Inflammatory Democratic Rhetoric

Clearly, Rep. Filner should be ashamed of himself for demonizing the opposition, and resorting to such inflammatory rhetoric.

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  1. 1

    What do you expect spews:

    Facts, reality and even video doesn’t mean anything. The other side has “faith” and “beliefs” and “gut feelings”. You could show 1,000,000 pages of research proving your point, they’ll just dismiss it. You can’t prove something to someone who doesn’t follow reality to begin with.

  2. 2

    ratcityreprobate spews:

    Narcissism in American society is so pervasive as to be considered almost normal – so much so that the American Psychiatric Association reportedly is considering removing it from its diagnostic manual.

  3. 3

    Steve spews:

    Yeah, that was a really ugly scene. But the ramped up right-wing hate machine had absolutely nothing to do with the attempted assassination of a Democrat. To disagree with this is to incite violence. Or so I’m told.

  4. 4

    Deathfrogg spews:

    Its always the same. Same people, same rhetoric. Same antisemitism at the roots.

    You ain’t fooling anyone people. That little teabag cannot hide your swastika.

  5. 7

    Chuck spews:

    Here is a test for you guys, did the Clinton crime bill outlaw the SKS or AK47? Did it outlay folding stocks? Did it outlaw high capacity magazines? The answer is no to all the above, all it did was to make it illegal to bye a SKS after the ban and buy (still available) folding stocks and buy a 30 round clip after the ban and marry those items together. If you had a pre ban SKS you were good to go anyway, as you were grandfathered in.

  6. 8

    ratcityreprobate spews:

    #6 Beats the shit out of me, I don’t know you, but what it means is that those screaming loons in the video will be considered normal because we have so many screaming loons in this Country that it is the new normal.

  7. 9

    Tondaleo Lipshitz spews:

    re 7: That’s very interesting. What’s your point as far as the topic of inflammatory rhetoric goes?

    Is it your position that it’s Bill Clinton’s fault people are being murdered for political reasons because of some obscure rules in a gun bill?

    I may be reading you wrong, but you sound as if what you just said is some kind of triumphant GOTCHA, when it’s actually irrelevant drivel.

  8. 10

    Tondaleo Lipshitz spews:

    re 8: I was trying to be clever. You were talking about narcissism and my only question was ‘how does it affect me?’

  9. 11

    Ekim spews:

    Question: where did the Tea Party come from? Is it a grass roots organization as we have been told or was it planned and executed by David Koch for his own reasons?

    In an April 9, 2009 article on ThinkProgress.org, Lee Fang reports that the principal organizers of Tea Party events are Americans for Prosperity and Freedom Works, which it described as two “lobbyist-run think tanks” that are “well funded” and that provide the logistics and organizing for the Tea Party movement from coast to coast. Media Matters reported that David Koch of Koch Industries was a co-founder of Citizens for a Sound Economy (CSE). David Koch was chairman of the board of directors of CSE.[32] CSE received substantial funding from David Koch of Koch Industries, which is the largest privately-held energy company in the country, and the conservative Koch Family Foundations, which make substantial annual donations to conservative think tanks, advocacy groups, etc. Media Matters reported that the Koch family has given more than $12 million to CSE (predecessor of FreedomWorks) between 1985 and 2002.

    From Americans for Prosperity

  10. 13

    Rujax! spews:

    How a really miniscule band of deranged odiots got control of this country is compltetly beyond me…and profoundly depressing.

  11. 14

    Tondaleo Lipshitz spews:

    I’ll bet David Koch considers a ‘sound economy’ as one that continues to allow him to have billions while others have nothing.

    His father made a lot of money wotking for Stalinist Russia.

  12. 15

    czechsaaz spews:

    @6

    Every now and then someone gets off “funny line of the day.” Well played sir. Sorry it went for a bloop single over the head of the comically challenged.

  13. 16

    Deathfrogg spews:

    Hermann Goering in his cell during the Nuremburg trials:

    “Why, of course, the people don’t want war,” Goering shrugged. “Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.”

    “There is one difference,” Gilbert pointed out. “In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.”

    “Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”

    Source: Gilbert, G.M. Nuremberg Diary.
    New York: Farrar, Straus and Company, 1947 (pp. 278-279).

    Incidentally, Gilbert himself is the primary suspect in the smuggling of the cyanide capsules into Goerings cell that he used to commit suicide before his sentence could be carried out.

    The Conservatives in this country want war. It is their primary motivational force. Aggression, the use of violent imagery and atavistic rhetoric are the tools of dictatorship and totalitarianism. They desire all that war brings to a nation. The expeditions into Vietnam, the Philippines, Iraq, Afghanistan etc bear that out.

    The method of blowing through a narrow section of a countries defenses, leaving much of their military capability intact to mop up later, is the method of conquest. It is the method of Empire. It has nothing to do with defense. It is the right wing conservative method of military campaign.

    That method leaves an enemy with too much of its capability intact and extends the conflict by forcing them into a protracted guerrilla campaign, relying on the civilian infrastructure to maintain its capabilities. That in turn requires the conquering forces to target that infrastructure in the course of defeating its enemy.

