by Lee, 08/31/2007, 1:42 PM

And to kick off the weekend in style, I give you the Inaugural Marvin Stamn Highlight Reel.

173 Responses to “Labor Day Weekend Open Thread”

1. Tlazolteotl spews:

The stupid! It burns us, precious!

Happy Labor Day, all – have a good weekend.

2. dlaw spews:

WASHINGTON RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION BACKS AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. SAYS IT CANNOT DO BUSINESS WITHOUT ILLEGALS. ADMITS BEHIND-THE-SCENES LOBBYING ON BEHALF OF AMNESTY.

On the record on KCTS

3. Rujax! spews:

Lee-

You are really the most thorough and conscientious poster around, and that post is not only a complete de-bunking but really entertaining.

Great job!

4. Lee spews:

@3
Glad you enjoyed it, sir. Have a good weekend.

5. Tree Frog Farmer spews:

Gotta hand it to gya, Lee. Great Stuff!

6. SeattleJew spews:

This is a unique approach to handling a troll. It could actually become a series of series.

7. chadt spews:

Thanks, Lee. Maybe this will help with some of the stamnering and mumbling from the LA Trollers Assoc.

8. SeattleJew spews:

HUGE NEWS

Warner is stepping down from the Senate.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8RC6D9G2&show_article=1

This makes VA prime territory for a dem AND, if Obama is the candidate the synergism is clear.

Between Warner and Craig, one wonders if there is not a Tsunami gathering?

9. Proud To Be An Ass spews:

@2: For every ‘illegal’ immigrant with a job in this country, there is an employer breaking the law.

Why do these employers hate our country?

10. Lee spews:

@8
A lot of Republicans are jumping ship right now. The tsunami started in 2006 and is just still rising. The next 14 months are going to be very interesting.

11. SeattleJew spews:

Fascinating.

I wonder who is next.

This confirms my belief that Obama is a bigger threat than HRC. An Obama/Warner ticket in Virginia might be indomitable.

Of course Warner is an old man. That may be why he is resigning BUT he does not seem to have groomed a successor and the presence of James Webb in the Jr. chair from VA can’t help the Publicans.

If I had a voice in WA state Publican campaign, I would somehow get John McKay on the ticket and have Schwarznegger’s support for the new GOP.

BTW, you might look at my post over at SJ on the new ? G-phone. That is also exciting. If true it could revolutionize the business you are in. Imagine anytime anywhere access for free?

12. My Left Foot spews:

Lee,

Marvin is now in a corner, fetal position, thumb in mouth. He has nothing left to say. He knows you just made him famous, but like Minnow before him, he does not like the how and why.

Great job!

13. Roger Rabbit spews:

How Stupid Is Marvin Stamn?

This stupid:

“Marvin is actually not from this area (he’s from Los Angeles, apparently). Why he comments at a blog that’s geared towards Washington State politics, I don’t know. But with the recent success of Congressional candidate Darcy Burner’s fundraiser, Marvin thought he’d get in on the act. He was curious why he didn’t see some of our names in the ActBlue page:

“‘Perusing through the list washington state was less than half the donations (didn’t check every name on every page so my initial estimate could be off) Didn’t find a david goldstein, lee, rogerrabbit or seattlejew listed. I’m guessing their contributions would be under the actblue webpage – http://www.actblue.com/entity/ fundraisers/8619′

“I made a largely unsuccessful attempt to explain to Marvin that ‘rogerrabbit’ and ‘seattlejew’ are actually web pseudonyms, and not their real names, while someone else pointed out that he linked to the ActBlue page from the 2006 election. He replied:

“‘If these aren’t for 2008, why do they say 2008? …

“‘Darcy Burner Election: WA-08

“‘http://www.actblue.com/entity/ fundraisers/8619′

“Evidently, our genius friend thought that the ’08′ was the year of the election and not an indication that Darcy Burner is running for the 8th Congressional District.”

(From Lee’s link)

HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR …*

* There are too many HARs to reproduce them all here.

Los Angeles, eh? My guess is Marvin is a college student and blogging on HA is a part-time job. He’s probably paid by the College Republicans with the money they got by defrauding senior citizens. They’re probably not paying him very much, because you generally get what you pay for, and they’re not getting very much. We can only hope that Marvin is still in his probationary employment period so the UCLA College Republicans don’t get permanently stuck with this dumbshit.

Now I have to go to the veterinarian to get my ribs splinted! I cracked them from laughing so hard.

14. My Left Foot spews:

Marvin, a personal note:

Like you I live in Southern California. Unlike you I was an active “member” of this blog while I lived in Seattle (having moved about a year ago).

If you would like to meet and discuss politics, the Dodgers, the Mariners or whatever, let me know. I am always interested in meeting those with opposing views.

15. My Left Foot spews:

FurBall,

Here are two bunches of virtual carrots for making me laugh.

Enjoy!!

16. Lee spews:

@13
I knew you’d like that. As I’ve said before, if Marvin is being paid to write these comments, it’s the most concrete proof we’ve ever encountered that the free market can be flawed.

17. SeattleJew spews:

@13 RR

Maybe we need to create some HA traditions.

I like the idea of HA awarding horse turds and bunny droppings as needed.

18. Roger Rabbit spews:

@2 “WASHINGTON RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION BACKS AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. SAYS IT CANNOT DO BUSINESS WITHOUT ILLEGALS. ADMITS BEHIND-THE-SCENES LOBBYING ON BEHALF OF AMNESTY.”

Yeah, it can be tough to hire American citizens when you don’t want to pay American wages.

19. Roger Rabbit spews:

Actually, I see an upside to restaurants hiring illegals. They can post comments about Stefan’s kid’s behavior on ethnic blogs in their native language, and chances are, they won’t lose their jobs. Does anyone know what languages Mr. and Mrs. Sharansky are fluent in, besides pidgeon wingnut?

20. Roger Rabbit spews:

@8 Democrats need only half of the 22 GOP senate seats up for grabs in ’08 for a filibuster-proof majority.

21. Roger Rabbit spews:

@20 I can see it now … Supreme Court Justice Roger Rabbit … what a fitting finale to an already long and illustrious legal career.

22. Roger Rabbit spews:

@21 Don’t worry, righties, I’m against rabbit abortions! The more rabbits, the better! We have no rabbits to spare! As long as there remains a single unfilled ecological niche, we need MORE RABBITS! After humans die off, rabbits will be the dominant species, and I’ll be their king.

23. Roger Rabbit spews:

@15 crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch

24. Puddybud spews:

Lee: Explain this one away

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/29/AR2007082901780.html

Librul MSM Bias continues!

25. Puddybud spews:

Maybe Baby Rabbit Stew?

26. Lee spews:

@24
Why don’t we start with the second paragraph in the article, dumbfuck:

Network news executives rejected any suggestion of bias, and said they have a considerably harder time getting Republican candidates to appear on their shows.

Do you think that’s a lie?

27. Roger Rabbit spews:

@16 Lee, I honored you by posting a comment on your blog. That’s a first, because I’ve NEVER done that before — I don’t post on other blogs. I simply don’t. It’s like getting the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

28. Libertarian spews:

Adios, everyone!

29. Roger Rabbit spews:

@24 “Explain this one away”

“NEW YORK — A conservative media watchdog organization charged Wednesday that the network morning news shows have spent considerably more time this year on Democrats running for president than on Republicans. …

“‘The double standard has got to stop,’ said L. Brent Bozell, the group’s founder. ‘What you hope is that there would be fairness. If you are going to give that much coverage to the Democrats, give it to the Republicans, too.’”

(From puddinghead’s Washingtonpost.com link @24; quoted under the Fair Use Doctrine.)

Roger Rabbit Commentary: Does this mean Republicans want the Fairness Doctrine back?

30. Roger Rabbit spews:

@28 Are you being deported?

31. Roger Rabbit spews:

@25 If you’re hungry you probably can find some rabbit meat outside in the street.

32. Roger Rabbit spews:

One Less GOP Senator, Only 48 More To Go

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20467347/

33. Roger Rabbit spews:

In other news, ex-prosecutor Mike Nifong was held in contempt for lying to the judge in the Duke rape case and sentenced to 1 day in jail. To put the seriousness of Nifong’s offense into perspective, he will serve more time than Scooter Libby did for committing treason. That’s pretty damned serious! Nifong also was forced to resign from office, was disbarred, and is being sued by the indivdiuals he wrongfully prosecuted and defamed.

34. Roger Rabbit spews:

A comment I posted yesterday suggesting that Bush fired Karl Rove met with skepticism, but I may get the last laugh:

“As key members of Bush’s inner circle file out, a former White House official suggests Democratic pressure may have helped hasten the departure of Karl Rove.

“Web exclusive
“By Richard Wolffe
“Newsweek

“Aug. 31, 2007 – … When it was first announced earlier this month, the exit of Bush’s architect was explained as the result of his desire to spend more time with his family. In fact, some of Rove’s friends suggest … [h]is decision to leave was shaped far more by Democratic pressure than Rove or Bush would ever acknowledge in public.” http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20535186/site/newsweek/

35. Rujax! spews:

Hey Puddingbrain…

IT’S BECAUSE THEY’RE ALL DUMB FUCKS…AND NOBODY GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT CORRUPT HYPOCRITICAL REPUBLICANS.

