Jesus vs. Bill Donohue

Last night, in what is perhaps the most deliciously blasphemous episode of South Park ever (well… probably not,) a loose spoof of the Da Vinci Code ends with Jesus killing the Catholic League’s Bill Donohue. Hilarious. AlterNet has clips online — view ‘em while you can.

My favorite line:

Pope Benedict XVI: All right, that does it Bill. I’m pretty sure that killing Jesus is not very Christian.

My second favorite line, after Jesus tells Kyle to kill him so that he can resurrect outside their prison cell:

Kyle: Dude, you don’t understand, I’m a Jew. I have a few hang-ups about killing Jesus.

Comments

  1. 1

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Ironically, the so-called “Jesus Freaks” (aka Bible Thumpers) have no inhibitions about killing anyone! They especially seem to kill each other a lot. Every time you pick up a paper you read about another Bible-belt preacher’s wife wasting her cheating husband. Down there, they consider that legal hunting.

  2. 2

    Jeff spews:

    That was an awesome episode! I have to admit, I got the shivers when I heard the words, “New Pope, Pope Bill Donahue!” Ewwww….

  3. 3

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Florida Set To Restore Felon Voting Rights

    Florida, one of three states that still deprives felons of their civil rights for life, voted yesterday to reverse that 162-year-old policy:

    “TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (April 5) – Most felons released from prison will have their voting and other civil rights restored under a rule approved Thursday by Republican Gov. Charlie Crist and the state clemency board.

    “All but the most violent felons would avoid the need to get on a long list for a hearing before the board, which sometimes takes years. …

    “Crist has made it clear since before he was governor that he was in favor of making it easier for felons who have done their time to vote. He pushed the measure forcefully …. After someone has served their time, Crist said they should get their rights back as a matter of justice. …

    “Most other states automatically restore felons’ rights when they complete their sentences, probation or parole.”

    Quoted under Fair Use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://tinyurl.com/2es82u

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Now if only we could get Florida Republicans to restore the voting rights of law-abiding blacks who joined the Army and deployed to Iraq. http://tinyurl.com/jv9nf

  4. 4

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    “The Art of Hating Pelosi

    “Posted Apr 5th 2007 8:32AM by David Knowles

    “No, it didn’t start with the Speaker’s visit to Syria. The virulence that many on the right have been directing at Nancy Pelosi has been there for a while. You could say that she’s something of a perfect storm for conservatives. A liberal woman representing San Francisco, who ascends to her lofty perch following a stinging electoral defeat. To Republicans, Pelosi is just about the coarsest salt one could rub into their wounds. For some, … her gender is doubly troubling.

    “But back to the Syria visit. You can reasonably argue that meeting with Assad was not a good move, and you might also condemn Republican Congressman Joe Pitts for doing the same thing a week before Pelsoi, as well as Republican Darrell Issa for following Pelosi’s lead one day later. There’s a valid point that our government should present a unified front when dealing with state sponsors of terrorism. On the other hand, given the administration’s dismal leadership on Middle East matters, there’s also a case to be made that any communication is better than none.

    “Hey, at least Pelosi personally delivered a peace overture from the Israeli government to Mr. Assad. Those are legitimate topics for debate. But here’s what’s not: the fact that Pelosi donned a head-scarf.

    “To hear some commentators go on and on about how the first woman ever to attain the level of Speaker is setting back women’s rights! Now that’s some out-of-control spin. As Mitt Romney put it:

    ‘Her going to a state which is without question a sponsor of terror, and having her picture taken with Assad and being seen in a headscarf and so forth is sending the wrong signal to the people of Syria and to the people of the Middle East.’

    “Of course, it would be easy to point to the now-famous photo of Donald Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein, … but let’s just focus on the scarf. Before we waste another second of outrage on Ms. Pelosi’s headwear, here are two other pictures from the White House website that might be worth considering. Exhibit A, and Exhibit B.”

    Quoted under Fair Use; for complete article and/or copyright info see http://tinyurl.com/23re6x

    Note: To see Exhibit A and Exhibit B, go to the article and click on the links. These are photographs of Laura Bush wearing a head scarf inside a Muslim shrine.

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Let’s review: Pelosi’s visit to Syria was preceded and followed by visits of GOP congressmen. The White House web site sports official photos of Laura Bush wearing a Muslim head scarf inside a Muslim place of worship in the Middle East. Do I need to add that wingnuts bashing Pelosi for (a) visiting Syria and (b) wearing a head scarf (in respect of local culture and customs) are FUCKING HYPOCRITES?