    That IS is the method of Fascism.

  14. 17

    Tondaleo Lipshitz spews:

    re 15: We are all so earnest here, sometimes a joke is hard to recognize.

    Even Troll says something funny now and again. Makes me doubt that he’s the dipshit he works so hard at being.

    If ever a person hid their light under a bushel, it’s Troll.

  15. 18

    spews:

    Can’t believe it. Barely two years into the term of this President and we’re already talking about silly season coming up. Mittens Romney is getting prepped:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Business.....d=12602469

    Well good thing the last Congress was a “do something” Congress. Maybe it didn’t do nearly enough but something is better than nothing and we might not see anything like again it for a while.

  16. 20

    Steve spews:

    Eric Fuller, a 63-year-old disabled veteran and one of the shooting survivors, “It looks like Palin, Beck, Sharron Angle and the rest got their first target. Their wish for Second Amendment activism has been fulfilled.”

    Why is he trying to incite violence with this blood libel?? Why is he dissing the real victims of the Tuscon tragedy?? heh- He must be some lefty commie-fascist.

  17. 22

    Rujax! spews:

    @20…

    LOL Steve…I’d say “great minds thinking alike” but I’d be lying about myself!

  18. 23

    Steve spews:

    @22 heh- Beat ya by a minute!

    How insensitive of that man not to mourn along with America for the true victims of the Tuscon massacre, Palin and Limbaugh.

  19. 25

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Michael Steele is out as RNC chairman. Too bad. I was looking forward to the RNC’s next sex club junket … as an observer, of course.

  20. 27

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    WikiLeaks: Making The World Better One Country At A Time

    Righties hate WikiLeaks because secrecy is a dictator’s best friend.

    “Tunisia’s president has stepped down, fleeing the country he ruled for 23 years after a citizens’ revolt fanned by WikiLeaks disclosures about his regime’s corruption and economic mismanagement.”

    http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01.....wikileaks/

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Yay for WikiLeaks! I can hardly wait to see what they’ve got on Rupert Murdoch.

  21. 29

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @16 Vietnam, Afghanistan I, Iraq, Afghanistan II …

    Guerillas 2 Wins, 2 Ties, 0 Losses
    Superpowers 0 Wins, 2 Ties, 2 Losses

  22. 30

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @28 Yeah, any day now, and a whole bunch of other shit if Assange gets extradited to Sweden for doing Swedish girls.

  23. 32

    rhp6033 spews:

    In 2008, Limbaugh wailed against the support for Obama. He made it clear to his listeners that he considered Obama’s support to be invalid, because people were supporting him only because he was a “Halfrican”. Other rightwing commentators did likewise, some more explicitly, hitting two birds with one stone by criticizing both black voters and Obama, claiming that they were being ignorant in voting for Obama only because of his race.

    Because, as we all know from Conservative talking points going way back, no black man could ever be qualified to lead white people, without special assistance and consideration and “Affirmative Action”.

    But Obama’s election really shook them up. It wasn’t even close. And Republicans lost control of the Senate, to boot.

    Then, suddenly, Michael Steel is elected to head the GOP. A black Republican. And you sure can’t find many of them in a roomful of party movers and shakers.

    Was Micheal Steele the most qualified person for the job in the entire GOP? I’ve always suspected that his skin color made up 95% of Steele’s qualifications for the job. in early 2009, as the GOP lay in shambles and couldn’t decide to tack right, left, or go through the center, it seemed safest to bet that the answer to a black President was a black leader of the GOP.

    But now that his usefullness as a black figurehead has been deemed to be insufficient, the GOP has decided that Steele has to go.

    It reminds me of the bathroom scene from Trading Places – the Duke brothers are discussing the fate of Louis Winthrop III (Dan Akroyd) and Billy Ray Valentine (Eddie Murphy). Although Valentine had done what he was supposed to do, he had served his purpose, and there was no way they would ever allow a black man to have a permanant job in the Duke family business.

  24. 33

    ratcityreprobate spews:

    #6 & #10 Tondaleo Lipshitz. Good One. You got me all right. Watching the damn video threw me off and your remark went right over me.

  25. 34

    Salsamanca spews:

    Both parties seem to be trying to shift the economic crisis on the public, at the state and federal level. The public is expected to be polite about paying for all of this and or going without services. We’ll see how far this goes before there is more to be concerned with than rhetoric.

  26. 35

    Puddybud identifying rujax liberal scientist deathfrog and zotz as fools! spews:

    Puddy stepped back and watched the same crazed fanatics on this blog keep on marching to that same drum beat, ignoring their president and his “words of hopefulness”. Now we see this crapola

    The Conservatives in this country want war.

    No they don’t…It’s peeps on your side who advocate war. Since reading is a difficult task for liberals, Puddy will provide the YouTube event. Take notice how she said violence is condoned as long as it is part of the grand progressive plan. Whatever gets the job done eh liberals?

