by Goldy, 02/21/2005, 12:10 AM

I know some of you may find our friend Josef’s obsession with Dino Rossi spokesbabe Mary Lane a little annoying, but I find his youthful infatuation kind of cute… in a somewhat disturbing, Holden Caulfield sort of way.

So I don’t really mind the fact that he tried to freep me today.

Apparently distraught over his lady’s poor showing in my current stupid, lame-ass poll, Josef asked his pals over on Free Republic for help in freeping her numbers up. Love is always a noble cause, but alas they didn’t realize that I was cruelly toying with them from the start.

Every so often I’d take a break from my gardening, grab myself a glass of seltzer or a cup of tea… and change the poll results. Sometimes she’d go ahead for a while, and then suddenly she’s knocked back 25 points. (By now, Josef should be getting used to almost winning at the polls.)

It was rather amusing watching these people furtively (and futilely) work to manipulate a joke poll… especially considering the fact that the joke is at their expense. My lame-ass poll’s whole purpose is to poke fun at these bullshit online polls, so easily freeped as to make them utterly meaningless.

I mention this attempted freeping not just to poke well-deserved fun at Josef’s lovelorn e-stalking, but as an exclamation mark on my recent comments about the right-wing echo chamber. While only a handful of comrades came to Josef’s aid, national polls are often freeped by the tens of thousands. These are people so disrespectful of the opinions of others, that they will joyfully vandalize any public forum (like an online poll) in hopes of manipulating the public perception of public opinion.

That, my friends, is what we’re up against — not just the corporate propagandists foisting their fake news on an unsuspecting public — but a legion of amateur Goebbels wannabes, so eager to be part of a cause that they’ll even waste a beautiful, sunny, Sunday afternoon, pathetically freeping a joke poll.

The only thing more passionate than true love, is a true believer.

48 Responses to “Jeepers Freepers”

1. Erik spews:

I know some of you may find our friend Josef’s obsession with Dino Rossi spokesbabe Mary Lane a little annoying

Yes. And now he will likely to continue to spam HA for the next month because he finally….finally…got someone to acknowledge him.

2. Don spews:

Now if only you could figure out how to hack Free Republic.

3. jpgee spews:

Great one Goldy. I have always been a little hard on Josef and his infatuations (both with Dino, Marumy and himself). I guess I should give him a break now. He probably did have to take his meds and chil out. Exhausted cyber stalker that he is……lmao

Hey, maybe we can ‘train’ him to start stalking cynicalidiot, micah, zio etc…the troll brigade……that would be cute

4. Dave spews:

I remember when this same thing happened with a CNN online poll last year. The topic question was, “Who won the latest presidential debate?” and the choices were Bush, Kerry and Didn’t Watch. For a few days Kerry lead the poll by a pretty good margin, but then one Saturday Bush gained over 50 percentage points in less than 5 hours to take the lead. CNN removed the poll a while later and replaced it with a question about who would win the World Series.

5. zapporo spews:

Where’s your hometraining?

Now we see the true colors of wacko liberalism so vividly displayed here. Blame moderates and conservatives for tilting polls while you demonstrate the absolute rapacity to do so yourself? Yes this was a joke that highlighted your true tendencies so very well. This is really a substantial thread. What’s next? Something about farting? Get a life! Seriously, this is why SoundPolitics is such a better blog – Class! Dealing with the real issues. Trying to make a real difference in the world. You might want to try that sometime.

6. Mr. Cynical spews:

So your newest “low-level of morality” tactic in to encourage stalkers??? Josef often has some reasonable points to make…but they get watered down with his disturbing obsession.
If you haven’t noticed Goldy…it’s getting worse. Where do you draw the line?

7. Chee spews:

Insight allows one to separate true colors from untrue colors. People believe easily what they hope for earnestly. Tis better to spare the luxery of believing all things beautiful are what they seem. Politics is a long nose profession. It’s most striking defect is that it divides and conceals. Some politicians are like quick-silver, if you try to put your finger on them, you find nothing under it. The Rossi case has nothing under it’s belt but bloat.

8. RonK, Seattle spews:

Josef is youthful??? Oh, dear. I pictured him as a lecherous house-bound septagenarian with a diminished capacity for fantasy.

This is more serious than I thought.