  5. 5

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The point, of course, is that rightwingers criticize Democrats simply because they’re Democrats. When partisans bash you for doing exactly what their side does, there’s obviously no point to be made, and it’s only partisan bashing. In effect, they’re saying “we hate you because you’re you.” We liberals are above that sort of thing. We don’t hate Republicans simply because they’re Republicans.

    We hate them because they’re warmongers, torturers, liars, and thieves.

  6. 8

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Looks like Craigslist is going to get sued.

    “Home trashed after cruel Craigslist hoax

    “09:39 AM PDT on Thursday, April 5, 2007
    “By TRICIA MANNING-SMITH / KING 5 News

    “TACOMA, Wash. – Someone with cruel intentions placed a fake ad on Craigslist, inviting people to take whatever they wanted for free from a Tacoma home. Homeowner Laurie Raye says there’s little left now of the house. The outside of the home is trashed, the inside is nearly gutted and covered in graffiti. Raye … is devastated. ‘I was attached to this home because it used to be my mom’s, says Raye.”

    http://tinyurl.com/2sq9e5

    What the fuck is wrong with some people?!

  7. 9

    Reporterward spews:

    South Park. Proving the lie that conservatives aren’t funny, one episode at a time.

    No. The best line was the singing of “Here Comes Peter Cottontail” in Latin.

    As of note, I guess Roger is in line to be a Cardinal or Bishop.

  8. 10

    Minko spews:

    I’m sure I saw a pix of Condi wearing one too awhile back during one of her ME visits – oops, sorry, that was her with a bag over her head. Nevermind.

  9. 11

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    What Are They Planning To Do With This Thing?

    “Meet MOP, Boeing’s new bunker-busting super-bomb

    “By Tom Brown
    “Seattletimes.com
    “AP

    “Boeing’s Massive Ordnance Penetrator is prepared March 14 for a test at White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico in this photo by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency. The 30,000-pound bomb, which would be the heaviest in the U.S. arsenal, is designed to penetrate deeply buried targets.

    “As U.S. concern about the nuclear ambitions of North Korea and Iran have grown, weapons designers have been working on bombs capable of destroying those countries’ underground nuclear sites.

    “Some nuclear facilities in both countries are believed to be buried deep, so U.S. designers — including some from Boeing — are developing a new class of bombs for plowing through hundreds of feet of earth and concrete before detonating.

    “The latest of these weapons is the MOP — short for Massive Ordnance Penetrator — built by Boeing’s Advanced Systems unit in St. Louis. The 20-foot-long bomb that weighs 30,000 pounds …. The MOP was successfully tested earlier this month at White Sands, N.M. A Boeing handout last week made clear the weapon’s likely targets: ‘The weapon’s effectiveness against hard and deeply buried targets allows the warfighter to hold adversaries’ most highly valued military facilities at risk, especially those protecting weapons of mass destruction,’ said Bob McClurg, Boeing Advanced Systems MOP program manager. …

    “The recent White Sands MOP test was static — that is, the bomb was placed inside a tunnel and detonated. Testing later this year is to include dropping the bomb from a B-52 bomber onto an underground complex. Assuming it performs as expected, the government will decide whether to order and stockpile some of the bombs. …

    “The MOP is being developed in part because there are at least two major problems with nuclear weapons:

    “• A nuclear attack on Iran or North Korea would carry a heavy political and human price because radioactive fallout would spread hundreds of miles from the impact site. Hundreds of thousands of people would be exposed to potentially fatal levels of radiation. …

    “• No U.S. nuclear weapon are known to possess deep-penetration capability ….

    “The size of Boeing’s MOP presents a delivery challenge. There are only two planes in service that could deliver the bomb against significant air defense, the Northrop Grumman B-2 stealth bomber, which would have to be modified, and Boeing’s aging B-52.”

    Quoted under Fair Use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://tinyurl.com/34orbf

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Well, this should make Iran and N. Korea even more paranoid than they already are — develop a new bomb to blow them up with, and publish the fact you’re developing it on the front page of the newspaper. While you’re at it, keep our military safe by telling them which planes are going to drop it, so they’ll shoot at any B-1 or B-52 that comes within 500 miles of their borders. The public relations flacks at Boeing and the Pentagon need their heads examined.