    Puddy loves it when useless liberals make rash generalizations. Puddy noticed Roger Dumb Rabbit taught you well.

  27. 37

    Puddybud identifying rujax liberal scientist deathfrog and zotz as fools! spews:

    Yeah, your claim was your first words you posted were about the little 9 year old girl. Not found ANYWHERE. Nope the first words were twin PuddyAttacks by Steve.

    Mrs Puddy reminded Puddy our call was that Sunday the 9th south of Tucson. Truth hurts so Ignore on!

  28. 38

    Deathfrogg spews:

    @ 35

    Okaaayy, lemme get this straight.

    All those “leftist” anti war protests I’ve been going to are all about supporting the wars? All those hippie anti war people I know are promoting war?

    Nobody, and I mean NOBODY can be that stupid Spuddy. You just made my head spin.

  29. 40

    Puddybud identifying rujax liberal scientist deathfrog and zotz as fools! spews:

    Once again the negativity of DeathFrogg is amazing… Those “anti-war” people were the same ones who wanted to Kill Bush, Nazi Bush, etc…

    Yes DeathFrogg you are really really stupid. Oh, and don’t think Puddy didn’t notice you skipped right over the YouTube video or the other link.

    Very telling DeathFrogg!

  30. 41

    Puddybud identifying rujax liberal scientist deathfrog and zotz as fools! spews:

    That’s good Steve, just like you ignored the 9 year Christina Green old girl until confronted with your hatred 24x7x365.25. It’s a Psych 101 Thing. Now when was your first HA blog post about Christina again?

  31. 43

    spews:

    The Beck-worshipper-in-chief didn’t fist pump over the invasion of Iraq?

    Even the idiot he voted for twice said Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11.

    Sorry “conservatives” wanted that war.

    Way to quote that “defender of internment” there fool.

  32. 45

    Steve spews:

    @38 “Nobody, and I mean NOBODY can be that stupid”

    I really don’t think it’s so much stupidity as it is mental illness. Perhaps equal portions of both, stewed to a toxic brew. Whatever his problem, there’s no getting through to him.

    I wouldn’t suggest to you what you should do. You strike me as someone who is hugely intelligent. But I will remind you that you’re trying to communicate with someone who has a screw loose and who has spent the last few years of his life posting tens of thousands of hate-filled comments written in the third-person.

    I’ve lost all patience with these people and I will no longer indulge them. At best, I’m wasting my time. At worst, I might provoke a psychotic into a murderous rage. I now have an ignore list. I should have had one a long time ago.

    While I’ve had some kicks here screwing with these people and their feeble minds, it really hasn’t been that much fun. I have more enjoyable and constructive things to do with my time. I can only blame myself for any time I’ve wasted.

  33. 46

    doggril spews:

    @34 – People in Washington state don’t seem to get how much shit is about to hit the fan when the legislature figures out how much more to slice out of a budget that is already down to the bone.
    Conservatives keep distracting the stupids with one statistically insignificant spending controversy after another. It’s to the point where you can’t spit without hitting a conservative who actually believes the nonsense that we can find $5 billion worth of waste in our $30-odd billion biennial budget. This even after it’s been pointed out that the political-attention-deficit-disorder suffering State Auditor, after rooting out “waste and fraud” for five years, came up with about $250 million. SOUNDS like a lot–until you figure out it was somewhere between one-tenth and two-tenths of one percent of the budget. Personally, that level of “waste” is not going to get me out into the streets to call for the revolution. But it’s enough to convince the stupids that waste is under every government rock.
    When the reality of all the shit that’s going to have to be cut from the budget finally hits, people are going to be up in arms. They’re going to just “know”–without a single fucking fact, as usual–that the politicians protected all that waste these geniuses just “know” exist and allowed little children to suffer and old people to die from lack of access to healthcare. Parks are going to close, and prisoners are going to be cut loose. Social services and education are going to be cut–deeply. And that’s just for starters.
    It ain’t going to be pretty. And one big factor that got us here is the stupidity of voters who “know” that government couldn’t possibly be underfunded–because Fox told them so.

  34. 47

    doggril spews:

    Just when I think conservatives cannot possibly be any more craven and depraved, they turn around and surprise me.
    This whole episode of “I know you are but what am I?” bullshit started by Limbaugh and repeated by every moron who agrees with him has hit a new level of low. Well, the minute they can produce a video of liberals acting as threatening and as violent toward an elected official as that video, then maybe we can talk. Until then, they can take their “liberals are just as violent as we are” bullshit and shove it.

  35. 48

    Blue John spews:

    I was in a place where I had to listen to “the best of rush” over the weekend.
    This was his take on the violent rhetoric of the right, about the second day after the shooting.

    Paraphrase: When the Left stops advocating for civil rights, for equal rights for minorities and women and gay people, when the Left stops pointing out the problems with Capitalism and things that corporations are doing wrong, when the Left stops trying to protect the environment, and when the Left stops advocating for fair trade and unions and the middle class,
    then the right will scale back it’s advocating of killing people on the left.

    Seems fair doesn’t it?

  36. 50

    spews: