HA Bible Study

Luke 19:23-27
Why didn’t you put my money in the bank? On my return, I could have had the money together with interest.”

Then he said to some other servants standing there, “Take the money away from him and give it to the servant who earned ten times as much.”

But they said, “Sir, he already has ten times as much!”

The king replied, “Those who have something will be given more. But everything will be taken away from those who don’t have anything. Now bring me the enemies who didn’t want me to be their king. Kill them while I watch!”

Discuss.

Comments

  1. 1

    Gman spews:

    Kind of like Republicans claiming that we are moving more towards non conventional lifestyles when it comes to sexuality and that it has to be stopped. This claim could be put on parallel course with Ron Paul’s sarcastic claim that if you legalize heroine that everyone will start to use heroine(i.e if the government doesn’t regulate the use of heroine we will all start crying out “Give me some of that Heroine”). Greed and Fear, they go hand in hand when it comes to Republicans.

  2. 2

    Zotz sez: High tonite. Low tomorrow. Precipitation is expected. spews:

    Are you switching sides Gman? (check your spelling — you appear to be advocating sex with female heroes)

  3. 3

    God spews:

    The meaning is clear …

    Just as the Christian religion recognizes the divine right of emperors, it also recognizes the divine rights of investment bankers.

    I am that I am.

  4. 4

    Gman spews:

    @2 although I wouldn’t think to I bet I could easily switch sides. I wouldn’t doubt if many others here could switch sides, even Puffy. All be it it might take a little water boarding but I think eventually Puffy would turn.

  5. 6

    SJ spews:

    Puddy ..

    Seems to me as if Goldy, the Prophet, has won .. you no longer even try to respond to his quotes.

    Maybe you need to fess up?

  6. 7

    SJ spews:

    While we are at it, I was wondering which of these Republican candidates do you favor ..

    Mitt Romney … the Morman of no convictions.
    New Gingrich .. with his nouveau opus Deism?
    Herman Cain … since I know and like the real you, I wonder if Mr. Cain … like you … enjoys role playing?
    Michelle Bachmann … well, at least she seems to share your commitment to non ecumenical charity.
    Rick Santorum gotta give it to Rick, he is consistent … seems like that is not getting him anywhere.
    Huntsman I kinda sorta expect Mr. Huntsman to admit that he is too moderate to be an R. Seems to me that he ought to accept Obama’s offer and run for VEEP as a Democrat.

  7. 10

    Puddybud spews:

    SJ,

    Why should I comment on Goldy’s posts anymore? Most are taken out of context and the HA atheists here have no religious basis except Google!

  8. 12

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    This Biblical story must have happened back in the days when banks still paid interest on savings. Nowadays, ten times nothing is still nothing.

  9. 13

    Puddybud spews:

    Good question SJ

    Mitt Romney … Personally the man has flipped more than John Effin Kerry. Sorry for the man but he has taken some positions in his career that he’s had to retract!

    New Gingrich … He’s a pretty smart person. He would ABSOLUTELY destroy ObamAA+ in a debate. Baggage? While the DUMMOCRAPTS tried to excoriate him on his ex wife with a cancer lie from Mother Jones.
    Butt with libtardos in Mother Jones, who cares about the truth. That’s why rujax and others run to that worthless rag. It was a benign tumor. Mrs Gingrich is still alive today.

    Next the ethics charges were all dropped? Don’t believe me? Check it out! Even the IRS cleared him of the charges. Butt the standard DUMMOCRAPT kook-aid places will continue to lie and lie and lie. Newt was not found guilty of lying to any ethics panel but that lie lives on too; and… Republicans asked Gingrich to step down as speaker. He was not forced out no matter the lies told on leftist baloney sites.

    Why do you think the libtards are going after Gingrich so hard? Because they know the truth and when the rest of the peeps know the truth they will be educated.

    Herman Cain … People who really know Herman say he’s real. I like the man. These trumped up sex charges are just that. Of course the standard DUMMOCRAPTIC mouth pieces from Chicago and Gloria Allred was Jilly right there on time. I asked Cain to take the lie detector test. I wanted those charges proven false to have DUMMOCRAPTS eat them. So here we are in 2011, some 14 years later with no police reports and no evidence. We are left with some unsolved allegation/mystery with absolutely no way to resolve it. Butt because she’s a blonde white woman and Cain is a dark skinned flat nosed black man, the libtard MSM starts with the standard stereotypes. We then learned the same Bialek did something similar in the US Government in 2002. Contrary to Bialek’s claim that she informed her “boyfriend” after the incident, an ABC interview with the “boyfriend” revealed the man only became aware of the story approximately 2 weeks before. But Cain hasn’t proven himself a student of foreign policy. At least he hasn’t been an apologist in chief like ObamAA+.