36. YellowPup spews:

#24: It’s interesting that the “conservative media watchdog organization” chose to study AM news for bias. Even if the morning news were 100% about Democratic candidates, more often than not, the stations follow their 2 hours of “liberal” morning news with 22 hours of conservative talk. It’s odd that these groups would bite the hand that feeds this way.

BTW, on the topic of liberals on AM, the survival of Goldy’s show on KIRO disproves the conventional wisdom that AM radio is exclusively the province of “small ‘l’ libertarians” and the tinfoil loincloth crowd. Conservatives snicker at the failure of Air America, but there may be a large untapped market for liberals on AM if only the programming were right.

37. SeattleJew spews:

Howsabout getting the Dracy fund graphic redrawn to extend past 100%

38. Marvin Stamn spews:

Damn, I feel so honored. People that have nothing good to say about me, badmouth me, insist I’m a moron, avoid all my posts that point out the truth about democrats, threaten me with violence, post message after message I’m a sockpuppet of bill someone, take comments out of context and then go and post blog articles about me.
  
Thanks, I’m touched guys.

39. Marvin Stamn spews:

#36 YellowPup says:

BTW, on the topic of liberals on AM, the survival of Goldy’s show on KIRO disproves the conventional wisdom that AM radio is exclusively the province of “small ‘l’ libertarians” and the tinfoil loincloth crowd.

  
Is it still true that rush is the #1 am radio show in seattle?
(Too lazy to google it for a link.)

40. Marvin Stamn spews:

#33 Roger Rabbit says:

In other news, ex-prosecutor Mike Nifong was held in contempt for lying to the judge in the Duke rape case and sentenced to 1 day in jail. To put the seriousness of Nifong’s offense into perspective, he will serve more time than Scooter Libby did for committing treason. That’s pretty damned serious! Nifong also was forced to resign from office, was disbarred, and is being sued by the indivdiuals he wrongfully prosecuted and defamed.

  
Let’s not forget, another proud democrat. I’m seeing a trend here.

41. Marvin Stamn spews:

#14 My Left Foot says:

Marvin, a personal note:
Like you I live in Southern California. Unlike you I was an active “member” of this blog while I lived in Seattle (having moved about a year ago).
If you would like to meet and discuss politics, the Dodgers, the Mariners or whatever, let me know. I am always interested in meeting those with opposing views.

  
The dodgers? How about the Lakers? Not the best of times for the Lakers but… We could talk about the Nick led lakers against the gary led sonics, that’s always good for a laugh, at least for me.
It might not be as fun discussing politics with me in person, if you’ve read my posts, I don’t support the publicans, nor the democrats. So your hate bush rhetoric won’t be challenged. Would you have anything else to say?
 
I’m self-employed, available most anytime but would like to keep my afternoons free for bike riding. Over sushi? I don’t drink so the “over drinks” thing won’t work for me.
  
Since you live in los angeles… how do you feel about clinton having mayor viagra-gosa working on clinton’s national campaign. Isn’t it rather strange that both the la mayor and san fran mayor have had infidelity issues and clinton is keeping them around? Abused woman syndrome?
  
Oh yeah, if we do meet you have to promise not to tell the sheeple on this board the truth about me. I have fun reading the words of people getting their panties in a bunch, the truth would hurt my troll reputation.
marvin_stamn@hotmail.com

42. chadt spews:

Jesus, you just don’t get it.

Nobody here gives a gives a shit about your boring analysis of what’s wrong and rotten about us. You want to harp about your brilliant observations wherein you can prove that Republicans are in every way superior to us slime, and lead us to the salvation that only your incisive wit can provide. You want to pontificate to a bunch of Seattle commenters from your perch in Los Angeles, and harass us for the philistines you know us to be.

If you expect welcome for coming in and shitting on the furniture, find a different reality.

Meanwhile, either find something intelligent to say, or fuck off, or expect similar responses. Shriek all you want about name calling, jerk, you deserve every inch of it.

43. Marvin Stamn spews:

#13 Roger Rabbit says:

How Stupid Is Marvin Stamn?

  
Stupid enough to respond to you.
  

Los Angeles, eh? My guess is Marvin is a college student and blogging on HA is a part-time job. He’s probably paid by the College Republicans with the money they got by defrauding senior citizens. They’re probably not paying him very much, because you generally get what you pay for, and they’re not getting very much. We can only hope that Marvin is still in his probationary employment period so the UCLA College Republicans don’t get permanently stuck with this dumbshit.

  
Good thing you worked for the government, with an intuition like yours you would ended up living in a van down by the river.

44. Marvin Stamn spews:

#42 chadt says:

Jesus, you just don’t get it.

    
Threads about me on blogs I’ve never visited. Maybe you don’t get who’s really getting punked here.
  

You want to harp about your brilliant observations wherein you can prove that Republicans are in every way superior to us slime,

  
Can you find a post saying anything good about the publicans? Feel free to post a link.
  

Meanwhile, either find something intelligent to say, or fuck off, or expect similar responses. Shriek all you want about name calling, jerk, you deserve every inch of it.

  
Of course I deserve it, I’ve called you names many times. Of course I don’t have any links to prove it, but who cares.

45. Marvin Stamn spews:

Here’s my post on http://effinunsound.com/?p=472 for those that want to miss it-
  
Thanks thehim for dedicating an entire thread to me. Hope it increases your traffic.
   
The very first paragraph you lied about me. Is that how you make points on this blog, by making shit up? Fix your post you lying liar. You make steven @sound politics look honest.
 
“But every once in a while, a troll will appear who thinks he’s not really a troll.”
  
#58 Kudos to horesesass for letting us trolls post.
feed://www.horsesass.org/?feed=rss2&p=3295

46. Lee spews:

@45
Sorry about that Marvin, I see you ARE smart enough to know how stupid you are.

47. Lee spews:

@38
Damn, I feel so honored. People that have nothing good to say about me, badmouth me, insist I’m a moron, avoid all my posts that point out the truth about democrats, threaten me with violence, post message after message I’m a sockpuppet of bill someone, take comments out of context and then go and post blog articles about me.

Touching. I’m shedding a tear right now.

@44
Threads about me on blogs I’ve never visited. Maybe you don’t get who’s really getting punked here.

Oh, I’m pretty sure he does.

48. Marvin Stamn spews:

Lee says:

@45 Sorry about that Marvin, I see you ARE smart enough to know how stupid you are.

  
That’s better. I accept your apology. Now take the post down or I’ll get steven @sound politics to force you. I’ll sue for lots of $$. You’ll never get a job waiting tables again!!!

49. Marvin Stamn spews:

#47 Lee says:

@38 Touching. I’m shedding a tear right now.

  
Well thanks. It’s nice a real man like you isn’t ashamed of showing his feminine side.
  

@44 Threads about me on blogs I’ve never visited. Maybe you don’t get who’s really getting punked here.
Oh, I’m pretty sure he does.

  
If it makes you feel better, keep believing.

50. Lee spews:

@48
You’ll never get a job waiting tables again!!!

Oh, I’m doing slightly better than that, thank you.

It’s nice a real man like you isn’t ashamed of showing his feminine side.

Hey, didn’t you just fly to Minneapolis recently? Just askin’.

If it makes you feel better, keep believing.

Have a good weekend, champ. Ready to start working on the sequel?

51. Marvin Stamn spews:

Wow, another blog using me to pick up traffic. http://www.reload.ws/blog/
  
For a troll that is supposedly so meaningless a lot of people want to talk about me.
  
Go for it guys and gals, get a few more pennies from your ad revenue. It’s the least I can do for you.

52. Marvin Stamn spews:

#50 Lee says:

@48 You’ll never get a job waiting tables again!!!
Oh, I’m doing slightly better than that, thank you.

  
Good for you. That increased ad revenue is really kickin’ in.
  

It’s nice a real man like you isn’t ashamed of showing his feminine side.
Hey, didn’t you just fly to Minneapolis recently? Just askin’.

 
Well, I didn’t really fly, I just sat in the plane. Visited birth family for the first time.
Living in la la land, it was surprising to see billboards for the pro-life position on the side of the highways.
  

Have a good weekend, champ. Ready to start working on the sequel?

  
You have a good weekend too my friend. Anything I can do to help feel free to ask. The sequel, sure, something about Hillary and illegal campaign contributions. We can call it “Following in his footsteps,” or maybe “Clinton, the do over.”

53. Lee spews:

@52
You have a good weekend too my friend. Anything I can do to help feel free to ask. The sequel, sure, something about Hillary and illegal campaign contributions. We can call it “Following in his footsteps,” or maybe “Clinton, the do over.”

I LOVE it. I’m sure you’ll throw in some stuff about how the media only covers Republican scandals just because they’re “considerably worse than this”. Damn liberal media and their talking points and groupthink! Gold, baby, gold!