  10. 12

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Oh, and don’t forget to mention we’ve got nuclear bombs for that job, too! That should encourage them to accelerate their own nuclear weapons programs. You know how this works: You nuke us, we’ll nuke you.

  11. 13

    Daddy Love spews:

    Conservatives? While South Park co-creator Matt Stone is a registered Republican, co-creator Trey Parker is actually a registered member of the Libertarian Party. Also, Parker and Stone declared All in the Family producer Norman Lear, who helped write a few episodes of South Park and founded the liberal political group People for the American Way, to be one of their heroes. More recently, both men have stated that their political views could be described most accurately as libertarian.

    I don’t think that makes them conservatives, who, as we all know, aren’t funny.

    As the show’s co-creator, Matt Stone, says: “I hate conservatives, but I really fucking hate liberals.”

    They’re pretty much taking on everyone.

  12. 14

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    If I were a dictator in N. Korea or Iran, I’d be building nuclear bombs and SAMs just as fast as I fucking could.

  13. 16

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I mean … South Park, for chrissakes. A show that glorifies dumb-ass ignorance and raunchy social behavior. These guys sure smell like conservatives.

  14. 18

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Would You Trust This Guy To Date Your Daughter?

    “Romney turning right in quest for White House
    “By Peter Wallsten
    “Los Angeles Times

    “BOSTON — As an abortion-rights advocate, Deborah Allen did not think she would find much in common with Mitt Romney. Then she heard his pitch. If elected Massachusetts governor, Romney said, he would ‘preserve and protect’ legal abortion. The judges he chose probably would do the same.

    “‘You need someone like me in Washington,’ he said, according to Allen and two other abortion-rights activists, who were deciding whether to endorse Romney in the 2002 race for governor. Allen believed he was sincere in his search for common ground.

    “Although running for state office, Romney hinted at national ambitions and said he would soften the GOP’s position on abortion. … Five years later, Romney is running for president and promising to pull the Republican Party in the opposite direction …. He has renounced his support for abortion rights and shifted his language on gay rights, campaign finance and other issues ….

    “He mocks Massachusetts, the state he led until January, as ‘sort of San Francisco East, Nancy Pelosi-style.’

    “Romney’s meetings with activists for abortion rights and other causes show he put a lot of work into winning support from the liberal establishment in Massachusetts only a few years ago. Making personal appeals to the state’s liberal touchstones — its gay-rights, abortion-rights and environmental activists — Romney, 60, convinced audiences he was committed to their cause.

    “In many cases, he said his commitment had been cemented by watching the suffering of someone dear to him: a grandchild with asthma, who left him worried about air pollution; his wife’s multiple sclerosis, which had him placing hope in embryonic-stem-cell research; a relative who died during an illegal abortion, showing him the procedure must remain legal. In discussing the need to combat global warming, he said he worried about his family’s favorite vacation spot.

    “‘He talked a lot about his kids and his family and the place they go to in New Hampshire on vacation,’ said Cindy Luppi, an official from the group Clean Water Action, who was impressed by Romney’s concern about global warming in a 2003 meeting and disappointed when he later pulled the state out of a regional compact on greenhouse gases. ‘We really see these as promises that were made and broken, and an ethical breach for a person of faith,’ Luppi said.

    “The Romney campaign said he never broke a promise he made to activists, and any discrepancies stemmed from faulty memories …. ‘People’s memories change with time,’ said Eric Fehrnstrom, an adviser to Romney when he was governor and as presidential candidate. …

    “Running for governor …, Romney insisted … he would be steadfast in supporting abortion rights. ‘I’m a strong believer in stating your position and not wavering,’ he said …. Romney also said his judicial choices would … protect abortion rights …. Romney also promised to fight efforts by some conservatives to require abstinence-only sex education in schools. And he presented himself as a future ally. ‘He said, “I will be a voice of reason” within the GOP, Allen [of NARAL] recalled.

    “Romney reversed his stance on abortion in 2005 and now calls himself ‘pro-life.’ He attributed his change of heart to insights about early human life that he gained during the debate over embryonic-stem-cell research. …

    “When Romney met with dozens of gay activists for an endorsement meeting in 2002, at a restaurant attached to a popular gay bar, some of his appeals were similar to those he had made on abortion rights. He promised the Log Cabin Republicans, a lobbying group for gay Republicans, that he would take up the fight against social conservatives on such issues as domestic partnerships for gays.