    Michelle Bachmann … She has made some statements which torpedoed her candidacy. Unlike ObamAA+, Bachmann’s comments were attacked by the libtardo MSM. ObamAA+ got a pass.

    Rick Santorum … He’s too conservative for most Americans. He has some great ideas but they are not heard over the libtardo MSM din over his conservative roots.

    Jon Huntsman … ylb likes him so you know what that means…

  10. 14

    SJ spews:

    errrr ahhh!!!!!!!

    Rather than argue, let me just see if I can interpret what you are saying ….

    I read this as you are a Newt-onian, at least for now.

    1. How come Perry gets left out? He is the only one in the game who has actually governed a state for any length of time. His personal life and beliefs seem close to your own.

    2. I am surprised that you are so tolerant of Newt’s … shall we say “odd” life style. Is that OK by you?

    3. so you buy all this liberal stuff about Romney being a flip flopper???? or do you think Romney is just a practical, amoral politician? What do you think about his earlier Wall Street career? Isn’t Mitt the exemplar of why Wall Street misspent everyone else’s money while enriching itself? Is New the subject of today’s Goldy lesson?

    Would you vote for someone who believes he is a God?

    4. Cain .. why do you focus on his race problem? OK .. I think it is real, as is Obama’s, but can you tell us exactly what Cain believes in that would be good for government? You like 999?

    Oh and can you tell me what Mr. Cain would do about Iran that YOU would support?

    5. OK Santorum is too “conservative?” Really? On what issue does he and Newt disagree?

  11. 15

    proud leftist spews:

    Puddy,
    Goldy’s chosen verse today is a difficult one for an honest Christian. Don’t dodge it in cowardly fashion. Explain.

  12. 16

    Blue John spews:

    since our christian conservatives won’t take a stab at it, i found this and it had some fun interpretations

    Those that are called to Christ, he furnishes with gifts needful for their business; and from those to whom he gives power, he expects service. Those that will not have Christ to reign over them shall be reputed and dealt with as his enemies. The Saviour whom they have slighted will stand by and see them slain, and not intercede on their behalf.

    He was teaching the Torah, in that we are to LENDERS and not BORROWERS. Torah teaches that we can lend to the GOYIM(nations, unbelievers)at INTEREST, thus multiplying the money. The unfaithful servant, however, did nothing with it, and simply returned it to Him, which is also Torah, in that we are to give to our BROTHERS without interest. This also draws out the idea of worshipping Yah or mammon. The two wise servants were willing to GIVE, whereas the unfaithful one was not.

    In my opinion this is parable of the ten talents.

    A talent is any of various large units of weight or of money (the value of a talent weight in gold, silver, etc.) used in ancient Greece, Rome, the Middle East, etc. Also, it is any natural ability or power; natural endowment, this includes a superior, apparently natural ability in the arts or sciences or in the learning or doing of anything.

    The Lord has blessed everyone with certain talents (be it money, intelligence, faith, loving heart, artist, writer, etc.), and if they are used to generate more talents, then they have learned many lessons and are given more because they will do the right things to increase this.

    A servant (person) that does not use the talents given, were wasted, therefore this servant would not even try and that the servant had no faith
    * in banks for interest
    * in self for buying what is needed to create things to sell and bring in more talents
    * in himself, so he was too lazy to be concerned about making use of the talent, no matter what it was.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/quest.....444AA48gbK

    Could a short summary be,
    god will destroy you if you don’t take your talents and your luck and your wealth and privilege and grow them? Is this the Koch brothers favorite passage?

    Or you could interpret this as god wants his faithful to use what god gives him and the lazy and the timid will be destroyed.

    If you look at the bible as an instruction manual for an early society, this would be used to encourage the community to capitalize on it’s talents, to out do it’s rivals or god would smite them. Carrot and stick.

  13. 17

    Puddybud spews:

    Goldy’s chosen verse today is a difficult one for an honest Christian.

    So proud leftist dodges it which says what about him being an honest Christian?