54. Lee spews:

@51
For a troll that is supposedly so meaningless a lot of people want to talk about me.

When the crazy homeless guy I pass on my way into work does something that makes me laugh, I talk about that too.

55. Marvin Stamn spews:

#53 Lee says:

Damn liberal media and their talking points and groupthink! Gold, baby, gold!

  
Yet another example of liberal bias -
  
Mayor of one of the most gay-friendly cities in America, Naugle touched off a ferocious dispute in July, when the Sun-Sentinel published his comments that the city has a problem with gay men cruising public restrooms for sex. He was quoted as saying, “I don’t use the word gay. I use the word homosexual. Most of them aren’t gay. They’re unhappy.”

Naugle’s comments didn’t start as a campaign; he was opining about a one-stall, super-toilet requested by the beach community because the oceanfront lacks public restrooms. Naugle liked the $250,000 self-cleaning robo-toilet, in part because he said it would deter the “homosexual activity” a traditional bathroom attracts.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/sfl-flbnaugle0825nbaug25,0,5338342.story
  
Marvs words – once again in the proud liberal tradition, political affiliation is omitted from the article. Meaning only one thing, he’s a democrat.

56. Roger Rabbit spews:

@36 “Conservatives snicker at the failure of Air America”

What do you mean, “failure?” Last time I tuned to AM 1090, Air America was still on the air.

Do I care whether AA makes money? Or who owns it? Or whether it’s subsidized by rich guys? No. Why should I? Nearly all rightwing propaganda is subsidized by rich guys, so what’s wrong with subsidizing liberal programming?

We know Washington Times loses $50 million a year and is supported by Sun Myung Moon’s criminal enterprises. We don’t know if Fox News makes money, but I’d bet dollars-for-donuts that it’s subsidized by Fox Network’s entertainment programming if not by News Corp. The Scaife, Bradley, and other troglodyte foundations plus large donors pour billions into financing rightwing propaganda.

For that matter, I can’t imagine Ann Coulter’s books and public appearances being moneymakers without subsidies from somewhere or other. We all know how “bestsellers” can be (and are) created — you print a jillion books and a sugar daddy buys three-fourths of them to pump up the sales figures, which go straight to the paper recycling shredder, unread. The rest of them are used as door stops. Or maybe some people buy Coulter’s books to display on the coffee table when the boss comes over for dinner and daddy is angling for a promotion. I once saw a guy use a Coulter book as a cutting board to cut fish heads off on. Okay, I made that up, but I’ll bet someone has used a Coulter book for that. That’s what I would use her books for, if someone gave me one.

57. Roger Rabbit spews:

@38 “my posts that point out the truth about democrats”

Anytime a wingnut starts bandying the term “truth” — look out!!! It’s like kids playing with gasoline.

58. Roger Rabbit spews:

@40 “Marvin Stamn says: … Let’s not forget, another proud democrat. I’m seeing a trend here.”

The fact Nifong called himself a “Democrat” for the purpose of running for public office in a county that votes 90% Democratic doesn’t make him a Democrat, any more than whackjob “Rev.” Fred Phelps calling himself a “Democrat” makes him one.

Nifong was a career attorney in the local prosecutor’s office. It was the only legal job he ever had. He never participated in party activities or local politics. Then the elected prosecutor’s job became vacant and Nifong, interested in securing said job, persuaded the Democratic governor to appoint him. The governor later said it was the worst appointment he ever made.

The local Democratic Party didn’t know Nifong. They ran a candidate against him in the Democratic primary who nearly beat him by running on a platform of not wanting the job and promising not to serve if elected.

Nifong is no more a “Democrat” than Fred Phelps is. Low Tax Looper called himself a “Democrat” too, for the purpose of running for the Georgia legislature, but after losing that election he moved to Tennessee, declared himself a conservative Republican, got elected county assessor with the backing of the local GOP, and proceeded to get indicted on 14 counts of fraud, theft, and corruption. All of these charges became moot when he attempted to get elected to the state senate by eliminating his opponent. Literally. After murdering his opponent, Looper was the only candidate left on the ballot. Nevertheless, a Democratic write-in candidate got 96% of the vote — in a Republican county. Looper is now doing life without parole at Brushy Mountain State Penitentiary.

Like Low Tax Looper and the homophobic preacher Fred Phelps, Nifong called himself a “Democrat” but behaves like a Republican and undoubtedly is a Republican at hard. Nifong’s perjury, lying, and malicious prosecution of the innocent Duke University students brands him as a Republican in the Alberto Gonzales mold.

You lose again, Stamn. Thanks for playing.

59. Roger Rabbit spews:

at heart

60. Roger Rabbit spews:

@41 “I don’t support the publicans, nor the democrats.”

Another wingnut pretending to be an independent … they’re a dime a dozen these days. If I were a Republican, I wouldn’t admit it, either. The GOP brand name is a bit tarnished these days.

61. Roger Rabbit spews:

No doubt the parade of Republican politicans at the prison bus boarding ramp is a conspiracy by the liberal media to elect Democrats …

62. Roger Rabbit spews:

@43 “Marvin Stamn says:

“#13 Roger Rabbit says:

“How Stupid Is Marvin Stamn?

“Stupid enough to respond to you.”

That’s pretty much what everyone here suspected.

63. Roger Rabbit spews:

@43 “Good thing you worked for the government, with an intuition like yours you would ended up living in a van down by the river.”

God, you ARE stupid!!! Everyone on HA knows I live in a hole under a tree root in Green Lake Park. I’ve said so dozens of times. How the hell would I live in a van? I can’t even reach the door handle, let alone the gas pedal. And rabbits don’t like water. What the fuck do you think I am, a goddam retriever? How many times do I have to say it, Roger Rabbit is a fucking RABBIT!!!!!!! Goddamn, you’re stupid beyond belief, Stamn.

64. Roger Rabbit spews:

I Pay Higher Taxes Than Bill Gates!

According to the fishwrapper Gates pays $1.1 million property taxes on his $135 million estate. According to my calculator, his tax rate is .0081% of assessed value.

I figured out mine — it’s .0111% of assessed value! My tax rate is 37% than his!

The county budget is being balanced on the backs of rabbits.

65. Roger Rabbit spews:

“Bill Gates’ waterfront Medina home [is] assessed at $135 million with more than $1.1 million in annual property taxes.” http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003863662_vashon01m.html

66. Roger Rabbit spews:

Senate Republicans Blocked Mortgage Aid

Want to know how to blame for this mess? Here’s a clue:

“Bush called on Democrats to OK a modernization of the Federal Housing Administration (FHA) which passed the House last year with bipartisan support but was quashed by Senate Republicans.”

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003863656_housing01.html

67. Puddybud spews:

For the 650,000 to 750,000 crowd here on ‘Wipes:

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

68. WDRussell spews:

Well this sure falls under,”How stupid do you have to be to believe it”?
Hate radio and TV commentators,except Olberman, spend all of their time attacking Dems.
Then they complain that the Dems have more airtime.

69. Puddybud spews:

Lee: You are as stupid as dirt and as dense as spent uranium.

The Norman Hsu story broke over a week ago. The Internet raised awareness of the Clinton financial backer. The Internet kept the story alive so the librul MSM couldn’t ignore it. Just like the Internet kept the 1996 Clinton/Gore donation story alive. Your friends can’t bury the stories no more.

ABC News Brian Ross said it best “kickoff Senate fundraiser in 2000 was organized by a convicted felon.”

http://www.webloggin.com/ – News and Commentary on Politics, Media and Culture – I like this guy!

Read about Harold Ickes and navigate down to the bottom reading as you go and view all the Norman Hsu fundraising activities!

70. klake spews:

NOW IT APPEARS THAT THE SOCIALIST DEMOCRATS HAVE NOW COME UP WITH A PLAN TO WITHDRAW FROM IRAQ. PRESIDENT BUSH IS NOW STARTING TO IMPLEMENT THE NEW PLAN PRESENTED BY THE FAR LEFT CONGRESS AND THE KILLING FIELDS WILL NOT ONLY BE IN IRAQ THIS TIME. THE SOCIALIST DEMOCRATS WILL BE DOING THE SAME HERE AT HOME IF YOU DO NOT BUY INTO THEIR CUT AND RETREAT PLAN. THESE NEW PLAN EVERYONE IN IRAQ WILL BOLT INTO TURKEY AND HIDE AMONG THEIR SUPPORTS UNTIL THEY GET AIRLINE TICKET TO SEATTLE. THE GOVERNOR WILL BE SUPPLY ALL THE NECESSARY FUNDS AND HOUSING JUST LIKE SHE DID FOR THOSE FOLKS FROM NEW ORLEANS. YEP IT IS NICE TO BE LOVE BY A LIBERALS TODAY. FREE DRUGS SO USE TO MAKE THE WORLD LOOK GREATER FROM THE HILLS OF SEATTLE.

