. But I can see why people might want to affilaite “unaffiliated,” if there’s some electoral advantage.

    Of course, to MWS, it means they are criminals, or something. I didn’t understand him. He only posts before and after work in spurts, so we won’t know, because he’ll have some other links and bilge to spew.

  53. 68

    Daddy Love spews:

    71 rhp6033

    They already are hitting back. I saw two pieces on TV last night. One was Maria, a 30-second ad that first rebutted two false McGavick claim then hit him HARD on SS, quoting his Web site (!) then superimposing a big red rectangle with PRIVATIZATION stamped across it over the pull quote. Boom! then out.

    It was great.

    The other was Darcy hitting back at Gay Pride Dave. I thought it went too far in being defensive, but has a small shot of little Dave walkign with little Bush with BIG heads of Cheney And Rumsfled over them, talking about “Dave Reichert and his friends…” Brilliant imagery! People HATE Cheney and Rummy.

    Except MWS, MTR, Klake, Anon, etc. who are in the 17% who favor them.

  54. 69

    Delmas spews:

    OK Rufus, but if you dont have any of these credentials, how do you ever think you will be rated well qualified?

  55. 70

    Daddy Love spews:

    Regarding George “Macaca” Allen’s campaign dredging up Jim Webb’s fiction to use against him, from Josh Marshall:

    If Allen really wants to play rough, maybe it’s time for some Democrats to start going on the shows and asking about that sealed divorce records of Allen’s. All those reporters have a pretty good idea of what’s in there. But Sen. Allen (R-VA) just won’t agree to let them see it.

    It’s almost like he’s spitting in their face.

    We should just send Stefan.

  56. 71

    The Socialist spews:

    Dave’s commercials are getting pretty screechy and unhinged to. They make him seam very desperate

  57. 72

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Can you imagine how much insurance companies would take off the top if Social Security was outsourced to the insurance industry? No wonder the insurance industry is paying McGavick $28 million to run for Senate.

  58. 73

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Pretty soon Social Security would resemble health care — insurance companies take 25% of all health care dollars off the top — and blame trial lawyers (who account for less than 1%) for soaring health costs!

    Under the government-run socialism called Medicare, administrative expenses are 1/2% — one fiftieth of what the private sector charges us.

    Anybody want to guess how we can make health care more affordable? Certainly not be electing Mike?! McGavick to the Senate!!! He’s the problem, not the solution.

  59. 74

    The Socialist spews:

    87.

    An ak 47 with flash suppresser you can get those now because the assault rifle ban they didn’t ban the rifles they ban the flash suppressers on them .

    A mossberg pump or auto shot gun with a shortened barrel I have one of those for home protection . There just like a sawed off shot gun but there still legal I have a longer barrel for hunting.

    You can get 50 caliber rifles semi auto to that would probably be useful in a revolution .

    And a probably a clock semi auto hand gun with a 15 round mag . There are lots of good semi auto machingun pistols you can get at any gun show. that have 30 round mags for them .

    Go out and buy any gun magazine and get a good idea of what is good or look online I guess.

    I don’t think were ready for an armed insurrection yet . But the weapons are certainly there thanks to the gun nuts.

    And I am a hunter and have grown up with guns.

    any ways there you go

  60. 75

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    ” … sounds of heavy breathing came from the burrow. There were muffled moans. After a few minutes, the cute fluffy female bunnies hopped out into the sunlight one by one, staggering a little … “

  61. 76

    Daddy Love spews:

    Wow.

    From the Associated Press:

    Middle-class voters who deserted the Democratic Party a dozen years ago are now giving the party its best chance to reclaim the House since the GOP swept Democrats from power in 1994.

    Motivated by anger at President Bush and the Republican-controlled Congress, 56 percent of likely voters said they would vote on Nov. 7 to send a Democrat to the House and 37 percent said they would vote Republican. Voters in the latest Associated Press-AOL News poll rated Iraq and the economy as their top issues.