    That was

    Toooooooooooooooo

    Damnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

    Fuuuuuunnnnnnnnny

  14. 18

    Puddybud spews:

    You see proud leftist, when you put the whole parable into context this is very easy to understand. When Goldy yanks five verses out of context for his Biblically ignorant audience, you see the comments above!

    Luke 19:12 He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.
    Luke 19:13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.
    Luke 19:14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.
    Luke 19:15 And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.
    Luke 19:16 Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds.
    Luke 19:17 And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.
    Luke 19:18 And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.
    Luke 19:19 And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities.
    Luke 19:20 And another came, saying, Lord, behold, here is thy pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin:
    Luke 19:21 For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow.
    Luke 19:22 And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow:
    Luke 19:23 Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?
    Luke 19:24 And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the pound, and give it to him that hath ten pounds.
    Luke 19:25 (And they said unto him, Lord, he hath ten pounds.)
    Luke 19:26 For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.
    Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

    So it’s now clear proud leftist. And you were saying…?

  15. 19

    Blue John spews:

    How is repeating the passage but using more obtuse language, in ANY way offering ANY sort of analysis or interpretation of the passage?
    Typical conservative. Won’t answer the question.

  16. 20

    proud leftist spews:

    Puddy,
    As usual, not an ounce of analysis. What does that passage mean to you, Puddy?

  17. 21

    Blue John spews:

    You might as well have posted this and claimed you were clear

    LUK3 1926 FOR I SAY UN2 U TAHT UN2 AV3RY ON3 WHICH HATH SHAL B GIEVN AND FROM HIM TAHT HATH NOT 3VAN TAHT HE HATH SHAL B TAEKN AWAY FROM HIM
    LUKE!!!1!!!! OMG WTF LOL 1927 BUT THOSE MIEN EN3MEIS WHICH WUD NOT TAHT I SHUD R3IGN OVER THAM BRNG HITHAR AND SLAY THEM BFORE M3!1!1! WTF LOL

    Looke-a 19:22 Und he-a seeet untu heem, Oooot ooff theene-a oovn muoot veell I joodge-a zeee-a, thuoo veecked serfunt. Thuoo knooest thet I ves un oostere-a mun, tekeeng up thet I leeed nut doon, und reepeeng thet I deed nut soo:
    Looke-a 19:23 Vhereffure-a zeen gefest nut thuoo my muney intu zee bunk, thet et my cumeeng I meeght hefe-a reqooured meene-a oovn veet usoory?
    Looke-a 19:24 Und he-a seeed untu zeem thet stuud by, Teke-a frum heem zee puoond, und geefe-a it tu heem thet het tee puoonds.
    Looke-a 19:25 (Und zeey seeed untu heem, Lurd, he-a het tee puoonds.)
    Looke-a 19:26 Fur I sey untu yuoo, Thet untu ifery oone-a vheech het shell be-a geefee; und frum heem thet het nut, ifee thet he-a het shell be-a tekee evey frum heem.
    Bork Bork Bork!

    So now that it’s clear puddy, And you were saying?

  18. 24

    SJ spews:

    Puddy,

    OK .. so this is a lesson by Luke to tell entrepreneurs how to invest so they can get plum political jobs?

    Is this supposed to be the words of Jesus or Newt Gingrich telling folks how to lobby w/o getting caught?

  19. 25

    Puddybud spews:

    Man Stupid Solution Steve and blue john are both Biblical idiots. The passage stands on it’s own. This proves neither can read. I emboldened the relevant words of the whole parable and these two Bible morons can’t get it.

    SJ, it has nothing to do with being an entrepreneur or lobbyist. It has everything to do with someone rejecting God and in the end He will slay those who reject Him and His Son, his enemies. The people wanted to continue to live in sin and unrighteousness. The new nobleman wanted them to live correctly. The good servants were made leaders because they used their God given talents. The lazy servant who held the pound in a napkin is the man who doesn’t use his God given skills but sits on his skills. In the end all will meet God’s judgment; some to everlasting life and others to damnation.

  20. 26

    Puddybud spews:

    How is repeating the passage but using more obtuse language,

    Oh my how blue john is very stupid. I use King James when I post Bible comments. Always have, always will. Now I understand how really stupid you are! You can easily click on Goldy’s link and read the whole passage. Butt that would cause you to work and we know DUMMOCRAPTS want others to perform their due diligence for them.

