Judge rules DeLay PAC violated law

Hey… real news. The first of what will be many civil decisions and convictions to come down against Tom Delay and his associates:

In the first major legal decision involving associates of Representative Tom DeLay, a Texas judge ruled today that a political action committee formed by Mr. Delay had broken campaign finance laws as it propelled the Republican Party into power in the Texas House in 2002.

Eventually, the Bugman is going to be squashed.

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  1. 1

    spews:

    Delays TRMPAC Treasurer found Guilty of Violating Texas Election Law
    Bill Ceverha, Treasurer of Tom Delays Pac TRMPAC (Texans for a Republican Majority) has been found guilty of not reporting hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions, a judge ruled Thursday in a civil case brought by Democratic candidates.

  2. 3

    spews:

    Does anyone else see the tremendous irony in the fact that a former exterminator is one of the leading voices in our government for promoting a “culture of life?” I’m not against killing bugs or anything, but I just think that someone so concerned with protecting life would have ended up in a different line of work as he entered adulthood.

  3. 4

    windie spews:

    I think whether or not they can get him put away will be the greatest test of how far their powergrab has gone.

  4. 5

    Puddybud spews:

    So if Hilary Clinton’s ex-treasurer DAVID Rosen, the national finance Director for Hillary Clinton’s 2000 Senate campaign gets convicted (case is in the jury’s hands now), I’ll hear the same liberal sharks circling on her? Hmmm…?

    Pudster

  5. 6

    pbj spews:

    Here is some real news for you:

    FBI sting leads to arrests of four legislators, two others

    Federal Bureau of Investigation agents arrested four legislators this morning as part of a two-year undercover sting operation.

    Those arrested were state Senators Ward Crutchfield (D-Chattanooga,) John Ford (D-Memphis,) and Katherine Bowers (D-Memphis), and Rep. Chris Newton (D-Cleveland.)

    Also arrested were former Sen. Roscoe Dixon, Chattanooga lobbyist Charles Love and Memphis activist Barry Myers.

    In an 11 a.m. press conference, Terrell Harris, U.S. Attorney for Tennessee’s Western District in Memphis, said the group has been charged with violation of the Hobbs Act. That’s a federal statute frequently used in connection with public corruption cases.

    The charges specifically focus on a bill governing the distribution of excess property, a bill co-sponsored by the four current legislators and Dixon.

    The legislation’s language calls for all surplus computer equipment not distributed to public schools to be disposed of through “qualified electronic recycling companies.”

    The indictments say all parties received cash payments ranging from $4,500 to $55,000 in exchange for their influence on behalf of the bill.

    SOURCE: http://nashville.bizjournals.c.....st=b_ln_hl

  6. 8

    pbj spews:

    Looks like we got to see the corrupt Democrats frog marched out of the floor of the legislature in Tennessee. Gregoire in Washington State is next.

  7. 9

    Jon spews:

    That’s why I can’t figure out all the screaming from the left about DeLay, as all anybody needs to do is just let his mouth and actions dig his own hole.

  8. 10

    windie spews:

    I think the thing with delay is his position of power.

    Are you really equating his influence with the influence of some corrupt state senators from Tennessee?

  9. 12

    Nindid spews:

    If Democrats violated the law then they should face the full punishment of the law. But the differnce between the Republicans and the Democrats here is that all of you are trying to defend Delay. I have no idea about the facts of the case beyond the news report – and I will bet none of you do either – but if they are guilty they should be punished. You want to say the same about Delay?

  10. 14

    Jimmynap spews:

    Exactly. I don’t care what party you are with. If you knowingly violate the law you should pay. But don’t try to defend Delay. If he is found guilty of everything you should stand up and applaude our justice system instead of defending a corrupt official. Take the high road that leads to the truth in all causes. Same goes for any mischief in KC. I won’t stand for it. If Dino’s arguements get legs so be it.

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    dan spews:

    “We feel strongly this decision is wrong,” Terry L. Scarborough, the defendant’s lawyer, said in a statement. “We will vigorously appeal this ruling immediately if Judge Hart allows us to do so. We feel confident that Judge Hart will sever this decision so that it can be appealed. Our client was exercising his constitutional rights of freedom of speech and freedom of association. These are the most fundamental constitutional rights that we, as citizens, enjoy and cherish.”