    “I don’t care if I vote for Happy the Clown, just so it’s not who’s there now,” said Mary Nyilas, 51, an independent voter from Cologne, N.J., who said she would do everything she could to “vote against the powers that put us in this situation” in Iraq.

    It’s too early to open the champagne, but I’m buying some tonight.

  62. 77

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I’m waiting for Redneck to weigh in with his rant about how being poor results from “immorality.” He’s right, of course. Poverty is a direct result of Republican immorality.

  63. 78

    Anonymous spews:

    At least one liberal blogger tells the truth. Too bad others aren’t half as honest.

    The affliction from which Michael J Fox suffers is horrendous. It’s really to bad he is being manipulated to use his suffering to perpetuate a lie. The empathy gap between Marty McFly’s suffering and that of Pope John Paul focuses the spotlight on your victimhood of convenience. The liberal pigs of “caring” were shouting him off the stage and gleefully celebrating his death.

  64. 81

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    BAD NEWS FOR RIGHTIES!!!

    The Associated Press reported new poll results today, and the GOP looks more like road-kill every day!

    ” … Less than two weeks before the Nov. 7 election, the latest Associated Press-AOL News poll found that likely voters overwhelmingly prefer Democrats over Republicans. …

    “The AP-AOL News telephone poll of 2,000 adults, 970 of whom are likely voters, was conducted by Ipsos from Oct. 20-25. In it, 56 percent of likely voters said they would vote to send a Democrat to the House and 37 percent said they would vote Republican – a 19-point difference. Democrats had a 10-point edge in early October.

    “‘I don’t care if I vote for Happy the Clown, just so it’s not who’s there now,’ said Mary Nyilas, 51, an independent voter from Cologne, N.J. …”

    Meanwhile, at Denial Central,

    ” … House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., dismissed talk of a sour outlook for the GOP and cited signs of a strong economy. ‘Things are looking pretty good, and I don’t think anybody would really want to change that at this time,’ he said in Aurora, Ill.”

    He apparently didn’t speak with this voter:

    “‘I don’t think the Republican Party represents what I stand for. The guys I golf with, we’re in the middle class, we’re getting hurt,’ says Joseph Altland, 73, a retired teacher in York, Pa. He is a registered Republican but says he is considering becoming an independent.”

    The AP story continues,

    “Overall, the picture looks bleak for Republicans. Likely voters have low opinions of both Bush’s job performance and that of the GOP-controlled Congress. The president’s approval rating is at a dismal 38 percent while Congress’ is even lower – 23 percent. Two-thirds of adults say America is on the wrong track.

    “‘The country’s in a big, big mess,’ said Cynthia Leininger, 44, a homemaker in Wilson, N.Y., who says she leans toward Democrats. ‘I’m looking for change.’

    “Voters have grown increasingly angry at the Bush administration and Republican leadership in Congress throughout October. Only 12 percent of likely voters say they are enthusiastic about the administration. The percentage of those who say they are angry with it has grown to 40 percent from 32 percent in early October. As for the GOP-controlled Congress, 32 percent of likely voters call themselves angry, up from 28 percent. … In 1994, exit polls found that a majority of voters were dissatisfied with the federal government, with two in 10 reporting they were angry. Voters now are twice as likely to be angry at the current administration. …

    Aside from the level of voter anger, the other dynamic that invites comparisons to 1994 is the attitude of middle-class voters …. In 1994, these voters deserted the Democrats in droves, helping Republicans capture dozens of Democratic-held House seats to seize control …. This fall, however, the AP-AOL News poll shows that … middle-class voters now favor Democrats … and say that Democrats best represent their most closely held beliefs.”

    This article is excerpted under the Fair Use doctrine; for complete story and/or copyright info, see http://tinyurl.com/yaybva

  65. 82

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    More from Camille Paglia – Noted Lesbian and frank thinker: “It’s also been interesting how both sides — but the Democrats early on — characterized Foley as a pederast. He’s a dirty old man in the classic Washington tradition, going after teenagers. But there’s no proof that he’s a child molester.

