I hope they can get their money back [UPDATED]

Oh my gosh…

I stumbled across this website at Craig’s List. It’s run by Rossi superfans, and I think they got a little too carried away:

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…which looks super similar to this:

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Way back when, the local GOP stirred up all sorts of fake outrage when the WA Dems put a bumper sticker on their website for 5 seconds. (The sticker, if you don’t remember, made the allusion that Christians could be hypocrites, which we all know isn’t true.)

And no, I’m not saying Dino Rossi is a Nazi (cool your heels, Don!) The Iron Cross had a long history before being corrupted by Adolf Hilter. But if I was a Republican running in a race that’ll be tough enough already, I’m not sure I’d be happy if my fans were putting my name on Nazi-ish iconography.

[UPDATED]

A Maltese cross, while very similar to an Iron cross, is not the same thing:

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[Oops, the above should read “Maltese cross” and “Cross pattée”]

Alright, I’m officially freaked out about how much I know about this stuff…

Comments

  1. 1

    palamedes spews:

    My guess would be that someone is trying to relive the “biker support” moment John Carlson had in his run for the Governor’s seat way back when – there was some article in The Stranger or the Seattle Weekly about him that included his conversation with some bikers that was written favorably.

    And the lesson here is that context matters.

  2. 2

    Particle Man spews:

    What we need is a Flintstone’s pink Dino dog with a red circle and slash across it. Oh and just to make sure people get the refrence we could add a knife fight scar on the dogs right cheek.

  3. 4

    please pay attention spews:

    Dictionary definition of Fascism:

    1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
    2. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.

    With a Republican party that advocates spying and incarcerating its own citizens at record rates and passed the Patriot Act, fascism seems to be the order of the day. Remember, it was a slippery slope of decisions that allowed fascism to flourish in the 1920’s. History often repeats itself.

  4. 5

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The word “posse” is significant. I think it means The Dinosour has the support of the posse comitatus nuts. Not sure he wants it — symbolism is important in politics as Russert’s UFO-baiting of Kucinich shows — nor is it a good sign that crowd thinks Dino should be our governor. Oh well, he can count on the felon vote, anyway.

  5. 7

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    It’s perfectly appropriate, though, that Rossi’s fan club chooses to use Nazi symbolism to cheer him on … it shows the world that Rossi’s pretend-moderation is as phony as his real estate salesman smile.

  6. 8

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I’ll bet Rossi can fix you up with a subprime mortgage broker if you’re having trouble paying your child’s doctor bills.

  7. 9

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @6 What you say is true; but it’s also true the only thing that’s missing is the little swastika in the center. And a bit of imagination — not much is required — can supply that.

  8. 10

    YLB spews:

    The batshit insane wingnuts who just luurve Rossi here and at (un)SP lean fascist for sure.

    They all dream of an authoritarian state ruled by corrupt politicians who say the kinds of things that get their juices flowing who in turn are on the payroll of greed-driven corporations that shamelessly feed on a spigot of public money. Whether it’s borrowed from China and Japan or confiscated from powerless taxpayers, they don’t care, as long as they get what they feel is coming to them.

    This is what these corporations “feel”: I pay one dollar to the politician, I get a hundred or more in return of “what’s coming to me”.

  9. 12

    spews:

    @4…PPA…

    Sort of sounds like Seattle city government, if you ask me.

    I hear Mayor Quarters rented “The Producers” in order to get the dance routines down pat.

    “Incarcerating its citizens at record rates.” Is that because they break the law or what?

    If it was as bad as all that, trust me…you would have been gulaged ages ago.

    How many Democrats voted in favor of re-authorization of the Patriot Act? In the Senate, the vote was 89 – 10 in favor. Even in pre-2006 election terms, looks as though Democrats don’t buy the soap you’re selling.

    How many American citizens have been detained on Patriot Act grounds? How many sent to Gitmo? Had their phones tapped, bank accounts scanned, or what not?

    BTW…”Slippery slope” is as cliched as it gets. Of times used to substitute for a lack of hard data or insightful analysis, the term is de rigeuer for finger-wagging pontificators who decry whatever doesn’t suit their fancy.