    Um, isn’t that the substance of McDermott’s case?

  12. 16

    pbj spews:

    Nindid@12,

    Thanks for the laugh.

    No, if there is an actual conviction of DeLay then you can talk about it. So far there has been nothing, nada. Just a lot of hot air by partisan Democrats about supposed things of which they themselves are guilty.

    As far as condemning one of your own, you all defended Bill Clinton even when he committed perjury. Not it wasn’t about sex, it was about the lies under oath. If Delat does such a thing he deserves whatever he has coming to him.

    Innocent until proven guilty not guilty because liberals say so.

  13. 17

    Puddybud spews:

    Dan: Are you saying that passing illegal wiretapped phone calls without a judge’s approval is McDimwitt’s constitutional right?

    More liberal blather.

    Pudster

  14. 19

    Patrick spews:

    “Innocent until proven guilty not guilty because liberals say so.”

    Republicans, of course, don’t believe this applies to foreign nationals designated as “enemy combatants” as they merrily go about their business of torturing and murdering innocent people.

  15. 20

    dan spews:

    If McDermott loses, then it would have the effect of making “illegal leaks” like the Pentagon Papers or the Hanford downwinders illegal for the press to use. Of course it’s a first amendment case!

  16. 21

    Puddybud spews:

    Diametrically opposed dan: Illegal activities is a first amendment case? Puleese! Why are there laws against illegal witetaps and their use? They don’t count for a democrapic congressman? I want to see the courts go after the NY Slimes after McDimwitt. What are you drinking and smoking? Are you one who thinks that Ron Dims is a conservate black also?

    Pudster

  17. 22

    Patrick spews:

    AOL straw poll is running 3-to-1 against Bolton.*

    (*Disclaimer: AOL straw polls are nonscientific.)

  18. 23

    dan spews:

    I’m not someone who is afraid to call someone their real name, instead of being juvenile. The pentagon papers were also “obtained illegally” … should they have not been published? What about the Hanford reports where they admitted to releasing radiation (also obtained illegally)?

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    Puddybud spews:

    What you talking about Dan, McDimwitt; who accepted $5000 from a Saddam goon for his legal defense fund aiding and abetting the enemy? When does two wrongs make a right? I cannot condone illegal activity. My Biblical beliefs do not allow me to condone lawbreaking. Sorry, but Jesus said render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s and unto God the things that are God’s. In Caesar’s land you follow Caesar’s laws. Didn’t this happen while Clinton was Caesar? Gods law trumps all illegal activities. If people decide to break laws we’ll have anarchy.

    Pudster

  20. 25

    Marilyn spews:

    Pudster@13: What is this neverending fetish you people have with Hillary Clinton? When you’re not obsessing over Bill Clinton’s genitalia, you’re obsessing over Hillary – explain that to me. Marilyn

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    Puddybud spews:

    Marilyn, your side said it was all about sex. I could care less over Bill’s baggage. When did I obsess over him? I and others said lying is perjury. I also talked about Monica and how he abused her. What is she doing now? But noooooo, your side said we impeached him over sex. Not my take, yours.

    Now Hilary. she is your side’s poster girl. Everything she does wrong is never condemned by your side but for similar stuff from DeLay’s treasurer is lambasted here. Being from New York from 34 years of my life, she is a carpetbagger. New Yorkers were upset with her in Nov 2001 over some stupid comments about George Bush, DIck Cheney and 9/11 almost delayed the $20 Billion for rebuilding. Source NY Slimes. If her ex-treasurer is found guilty for his crimes, I bet he will sing just like Dick Morris said. But will and lefty HA condemn her? I’ll start a betting pool it will be no one!!! Also, it was Dick Morris who has said there was a concerted effort to sling as much mud as possible to deflect Bill and his lack of control. James Carville to this day continues to be a big time mudslinger for Hilary.

    I hope that helps Ms. Marilyn.