    “In seeking the Republican nomination for president, Romney strikes a different position. When addressing social conservatives, he makes fighting gay marriage and the 2003 Massachusetts court ruling that legalized it the cornerstone of his appeals. He has portrayed gay parenthood as a danger to children ….

    “Romney continued his courtship of the state’s liberal interest groups after winning the 2002 election. Weeks after taking office, he led … a news conference outside a coal-fired power plant … to demand that the plant draft a cleanup plan within a year. … In December 2005, Romney surprised even his own employees by pulling Massachusetts out of the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative agreement with other northeastern states. Although his team had taken a lead role in crafting it, the plan could prove too costly to power-plant owners and consumers, he said. …”

    Quoted under fair use; for complete story and/or copyright info, see http://tinyurl.com/2o4o2s

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: This guy is a liar, and he has changed sides on so many issues it’s obvious that liberal and moderate voters shouldn’t trust him. The interesting question is: Why should conservatives trust him? Why should anyone? He seems to tell audiences what he thinks they want to hear, then flip-flops again. He shows up on your porch promising to return your daughter home at 12:00 sharp, but she’ll come back at 5:00 a.m. barefoot and pregnant! If you can’t trust him to take out your daughter, you sure as hell can’t trust him to be president.

  15. 19

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Romney is a flip-flopper. Democrats need to hang that label on him, and make it stick to him all through the campaign. We must be relentless! Memorize this phrase and repeat it every time you meet a voter:

    ROMNEY IS A FLIP FLOPPER

  16. 21

    proud leftist spews:

    John McCain has blood on his hands. Of course, that won’t cause him any lost sleep. The Baghdad market he visited the other day (under heavy military cover) while the cameras were rolling was subsequently bombed because his visit had created the perception of American collaborators at the market. A dozen or so children died. Such consequence was predicted by more than one person. Way to go, John. Hope your little visit boosted your pathetic campaign.

  17. 22

    headless lucy spews:

    re 19: … and a goddam Mormon. Since they believe in the Angel Moroni, wouldn’t it make more sense to call them “Morons”?

  18. 23

    Richard Pope spews:

    Roger Rabbit @ 8

    Craig’s List is based out of heavily Democrat San Francisco:

    http://www.networksolutions.co.....gslist.com

    The people who burglarized and vandalized that home in Tacoma were probably Democrats. Studies of convicted felons in states with voter registration by party show that the vast majority are Democrats.

  19. 24

    ArtFart spews:

    4 Well, gee whillikers…to think that last night gave Janet credit for coming in here with an original thought. Turns out she’s just another mouth-breathing copy-and-paster like the other trolls.

  20. 25

    Richard Pope spews:

    “An off-duty Tacoma police officer noticed the Craigslist ad last week, inviting people to enter the unlocked house and take whatever they wanted. Later, that same officer noticed the ad was flagged and canceled after a reported burglary at the house.”

    WOW — the Tacoma Police Department was aware of the problem with the Craig’s List ad, but didn’t do anything about it until after the house was completely burglarized and vandalized.

    That is about what to expect in a Democrat-run city like Tacoma. A city especially infamous for installing a nut-case Democrat police chief — who owed his position to Democrat patronage, and murdered himself and his wife with his service revolver four years ago.

  21. 26

    Richard Pope spews:

    I wonder if the folks who burglarized and vandalized that home in Tacoma were also part of Mrs. Gregoire’s program or early release for convicted felons and no jail time for those who violate conditions of their probation?

    Thursday, April 5, 2007 – Page updated at 01:03 AM

    Early-release felon held in Federal Way rape, assault
    By Jennifer Sullivan

    Seattle Times staff reporter

    A felon who didn’t report to the Department of Corrections after being conditionally released from jail in February was arrested Wednesday in connection with the alleged rape of a former girlfriend and assault on her 3-month-old baby in Federal Way.

    Thomas Bienville, 36, who has convictions for rape, assault and attempting to elude police, was one of 82 felons the Department of Corrections (DOC) released on Feb. 23 because of overcrowding at the two King County jails.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....oc05m.html

  22. 27

    proud leftist spews:

    Pope @23, 25, and 26
    Are these posts a misguided attempt at humor? If you truly see events such as those described as the product of partisanship rather than sociopathy, then you need help. Criminals are Republicans, Democrats, independents, Christians, Muslims, agnostics, and every other shade of religious, political, or ethnic background. You understand that, don’t you?

