1 Timothy 5:23
Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses.
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Obviously written back when people were drinking from the same water that their animals were, and had no qualms about dumping their sewage in.
If the Conservatives in this country had their way, every river and lake in the United States would look just like this.
Unfermented grape juice is sometimes called wine in the Christian Bible. Puddy suggests this book to OWS Racist Fraggy… lover of young female humans chained in basements You can easily read about Columella here or you can read
Puddy will let you search for one too!
Enjoy it Fraggy when you are in your basement!
Romans mixed water with their wine. They looked down on barbarians who drank the wine straight.
But they were not above trading with the barbarians who wanted Roman wine.
I remember this from the King James Version “a little wine for thy stomach’s sake”. The language is archaic but resonant.
@2 Spudnutz, you don’t have to be crazy every day of the week. Have you considered taking Sundays off?
@3 Didn’t do them any good. They’re all dead anyway.
Sounds like solid enough advise.
Facts scare SENILE and DUMB Wabbits!
I was told it was good practice for killing the bugs that might be in the water back before we had government that maintained water purity standards for cheap or corporations that provide pure water for a hefty profit.
@7 Looks like his answer to #4 is “no.”
@2
in ancient times before any knowledge of fermentation, Piddles wants to make distinctions.
Try this. Crush some grapes with your bare hands or any unsanitzed tool , you know pre microbiology style, fill a large container with juice and let sit for more than 24 hours.
you have a lightly alcoholic beverage getting more alcoholic with each passing hour.
So while it figures that the ancients interchangeably used wine and grape juice, if you’re insinuating that there was a non alcoholic beverage blessed by your holy text is, like so much if your act, myth.
C’mon, Goldy. I’m pretty sure — having been a fan of HA Bible study for several years now — that this verse is a retread.
We could use some new scripture to mock and whack and hack.
How about some Koranic verses? You were doing well with the Mormoid scripture. There’s plenty more where that craziness came from.
That’s your answer to your stupid question SENILE and DUMB Wabbit!
checkmate… where in Goldy’s Biblical extraction does it say
Stooooooooooopid as ever checkmate!
more for checkmate…
and more
There are two words translated in the King James Bible checkmate…
Wine – yayin for fermented and unfermented wine
and shekar – strong drink as in Proverbs 31.
Sux to be checkmated again!
@12 Really, puddy, I mean it. You don’t have to be crazy all the time. We’ll let you take breaks. Our union contract says you can.
Personally, I prefer Crown Royal to wine.
I do remember way way back in my youth a certain Baptist preacher who would go on and on about how the “wine” of the bible was just grape juice. Oddly, everything else in the bible was the pure inerrant and revealed word of the almighty and any attempt to interpret the holy writ would earn one a one way ticket to hellfire eternal.
On the subject of burning forever in hell, I did serve for ten years as a volunteer fireman and saw people who actually burned to death. Any magical space fairy who would call down such suffering on a human being would be a true dick unworthy of worship or even a dinner invitation.
@ 16
Ugh, too sweet. I’ve always been a single-malt man meself. Oban, Glenmorrangie or Lagavulin. Something along that line. The Speysides are a little sharp for me but I wouldn’t kick it out of bed, except maybe to drink it on the floor.
Puddy
Solomon, the wisest man who ever lived? You say this because he was a polygamist and a spendthrift?
Just to be kind to Me, could someone tell me that nothing 9n the “bible” say6s that I endorsed Solomon as an example of wisdom?
It seems to me that you have a rather odd collection of My truths.
@ 19
Thats what happens when Frank Burns discovers the internet.
Maybe I should offer a service, certifying what in Mine ans what is n9t mine?
Here is a start, I disown anything wri8tten that claims t be Mt sole truth.
@21:
Do you also disown (don’t you mean disavow?) spell-checkers?
Spell checkers … can yuor ead Caaani? Wuld that help you?
But no, I disown what has been given by men to Me.
@14
Awesome. When claiming proof of the devine word of God, always go with The King James Bible. Ever hear of the Reformation? Know that the King James is a translation of a translation not of a contemporary, as if such a thing exists, original text? Know that it was a translation by committee to create a version that was acceptable to English Puritans as well as the new Church of England? Oh you poor uneducated believer.
And sure, quote Solomon “the wisest”, one of the biblical figures for whom virtually no historical proof of existence has been found. Hang your argument’s hat on the legendary words of a probably not existant ruler. Go with King Arthur. There’s every bit as much historical proof of his existence. We have his mighty words written down too.
Science has a way of getting in the way of ancient texts. The second grapes are pressed into must they are exposed to environmental yeast. Fermentation has begun. But as you assert, according to legend, Soloman demands that such must be consumed immediately. Any leftovers are to be discarded as they can’t be allowed to ferment lest it become blasphemous.
That is being overly generous allowing “the wisest who ever lived” actually did.
There are modern examples of alcoholic beverages produced without innocluation but using only the spontaneous addition of atmospheric yeast in the ancient tradition.
Nice try Piddles.
“Devine” ??? You mean, of course, Andy….