  21. 27

    Puddybud spews:

    Did you notice proud leftist, the preacheran’s son could NOT deliver a commentary on the passage. We all know why. His own words identified who he is…

    Goldy’s chosen verse today is a difficult one for an honest Christian. Don’t dodge it in cowardly fashion.

    As all can see he isn’t a “honest Christian” and dodged it as a coward!

    Thanks again proud leftist for playing. We see you in your own mirror!

  22. 28

    Puddybud spews:

    I read this as you are a Newt-onian, at least for now.

    Newt has the best ideas for now but some of the others have some great “point” ideas.

    1. How come Perry gets left out? He is the only one in the game who has actually governed a state for any length of time. His personal life and beliefs seem close to your own.

    I never really like the man.

    2. I am surprised that you are so tolerant of Newt’s … shall we say “odd” life style. Is that OK by you?

    Newt’s “odd” lifestyle is not mine to judge. At least he hasn’t lied about it like someone you hold dearly.

    3. so you buy all this liberal stuff about Romney being a flip flopper???? or do you think Romney is just a practical, amoral politician? What do you think about his earlier Wall Street career? Isn’t Mitt the exemplar of why Wall Street misspent everyone else’s money while enriching itself? Is New the subject of today’s Goldy lesson?

    How has Mitt misspent Wall Street money. Detail your charges SJ. Enumerate them in a Roger DOPEY Rabbit list. I read National Review. They detailed Romney’s previous positions on many items and the ones he holds now. Like how Al Gore was against abortion until the DNC got hold of him and told him he better flip.

    Would you vote for someone who believes he is a God?

    Nope! So why do you play God on HA?

    4. Cain .. why do you focus on his race problem?

    Because the libtard MSM has. He’s a real black man who used his own mental acumen to improve himself. It proves as a black man you don’t need the DUMMOCRAPTIC Party to improve your lot in life. Butt don’t tell that to rujax. He loves the reservation!

    OK .. I think it is real, as is Obama’s, but can you tell us exactly what Cain believes in that would be good for government?

    What? ObamAA+ threw his grandmother under the bus for her “racism”. It was ObamAA+’s own words about his grandmother no matter what rujax thinks. He didn’t live the black man’s life. He’s a black man but didn’t live the life like Herman Cain. Read his book. Some similarities to Nelson Mandela in his book.

    You like 999? Parts are fine, parts need improvement. Better than what we have today under ObamAA+.

    Oh and can you tell me what Mr. Cain would do about Iran that YOU would support?

    As we can see Russia and China respond to ObamAA+’s Apology Tour in 2009. Now we have Putin thumbing his nose at ObamAA+. At least Cain would stand up to both of them. Also Cain would open up oil exploration to put people to work and remove our dependence on the Middle East like Newt would. Just opening up to explore would send the right signal not clamp down like ObamAA+ has. On Iran a strong US leader leads and Russia and China would understand radicalism hurts their countries too. This is lost on ObamAA+

    5. OK Santorum is too “conservative?”

    For most Americans. Latest poll has more conservatives than liberals. Research it SJ.

    Really? On what issue does he and Newt disagree?

    On the illegal aliens who have been here for a very long time. They would NOT become citizens but could live here. That is Compassionate Conservatism. I agree with Newt’s point. They WILL NOT become citizens unless they go back and apply legally. This is what libtards can’t comprehend. Go to any other country in the world and see how they deal with illegal aliens.

  23. 29

    SJ spews:

    Puddy ..

    1. Newt OK .. so you are a Newt onian,

    2. Perry .. you do not support Perry, eve if his policies are like yours .. because you do not like him.

    3. Still not sure what YOU do not like about Mitt. As for his history, as the head of a leverage firm, he used exactly the practices we know see as bankrupting the country to enrich himself. Given Mitt’s facile flip flop policy, I am sure he will now condemn himself?

    However, it appears that you will not vote for Romney because, as a Mormon, he believes he is a God?

    4. As for Cain, seem as if you have a good case of ethnic pride! Nothing wrong with that! Hell part of my support of Obama comes from my seeing myself as very similar to him.

    As for policies, seems as if you have not given that issue much thought.

    Oh and can you tell me what Mr. Cain would do about Iran that YOU would support? I hope and assume you do know that drill baby drill .. whether under Palin, Perry or Cain is nhot a financially viable chopice unless the USG subsidizes more domestic oil. Are you ready to pay a tax NOT to use cheaper imported oil?