  23. 28

    "Don’t talk black history to me Lily White Boy!" Puddybud's racial slur 3/26/07 @ 7:09 am 3/24 Open thread/GBS spews:

    PL @ 27:

    Of course he know’s that. You know it, I know it, and so does everyone else. But, in right-wing spin world you shape the arguement by only telling “half” truths.

    The easiest rule of thumb to know when a conservative is lying is when their lips are moving or they’re typing on a keyboard.

    If what they are saying seems to make sense, then you immediately know you haven’t gotten the whole story.

    Fucking liars.

  24. 29

    ArtFart spews:

    At this rate, Richard (if that’s really him) will soon be claiming that Jack the Ripper, Gary Ridgeway, John Dillinger, Atilla the Hun, Ivan the Terrible, Judas Iscariot, Fuggly the Klown and PDQ Bach are all Democrats.

  25. 30

    "Don’t talk black history to me Lily White Boy!" Puddybud's racial slur 3/26/07 @ 7:09 am 3/24 Open thread/GBS spews:

    You know what I’d like to see the Dem’s do next in the “Emergency War Spending” bill? Send the bill as is to Bush’s desk. Let him veto the money for the troops he “claims” to support.

    When the bill comes back to congress I hope Speaker Pelosi and Sen. Reid ask Bush what he needs stripped out of the bill in order for him to sign it.

    Then create a second piece of legislation exactly as he asked for it with no legislative strings attached.

    Since it’s congress’ responsibility to spend the people’s money prudently, they should assess how it is the United States of America came to this point in the War on Terror. After all, Bush claims Iraq is the central front on the War on Terror and we have to fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them over here, right?

    Before they send the “new” bill to Bush’s desk they should hold “Emergency” hearings next week. EVERYONE, clear your calendars, this is going to be a hectic week.

    Start by subpoenaing President Clinton. Ask him about the USS Cole bombing and if he really put the White House and the pentagon on a war footing?

    When the 2000 election was in dispute, did he keep both Gore and Bush apprised of his war plans?

    Was President Clinton really waiting for confirmation form the CIA as to al Qeada’s culpability?

    Then haul up Richard Clarke, Sandy Berger, Condi Rice, George Tennet, Dick Cheney, and everyone who was involved in national security during the transition.

    Get them all on the record.

    Then, get George W. Bush on sworn testimony and ask him;

    Six days after you became the President, why did you not take military action against al Qeada once the CIA confirmed their involvement in the Cole bombing?

    When you addressed NATO why didn’t you mention terrorism, al Qeada or bin Laden as threats to the west?

    Why did you ignore 50+ intel warnings of al Qeada’s intention to attack America?

    Why did you wait so long to meet with Richard Clarke the terrorism czar?

    Why didn’t you instruct the FAA to take preventative action when the Aug 8 PDB said “bin Laden determined to attack inside the United States with commercial airplanes?

    Why did you let members of the bin Laden family fly out of the United States before FBI investigators could question them at a time when no US citizens could fly?

    Why did you kick the weapons inspectors out of Iraq before they could finish their jobs?

    Let’s find out what Bush wants to defend more his lies or our troops. You cannot be a liar and at the same time say you support the troops. Their lives and the truth are inextricably linked.

    During a time of war, a war president should have no problem testifying before congress that his actions are noble, honest, and truthful. If Bush and Cheney lie, then we can Impeach them both simultaneously. Then we’ll see if Republicans support the troops and the Rule of Law or their party and president.

  26. 31

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @23 Richard, are you asking us to believe there are no rich internet tycoons in San Francisco who vote Republican, and no rubes in Tacoma who vote Republican? You’re no more credible than Flipflopper Romney. No wonder you can’t get elected to anything!

  27. 34

    spews:

    ArtFart:

    You mean PDQ Bach isn’t a Democrat?

    He certainly couldn’t be a Republican. We already know about their senses of humor (not to mention rhythm).

  28. 35

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Now ask yourself, folks … what kind of asshole would shoot his wife in the head, then kill himself, right in front of their little kids? No, that guy HAD to be a Republican!

  29. 36

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    David Brame had “Republican” written all over him! In fact, the autopsy showed he had an “R” tatooed on his ass.*

    * OK, so I made that up — so what? Pukes make up shit everyday, why should they have a monopoly on literary license? Besides, it wouldn’t surprise me if he did have an “R” tatooed on his ass.