    Pudster

  22. 27

    Puddybud spews:

    Marilyn: that one sentence should read: “But will you and lefty HA condemn her?”

    Pudster

  23. 28

    Kendall spews:

    This is huge! The TRMPAC money was instrumental in bringing about a solid majority in the Texas legislature. It was the Texas legislature that redistricted the state to generate more Republican congressmen. These congressmen are the ones who kept the Republican majority in the House from diminishing in the last election. “My kingdom for a horse!”

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    chardonnay spews:

    And talking about TEXAS, where is most of Hillary’s money coming from? TEXAS!
    You can bet that while Delay was under fire for campaign ethics everyone in DC was cleaning up their books and Pelosi and McDermott were first.
    Pudster is right, where is your outrage for http://www.Hillcap.org
    It is strange how so many are turning on poor Hillary, Peter Paul was one of her best friends. Now he is out to destroy her.
    I guess that will result in a Kerry run in 08, and Edwards 2 more bad choices.

  25. 30

    Puddybud spews:

    Or Peter Paul will mysteriously disappear, right Chardonnay? We’ll see what happens after this trial with David Rosen is over.

    When I was in SF last week there was much talk about Pelosi and her clean-up act on the radio stations. Some of the HA gang told me to visit their cousins on Castro street but I politely declined.

    Pelosi is so too faced, and she takes the same junkets like all in congress, but only Delay is wrong. Didn’t McDimwitt take over $140K in junket money?

    Pudster

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    New LIBERAL - gimme most (hell, ALL) of your $$$$ spews:

    Read it and weep, girls… recognize all those names that come with the big ‘D’ after them?

    I’m a Travelin Man…(err…Woman?)

    Ok, you just gotta love this. You know all the flap about that big bad ol’ Tom Delay and his travels? Well take a guess where he ranks among the members of Congress taking privately funded trips in the last five years… C’mon just a guess…

    You think the top ten? No… Top twenty? Nope, not there either. Ok, ok top 100 at least! Sorry… Not there either. Try number 123 with 14 trips.

    So, you say that is pretty high up there considering that it is the upper 1/4 of Congress eh? Wonder where some members of the NW delegation end up?

    Jim McDermott, (D) Washington, (you know he is the guy that was caught illegally taping another member of Congress but since he is a democratICK Congressman from Washington he is allowed to break the law), comes in at number 11 with 39 trips.

    Earl Blumenauer, (D) Oregon ranks number 36 with 29. I wonder how much of his travel was on a bicycle?

    Larry Craig, (R) Idaho ranks 52 with 25 trips.

    Finally we have Norm Dicks (D) Washington, ranking 67 with 21.

    Funny thing is, is that all of the top ten travelers are democratICK politicians. With the number ONE traveler being… drum roll please……. Congresswoman Maxine Waters!! (and the crowd goes wild)… yeahhh…. shshshs…. whooo… aahhh….

    There is heap big more information over at politicalmoneyline.com . Or go to the Federal Election Commission website at http://www.fecinfo.com/ .

    From 2000 to winter 2005, the ranking of Members taking privately-funded trips:

    Member of Congress # of Trips
    1. WATERS, MAXINE 61 – big D
    2. Jim McDermott, (D) Washington, (you know he is the guy that was caught illegally taping another member of Congress but since he is a democratICK Congressman from Washington he is allowed to break the law), comes in at number 11 with 39 trips.

    Earl Blumenauer, (D) Oregon ranks number 36 with 29. I wonder how much of his travel was on a bicycle?

    Larry Craig, (R) Idaho ranks 52 with 25 trips.

    Finally we have Norm Dicks (D) Washington, ranking 67 with 21.

    Funny thing is, is that all of the top ten travelers are democratICK politicians. With the number ONE traveler being… drum roll please……. Congresswoman Maxine Waters!! (and the crowd goes wild)… yeahhh…. shshshs…. whooo… aahhh….

    There is heap big more information over at politicalmoneyline.com . Or go to the Federal Election Commission website at http://www.fecinfo.com/ .

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  27. 32

    Puddybud spews:

    No, not Maxine “Mouth of Watts” Waters?