EDITORIAL
Living in Fear for Helping America
Published: September 1, 2007
Of all the Iraqis jaded by the failure of the United States’ invasion, few are more fearful than the tens of thousands who worked loyally for the American war effort but now find themselves hunted as traitors by militant gunmen.
The Bush administration only lately stepped up the effort to offer them special refugee status, but it turns out that very few are able to safely apply. It’s too dangerous to process them within Iraq, so these harrowed workers must risk expensive trips to Jordan and Syria to apply at American Embassies. It is a classic Catch-22 that has many hiding in terror in their home neighborhoods.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/01/opinion/01sat2.html

71. YLB spews:

Puddybud!!! It’s Saturday!

Don’t look now. Here come’s the wife with the rolling pin!

72. klake spews:

Folks i hope you like my new english they are now teaching in the new Seattle schools District today like your new math,Maybe your kids (goats) can now get a great job in the editoral office writing in the Pi.oHHHH! maybe the mayor can help thouse starving artist who can no longer find a place to stay?????? I know they can stay with rOger Wabbit in his many big holes at gReen lAke. Hope they like eatIng week old greens that got mushRooms growing on the for dInner. He has the Best garden of Grass to pArtake in to Make the skyes looook grEEEEner oooops bLueeeer. Man that is smoooTh stuff the waBBit is shareing this wEEkend at hIs going Back to sChool Party. WaNt those tEAchers all gassss out for cLasss to teach those latch kEy kIds the roPes on how to run and not Get shot in Seattle by the Border pAtrol. Don’T speeek Russian bUt sPanish they wIll nOt know you Swam the Frazer River and snuck under the Border at bLaine in Rogers dRug Tunnel.

73. klake spews:

OH I FORGOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Roger is the Minister for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda for the Socialist Democrats Party today just like Paul Joseph Goebbels was in Hitler Germany. His Nazi friends taught him the trade when he visited them in jail.

Democrats Say Leaving Iraq May Take Years
By JEFF ZELENY and MARC SANTORA
Even as they call for an end to the war, Democratic
presidential candidates are setting out positions that
could leave the U.S. engaged in Iraq for years.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08 /12/us/politics/12dems.html?t h&emc=th

74. YLB spews:

Stamn: I like talking music with you but SJ found the right word for your politics: puerile.

We have a two party system in this country. That’s not likely to change soon because we elect people with a winner takes all system.

Your energy is better spent changing the system than taking digs at Dems who will have to clean up the Republican’s mess.

The main themes of this blog is Republicans (like Puddybud) suck and always elect more progressive Dems.

75. YLB spews:

Klake: you’re hitting the sauce too early in the morning.

76. YLB spews:

Puddybud: no one here is enthusiastic about HRC. We’ll vote for her if she’s the nominee to keep out someone you’d vote for like Mitt Romney.

LMAO!!!!

77. klake spews:

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Puddybud says:

For the 650,000 to 750,000 crowd here on ‘Wipes:

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

09/01/2007 at 7:48 am
Hey Puddybud did you make a DONATION to the Brits to end the WAR? Maybe if they sold bumper stickers like Roger Wabbit did on Freeing Tibet the war will end like Tibet is Free today.Don’t forget to go to Green Lake a partake in Rogers stash og legal drugs today. Those mushrooms are to die for, but then you might anyway in that neighborhood. Don’t wear your old INS hat they might stone you thinking you work for the FBI.

78. SeattleJew spews:

I am not a party line voter. I have voted for Republicans when I felt they were the better choice. I have publically doubted the quality of our current gov and still fee she can and should be defeated. BUT, that only means I beleve we need real alternatives. A party led by folks immerses in fanatasy … Traq war = Terrosism, inteligent design, the evil weed, free markets, etc. is not fit to govern anymore thatn a party led by leftish fanatasies should govern,

The Rove effect on the Republicans was scary because it was creating a truly dangerous alliance of extremists. Now it looks as if the piper has come to collect his wages. The Republican party is a shambles.

This is not good. Ours IS a two party system and will do best when there is realistic opposition. As realistic Republicans flee or become Dems (James Webb) there is a real danger of the Replicans sinking to a core that believes the simplistic Rove mantra canc an not govern.

Fred Thompson is the latest symptom. He is not a bad guy. He is probably more intelligent than lil Bush, but this is faint praise. errr ahhh, how does he stand up to the Demo candidates?

Thomson is out of his league and probably knows that but sees this as a unique opportunity.

Why can’t the Repricans be honest? … Bush is a failure, Rove damaged the party. The time has come for new leadership. Thompson and the rest of the Reprican candidates can not realistically lead the party. Some are just second rate. Some have beliefs and life styles that are bizar by the standards of Rove. At least one has a true religious issue he can not solve.

The only credible Reprican Prexy is Romney, but he can not win because Mit belongs to a large but sect-like religion. The sad thing is that instead of standing up for moderation, th esquare jawed Superman look-alike, is drinking the kryptonite laced Rovian brew.

Look around the US for popular, successful Replicans. Romney, S’negger stand out. Why? because they are rational conservatives. Iraq, the whit picket border, prayer in the schools, flat taxes, etc are irrational stances.

The answer???

Renew the party. Seek new leadership built around Whitman, the Bush Is, Schwartznegger. Draft businmess leaders into politics instead of second rate demaguougues like Rove.

Since HA is not about advising the enemy andf I fear becoming the Dreyfus of HAland, I am going to repost it at SeattleJew
and start a regular post on SJewish advice to the nut right.

79. Lee spews:

@67
Oh, please. Do you really think the Norman Hsu story is that big of a deal? He’s a single donor, and the folks he’s given money to are giving that money back. This kind of stuff happens to both Democrats and Republicans all the time.

Meanwhile, the finance co-chair of Mitt Romney’s campaign, Mel Sembler, is a man who was involved in setting up a chain of “teen drug rehab centers” which were busted for kidnapping and torturing teens, some who never even used drugs before.

http://www.reason.com/news/show/121088.html

If Hillary Clinton was in the same situation, do you REALLY think the media would be ignoring that?

80. Lee spews:

@55
Marvs words – once again in the proud liberal tradition, political affiliation is omitted from the article. Meaning only one thing, he’s a democrat.

OK, Marvin, so in the past you’ve said the following:

1. The news (not the opinions) presented by Fox News is not biased towards Republicans.
2. When a news outlet tries to obscure someone’s political party affiliation, that reveals a bias.

So, knowing that Fox News has attempted to call Mark Foley a Democrat when was exposed as a creepy pedophile:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eat-the-press/2006/10/04/oreilly-factor-labels-_e_30927.html

And Arlen Spector a Democrat when he was hammering on Alberto Gonzalez:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/07/24/fox-news-labels-arlen-specter-a-democrat/

Which of the statements above is incorrect?

81. Tlazolteotl spews:

@79 Mormons are really big on the teen ‘treatment centers’ I can tell you. There has been scandal after scandal in Utah and eastern Nevada where teens have died after being abused in these concentration camps. The funny thing is, they run these places, but won’t send their own kids to them (too cheap).

82. Marvin Stamn spews:

#81 Tlazolteotl says:

Mormons are really big on the teen ‘treatment centers’ I can tell you. There has been scandal after scandal in Utah and eastern Nevada where teens have died after being abused in these concentration camps. The funny thing is, they run these places, but won’t send their own kids to them (too cheap).

  
Good point. By the way, did you know harry reid is a mormon? And of course, from nevada.
  
You knew that didn’t you?

83. Lee spews:

@82
Good point. By the way, did you know harry reid is a mormon? And of course, from nevada.

What’s your point? You’re not stupid enough to think that ALL Mormons are exactly the same, are you?

84. Lee spews:

@82
Still waiting for you to tell me which of the two statements in comment #80 is incorrect.

85. Marvin Stamn spews:

#80 Lee says:

@55 Marvs words – once again in the proud liberal tradition, political affiliation is omitted from the article. Meaning only one thing, he’s a democrat.
OK, Marvin, so in the past you’ve said the following:
1. The news (not the opinions) presented by Fox News is not biased towards Republicans.
2. When a news outlet tries to obscure someone’s political party affiliation, that reveals a bias.
So, knowing that Fox News has attempted to call Mark Foley a Democrat when was exposed as a creepy pedophile:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ eat-the-press/2006/10/04/oreil ly-factor-labels-_e_30927.html
And Arlen Spector a Democrat when he was hammering on Alberto Gonzalez:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/ 2007/07/24/fox-news-labels-arl en-specter-a-democrat/
Which of the statements above is incorrect?

  
The first one was o’reilly so we can both ignore that one. The second one was fraudulent reporting, worse than omitting the political label. Shameful.

86. Lee spews:

@85
The first one was o’reilly so we can both ignore that one.

Haha, nice try. So, in the future, when you try to convince people that there’s an equivalence between O’Reilly and Olbermann, you’ll be armed with examples of Olbermann mislabeling people’s party identification?

The second one was fraudulent reporting, worse than omitting the political label. Shameful.

OK, so is that not an example of Fox News bias in their news reporting?

87. Marvin Stamn spews:

#83 Lee says:

@82 What’s your point? You’re not stupid enough to think that ALL Mormons are exactly the same, are you?

  
Considering the way people on this blog talks about publicans, they must think all publicans are the same. I’m only parroting the narrow view of the majority of the people on this blog.
  