    But that’s OK…I’ll just leaf through your VISA records to see if there isn’t something with which to get you.

    Oooohhh! That one looks juicy!

    The Piper

  10. 16

    spews:

    @ 6, from Wikipedia:

    The Iron Cross (German: Eisernes Kreuz), sometimes erroneously called the Maltese cross, is a military decoration of the Kingdom of Prussia, and later of Germany, which was established by King Frederick William III of Prussia and first awarded on 10 March 1813 in Breslau (now Wrocław). In addition to the Napoleonic Wars, the Iron Cross was awarded during the Franco-Prussian War, the First World War, and the Second World War.

    The Maltese cross is apparently quite similar to the cross on that Luftwaffe jetliner you showed, but not the same.

  11. 18

    spyder spews:

    The constant equating of semiotics with Nazis (whether valid or not) gets annoying over time. One case in point, the Alameda Naval Air Station barracks that looked like a swastika from space requiring a $17 million retrofitting. Condemning a signifier, that has a richer and more powerful history than anything Nazi, continues to reify one cause over all others. Would it not have been more appropriate (and certainly cheaper) to suggest that that symbol has been used by Hindus and Native Americans (particularly those in the Southwest) for hundreds and thousands of years??? Naaaaaa easier to keep reminding people of the mid-20th century. We certainly can’t let people think about American Indians, they ask too many questions.

  12. 19

    drool spews:

    T, Will

    Nope. Iron cross is a MEDAL not an insignia. Big difference. We’re actually all wrong.

    It’s a cross pattée.

  13. 20

    headless lucy spews:

    The symbol that the Native Americans use is the mirror image of the Nazi Symbol. ALL native cultures that use this symbol (to the best of my knowledge), use the exact mirror image of the one the Nazis used. The real symbol stands for the four seasons (without Franki Valli).

    The Nazis KNEW that what they were doing was a travesty and a perversion of these ancient cultures. The way they chose to use the symbol at once evoked these atavistic feelings in people and mocked them at the same time.

  14. 22

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @12 I hear people bitching about the “Seattle Way” of inertia-by-committee. Then a mayor comes along who uses a relatively modest amount of heavy-handed political arm-twisting to get the wheels of city government out of the sand and I hear people bitching about the “fascist” mayor. I’m sorry, but Nickels is exactly what this city needs more of, or absolutely no decisions will be made and absolutely nothing will ever get done.

  15. 23

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @12 “How many American citizens have … [h]ad their phones tapped, bank accounts scanned, or what not?”

    We don’t know, do we, because of the secrecy of this administration. Do you trust them not to listen to your private conversations, pry into your financial affairs, or snoop into your library habits for political or prurient purposes? I don’t.

    A previous wingnut president who bore quite a bit of resemblance to the current one, Richard Nixon, secretly and illegally wiretapped critics, sicced the IRS and FBI on them, and used the power of government to harass political opponents who committed no crimes. And you rightwing bastards lapped it up and thought it was the greatest thing since Gestapo firing squads.

    Why the hell should we trust any rightwinger? Why the hell shouldn’t we be suspicious of your sneaking around behind sealed files and silent witnesses and secret meetings? People who act like they’re hiding something usually are.

    I don’t trust you rightwing fuckers any farther than I can hit a target with a .45. You can make whatever you want of the analogy; I leave it to your imagination.

  16. 24

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @14 You are obviously a person of no imagination, because it doesn’t take much imagination to see the similarities between Busheviks and Nazis.

  17. 25

    spews:

    @18…Spyder…

    Fair point and legit commentary…

    One thing to keep in mind…The swastika found in Native American design throughout the Southwest as well as other cultures throughout the world differs from that used by the Nazi’s in orientation. The Nazi swastika is right facing, while most, though not all, cultural swastikas are left facing.

    But how would you like to be a resident of Swastika, ONT.? Sucks to be them! Almost as bad as Intercourse, PA. But I’m sure many HA regulars would feel quite at home in either city.