    But wait, Hilary Clinton 42 – Tom Delay 14. Say it ain’t so? And she’s been a senator for 4.5 years? Three times more trips but the HA wag the dogs want to crucify DeLay? Damn, where was Barney Frank with 51 going? Trolling for lefties I guess!!!

    It’s all Politics. Another fallacy put to rest!

    Pudster

  28. 34

    Harry Poon spews:

    Well, we’ll have to wait for Delay to do something really evil, like lose money in a land deal or get an unauthorized blow job. You know, a really impeachable offense.

  29. 37

    Harry Poon spews:

    Anything less than a wiretap would be uncivilized. Got to stir the Rep. paranoia to the max. Scared people make dumb mistakes.

  30. 38

    New LIBERAL - gimme most (hell, ALL) of your $$$$ spews:

    What’s impeachable sweetie is lying under oath

    Who was that again who was found in contempt of court by one of his own students?…

    Who was that again who’s law license was suspended for “dishonesty, deceit, fraud and misrepresentation”?…

    Who was that again that paid a few humungous penalties/fees/fines/settlements/payoffs… $25k to Arkansas bar,… $850,000 to Paula Jones,… $90,686 in sanctions for lying under oath?

    Oh that’s right, I forgot, it was all just a “vast right-wing conspiracy”.

  31. 40

    Harry Poon spews:

    RE: Liberal?Conservative Tacoma Mayor Bunghole: I’m glad you brought up “lying under oath” as that is the crux of the matter. Clinton was being questioned by a grand jury about something that had nothing to do with getting unauthorized blowjobs. In any other legal scenario but that of a grand jury the questions about blowjobs would have been irrelevant as they had nothing to do with what the grand jury was all about. But in Grand Jury investigations (and nothing else in these types of legal proceedings) ANY line of questioning is valid. That gay Rep. asshole whose name I forget and who spent countless tax dollars on his fruitless investigations, had prior knowledge of the blowjob(Linda Tripp) and deliberately asked Clinton about thhe blowjob, and Clinton(thinking that the blowjob had nothing to do with the legal proceedings) lied about the blowjob. BUT, since it was a grand jury, the blowjob lying was grist for the legal and “NEWS MEDIA” mill.(Remember the news media—the guys that always give Reps. a raw deal?) ran strong with the blowjob story(probably because they were worried about what conclusions children might draw from the story—HAH!). So, that’s your Rep. blowjob case against Clinton. You all make me sick!

  32. 41

    New LIBERAL - gimme most (hell, ALL) of your $$$$ spews:

    You all make me sick! -Comment by Harry Poon— 5/26/05 @ 11:18 pm

    GOOD!

    We LIKE being successful.

  33. 45

    Harry Poon spews:

    And what Rep Pres. did we drive out of office? I think the name was Nixon. And what Dem. Pres. did you run out of office? Well, I don’t think you want to go there . Bush is next on the list.

  34. 46

    New LIBERAL - gimme most (hell, ALL) of your $$$$ spews:

    Gregoire rated #48 of 50 governors… popularity rating down around 37%… 85% of Washingtonians don’t believe she won the election… bad news sweetie, that ain’t the definition of success!

  35. 47

    Harry Poon spews:

    This thing is far from over. And there’s a Dem. Governor here in WA ’til 2008. That’s a long time for a smart person to hold office as opposed to a Rep. idiot. This state might look pretty good compared to Texas by that time. You can fight against unions but you can’t beat them because they’re already organized—and they’re unions. If a Wal-Mart closes every time a union tries to organize(which, by the way, is legal), so much the better. We’ll close them all down. Who cares about you? Not me.

  36. 48

    Puddybud spews:

    Harry Poon: If you are going to have sex in the oval orifice, then go all the way. If you are going to commit adultery, go all the way. Otherwise keep it in your pants and shaddup about it. Regarding Gregore, we’ll see.

    Marilyn, I am waiting about why Hilary is such a darling? At least her husband was a conniving Arkansas coot,who had some polish. But she has no tact whatsoever. Pox on your house. I await the House Ethics committee meetings with open eyes. First up Dim McDimwitt.