By the way, how’s the traffic on your websites, gone up of course. ka-ching ka-ching.

88. Marvin Stamn spews:

#86 Lee says:

@85 OK, so is that not an example of Fox News bias in their news reporting?

  
Yes that would be evidence of bias.

89. Lee spews:

@87
Considering the way people on this blog talks about publicans, they must think all publicans are the same.

Nice strawman, jackass. Do you want to play with the adults here, or are you happy sitting at the kids’ table?

I’m only parroting the narrow view of the majority of the people on this blog.

Bullshit. The majority of people on this blog very clearly know that Mormons have a diversity of opinion within their ranks, just like any other religion. Stop making of an ass of yourself.

By the way, how’s the traffic on your websites, gone up of course. ka-ching ka-ching.

Doing well, thanks again for the great material!

90. Lee spews:

@88
Yes that would be evidence of bias.

Excellent. Now we’re getting somewhere. Now, how many times has either CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, or any other channel mislabeled a Democrat as a Republican in order to make Democrats look good?

91. YLB spews:

Hey Lee,

Excellent catch about Faux News labeling Foley as a Dem.

Stamn: There’s your evidence. The “News” section of Faux News turned a “Publican” (Foley) into a Dem to serve Republican ends.

Will you now admit that the “news reporting” of Faux News Channel is biased way to the right?

P.S.: I always call the Fox News Channel “Faux News” because that’s what it is: fake.

92. YLB spews:

Oops sorry. You did admit it.

93. chadt spews:

Well, Lee, perhaps he has a point about traffic increasing here: lots of people are coming by to snicker at him.

94. Marvin Stamn spews:

#89 Lee says:

Considering the way people on this blog talks about publicans, they must think all publicans are the same.
Nice strawman, jackass. Do you want to play with the adults here, or are you happy sitting at the kids’ table?
 
I’m only parroting the narrow view of the majority of the people on this blog.
Bullshit. The majority of people on this blog very clearly know that Mormons have a diversity of opinion within their ranks, just like any other religion. Stop making of an ass of yourself.

   
And people of political parties have a diversity of opinion. So unlike how the posters here lump all publicans into the same bunch (and how I lump all liberals into the same bunch), there is diversity. There are some publicans that are pro choice, some liberals that are pro life. Some publicans that are pro gay marriage, some liberals that are against gay marriage.

95. Marvin Stamn spews:

#93 chadt says:

Well, Lee, perhaps he has a point about traffic increasing here: lots of people are coming by to snicker at him.

  
Like I said, I’m a shill for liberal bloggers.

96. YLB spews:

Stamn: you’re in select company. At EffU, Carl and Lee only write posts on the most obtuse and loony of blog commenters – people like Jeff B. and Pudge at (un)SoundPolitics.

97. chadt spews:

@96

I don’t think he’s TRYING to be obtuse, it’s just a natural talent; as for loony, I think it’s just normal for his universe. The living under a bridge and eating children, however, is clearly unacceptable in normal society, though I don’t know the conservative perspective on this…..

98. Lee spews:

@94
And people of political parties have a diversity of opinion. So unlike how the posters here lump all publicans into the same bunch (and how I lump all liberals into the same bunch), there is diversity.

I agree. Not all Republicans are as stupid as you. It’s certainly true that people here do buy into broad generalizations about Republicans. In fact, I called out Roger Rabbit for it in another front page thread. But the difference is that you’ve been here saying that you don’t do that, that you’re fighting against groupthink, but you don’t. You make the a bunch of idiotic generalizations about “the left”, and I’ve been enjoying smacking your amateur shit around.

There are some publicans that are pro choice, some liberals that are pro life.

Nearly all liberals are pro life. And most of those who are pro life are also pro choice.

Some publicans that are pro gay marriage, some liberals that are against gay marriage.

Sure, because the gay marriage issue is a moral issue and falls along the libertarian-authoritarian axis.

99. SeattleJew spews:

@94 Marvin

I must be the exception to your rule .. “he posters here lump all publicans into the same bunch .”

However, the reality is that the difference between the two parties is all too real. Today’s Democratic party is overwhelmingly anti imperialist, anti racist, realistic, pro-democratic, etc, Caling the DP “left” is dumb.

In contrast the Republican party is full of far right idealogues. I almost want to call it moderation vs, fantasy.

Let take one exmaple:

Creationism

The majority of Publican candidates endorse this at least as something to be taught.

100. Marvin Stamn spews:

Another democrat scandal-
Hamann, a respected prosecutor appointed by Gov. Eliot Spitzer, declined to appear before the Senate investigations committee on Aug. 9, instead sending her top lawyer to face the barrage of critical questions. The committee’s second invitation came with the threat of a subpoena.
Dopp’s lawyer, Terence Kindlon, declined to comment. But people close to Dopp, 48, said he hopes to remain on the state payroll for another year or so to qualify for a full pension.


His suspension without pay since July 23 hit Dopp hard, both financially and psychologically. Another aide implicated in Choppergate, William Howard, wasn’t suspended and soon landed a job in the Homeland Security office, albeit at a lower salary.
 

Dopp’s punishment came hours after a report from the attorney general’s office concluded Dopp and Howard had misused the State Police in a plot to discredit Senate Majority Leader Joseph Bruno (R-Brunswick), Spitzer’s chief rival. The pair hoped to generate negative publicity about Bruno’s use of state helicopters to attend political events.

Dopp has denied wrongdoing. He refused to be interviewed by Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, but submitted a statement saying, “I regret any appearance of impropriety that was created.”
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/state/ny-stspit285349088aug28,0,5781050.story
  
Dopp denied wrongdoing but refused to be interviewed by the attorney general (not labeled as a democrat strangely enough). Sounds like he is a scared little rabbit.
  
Interesting that republicans were labeled, Sen. George Winner Jr. (R-Elmira) & Joseph Bruno (R-Brunswick), Sen. Dean Skelos (R-Rockville Centre) and democrats weren’t. Go figure. You know, I’m starting to sound like a broken record.

101. Lee spews:

@100
Interesting that republicans were labeled, Sen. George Winner Jr. (R-Elmira) & Joseph Bruno (R-Brunswick), Sen. Dean Skelos (R-Rockville Centre) and democrats weren’t. Go figure. You know, I’m starting to sound like a broken record.

What’s inconsistent about it? No Democratic lawmakers were named, just people within Governor Spitzer’s office. Are the people who weren’t labeled elected or appointed officials? Because that makes a big difference.

The article probably could have indicated that Spitzer was a Democrat, but since it’s a New York newspaper, it’s safe to assume that they expect their readership to know that.

Do you feel like giving me serious examples here, or are you sticking with the amateur shit?

102. Lee spews:

@100
And, as I’ve already pointed out to you, you don’t have shit unless you find cases where a newspaper misidentified a Democrat as a Republican in order to deflect bad publicity from the Democratic Party. Only THAT would be an equivalent to what happened on Fox News with Arlen Specter.

103. SeattleJew spews:

@100 Marvin

You are trying to ride a dead horse. Whatever the cause, the Repubs are in trouble. The party needs a reform leader, someone to play the role Clinton played in the Dem party.

The GOP will be GLOP unless it finds a way to rid itself of:

religious extremism
sexual obsession
no taxism
no health care plan

the reason these scandals mean so much is that they represent hypocrisy. Your status as a closted gay does not bother anyone here because you have no opinions on what gay folks should do (much appreciated). BUT, a PARTY that portrays itself in hily terms can not house tghese sorts of characters.

104. Marvin Stamn spews:

#102 Lee says:

@100
And, as I’ve already pointed out to you, you don’t have shit unless you find cases where a newspaper misidentified a Democrat as a Republican in order to deflect bad publicity from the Democratic Party. Only THAT would be an equivalent to what happened on Fox News with Arlen Specter.

  
I’ll agree that would be the equivalent, but in your mind, that is the only way to determine bias? Funny, I didn’t find your definition in the dictionary.

105. Lee spews:

@104
I’ll agree that would be the equivalent, but in your mind, that is the only way to determine bias?

No, not at all. What I’m saying is that for you to contend that there’s a pro-Democrat bias to most media outlets, you would think that at least one of them would’ve done something like what Fox News has done on two separate occasions. Your example above is laughable.

106. Marvin Stamn spews:

#103 SeattleJew says:

@100 Marvin
You are trying to ride a dead horse. Whatever the cause, the Repubs are in trouble. The party needs a reform leader, someone to play the role Clinton played in the Dem party.

  
Good point. Someone with a new vision and not more of the same old same old. That’s probably why the publicans are hoping for hillary to be the candidate so they don’t have to. The ads will say- are you ready for bush-clinton-bush-clinton.

the reason these scandals mean so much is that they represent hypocrisy.

  
If you are being honest, why don’t liberals/democrats voice their outrage at the hypocrisy at gore and his personal destruction of the environment… john edwards and his preaching about 2 americas while he is profiting off the foreclosures on the poor blacks in new orleans? Do you care to voice your opinion of these hypocrites?
 