    The Piper

  18. 26

    Blut und Eisen spews:

    ” …(I)t doesn’t take much imagination to see the similarities between Busheviks and Nazis …”

    Glad that Rab’s put the socialism back in National Socialism.

    (Excellent film: ‘Conspiracy,’ re Wannsee, with Kenneth Branagh.)

  19. 27

    Wingnutta spews:

    “A previous wingnut president who bore quite a bit of resemblance to the current one, Richard Nixon, secretly and illegally wiretapped critics, sicced the IRS and FBI on them, and used the power of government to harass political opponents who committed no crimes.”

    Excellent synopsis of the presidencies of Lyndon Johnson, Franklin Roosevelt, and Woodrow Wilson.

  20. 28

    spews:

    The Knight’s Cross of the Iron Cross was one of the highest awards for valor or achievement given in the German army during World War II.
    Future U.S. scientist/citizen Dr. Werhner von Braun was awarded his Knight’s Cross late in 1944, in a castle lit by the glow of V-2 rockets taking off toward Antwerp and London. Armaments Minister Albert Speer officiated at the ceremony.
    It would be interesting to see a political campaign take up this hierarchy of honors. Say, those raising $1,000 would get an Iron Cross — Second Class. If you collect $5,000, it’s an Iron Cross-First Class. The price of a Knight’s Cross could be $50,000.
    And it could go up from there, as was the case in the Reich. At $100,000 raised, you could have Oak Leaves attached to the Knight’s Cross. Or $250,000 fundraisers could be honored by having swords attached to their Oak Leaves.
    Such a system sounds a lot more impressive than Bush’s “Pioneers” and “Rangers.”

  21. 29

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @18 You are an idiot. (But then, you’re a winger, so that goes without saying.) Symbolism is important in politics, indeed in all public life.

    Witness, for example, the rightwing outcry over Rhandi Rhodes’ use of simulated gunshots on her Air America program when talking about Bush. A radio sound effect doesn’t hurt anybody or anything, but it upset a lot of folks — including me. I thought it was totally inappropriate, and probably 90%+ of the public would agree with me. It illustrates that symbolism IS important, and that people react to symbols viscerally.

    You are spouting utter nonsense when you try to minimize Nazi symbolism. All of the Nazi symbols were expropriated from other sources. That doesn’t change the fact those symbols are now and forever inextricably linked with Nazism and its horrors, and for uncountable generations yet to be born will evoke powerful emotional reactions of revulsion and condemnation.

    You also are utterly disingenuous in trying to pretend the use of these symbols is accidental or innocuous. There is not one sentient human being in the U.S. over the age of 8 who doesn’t know what those symbols are, or what they signify. The use of the iron cross by this group is no accident. It reflects their attitudes perfectly. It was chosen to convey what their political beliefs are.

    Here’s what I have to say to you, Spyder: Fuck you. And fuck all your fascist neo-nazi bastard pigfucker fellow travelers. May all you rightwingers rot in Hell.

  22. 30

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @19 Another fucking wingnut apologist for people who deliberately adopt Nazi symbolism to put their fascist attitudes on public parade. But then, that’s what we expect of WingNuts(TM). Fuck you, too.

  23. 31

    drool spews:

    Will, You need to redo your update!!!!!

    The right one is a cross pattée. The Iron Cross is a military medal awarded to people.

    You also have a typo on “Maltese”.

  24. 32

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @26 The Nazis weren’t socialists. They lied about that, like they lied about everything else. Robber barons, industrialists, and concentrated capital thrived under the Nazis. He didn’t expropriate private property unless you were a Jew, a Gypsy, or belonged to some other target group. There was plenty of private property and for-profit business in Nazi Germany. Hitler even supplied slaves to the corporations.

  25. 33

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Oh yeah, one more thing, Hitler hated the socialists and communists, and tried to exterminate them.

  26. 35

    spews:

    Crosses very similar to all of the above were very chic in the mid to late-60’s. They were routinely seen on apparel worn by biker gangs, then became neck ornaments of choice for surfers, and eventually worked there way down to where junior high kids bought them at Fred Meyer to wear to school thinking it made them look cool and non-conformist.