9. Liking it spews:

Wait, . . . Did I read that right? You admit that Josef (a Rossi supporter) encouraged his republican friends to vote for Lane, and then you changed the results of the vote?

Way to set the example for integrity in vote counting!

10. marks spews:

Goldy -

“My lame-ass poll’s whole purpose is to poke fun at these bullshit online polls, so easily freeped as to make them utterly meaningless.”

I don’t know why anyone would pay attention to an online poll, but I had to laugh at your counter-machinations…

Liking it @ 9

Sounds like something we saw during the nauseating hand-recount…

11. Goldy spews:

Zapporo @5, Liking it @9,

Yeah, well, your moralizing conveniently misses the point. No online poll should ever be taken seriously, but mine is clearly, and quite intentionally… a joke.

12. carla spews:

So you’re the site that spawned Josef. He’s migrated over to Preemptive Karma. Thanks.

13. Goldy spews:


Josef has a long history of passionately supporting, crank, hopeless political campaigns. He was an early supporter of the “Tim Eyman is a Horse’s Ass” Initiative, way before he glommed on to Rossi’s futile “re-vote” campaign. He was also one of the first people to comment regularly here, when I turned the site into a blog last May.

So I guess I have a special fondness for him. But that doesn’t prevent me from needling him once in a while.

14. swatter spews:

Changing voting results? Where have I heard that before?

15. zapporo spews:


Please go back and actually read my post next time before you respond.
I got the joke.
It was quite funny
I even voted for Mary Lane
But deep in your heart, you know that I am correct.
You could do so much more with this blog.
Examples – sustainable environmentalism (e.g., jobs and trees), public volunteerism (e.g., habitat for humanity), reducing deficit spending (e.g., waste and fraud), real education reform etc, etc…
Winning peoples’ hearts and minds.
The conservatives are winning because we/they work on real issues and thus gather an increasing percentage of the public’s positive mind share. You can see the difference by just visiting the web site that I refered to. If you want to successfully promote a liberal agenda, then you have to take some of these issues on. Fight the good fight. Do some good. Ultimately, everyone in our community will benefit.

16. Mr. Cynical spews:

Trying to convince Goldy and the other Lefty’s here to actually be FOR something positive is hopeless.
They are only wired to be AGAINST things (although when you call them on it..they try like hell to twist their pathetic comments into something positive).
This Utopian Marxist crowd is primarily CAVE people…….

17. Don spews:

We’re FOR lots of things but Cynical is too lazy to find out. Here’s a little something to get him started:

The American Liberal Creed

Liberals recognize the value and rights of all people;
Liberals recognize that we share the world with others;
Liberals support the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights
and champion their equal application to all citizens;
Liberals champion knowledge above ignorance, learning above dogma;
Liberals recognize that the concept of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is futile without education, healthcare and employment;
Liberals recognize that government of the people, by the people, and for the people is for the service and protection of all, regardless of economic status;
Liberals recognize that public works and institutions serve the public interest, and taxes support those works and institutions;
Liberals recognize that “every person for themselves” leads not to a diverse, enlightened and viable society, but only to jungle-like “survival of the fittest”;
Liberals recognize that an individual, not government, controls their own body;
Liberals recognize that neither government nor commerce is suitable to meet all of our nation’s challenges, that there is a place for both;
Liberals propagate this message, defend it, and vote for and support those who do.

© Warren Brown

18. JCH spews:

17….What a crock of sh!t!! Liberals: “From each, according to their abilities [Republicans], to each, according to their needs [Democrats].” [Marx] And Democrats have unlimited needs. [kind of like "guvment" pigs at the trough like you, Don]

19. Mr. Cynical spews:

Once again, it appears a 30-year career State Government Attorney is the wrong messenger to those of us who actually work and create wealth & jobs in this Country. Don, you are merely a bottom-feeder who continually tries to validate your lifes wasted efforts. However Don…you have been successful in getting the ultimate handout..your PERS1 PENSION!!
You da man!!!!!

20. jpgee spews:

Cynicalidiot, if you think Don is a bottom feeder, then what shall we call you? Troll is to soft as you seem to be about 38 levels below Don in all matters. Give us your new nickname Troll!!