Your status as a closted gay does not bother anyone here because you have no opinions on what gay folks should do (much appreciated).

    
Keep calling me gay. It doesn’t bother me, yet it does paint the picture of someone who thinks calling someone gay is an insult.
  
P.S. Please tell your friend harvey to stop emailing me pictures of naked little boys!!

107. Lee spews:

@106
Keep calling me gay. It doesn’t bother me, yet it does paint the picture of someone who thinks calling someone gay is an insult.

I think you misread his comment. He’s noting that you’re a closeted gay. He doesn’t care at all that your gay. What he was saying was that many closeted gays lash out against gay people because they’re ashamed of who they are – and you haven’t, which is refreshing.

It’s kind of obvious that you haven’t been able to grasp all of this because you kept insisting that the Larry Craig situation was getting so much attention because he’s a Republican (I mean, seriously, who is THAT stupid). The only explanation that makes sense to us is that you’re a closeted gay yourself and that Larry Craig’s dilemma is just normal to you. It’s not to most people. Straight people are amazed that a human being can live with that level of cognitive dissonance. SeattleJew was just trying to help you understand that.

108. Marvin Stamn spews:

#107 Lee says:

@106
Keep calling me gay. It doesn’t bother me, yet it does paint the picture of someone who thinks calling someone gay is an insult.
I think you misread his comment. He’s noting that you’re a closeted gay.

  
Good spin. We all know he’s trying to be insulting. Very revealing about him.

109. My Left Foot spews:

You gotta hand it to Marvin. He gets his ass handed to him and he keeps coming back for more. I just admire dogged determination like that.

You go, boy!

110. Roger Rabbit spews:

Airlines Stealing Skycaps’ Tips

Here’s a cheap-labor story as outrageous as McGavick’s scheme to let restaurant owners empty the waitress tip jar into their own pockets:

SeaTac skycaps, who are employed by contractors who pay the absolutely lowest wage that state law allows — and get zero benefits — live on their tips.

Several airlines have begun charging passengers a “bag handling fee,” typically $2 a bag. Passengers naturally think this money is for skycap service. But the airlines pocket it all, giving nothing to the skycaps, and tips are plummeting.

Airport and airline officials say, yes, there’s a problem — but then they whine about fuel costs blah blah. Bottom line: No one is willing to pay the skycaps a living wage. Oh — one more thing — the contractors refuse to say how much profit they’re making from the skycaps’ undercompensated labor.

“SEATTLE (AP) – … It used to be that a skycap could live on tips … [but] in the post-Sept. 11 world of airline penny pinching, their income is being whittled away by the airlines and the companies they contract with. …

“United, Alaska Airlines, US Airways, Northwest, American and America West charge $2 a bag for curb checking, but that money isn’t going to the skycaps. It goes to the contractors and/or airlines. The result, the skycaps say, is financial hardship ….

“‘The fee on baggage has dramatically lessened the tips I would have received,’ said skycap James Taggart, 44, who has worked at Sea-Tac for 23 years and commutes from Puyallup to do so. ‘ … Now, when I get $5 for two bags, $4 goes to the company ….”

“The trick is finding a system to satisfy all three parties, and that is a long way off. In the meantime, skycaps say, their incomes are dropping. …

“It is not known how profitable the contracting companies who work with skycaps and wheelchair attendants are; representatives from Huntleigh and AirServ – which, along with ACSI and Aviation Safeguards manage skycaps at the airport through contracts with airlines or other third-party contractors – did not return calls for comment. …

“Sergio Salinas, president of SEIU Local 6, which represents a portion of the skycaps at Sea-Tac, said that all the parties recognize the skycap issue, but no one with the authority to make change wants to step up.

“‘Over the last 30 years, we’ve been trying to get the situation taken care of and make these people have a decent wage and medical benefits, but instead of that, what we’ve seen is the airlines imposing a new system which charges $2 per bag,’ Salinas said. ‘Passengers don’t understand that this $2 does not go to the skycap.’

” … Salinas believes that the port should take over the contracting and push to have one skycap company and one wheelchair company for the entire airport.

“After the Sept. 11 attacks, Alaska Airlines wanted to get rid of skycaps altogether to save money and did so, for a little while. But it was persuaded by a contractor to begin charging for the service in order to provide it, and many other airlines followed suit.

“‘We are all working under tough economic constraints driven by high fuel prices, increasing competition and fluctuations in the national economy for leisure travel,’ Alaska Airlines spokeswoman Caroline Boren said. …

“‘The airlines don’t want to pay,’ said James Collins, 60, who has been working at Sea-Tac as a skycap since 1992. ‘Nobody does.’”

Quoted under fair use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://www.komotv.com/news/9520317.html

Roger Rabbit Commentary: The airlines are all for the skycaps who serve their passenbers making a living wage — as long as THEY get to keep the tips and someone else has to pay the skycaps’ wages.

111. Marvin Stamn spews:

#107 Lee says:

I think you misread his comment. He’s noting that you’re a closeted gay. He doesn’t care at all that your gay. What he was saying was that many closeted gays lash out against gay people because they’re ashamed of who they are – and you haven’t, which is refreshing.

  
You are pulling a john edwards and talking out of both sides of your mouth.
I keep repeating that the democrats are enjoying the larry craig outing is because he’s a gay publican, you insist it’s nothing about being gay and only because he’s a hypocrite. You and seattlejew have both said I haven’t lashed out at gays, so if you’re right and I’m gay, why are you outing me if not for your own pleasure. So, do you have any gay friends? Are you like john edwards and feel uncomfortable around gays?
  
http://visiblevote08.logoonline.com/2007/08/09/video-melissa-etheridge-asks-john-edwards-if-hes-uncomfortable-with-gays/

112. Roger Rabbit spews:

As for the airline industry’s poor-mouthing:

“U.S. airline industry could post record profit this year

“By Jeff Bailey
“Published: April 2, 2007

“CHICAGO: … [T]he U.S. airline industry could post record profits this year. …

“The Air Transport Association, a U.S. airline trade group, said it expected industry profits totaling $4 billion this year … [b]ut some think the industry could top its former record of about $5.4 billion in profit, set in 1999.

“‘It’s time to buy the airlines again,’ Bob McAdoo, an analyst at Prudential Equity Group, told clients in a report in March. He has … profit projections for this year that would easily set an industry record. …

“[B]ankruptcies, along with efforts by airlines not in bankruptcy, have drastically reduced labor … costs at airlines. … [P]lanes are mostly full and airlines have been able to raise fares … about 15 percent last year alone. … [V]ery few new planes are scheduled for delivery to domestic airlines this year or next, which will keep capacity tight and … allow further fare increases.

” … Philip Baggaley, who as a debt analyst at Standard & Poor’s gets paid to worry about the downside of the airline industry, said, ‘It’ll be the best year since the 1990s ….’

But … Baggaley and others see signs of trouble. Labor unions … are growing restive as they watch … airline executives collect big pay packages not … long after union members surrendered … one-third of their compensation to keep carriers afloat.”

Quoted under fair use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/02/business/place.php

Roger Rabbit Commentary: Now that passengers tip airlines instead of skycaps, things are looking up for executives and shareholders.

113. Roger Rabbit spews:

Click here for photo of Marvin Stamn. http://www.fotosearch.com/bigcomp.asp?path=IGS/IGS646/IS179-006.jpg

114. SeattleJew spews:

@108 Marvin
I have no more reason to consider sexual preference an insult that I would to consider musical taste or athletic ability. Would it be an insult if I called yo a closet jock? Lee’s point is good, why owuld you consider my comment an insult unless you are a closeted gay?

What do you want anyone to do about your identity? I asked Harvey’s insight because we all know Pookas understand people very well. Given his well known skills, unless you want to tell us more why wouldn’t I accept Harvey’s opinion?

BTW, Harvey also tells me you are not an ex Jock but that you are divorced, a male,about 47 years old. He also says you were born into a Christian family but really do not take any reliigon seriously, are going bald, and have a scar on your left leg. Any details you want to add are fine by me.

115. SeattleJew spews:

@111 Marvin, Marvin

I can not speak for Lee, but the only reason I care about whether you are or are not gay is your obsession with the idea the liberals care about the issue. Frankly, I do not even know whether Craig is gay. Maybe he is just a hypocrite.

This whole thing mystifies me. Why are the republicans so obsessed with others’ sex lives? For all I know GWB wears leather and latex to bed. I wouldn’t care anymore than I cared where Bill put his willy. Why do you guys care?

Why not come out of the cave/closet? If Harvey’s ideas are wrong (and he is almost always right) the it would do you good to say more about yourself. How could it hurt?

BTW, Harvey is pretty well known but if you want him to tell you more about himself he is a pretty honest rabbit.

116. Roger Rabbit spews:

Actually, it’s a little misleading to say liberals care about gays. What we care about is the principle of treating all people the same. We believe it’s wrong to discriminate against anyone simply because s/he is different from one self.

117. Roger Rabbit spews:

Why should some wingnut living in Seattle give a shit about whether two gays in Massachusetts he’s never met get married? That’s none of his business.