    Dim, why did you turn those illegal wiretaps to the NY Slimes?
    Well, it was my constitutional duty.
    Dim, when did you receive a judge’s approval for the wiretap?
    I need approval. I am a democrapic congressman. When do I need permission to do anything unlawful? I follow Teddy Kennedy’s lead!
    Dim, how did you get the tapes?
    Golly, they just arrived by Fed-Ex or some other courier.
    Dim, do you know the Florida couple who illegally wiretapped the conversation?
    No, but they are great Americans?
    Dim, great Americans, but they broke the law?
    Yes, we democraps can break any law when it’s for the good of the country.

    What a crock!

    Pudster

  37. 51

    Marilyn spews:

    righton@36: I answered that in some detail in that thread: but I don’t mind repeating myself, I’ll try to keep it short. : I stand by the assertion that Ron Sims is a conservative. A Conservative attitude isn’t confined to a party label. My impression of Ron Sims is that his embrace of social justice and equality issues excludes gender and is confined only to males. I feel the same way about Joseph Lieberman. I believe that most male politicians are like that. (And, I think most males exhibit that to some degree) Their commitment to civil rights, equality, and social justice, stops when it comes to gender, and especially when it may affect some area of male entitlement. that attitude isn’t confined to one party. This is in our culture, and it is particularly evident in most religious cultures. Go read the other thread. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to expand on that.

  38. 52

    Marilyn spews:

    Puddybud@48: I don’t think Hillary is any more, or any less interesting than any other senator from the East Coast. I was just curious as to why you start frothing at the mouth at the mere thought of her. It is a hyper reaction and it is just ridiculous. How does Hillary affect your life? You spend a lot of time and energy on Hillary, and when you aren’t thinking about her, you’re obsessing over Bill Clinton. You remind me of those old farts in their 90′s who still obsess over FDR. (Though I’ve noticed that FDR is being given some negative attention again by the righties – they’ll start in on that uppity Eleanor soon. I guess when you reach that age there’s – nothing as exciting as living in the past – maybe you’re just ahead of your time). Marilyn

  39. 53

    righton spews:

    Marilyn; conservatives don’t have a lock on misogynism. Call him something else, but he ain’t a conservative.

  40. 54

    pbj spews:

    So much for impartiality on the Delay witch hunt:

    Prosecutor in probe of DeLay PAC raises funds for other side

    By MICHAEL HEDGES
    Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle Washington Bureau

    Travis County District Attorney Ronnie Earle, who denies partisan motives for his investigation of a political group founded by Republican leader Tom DeLay, was the featured speaker last week at a Democratic fund-raiser where he spoke directly about the congressman.

    A newly formed Democratic political action committee, Texas Values in Action Coalition, hosted the May 12 event in Dallas to raise campaign money to take control of the state Legislature from the GOP, organizers said.

    Earle, an elected Democrat, helped generate $102,000 for the organization.

    Source: http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/pr.....an/3188696

  41. 56

    Dr. Quest and Rance spews:

    According to Pat Buchanan the conservative movement is dead in America because there are no real conservatives left. He sputtered that angrily as the salad dressing dripped off his head.

  42. 57

    pbj spews:

    DYet another example of how the left turns to violence when they don’t have an argument. Thanks for reminding us.

  43. 58

    headless lucy spews:

    Violence? REPS>: 1-War in Iraq 2-inciting Conservative retards to kill judges 3-inciting same retards to kill abortion doctors 4- equating abortion with murder 5-killing Tilman and then spinning it into a patriotic story and obscuring the facts, etc….etc….etc…. Hell, it goes all the way back to those poor kids at Kent State U. “Pinkerton Detectives” The “old soldiers never die” guy killing all the WWI vets when they went to DC to try to get their benefits.

    DEMS>: 1- pie in the face 2-salad dressing on head……

    Keep this in mind: It could have been anything, but this time , it was a pie.

  44. 59

    Robert spews:

    Marsha Blackburn (r) TN. should go to jail WITH DeLay. She took 5,ooo from that PAC of his to get elected.The scumbag !