21. Mount Olympus Hiker spews:

Well put, Don! You summed it up nicely with that list from Warren Brown.

22. Jeff B. spews:

I feel the same way about Josef’s infatuation with Mary Lane as I do about about Goldy’s obsession with Lame Ass Polls.

There both pretty pathetic.

23. Josef the Dinocrat in Marummy Country spews:

This is all very funny to me. I just figured since Goldy called Mary a liar, I had to hit back.

I only liase w/ Free Republic until the Revote is over. Then I will tell them that because I Blog 4 [U.S.] Senator Cantwell (Click on my name) – who I don’t know and do not call an affectionate nickname – I need to leave. My cheerleading for ANY Democrat, much less a great one would make me persona non grata.

Okay, that leaves Marummy. As you probably know, I have compared her to U.S. SecDef Donald Rumsfeld because of their fiestyness. I also love her as a friend and salute her as my Secretary of Defense for defending A-L-L of our votes from vote dillution.

And yes, “carla”, this site “spawned Josef”.

Let me close w/ this: Every day, I pray that if the “Re-Vote!” sign was blue and not red & if it were Gregoire, I would be w/ her and at her side – even though I despise her, I despise her love of opaque governance, I despise her love of tax & spend and regulations, and I despise her for doing more damage to the State Democratic Party than a Howard Dean, MD could fix. That said, I pray to an Almighty that if the election was this messed up and somehow Rossi won, then I would be w/ Gregoire calling for a Re-Vote!

24. Josef the Dinocrat in Marummy Country spews:

Oh and for a Marummy Picture – go to

25. Goldy spews:

Josef… you’re back!

For the record, my point was that Mary Lane is a “spokesperson,” a professional PR hack, and as such her job is not to independently tell the truth, but rather, to twist words to the advantage of her client. Has she knowing lied? Well, that’s difficult to prove; should just be wrong. But she has certainly said many untruthful things over the past several months.

26. JCH spews:

Hey Don…..I bet you are against Bush’s privatize accounts for Social Security [risky!], but as a “guvment” employee hack, you sure demand your private sector inventments in your “guvment” retirement plan. “All animals are equal, but “guvment” hack employees are more equal than others”, right Don? [Goldy, feel free to chime in here!]

27. Don spews:

JCH @ 18

After you make your fortune (as a day trader, slumlord, or whatever) you should buy a deserted island and live happily ever after there. You would do well in an environment that requires no social interaction whatsoever.

28. Don spews:

Cynical @ 19

Didn’t you say you’re a CPA? What the hell have you ever “produced” besides helping clients not pay taxes? At least the company I started — which you make fun of because I didn’t make money — actually manufactured and sold something.

29. Don spews:

Josef @ 23

I hate to be the one to break this to you, but you’re wasting your time praying, because God is not on YOUR side.

30. Don spews:

Marummy @ 24

You need to get some acme cream for those zits, babe.

31. Don spews:

I mean acne. (What genius put the “m” next to the “n” on this keyboard anyway? Must be another Microsoft foul-up.)

32. Don spews:

Goldy @ 25

Technically, it isn’t lying when you believe your own crap. It’s merely “inaccuracy” or “interpretation” or something like that.

33. Don spews:

JCH @ 26

Every cent I get in my pension check is money that was taken from my paychecks. I’m not even drawing on the interest yet. The employer doesn’t kick in a dime unless I outlive my own contributions + interest, but any economist would point out to you that the employer contribution is my money, too, because it was paid into the pension system in lieu of a higher salary. That is, if the state (as an employer) didn’t offer a pension benefit they would have to offer higher salaries to attract workers.

34. JCH spews:

Don..Let’s talk about “guvment” employees retirement plans. [hehe....this is right our of Animal Farm. Only a liberal Democrat can justify "guvment" workers not in the Social Security system] BTW, retired stockbroker, living on the Big Island of Hawaii. Mahalo, Asshole!

35. Don spews:

JCH @ 26 (continued)

Oh, I forgot to mention, I’ll offer you a deal on the privatized SS accounts. I’ll support it if you’ll put up the $10 trillion up front. But don’t ask me to support another $10 trillion of deficit spending by this fiscally irresponsible administration. We’re already well on our way toward emulating Argentina’s economy.