118. Marvin Stamn spews:

#114 SeattleJew says:

@108 Marvin I have no more reason to consider sexual preference an insult that I would to consider musical taste or athletic ability. Would it be an insult if I called yo a closet jock? Lee’s point is good, why owuld you consider my comment an insult unless you are a closeted gay?

  
Wow, this troll really got under you skin, wouldn’t you say professor? Pulling out the gay innuendoes to make your point. Is that really the best you can do? All that education and you use a childish little insult. Kudos to you. hahahaha

119. Marvin Stamn spews:

#116 Roger Rabbit says:
Actually, it’s a little misleading to say liberals care about gays. What we care about is the principle of treating all people the same. We believe it’s wrong to discriminate against anyone simply because s/he is different from one self.
8:58
#117
Roger Rabbit says:
Why should some wingnut living in Seattle give a shit about whether two gays in Massachusetts he’s never met get married? That’s none of his business.
8:59

  
Still hitting submit comment too quick, or does it take you a minute to think up enough for a second post. I used to have a pet rabbit, he seemed smarter than you.

120. Puddybud spews:

Assie Voice: Getting back to the “47 Million {Americans)” who are without health insurance, why do you Moonbat!s add the Americans to the end when the US Census calls them people?

From the LA Times: “The number of Americans without health insurance rose last year from 44.8 million, or 15.3% of the population, to 47 million, or 15.8%, the Census Bureau reported today.”

http://www.latimes.com/news/na tionworld/nation/la-na-census2 9aug29,1,7116144.story?track=c rosspromo&coll=la-headlines-na tion&ctrack=2&cset=true

But when you turn to page 29 of the US Census report it states them as not citizens. There are 10 Million per this report. http://www.census.gov/prod/200 7pubs/p60-233.pdf

So the number is down to 37 Million.

Now if you continue to read the census report 17.7 million earn more than $50,000 a year and can “afford” health insurance. So now were down to 20 million.

Now I posted my reference from July 27th which referenced 13.2 million with Kaiser Family Foundation. I will increase my number to 20 Million. Less than half of the MSM and Moonbat! number of 47 Million!!!!!

121. Puddybud spews:

Hey Moonbat!s, we know many of you support Hilary Cliton.

http://www.newmediajournal.us/daily_columns/the_fraudulent_senator.htm

122. Puddybud spews:

Another racist MSM librul working for the NY Times. Why is Helene Cooper so nasty?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/01/washington/01rice.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&hp&adxnnl=0&adxnnlx=1188652999-uDzIJZOnrwVCNCw5aKLYOg

123. Puddybud spews:

Hey Moonbat!s: We know cheap labor liberals such as Mattel have moved their manufacturing operations to China. So, why are more librul MSM people not calling for reducing worthless regulations or reducing oppressive taxes? Hmmm…? Instead they call for what…? Another welfare program? Well read it here, the bastion of librul thought – John SUV Kerry and Ted Chappaquiddick Kennedy.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/09/01/disaster_relief_needed_for_manufacturing/

In the words of Mr. Spock – Impressive.

124. chadt spews:

You’re a waste of time puddy. Everybody except the masochists here know to just scroll past anything with your label. But knock yourself out. You apparently impress yourself, so there’s at least one person in the galaxy that appreciates you.

125. Puddybud spews:

I see looking reviewing the TIVO, Tim Robbins went to the kool-aid site for high Iraqi deaths. Did he say 400,000? Then I stumbled on the fact Bill Mahar said if the US leaves there will be widespread chaos.

Wow…!

126. Puddybud spews:

Chadt: I look for the real intelligent responses from JSA, GBS and others. Even Lee responds chadt.

You still haven’t entered anything worthwhile on ASSWipes yet. And I see today you are still batting 1.000 for stooooooooooooopidity!

127. Puddybud spews:

Oh and Chadt, I realize why you skip over the links. You have a hard time processing information. Facts hurt your small librul mind!

129. Puddybud spews:

Lee: Can’t post improved GDP results?

130. Puddybud spews:

GDP increased at an annual rate of 4.0 percent in the second quarter of 2007, according to preliminary estimates released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis.

131. Puddybud spews:

Home prices increased the second quarter’s 3.19% year-over-year (12-months).

132. Puddybud spews:

US July factory orders up 3.7 pct vs 3.3 pct rise expected as car orders jump

133. Puddybud spews:

The Commerce Department reported on Friday core U.S. consumer prices rose by a less-than-expected 0.1 percent in July.

134. Puddybud spews:

Yet MSNBC doesn’t write about these truths. They put forth some “consumer confidence” numbers being down. Yeah… right!

135. Puddybud spews:

You guys call Larry Craig a hypocrite. Well maybe you are right.

But Let me put forth a real hypocrite. John Edwards.

John Edwards to Americans: You should give up your SUV yet he keeps his: http://sistertoldjah.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/edwardssuv.jpg

and so do others.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0807/Edwards_vs_the_SUV.html

136. Puddybud spews:

Butt wait there is more!!! Who has a house with more than one garage?

John Edwards. Nice carbon footprint. Hypocrite!

http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/display_exclusive.html?id=3848

138. Puddybud spews:

Here is a better picture of the hypocrites cars and his ostentatious home.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u128/sapguy_us/EdwardsHome.jpg

139. Puddybud spews:

Pellethead: Some friends of yours

http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7011550&nav=menu36_3

140. Puddybud spews:

Pellethead: More about your friends

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/08/31/ap4072936.html

141. Puddybud spews:

Moonbat!s: I am in favor of increasing the minimum wage to a point. But the Donk running for president want us to have economies like France and Germany?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_France#Unemployment

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DEFDE173EF93AA15755C0A9619C8B63

Yeah… right!

142. Puddybud spews:

What has happened to the unions?

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/032isszm.asp

I guess they’ll be sucking the govmint teat now?

143. chadt spews:

Yada Yada, Scroll Scroll……all that wasted space.

144. Lee spews:

@111
You are pulling a john edwards and talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Not really. The instance of me talking about the other side of my mouth exists only between your ears.

I keep repeating that the democrats are enjoying the larry craig outing is because he’s a gay publican, you insist it’s nothing about being gay and only because he’s a hypocrite.

Exactly.

You and seattlejew have both said I haven’t lashed out at gays, so if you’re right and I’m gay, why are you outing me if not for your own pleasure.

We didn’t out you. You outed yourself. Only a closeted gay could think that Craig’s behavior is normal enough that they would think that his outing was only because he was a Republican.

So, do you have any gay friends?

Sure, quite a few.

Are you like john edwards and feel uncomfortable around gays?

Not at all. That’s why I don’t support him. Was the other side of my mouth saying I do? That bastard!

145. Puddybud spews:

Chadt: Still batting 1.000 for stoooooooopidity.

You are a fine specimen for Donk!

146. chadt spews:

Rave on, foulmouth. Your credibility here is obvious.

147. Puddybud spews:

Chadt: Tell us, where have you posted a comment where you stated a fact or proved a point. Let’s see all you comment on is us whom think right. That’s why you are still batting 1.000 in stoooooooooooopidity.

Please let us know when you start writing deep thoughts, and are ready for the big time!

148. Marvin Stamn spews:

#145 Puddybud says:

Please let us know when you start writing deep thoughts, and are ready for the big time!

  
You know chadt, puddybud makes a good point about your posts.
  

#7 Thanks, Lee. Maybe this will help with some of the stamnering and mumbling from the LA Trollers Assoc.
#42 Jesus, you just don’t get it. Nobody here gives a gives a shit…
#93 Well, Lee, perhaps he has a point
#97 I don’t think he’s TRYING to be obtuse, it’s just a natural talent
#124 You’re a waste of time puddy.
#142 Yada Yada, Scroll Scroll

  
You kinda sound like a follower, blindly agreeing with the regulars to be popular. That and insults seem to be what you add to a thread.
  
Take the challenge, write a well thought out post that isn’t a compilation of what others have said.

149. Lee spews:

@146
Why should he waste his time? I have no problems making you look like a complete fucking idiot all by myself.

150. Marvin Stamn spews:

#146 Lee says:

@146
Why should he waste his time?

  
Good point. It would be a waste of chadt’s time trying to write a well thought out post.
  
  

I have no problems making you look like a complete fucking idiot all by myself.

  
Except you appear to be taking a lot of your time doing it.

151. Marvin Stamn spews:

The son of Seattle Mayor Greg Nickels pleaded guilty Thursday in a Seattle court to Conspiracy to Commit Theft of Funds from a Tribal Gaming Establishment.

Jacob Nickels, 26, is scheduled to be sentenced on Dec. 14. Nickels could receive up to five years in prison, a $250,000 fine and three years of supervision.
http://www.kirotv.com/news/14016382/detail.html?rss=sea&psp=news
  
They mentioned the mayor but not his party affiliation, what does that mean? Yup, he’s a democrat.

152. Marvin Stamn spews:

Would you rather be in the Tacoma Washington corrections system or a mormon youth camp?
  