    5. As for Santorum, seems to me you are contradicting yourself. You say “most Americans” are conservative and then say Sant can not win because he is too conservative.

    As for “illegal aliens who have been here for a very long time” what is Santorum’s stand? Do you think he really wants to expel 12 million illegals? Try this .. suppose it costs us $5000 to expel each one. That is $60 billion. Is that what you think RS supports?

    Seems again as if you prefer Santorum’s ideas but are wafting to Newt because you do not care abut his immoral history and think the he is electable?

  24. 30

    spews:

    The sort of banking described in this biblical passage surely predates banks investing their clients’ money in mortgage backed securities that they know are junk and then purchasing insurance betting that the junk securities will fail (which the banks, having constructed the crappy securities) already know.

    In a case like this, the guy who buried the talent would be the only one who had any talent (pun intended) left and would therefore be the beneficiary of ‘the Lord’s’ largesse — leaving the idiots who trusted the bankers to ‘increase tenfold’ left without even that which they invested.

    This is a better little moralistic tale than the Bible’s. Hang on to your wallet.

  25. 31

    Blue John spews:

    The King James Bible. If it was good enough for Jesus, it is good enough for puddy.

    (….think about it. Don’t worry puddy. you will get it eventually.)

  26. 33

    Steve spews:

    Get a load of what that dingbat of a false prophet Ellen White had to say about reading novels.

    “That mind is ruined which is allowed to be absorbed in story-reading. The imagination becomes diseased, sentimentalism takes possession of the mind, and there is a vague unrest, a strange appetite for unwholesome mental food, which is constantly unbalancing the mind. Thousands are today in the insane asylum whose minds became unbalanced by novel reading, which results in air-castle building and love-sick sentimentalism.”

    That’s the self-loathing loon’s prophet. heh. No wonder the loon is so fucking stupid.

  27. 36

    headless lucy spews:

    re 34: “I tell you,” he replied, “if they keep quiet, the Stones will cry out.”

    I’m a huge Stones fan. Listen to ‘em every chance I get. Yeah………. Fred and Barney.

    Conceptual kudos to Stephen Wright.

  28. 37

    Puddybud spews:

    The King James Bible. If it was good enough for Jesus, it is good enough for puddy.

    Whatamoron. Where did I ever say that?

    blue john = idiot!

  29. 38

    Puddybud spews:

    Oh my looks like @34 just smacked @33 with a large sledgehammer. Stupid Solution Steve, as stupid as ever!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  30. 40

    Steve spews:

    @39 He’s too fucking stupid to get anything.

    “Oh my looks like @34 just smacked @33 with a large sledgehammer.”

    Look at how stupid the loon is. The post @34, nothing but scripture, has absolutely nothing to do with my post @33. The loon and his false prophet had their asses handed to them so he resorts to making shit up in order to save face. But there’s nothing to save. Everybody here knows that he’s a habitual liar and a hater of all things good and decent.

  31. 41

    Puddybud spews:

    Ummm.. Stupid Solution Steve,

    If Mrs White makes it to Heaven and Stupid Solution Steve doesn’t what will that say about you Stupid Solution Steve?

    God and Jesus are not Good and Decent?

    Whatamoron! KABLAMMOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

  32. 42

    Puddybud spews:

    he post @34, nothing but scripture, has absolutely nothing to do with my post @33.

    Ummm… yeah right. You leftist claim the Bible is a “novel”. One called it a Harry Potter type novel. ylb will search to verify. Pavlov calls it. Post 34 breaks it down in plain English!

    Nuff Said sucka.

  33. 43

    Steve spews:

    Wasn’t the loon’s nickname around here once “Stupes” or something like that? Fitting, if it was, as the loon is just about the dumbest motherfucker I’ve ever encountered in my life. Even for a self-loathing loon who posts nothing but evidence of his gross stupidity, those last two comments were really fucking stupid.

    “God and Jesus are not Good and Decent?”

    Enough about the stupid. There’s also the hate. It’s too bad the self-loathing loon hates all things good and decent. It puts the lie to his self-professed Christian values. Of course, it’s common knowledge that Seventh Day Adventists aren’t Christians. They’re just stupid fucking cultists who twist Jesus’ message of brotherly love and hope into a message of hatred and doom. Hell, the loon’s every comment here is proof of his hatred for all things good and decent. How dare he invoke the name of Jesus in his disgusting comments! For that, the self-loathing loon deserves to burn in the fires of hell for all eternity.