    I kept hearing on the radio the stentorian voices of Democratic women politicians saying that Foley was “preying on children.” When will this stop? This blurring of the line between teenagers and children — who should be vigilantly protected by any society.

    And in Washington, the age of legal consent is 16.

    Exactly! Therefore if it wasn’t absolutely clear at the start who exactly Foley was flirting with, the Democrats should have been far more cautious about what they said.”

  66. 84

    Anonymous spews:

    Spin City

    The Unconscionable Claims of Michael J. Fox

    The plain fact is that embryonic stem cell research is proving to be a bust. There are currently 72 therapies showing human benefits using adult stem cells and zero using embryonic stem cells. Scientifically-minded readers can review this medical journal article on the status of adult stem cell research. while no such treatments are even remotely in prospect for embryonic stem cell research.

    Liberals: LIARS

  67. 85

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Carl Grossman – Show us your bull-dyke drag costume for Halloween!

    GBS – Wear that sissy outfit for Halloween! Pink Tutu?

  68. 86

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Moonbats, ATJ you are excepted for being too stupid:

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/ho.....guest.html

    If you take the time and run the video of Michael Steele’s sister Dr. Monica Steele MS sufferer, and you’ll see the lies promulgated by the librul loony moonbats!

    I understand how many moonbats will NOT read the article, because if you are a victim you can’t be held accountable for your actions.

  69. 87

    Another TJ spews:

    So some people tell the state one thing and a pollster another about their affiliation.

    Not exactly; they’re entirely different questions. It’s the difference between affirmatively registering your affiliation with the state for the purpose of voting in primaries and simply responding to the question, “Generally speaking, do you usually consider yourself a Republican, a Democrat, an Independent, or what?”

  70. 88

    The Socialist spews:

    Mike McGavick really looks like a real jerk in the new commercials
    I have seen on TV.

    He kind of look’s sort of unhinged a little bit.

  71. 89

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    77

    McGavick doesn’t want to privatize Social Security. He only wants to privatize your Social Security money.

  72. 90

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    If being poor is so great, why doesn’t McGavick volunteer to be poor? No one is forcing him to live in a $4.5 million home in The Highlands gated community. Think of the taxes he’d save if he gave the $28 million to charity! I’ll be having to give him driving directions to a food bank in his neighborhood! How about it Mike? Are you willing to put your mouth where your money is?

  73. 91

    For the Clueless spews:

    Now that this is the case, Republicans are forced to offer alternatives, which of course contain some elements such as milestones, performance benchmarks, “timetables” (we never said “timetables!”) or whatever.

    All timed to conclude before the next preznitdential snow job election.

  74. 92

    Anonymous spews:

    What gets me are the race-baiting direct mail pieces the RNC is sending out in McGoofick’s name, warning Washingtonians that Maria Cantwell “voted for illegal immigrants to receive Social Security.” Those damned brown people, they just aren’t like us. They’re not only coming to take your jobs (as the anti-Darcy “amnesty” pieces warn), but Maria is waving them in by funneling YOUR hard-earned tax dollars to the filthy steenkin’ Mexicans!

    Of course, besides the ugly racist appeal, it’s just not true, as Maria Cantwell voted only for a provision that would enable immigrants who had paid into SS to collect it ONLY after they become naturalized citizens, which under the Republican plans they would not.

    But scratch a Republican and you’ll find JCH in all of them.

  75. 94

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Great article by Camille: Too bad a moonbat like Goldie can’t see the forest or the trees.

    GBS – She called you out – moonbat!

  76. 95

    Mike Webb Sucks spews:

    Oh George Johnson read what a librul lesbian says about people like you on librul Salon:

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/f.....=whitelist

    “Mark Foley was never on the radar of anyone outside the small circle of news junkies. So his fall and banishment from Washington were nothing but a drip in the torrential flood of current geopolitical problems. The way the Democratic leadership was in clear collusion with the major media to push this story in the month before the midterm election seems to me to have been a big fat gift to Ann Coulter and the other conservative commentators who say the mainstream media are simply the lapdogs of the Democrats. Every time I turned on the news it was “Foley, Foley, Foley!” — and in suspiciously similar language and repetitive talking points.