They’re meant to help felons get back on their feet, but a pair of work release centers in Tacoma are running into trouble.
Prison Rape Elimination Act documents reveal an inappropriate physical relationship between a staff member and a resident named Ryan Black.
When confronted with the evidence investigators collected, such as a urinalysis positive for marijuana use, the worker quit her job.
“My private life is my private life,” the worker said.
The woman, who was fired and now works outside of state government, said she knows of other instances of inappropriate relationships.
“It’s common. We’re human. It’s human nature,” the woman said. 

http://www.nwcn.com/statenews/washington/stories/NW_083007WAB_halfway_house_KS.86e201ef.html
  
Of course the fired worker knows of other instances, like she said it’s human nature. Taxpayer funded employees, gotta love it. Well, unless your a criminal then you’re screwed, literally.

153. Marvin Stamn spews:

Most workers know the boss can track their computer use: Send too many personal e-mails, visit too many Web sites unrelated to work, and it could spell trouble.
State workers get the same warning. But unlike workers at private companies, their business, by law, is open to public scrutiny. So what happens when a state worker uses his office computer to send e-mails about things like dating habits, weekend plans or family turmoil?
Do taxpayers have a right to see those messages?

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003861655_openrecords31m.html?syndication=rss
  
Why shouldn’t the people paying their salary have the right to see what their employees are doing with government property. Government works for the people.

154. Lee spews:

@150
Except you appear to be taking a lot of your time doing it.

It doesn’t take much time at all. It’s quite easy, in fact.

@151
They mentioned the mayor but not his party affiliation, what does that mean? Yup, he’s a democrat.

OK, genius, here’s an article about Spokane’s Republican Mayor, who was busted for hitting on teenage boys. See how many times you can find the word Republican in there:

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/jimwest/story.asp?ID=050505_online_relationships

And after you can’t, let me know so taht I can start sending you all the other examples I can find in under 30 seconds.

Dumbfuck.

155. Marvin Stamn spews:

One of Democratic presidential candidate Bill Richardson’s top organizers in rural Nevada resigned Thursday after the campaign learned he had worked for a brothel and was wanted on a felony arrest warrant in California.
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6855456,00.html
  
Wow, another democrat hiring a wanted felon. It seems like the democrats lie in bed with wanted felons on a daily basis.
But I will admit, they do identify him as a democrat.
  
My fingers are getting tired of posting all these democrat/criminal/scandal links. Maybe I can make a “best of” for your enjoyment.

156. Marvin Stamn spews:

#152 …unless “you’re” a criminal

157. Daddy Love spews:

I guess I missed all the fun.

Hey, has anyone blogged about how the Shiites have already almost cleared all the Sunnis out of Baghdad? Are the conservatives complaining about ethinc cleansing? Of course not, ethnic cleansing feeds their “less violence; progress is being made; teh Surge is teh Awesome” meme.

If the Shi’ites kill all the Sunnis in Baghdead and every other Shi’ite area, then peace will reign and we will achieve the Leader’s Victory in Iraq, right?

158. Daddy Love spews:

120 Pud

47 million without insurance is 47 million without insurance. You count like the Bush administration counting Iraqi and American casualties.

159. Lee spews:

@153
Are you telling me that the Giuliani and Romney campaigns haven’t been caught hiring felons too recently? Do you actually watch the news?

160. Marvin Stamn spews:

#157 Lee says:

@153
Are you telling me that the Giuliani and Romney campaigns haven’t been caught hiring felons too recently? Do you actually watch the news?

  
Like I said in a previous reply to you, I’m filling the void. Who here doesn’t already know about publican shenanigans?
  
BTW, have you ever been to soundpolitics? That thehim guy gets his ass handed to him all over the place. I was thinking of posting their argument about the spy outing over here for you to debate, thehim wasn’t able to hold his own over there. Maybe you could do better.
  
I also see that seattlejew trolls over there, rather sad. At least I have the decency to admit I’m a troll.
  
I was wondering where the racist headless lucy went, he went a trollin’ at soundpolitics. And if you think I’m a bad troll, check him out.
  
Damn, I’m starting to feel at home here on horsesass knowing there are so many trolls.

161. Lee spews:

Like I said in a previous reply to you, I’m filling the void. Who here doesn’t already know about publican shenanigans?

What void? I’ve already challenged you to link to a single comment from someone saying that they don’t think that Democrats can be corrupt or incompetent. If you can’t find such a statement from an HA commenter, then you’re not filling a void, you’re being a nitwit.

BTW, have you ever been to soundpolitics? That thehim guy gets his ass handed to him all over the place.

Yeah, hahaha! Link please.

I was thinking of posting their argument about the spy outing over here for you to debate, thehim wasn’t able to hold his own over there.

Link please.

I also see that seattlejew trolls over there, rather sad. At least I have the decency to admit I’m a troll.

I actually haven’t commented over at Sound Politics in a while (I almost always comment there as ‘thehim’, rather than Lee). SeattleJew holds his own. We actually disagree on our share of things as well, but he’s definitely sharp enough to hold his own.

I was wondering where the racist headless lucy went, he went a trollin’ at soundpolitics. And if you think I’m a bad troll, check him out.

As I said, I haven’t been over there in a while. I’ve actually just been making fun of the main posters over at Effin Unsound.

Damn, I’m starting to feel at home here on horsesass knowing there are so many trolls.

Well, as someone who also writes for a blog that makes fun of stupid people, I’m grateful for the material.

162. Lee spews:

@158
Hahahahaha!!!

You must be talking about this:

http://www.soundpolitics.com/archives/008229.html

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

Here’s my response demolishing Eric:

http://effinunsound.com/?p=251

Eric never replied. Shocker!!

163. Puddybud spews:

Daddy Love@156. No it isn’t if they choose not to buy it or if they are illegal aliens!

Try again Daddy Love.

164. Lee spews:

@161
Huh? If someone chooses not to buy it, they still don’t have it.

165. Puddybud spews:

Marvin@148: The first real post from chadt was tonight, Sunday September 2, 2007, in the Three Kiro Comedy Hours of David “ASSIE Voice” Goldstein.

I guess he took our advice and thought for a change. I wonder if his “wife” helped him compose that thought.

166. Puddybud spews:

Lee@162: Then they choose to forgo that opportunity by their own volition. How do you include someone as uninsured when they choose to not insure themselves? I would agree if they created a category of “not insured by choice”. Uninsured infers they want it but can’t afford it or it’s not offered at their job.

You can’t count illegals because they are here illegally.

167. Lee spews:

Then they choose to forgo that opportunity by their own volition. How do you include someone as uninsured when they choose to not insure themselves?

Because they’re uninsured. And if they happen to get a long-term illness, they’re still completely fucked.

I would agree if they created a category of “not insured by choice”. Uninsured infers they want it but can’t afford it or it’s not offered at their job.

Not necessarily. Uninsured means not insured, regardless of the reason. This is something unique to the United States among first world countries. In other places, people don’t have to make basic risk-cost decisions when it comes to their health care. Someone deciding not to have health care is at risk and we should be alarmed at the number of people who have to gamble with their lives like that.

You can’t count illegals because they are here illegally.

I’m not sure if the 47 million figure counts those here illegally. I’d have to look that up.

168. Marvin Stamn spews:

#160 Lee says:

@158 Hahahahaha!!!

  
My sentiments exactly. HAHAHAHA

169. Puddybud spews:

Lee@167: I posted the link. The Census calls the 10 million illegals people. The librul MSM calls them Americans.

I’ll make it easy for you. Start on page 29

170. Marvin Stamn spews:

#162

Lee says:
Here’s my response demolishing Eric:
http://effinunsound.com/?p=251
Eric never replied. Shocker!!

  
Why didn’t you post your response where you were being punked. Why run off and post your “demolishing” post somewhere it wouldn’t be seen. Classic. Where did you learn that, from john edwards? HAHAHAHA

171. Marvin Stamn spews:

#167 Lee says:
Not necessarily. Uninsured means not insured, regardless of the reason.
  
Do you have a breakdown on the people not insured? For example, how many are illegals, how many are young enough not to need it (yet), how many would rather have a new car, how many can’t afford it, etc.?

172. Lee spews:

Why didn’t you post your response where you were being punked. Why run off and post your “demolishing” post somewhere it wouldn’t be seen.

Actually, a lot of people in the local media read Effin’ Unsound, and Darryl also ripped on him here at HorsesAss, linking to my post. I know Eric saw it because his first reply was to something I wrote at Effin’ Unsound. He just chose not to reply.

So, you got that link of where thehim was getting his butt kicked at Sound Politics on the Plame case? Still waiting!

173. Lee spews:

@171
Do you have a breakdown on the people not insured? For example, how many are illegals, how many are young enough not to need it (yet), how many would rather have a new car, how many can’t afford it, etc.?

As I said before, I don’t care about the breakdown. Uninsured is uninsured. It means not having insurance. It means that if you get a life-long illness (which can happen to anyone at any age), you are completely fucked financially. This is a situation that does not exist in any other first world country. I do not agree that when a 22 year old kid buys a car instead of health insurance, then gets cancer, that the correct response is to say “too bad, you gambled and lost.” That’s pathetic, and this country should be better than that.