  30. 37

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @27 “Criminals are Republicans, Democrats, independents, Christians, Muslims, agnostics, and every other shade of religious, political, or ethnic background.”

    But especially Republicans, which in and of itself is a form of sociopathy.

    See, Richard? Two can play this game.

  31. 39

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    The Tacoma burglary wasn’t stopped by the heavily Publican police department because the culprits were probably disgraced GOP lawyers who couldn’t get elected dog catcher.

  32. 40

    ArtFart spews:

    34 You’re right, John. If he were a Republican he’d stage the 1812 Overture so the cannon was lobbing live rounds into the audience, herd the cello section into a “free-bow” zone and remand the oboists to Ethiopia for interrogation.

  33. 41

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @30 Many of those questions are already answered in Sidney Blumethal’s book:

    “Bush’s approach in most situations seemed a reactive combination of calculations to avoid his father’s mistakes and to reject Clinton’s policies. This was especially clear in international affairs: in his first nine months he reversed Clinton’s policy toward China, proclaiming it no longer a ‘strategic partner’ but a ‘strategic competitor’; in the Middle East, by withdrawing U.S. involvement in the negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians; toward Korea, by abandoning the negotiated accord that had frozen the North’s nuclear program and by humiliating President Kim of South Korea, who was promoting North-South reconciliation, during his March 2001 visit to the White House, contributing to a wave of anti-Americanism in a country that was among the staunchest American allies; by withdrawing U.S. support from the Kyoto treaty on global warming; and by forsaking Clinton’s efforts to address the dangers of international terrorism.

    “During the transition between administrations, National Security Adviser Sandy Berger arranged several extensive briefings on this last subject for Bush’s incoming national security adviser, Condoleeza Rice, and others on the Bush team, including Vice President Cheney. One briefing lasted half a day. Berger told them that Osama bin Laden was an ‘existential threat’ and told them that he wanted ‘to underscore how important this issue is.’ In another briefing, Richard Clarke, head of counterrorism in the NSC, the single most knowledgeable expert in the government, gave them a complete tutorial on the subject. In yet another briefing, CIA officials were brought in to go over all the intelligence available on terrorism.

    “Don Kerrick, a three-star general and outgoing deputy national security adviser, overlapped for four months with the new Bush people. He submitted a memo for the new National Security Council warning of the danger of terrorism. ‘We are going to be struck again,’ he wrote. But as Kerrick explained to me, he received no answer to his memo. ‘They didn’t respond,’ he said. ‘They never responded. It was not high on their priority list. I was never invited to one meeting. They never asked me to do anything. They were not focusing. They didn’t see terrorism as the big megaissue that the Clinton administration saw it as. They were concentrated on what they thought were higher priorities than terrorism.’ The Principals meeting of national security officials took up terrorism only once, after constant pressure from Clarke, on September 4, 2001, and at that meeting they discussed using unmanned Predator drone spy aircraft, but no decision was made. ‘Unfortunately,’ said Kerrick, ‘September 11 gave them something to focus on.’”

    — Sidney Blumenthal, The Clinton Wars (New York: Farrar, Strauss, and Giroux, 2003), pp. 797-798.

  34. 42

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Will the so-called moral majority support Rompin Rudy who supports abortion? The Publicans might have trouble here. They can’t use abortion to rally their inbred base since they’d have to rally the morons against their own candidate. Page 1 of the Rove playbook won’t work. What now?

  35. 45

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    No, no, certainly the oddest of J.S. Bach’s thirteen-odd children must be a Democrat…..

  36. 46

    Daddy Love spews:

    @21 PL

    Actually, in the market McCain visted there was a sniper (one or more) the next day, and yesterday 21 people were kidnapped from that same market, bound, and executed (shot to the head) in Northern Baghdad.

    The bombing you’re talking about (where “a dozen or so children died”) was in Kirkuk in the north of Iraq, the same day as the above kidnappings.

  37. 48

    Daddy Love spews:

    You know what Pelosi is doing? She’s showing America that the Democrats have a separate and different foreign policy from the “kill ‘em all, let God sort ‘em out” Republicans. It’s one where we TALK to people instead of shoot them. It’s one where we DO things instead of do nothing. It’s one in which we ENGAGE instead of threaten. And it’s one that gets RESULTS and not coffins.