    After three or four days of it, as soon as I heard Foley’s name, I turned the sound off or switched channels. It was gargantuan overkill, and I felt the Democrats were shooting themselves in the foot. I was especially repulsed by the manipulative use of a gay issue for political purposes by my own party. I think it was not only poor judgment but positively evil. Whatever short-term political gain there is, it can only have a negative impact on gay men. When a moralistic, buttoned-up Republican like Foley is revealed to have a secret, seamy gay life, it simply casts all gay men under a shadow and makes people distrust them. Why don’t the Democratic strategists see this? These tactics are extremely foolish. Gay men through history have always been more vulnerable to public hysteria than are lesbians, who — unless they’re out there parading around in all-leather bull-dyke drag — simply fit more easily into the cultural landscape than do gay men, who generally lead a more adventurous, pickup-oriented sex life.

    Not only has the public image of gay men been tarnished by the over-promotion of the Foley scandal, but they have actually been put into physical danger. It’s already starting with news items about teenage boys using online sites to lure gay men on dates to attack and rob them. What in the world are the Democrats thinking? We saw the beginning of this in that grotesque moment in the last presidential debates when John Kerry came out with that clearly prefab line identifying Mary Cheney as a lesbian. Since when does the Democratic Party use any gay issue in this coldblooded way as a token on the chessboard?” [MWS When the donk feel it’s to their advantage to put their used meat on the table!] “You’d expect this stuff from right-wing ideologues, not progressives.”

    I like it when libs identify moonbats for what they are!

  77. 96

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    “Out of touch” aren’t the right words for this guy and the pukes who applaud him. “Willfully insensitive” is more like it. None of them have any clue what it’s like to be poor.

  78. 98

    rhp6033 spews:

    The Republicans in Virginia must really be worried about James Webb. He is a genuine southerner, a former Marine and a war hero, who even served as Secty of the Navy during the Reagan administration. He is actually fairly conservative in his beliefes, an ardent defender of his Scots-Irish heritage (he wrote a book on the subject), who converted to Republicanism due to his perceived disdain of Ivy-Leage liberalism. Once he saw Republicans in action during the current administration, he returned to his Southern Democratic roots and ran for the Senate.

    Since it looks like he might actually win, they are bringing out quotes from some novel he wrote years ago, arguing that it is pornographic. Gee, what did they expect – the guy was a Marine, after all. Somewhere along the line he was probably went to a seedy bar somewhere, and viewed a few things which wouldn’t have made his mother proud, and added them into the book. There’s a Republican running for some state office in Texas (I think it is State Auditor) who’s also being questioned about her writings in some romance novel, and there the Republicans are arguing that its not relevant.

    I don’t agree with a lot of Webb’s views, he’s a bit too much of a conservative apologist for me. He is, however, the real deal. I read his book last year, “Born Fighting – The History of the Scots-Irish in America”, because of its relevence to my studies of American history. I enjoyed the book, but I think he got off the track about two-thirds of the way through it when he argued that the Scots-Irish were not responsible for slavery because it was an English institution, and the Scots-Irish who made up most of the Confederate Army never held slaves. I think that ignores the fact that most of them would have held slaves if they had the ability to do so.

    But he does make a good point that the intererests of the working-class whites and blacks of the South are much more similar to one another than they are different. But he uses this to argue that they weren’t really responsible for the racisim in the South. There I think he is confusing logic with facts- perhaps the working class whites should have joined a solid front with working-class blacks in the South in order to be more politically powerful, but the facts are that they did not. There was more concern among the working-class whites that they might have to share the bottom rung of the economic and social ladder, or be pushed off of it entirely, by black civil rights movement.

    But the Republicans have come a long way now in allowing both groups to see that they have more in common – a common need to get rid of the Republicans.

  79. 99

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    84

    What do wingnuts have against a hard-working writer trying to earn an honest living? I want to know. Maybe I’d like to be a novelist myself someday.