    By the time kids got to wearing them, bikers and surfers had moved on to other symbols. Anyone who gets his or her Umlaut out of Um over something like this needs warm milk and cookies from their Mommy.

    What’s next? Hoping MahaRossi wears tinted shades and a Nehru jacket? Or has his campaign theme song arranged for sitar and tabla?

    Better than his opponent: the bland leading the bland.

    The Piper

  27. 36

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @27 Bullshit.

    Yes, you can criticize those presidents. Wilson trampled on First Amendment rights and jailed anti-war critics under his sedition laws; FDR, under political pressure from reactionary elements in society, rounded up and incarcerated Japanese-Americans; LBJ lashed out at his critics (but, as far as we know, didn’t wiretap them or authorized burglaries of their homes and offices or sic IRS auditors on them).

    Yes, we’ve had some Democrat presidents who weren’t angels. But then, back in Wilson’s and FDR’s time, all the KKK racists and lynchers were Democrats. Things have changed; those people are Republicans now. The GOP is the war party now. And they want to do all the things Wilson and FDR did: Suppress free speech, make it illegal to criticize warmongering, throw people in concentration camps.

    We’ve learned a few things from history, and one of the things we’ve learned is that

    LIBERALS MUST ARM!

    because when the only thing protecting your rights is pieces of paper called “constitutions” and “laws,” you have no rights because some people don’t understand written words but they sure as hell understand the business end of a gun.

    And so, because of Wilson, Nixon, Bush43, and all you wingnut haters/warmongers/torturers/neonazis out there, I own guns and I’m a firm supporter of your Second Amendment rights. You savages have made a believer out of me where the 2nd Amendment is concerned.

  28. 39

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @35 “They were routinely seen on apparel worn by biker gangs”

    Well guess what, Piper, they wore them on their ex-Wehrmacht helmets. They also wore swastikas. Maybe they were trying to create a tough-guy image by making people mentally associate them with Nazis — ya think?

  29. 40

    spews:

    @33…RR…

    And the Communists, stupid morons they were, thought that letting Hitler do his thing would result in a backlash in their favor. “Nach Hitler, uns!” More like “Arbeit macht frei.”

    But there’s an old saying: The best Communist is an ex-Nazi. Sort-of, seen one totalitarian, you seen ‘em all.

    Speaking of socialism…seen how all the Demo Prexy posers are regarding Charlie Rangel’s new tax plan as so much doggie don’t don’t? They know that portraying themselves as socialists is the kiss of death.

    Remember…one of the most Republican proposals in recent memory, welfare reform, was promoted and signed by a Democratic President. Wonder if HRC will follow WJC’s lead in adopting a whole slew of Republican programs and proposals? Why not? She’ll do anything to win and hold power.

    About you and a firearm? Not without opposable thumbs and, certainly in this case, fingers. You are simply incapable of operating the mechanism!

    The Piper

  30. 42

    Sam Adams spews:

    @ 5

    “……….Oh well, he can count on the felon vote, anyway.”

    Am I the only one to see the irony in this?

  31. 45

    drool spews:

    35, Piper

    They are still quite popular. You see them on choppers and retro stuff. West Coast Choppers uses it.

  32. 46

    spews:

    @38…RR…

    Man, you are one grumpy bunny today! Wassup? Mrs. R cut you off???

    A lot of bikers continue to wear what is commonly called a coal shuttle helmet, which, by itself, has no politically symbolic significance since it was pretty much the same helmet the Germans used in WW I.

    Actually, if you want to compare designs, the current battle helmet used by U.S. military personnel more closely resembles the coal shuttle than it does it’s WW II, Korea, and Vietnam steel pot predecessor.

    Listen…as long as lefty loons continue to sport Che t-shirts, you haven’t got a leg to stand on when it comes to helmets and crosses.

    As to your attitude? I hear Venus Velasquez has room in her car for the trip to and from tonight’s anger managment class. That is, however, just as long as you’re willing to sit next to Richard McIver.

    The Piper

  33. 47

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @39 “But there’s an old saying: The best Communist is an ex-Nazi. Sort-of, seen one totalitarian, you seen ‘em all.”