36. torridjoe spews:

Don, once somebody calls you “asshole,” I think they’ve effectively lost the debate. Let him stew.

37. JCH spews:

Don, hypocite. Why not just have “guvment” employees return to the social security system that you insist is the best way to go? This would include you, Don! You “civil servant” parasites are without shame, and most of you could NEVER make it in the private sector. BTW, most on this board know that your posts are BS. Hypocite Don..right out of the pig’s house in the book “Animal Farm”.

38. JCH spews:

TorridJoe…[36]..Does that mean I don’t have to turn over about 40% of my income to support “guvment” hacks like Don? Keep in mind that it isn’t DON that supports me, but the other way around. Kind of like a dog and a tick. Don sucks and sucks blood out of the host. Kind of like a welfare parasite, only with a “guvment” hack job.

39. Josef the Dinocrat in Marummy Country spews:

Comment by Goldy— 2/22/05 @ 9:34 am

You’re forgiven. Just call her a “spinster” and note definition #3 if you like. In fact, I LOVE that one!

40. Don spews:

JCH @ 34

I’m not sure if you’re referring to that hoary old right wing internet fable that Congressmen get luscious tax-financed pensions in place of Social Security; but if so, you must be slow to get news in the Islands because that system was changed in 1984.

Unless I’m mistaken, some federal workers do have a separate pension system and don’t pay SS taxes. Having never worked for the federal government, expect for a part-time stint in the post office when I was a college student, I don’t know much about the federal pension system. Why do you assume I support a SS exemption for federal workers? State workers have to pay into both the state pension system and SS, and those deductions were MORE than self-employed folks pay into SS — about 14% off the top before income taxes. If you worked for the state under the old PERS 1 system, you actually saw about 60% of your gross. But I digress. The federal workers who don’t pay Social Security taxes don’t get SS benefits. Period. I believe there’s also a separate retirement system for railroad workers in lieu of SS. I really don’t know what the historic/political/economic reasons for these federal worker and RR pension setups are, but I suspect a big part of the reason is because those systems predated Social Security, and were simply left in place or grandfathered in.

41. Don spews:

torridjoe @ 36

Yeah, I must be getting to them, so they can call me all the names they want! I especially like the “asshole” one, because I am in fact an asshole — and proud of it. Would you want to be represented by an attorney who ISN’T a bigger asshole than the guy you’re suing or getting sued by?

42. Don spews:

JCH @ 37

I paid Social Security taxes every day I worked for the state government. What don’t you get some facts before spewing horse applies, you lying sack of shit?

43. torridjoe spews:

JCH @ 37, 38

I wish I knew what your comment to me had to do with mine. It’s a total non-sequitur.

And you’re not correct about federal employees. They’ve been covered by Social Security for 21 years now.

Really, some of you folks should crack a book or two before you open your mouths.

44. torridjoe spews:

don @41
I can’t recall who said it, but someone once said the secret to business success was hiring raging assholes as your accountant and your lawyer…and to tell both of them that the other one is a lying rat bastard trying to rip you off.


45. Don spews:

torridjoe @ 44

I’m your friend, but your CPA — Cynical — is a lying rat bastard trying to rip you off.

46. Jpgee spews:

lol…..nice don

47. JCH spews:

Okay–let’s see. I have my Rollover IRA from my former 401k, and my Simple IRA Account. Let’s see–all the money I put in as long as 20 years ago is still there. mmm-hmmm, okay. Hey, it’s even grown quite a bit, too! And I can eventually pass it on down to my kids if I want…

And now–all that money that I’ve put into Social Security over the years. Let’s see where THAT is—OH LOOK! It’s not there! What happened to it??? Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell took it and left me with a pile of IOU’s! Gone. Just plain gone.

Which sounds more like gambling, Don???????

48. Chee spews:

The practical effect of a belief is the real test of it’s soundess. Spokespersons, as in RICE, are hired to cover for the ass they serve. Their duty is to straddle that fine line between truth and deception. It’s rightfull name is PROPAGANDA. There is big bucks paid to spokespersons that can cover a barren ass with see-thru-less material. Propoganda has a high survival rate, been around for eons, well-used and circulated in order to convince the gullible unobserving grey masses of other than what is REALLY so. Glad your not one of the grey people Goldy.