    More of that as the Republicans resist giving up their pet war. White House 2008.

  38. 49

    Daddy Love spews:

    Matt Yglesias reports someone named Ben Smith reporting: “And Pollster.com says the Diageo Hotline poll coming out today has a generic Democrat beating a generic Republican 47%-29%.”

    Matt says, “whoa.”

    Indeed. Who has seen ANYTHING like those numbers before?

  39. 51

    Daddy Love spews:

    Syria now says they persuaded Iran to let go of the British sailors. Hmmm…maybe Nancy Pelosi did the whole thing herself?

  40. 52

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    I think I’ll let the dust clear a little bit on that one before I draw any conclusions. . . .

  41. 54

    proud leftist spews:

    DL
    Thanks for the clarification. I heard the story on the radio coming into work, and probably should have sought verification. Nonetheless, the point remains valid–McCain caused, in a foreseeable manner, the deaths of Iraqi civilians.

  42. 55

    Libertarian spews:

    Was Jesus a Catholic or a Protestant? I know he was born a Jew, but didn’t he convert??

    Just kidding…

  43. 56

    "Don’t talk black history to me Lily White Boy!" Puddybud's racial slur 3/26/07 @ 7:09 am 3/24 Open thread/GBS spews:

    RR @ 41:

    True enough they were answered in Sidney’s book, but its not sworn testimony before congress.

    By putting Bush in the position of getting the bill exactly as he publicly demanded, and as Commander in Chief having to testify before congress is how we’ll get his balls in the ultimate vice. All of those crooked bastards!!

    It’s wholly appropriate for the Commander in Chief to testify before congress how he has been conducting the war and how he is going to achieve victory.

    There is nothing out of bounds about that. And, for the tesimony that is too sensitive for public consumption, it can be done in secret, but yet still under oath, in congress.

  44. 57

    "Don’t talk black history to me Lily White Boy!" Puddybud's racial slur 3/26/07 @ 7:09 am 3/24 Open thread/GBS spews:

    @ 55:

    Technically, he did convert when he was baptized by John. It’s all in the Book of Matthew.

  45. 58

    Libertarian spews:

    Technically, he did convert when he was baptized by John. It’s all in the Book of Matthew.

    =======

    But what did he convert to? Chriatianity (Catholic or Protestant or Orthodox) didn’t exist when Jesus here.

  46. 60

    "Don’t talk black history to me Lily White Boy!" Puddybud's racial slur 3/26/07 @ 7:09 am 3/24 Open thread/GBS spews:

    @ 58:

    The long and the short of it is John The Baptist’s ministry had just come to its peak and Jesus convinced John to Baptize him. Jesus took over John’s ministry of faith and started his own. Knowing he was the Son of God, he is technically then the first Christian.

    Truth be told, of all the sects of Christianity, only Catholicism can trace its roots to Pentecostal Sunday. All other forms of Christianity are offshoots that came hundreds, and in some cases more than 1,000 years after the death of Jesus.

    Go figure.

  47. 61

    Puddybud Who Left The Reservation spews:

    GBS blogged: Then haul up Richard Clarke, Sandy Berger, Condi Rice, George Tennet, Dick Cheney, and everyone who was involved in national security during the transition.

    -Yes, have Sandy Burglar FINALLY tell us what he stuffed next to his dick and feet and hid under the trailer. Tell us about all the Nat’l Security docs he destroyed. Tell us why he did it. Tell us who knew he did it. Tell us who is he covering for.

    -Yes, have Richard Clarke tell us why he alone authorized the Bin Laden family out of the US.

    I’ll cancel everything to watch C-SPAN for that GBS!

  48. 62

    Puddybud Who Left The Reservation spews:

    GBS: How can you claim that regarding Catholicism in #60?

    Rather than discuss how the Roman Catholic church left the tenets delivered by Jesus and the original Christian fathers (before 300 AD) on this blog, where most from your side NEVER cracked open a Bible through self-motivation, and make fun of things of Jesus, we can have that discussion over lunch sometime.

    I will say one thing: The church Jesus founded was based in God, His laws and Jesus’ demonstration of love. It was the Romans who sent the “Jesus” sect to the lions den, made them Roman Candles, or tore them apart in chariot pulls.

    The Roman Catholic Church publicly states their belief that the church has the right to modify the commands of God. The Councils of Nicaea, Constantinople, and Ephesus started the deviations. Where is that Biblically found?