    Yeah well guess what, a lot of America’s neoconservatives are ex-communists, recent expatriates from the Trotsky branch of Soviet ideology via Leo Strauss. Not very comforting to know Chimpface’s foreign policy is guided by ex-commies-turned-fascists, is it?

    And you shill for these pathetic sacks of shit …

  34. 48

    spews:

    @44…Drool…

    I suspect that’s what sparked the idea among the Rossi Posse. Imitation being…

    But to some it’s any port in a storm.

    Hey Rabbit! I hear Nazi’s wore shoes…So do Republicans. Wanna make something of that?

    The Piper

  35. 49

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @39 “About you and a firearm? Not without opposable thumbs and, certainly in this case, fingers. You are simply incapable of operating the mechanism!”

    Want to find out?*

    * This is, of course, a rhetorical question and one hopes you have enough sense not to try a real-life test.

  36. 50

    spews:

    @46…RR…

    Man, you are OTR today! Not only must she have cut you off, but without opposable thumbs you can’t…well, as an old lawyer you must understand the doctrine of “self help.”

    Interesting how many ex-commies saw the light and became…conservatives and Republicans. Whittaker Chambers, David Horowitz, just to name a couple.

    Of course an ex-commie would never become a Democrat since that would be out of the frying pan and into the frying pan.

    Does it still bother you to realize that, yes…Alger Hiss was guilty?

    The Piper

  37. 51

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @39 (continued) In you’re wondering how it’s done …

    “Puppy shoots Florida man, deputies say

    “PENSACOLA, Fla. – A man who tried to shoot seven puppies was shot … when one of the dogs put its paw on the … trigger.

    “Jerry Allen Bradford, 37, … said he decided to shoot the 3-month-old shepherd-mix dogs … because he couldn’t find them a home, according to the sheriff’s office. … Bradford was holding two puppies … when the dog … put its paw on the trigger of the .38-caliber revolver …, the sheriff’s report said.”

    Quoted under fair use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5950304/

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: If a stupid dog can do it, so can a rabbit! I’m 100 times smarter than any damn dog … especially Jane Balogh’s moronic mutt.

  38. 52

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @49 “Interesting how many ex-commies saw the light and became…conservatives and Republicans. Whittaker Chambers, David Horowitz, just to name a couple.”

    Yeah, those guys are real poster children for the Republican cause, aren’t they?

    Neocons are simply people who figured out that fascism pays better than communism, because when you work for fascists the checks are written by deep-pocketed billionaires and corporations.

    In the process of transforming themselves from commies into fascists, they never lost their totalitarian impulses, their love of concentration camps, and their hatred of free speech and democratic government.

  39. 53

    spews:

    @50…RR…

    Big hairy deal! As the saying goes, even a blind pig finds an acorn once in awhile. Show me a story about a rabbit shooting the ‘nads off a gnat at 100 yards, and then I’ll become incontinent. In the meantime…

    How about sgian dubh’s over a targe at two paces? Aye, a manly sport if ever there was one! Up for it, laddie?

    The Piper

  40. 54

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @49 “Does it still bother you to realize that, yes…Alger Hiss was guilty?”

    Hiss’s purported guilt remains a WingNut(TM) article of faith. Yes, it’s true he was convicted in a U.S. court (of perjury, not espionage) and SCOTUS denied his petition for coram nobis, but Hiss’s ACTUAL guilt remains controversial and unestablished. In addition, there is evidence of prosecutorial misconduct, and NO evidence in Soviet archives that Hiss ever spied for the Soviet Union or was a member of the Communist Party. The Russians say he didn’t work for them.

    As a lawyer, I’m a process person, and think it’s important to give guilty bastards a fair trial before hanging them.

    As an ex-lawyer (because you’re too cheap to pay your $400 annual bar dues after spending $100,000 to get your license to practice law and/or too lazy to attend 15 hours of legal education a yeaer), you should understand my hangup over due process, even if you don’t sympathize with it.

    You also undoubtedly know that courts don’t automatically set aside convictions because of trial defects. The law guarantees no one a perfect trial, and it probably doesn’t guarantee everyone a fair trial either, notwithstanding the copious lip service paid to the concept. As Mr. Magoo famously pointed out, “The law, sir, is an ass.”

    Which is probably your best excuse for not being a lawyer anymore, although it’s not the excuse you chose to use.

    I don’t know if Hiss committed perjury, although I imagine it’s possible he did. Human nature being what it is, people have a tendency to lie about things like who they were with at 3 a.m. last Saturday or whether they were friend with certain individuals who have come under FBI suspicion for death-penalty offenses. Perjury isn’t the same thing as spying. Bill Clinton committed perjury, although he wasn’t convicted of it, but that didn’t make him a spy for the Soviet Union; it only proves he was a philandering husband trying to evade his wife’s wrath.

    The Hiss case is extremely complex, and batting out Hiss’s name in this thread scores you no points. Even the rightwing witchhunters of the Red Scare era operating in kangaroo courts couldn’t hang an espionage rap on him. Subsequent courts’ refusal to vacate his conviction may or may not have been right. The Massachusetts Bar Association saw fit to readmit him to practice of law in that state after spending much time and effort weighing the issue of his character.

    So, say what you will about Hiss, it is all speculation on your part, and carries the possibility that you are condemning an innocent man. That seems not to concern you much. To each his own. Such possibilities trouble me; and if they don’t trouble you, then our Washington bar is better off without out.

  41. 55

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Now you know why I’m a lawyer and Piper isn’t, even though we both graduated from law school and passed the bar exam.

  42. 56

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Last sentence of #53 should read,

    Such possibilities trouble me; and if they don’t trouble you, then our Washington bar is better off without you.

  43. 59

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    We have to do a lot of fact-checking and correcting on this blog because our WingNut(tm) guests lie so much.

  44. 60

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @47 “Hey Rabbit! I hear Nazi’s wore shoes…So do Republicans. Wanna make something of that?”

    Well, you retros and nostalgia buffs can take comfort from the fact many Confederates fought barefoot. That should exonerate them from any Nazi or Republican associations.

  45. 63

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    But then, WingNuts (TM), who regularly get their asses kicked whenever they go a-warmongering, aren’t very good at figuring out the tactical end of things.

  46. 64

    Truth-Challenged Rabbit spews:

    As a lawyer, you’re a process person. Also a liar: “NO evidence in Soviet archives that Hiss ever spied for the Soviet Union or was a member of the Communist Party. The Russians say he didn’t work for them.”

    There was no evidence in KGB archives, ergo the Volkogonov/NYT/Navasky disinformation campaign. There was a pile of evidence in GRU files that agent AILES was Hiss. Could have been nobody else.

    This is not esoteric or occult information, available only to Keepers Of Odd Knowledge. It’s been available to a kook like you for more than a decade, since the Yale project of Heynes and Klehr put it together. It’s as close to a slam dumk as we get in this life.

    Chambers was a great man. You’re a liar, and inedible. Thanks for all the stew, but next time more thyme, less parsely, sage, and rosemary.

  47. 65

    spews:

    @53…RR…

    A significant majority of scholars on the issue believe Hiss was guilty. Additionally, since the statute of limitations had expired on the underlying espionage accusations, his criminal guilt was perjury.

    Allen Weinstein’s “Perjury” is considered by many to be a definitive study of the case. As I recall, Weinstein started his research believing in Hiss’ innocence only to change his mind when confronted by the weight of the evidence, certainly a process that has never gotten in the way of HA regulars blind faith in any number of flat-earth theories.

    Do rabbits do marriage counseling? Would it benefit you and the Mrs. to sit down with some one in order to work out your issues? Or are they rooted in your latent dislike of your mother who we all know you shoved under that SUV…Rumor has it there’s film on the Internet.

    The Piper

  48. 66

    Ditto spews:

    Same pattern with Radosh and the Rosenbergs. Radosh, like Weinstein, wanted badly to be an apologist for the left’s smelly orthodoxies, but had to back down when the inconvenient truth couldn’t be spun.

    Weinstein’s work came long before the brief thaw (about 1992) that permitted Western access to Soviet files. The Jayson Blair Times ran with the first hint of Hiss’s exoneration, a hint pushed by Tony Hiss of the New Yorker, but never caught up with the rest of the story, that Alger worked for GRU, not KGB.

  49. 67

    Rabbit Stew spews:

    I used garden loppers to lop off Lop Ear’s loppy ears, and one foot for, you know, luck. Hope you don’t mind.

  50. 69

    headless lucy spews:

    #67 — Correction. He became a Republican (close enough)

    Whe will we be forced to bring up the fact that Prescott Bush traded with the Nazis during WW II. Speaking of pigs and acorns, Piper, it seems ‘W’ didn’t fall far from the tree.

  51. 70

    spews:

    @68…Pinenuts…

    And old Joe Kennedy was Adolph’s boy-toy, so what else is new? Shall we root in your family tree, or was it clear cut and chipped up with you attached?

    The Piper

  52. 71

    4 of 5 Doctors Agree spews:

    Two or three of us are concerned about Roger’s fragile mental health. It’s been suggested that he and Mrs. R get away for a rest cure, or get counseling, or get checked in to rehab.

    Surely it’s obvious from Roger’s obsessive and compulsive posting and excreting that the problem is this: There is no Mrs. R. Couldn’t be. That’s why he lives here, excretes here, and … well … let’s just say that HA, for RR, is sublimated sex. A very scary thought. Happy ‘Ween.

  53. 72

    All the Way With LBJ spews:

    Why, with all this stuff about Iron Crosses and four twisted sevens, do I hear the lilting strains of Wagner via Elmer Fudd? Something about The Wabbit?

    And I blew it. I thought RR finally had a clue when he equated Bolsheviks with Nazis, a mature and correct equivalence. Then I looked more closely: Busheviks. Figures.

    As for his rabbit crap about Wilson, FDR, and LBJ … too much for today. Aside from the almost slam-dunk certainly that Lyndon tapped Goldwater’s campaign plane, and that LBJ’s AG tapped Martin Luther King.

  54. 73

    Mrs. Rabbit spews:

    Piper Scott: You are so right on target. Roger dislikes women and has issues galore. That is why he spends so much time on HA, he can’t deal with the real world.

  55. 75

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Roger Rabbit Quiz

    Okay WingNuts(TM) this is an IQ test. Since there’s only 1 question it’s all-or-nothing. You get only one shot at it so think before you leap.

    The iron cross in the picture most closely resembles a

    [ ] A. iron cross
    [ ] B. Maltese cross

    Scoring: If you answered correctly your IQ is 100, and if you didn’t your IQ is zero. Now let’s see a show of hands — how many of you WingNuts(TM) chose Answer B? … Yep, I thought so.

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    Nurse Jane Fuzzy Wuzzy spews:

    Twice I’ve called out Rabbit as a lying liar. It’s a high bar that must be jumped (establishing foreknowledge and intent, discounting stupidity), but Rabbit is our resident know-it-all. If he’s egregiously wrong, and he’s not perceptibly pumping irony, then he’s lying, lying by definition, since we know that he knows that he’s not stupid.

    He lied about the ‘unprecedented’ warming we’ve recently experienced. In fact we have a plethora of precedents (unless Rabbit the defrocked lawyer is defining precedent like defrocked lawyer Bill Clinton defines ‘is’). Elizabeth Kolbert laid them out in “Ice Memory” via the New Yorker.

    He lied about Hiss. Almost nobody except the nobodies at The Nation even tries to lie about Hiss any more.

    And now he lies about race, excreting the canard that the KKK goes GOP. So tell us, Roger, who is the most famous living Klan man? Aside from the nut bucket, repudiated by Republicans, in Louisiana, which has elected a Republican governor of rich dark hue?

    Most famous Kluxer? Kleagle? Cyclops? Why, that would be, um, not a Republican, but a progressive paragon. That would be Robert Byrd, Democrat, West Virginia.

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    Nurse Jane Fuzzy Wuzzy spews:

    And I had a KKK Kwiz for you, Roger, but your HA poodles just ate it. Like you, they can’t handle the truth.