by Goldy, 11/24/2005, 9:51 PM

Last week I mentioned that the list of 1944 voters who had their registration challenged by Lori Sotelo and the GOP included a prominent local musician. Well, WashBlog’s coverage of Wednesday’s hearing revealed him to be former Soundgarden lead guitarist, Kim Thayil.

Thayil spoke in his own defense:

“I am concerned about people in my situation

83 Responses to “GOP “may have manifested the intention” of disenfranchising voters”

1. Mr. Cynical spews:

Goldy—
The Band dude ADMITTED he filled out an ILLEGAL REGISTRATION.
He admitted it.
Isn’t this guy bright enough to at least ASK KingCo Elections what he can and can’t do before just ASS/U/ME he can ILLEGAL REGISTER?????

2. Roger Rabbit spews:

“Democratic lawyers have contended that Republicans will have to provide the current residential address to successfully challenge each voter on our list. That is false.” — Chris Rants, chair, Washington Fascist Party

Hey Chris, you fucking liar, try this on for size:

“RCW 29A.08.830(1)

” … The person filing the challenge must furnish the address at which the challenged voter actually resides.”

http://www.leg.wa.gov/RCW/index.cfm?section=29A.08.830&fuseaction=section

3. Goldy spews:

Cynical @1,

It was not an ILLEGAL REGISTRATION. It may be ruled technically invalid, but it was not “illegal” and you and your party’s continued efforts to describe it as such is dishonest and meanspirited. This is an eligible voter who filled out a registration card that does not include instructions prohibiting the use of a PO Box.

You use the word ILLEGAL because you are trying to imply fraud, but in fact there was no fraud in this case or any other case the GOP has brought. If the GOP successfully disenfranchises people like Thayil, what will they have achieved? What harm will they have averted?

The purpose of these statutes is not to create hurdles to trip up potential voters, but rather to strike a balance between preventing fraud, and protecting the individual’s right to vote. Until you can prove to me that there is substantial illegal voting going on, you will not convince me that less than 200 otherwise eligible voters registered at mail boxes is much of a problem.

If the GOP was really interested in cleaning up the rolls rather than just scoring a PR hit, they would have provided the information to KCRE far in advance, instead of filing challenges days before the election.

4. headless lucy spews:

Kim Thayil can play every song from the Beatles WHITE ALBUM note for note. Anyone who can do that deserves a little privacy.

5. Mr. Cynical spews:

Goldy—
I didn’t say FRAUD…I said ILLEGAL
ILLEGAL means NOT LEGAL.
It should have never been accepted.
Many county’s immediately challenge these NOT LEGAL registrations because they want to make sure they are LEGAL and the people can LEGALLY vote.
I’m not for this kind of gotcha bullshit….however, Logan specifically stated on several occassions it’s up to other voters to find NOT LEGAL registrations.
Doesn’t Logan have some culpability here in your eyes Goldy????

6. headless lucy spews:

re 1: Goldy has explained ad-infinitum that these are not ILLEGAL registrations. I would think that recent events would have taught you NEO-CONS that repeating a falsehood over and over will not make the falsehood true.

By the way, the look on GWB’s face while trying to open that locked door and escape the press in China, was priceless. SABOTAGE, Mr. Cynical… Word to the wise…

7. Belltowner spews:

“Manifested”?

Assholes

8. headless lucy spews:

” Doors are locked from the other side.”

Chairman Mao

9. sgmmac spews:

Why isn’t Sam Reed running commercials and “educating” the voters? Didn’t he just get some millions to do this?

10. Roger Rabbit spews:

This ham-fisted fiasco shows up the Republicans for what they are — undemocratic fascists who want to keep people from voting.

Mass voter challenges targeted at Democratic precincts in one county filed 2 days before an election on fake affidavits with no evidence of ineligibility? Who does Vance think he’s fooling? No one can fail to see this sham for what it is.

11. Belltowner spews:

You know what, fuck the GOP. If a military serviceman has an absentee ballot mailed a day late, they go apeshit. But when regular people just want to vote, and they live in Democratic precincts, the GOP goes absolutely beyond bounds to keep their votes from counting. Doubly so if they are brown skinned.

12. Roger Rabbit spews:

@6

“Goldy has explained ad-infinitum that these are not ILLEGAL registrations.”

Wingnuts think repeating a lie makes it true.

13. Roger Rabbit spews:

I wonder how many Republicans in rural counties on farms and ranches that don’t have street addresses are registered to vote at rural or postal box numbers?

14. Roger Rabbit spews:

Reply to 11

We should conduct our own voter suppression operations in GOP counties, and inconvenience their voters. One good turn deserves another.

15. Roger Rabbit spews:

I have an idea — let’s challenge every voter in every county that went for Rossi who didn’t provide a house number and street on his voter registration.

16. klake spews:

If the GOP were interested in cleaning up the rolls rather than just scoring a PR hit, they would have provided the information to KCRE far in advance, instead of filing challenges days before the election.

Comment by Goldy— 11/24/05 @ 10:09 pm

Goldy what do we pay county workers to do for their pay?
Who is in charge to make that happen?
The GOP should not be doing the county work for them and the state should be investigated the county and reporting the findings to the voters. The Federal Government should investigate and charge Ron Sims if the military votes and ballots are not received by the troops on time. All personal that knowingly ignore fraud should also be charged. I do not care what party you belong your ballot should be counted except legal residences.

17. Belltowner spews:

“The GOP should not be doing the county(sic) work for them”

Yeah… I don’t know if it was EVER the county’s job to disenfranchise the voters. That’s your job.

18. klake spews:

1. You know what, fuck the GOP. If a military serviceman has an absentee ballot mailed a day late, they go apeshit. But when regular people just want to vote, and they live in Democratic precincts, the GOP goes absolutely beyond bounds to keep their votes from counting. Doubly so if they are brown skinned.
Comment by Belltowner— 11/24/05 @ 10:24 pm
Belltowner I see you do not like servicemen who fight for other peoples rights to vote but you don’t want to protect their’s. I saw the ballots leave one county three weeks before the election, which means they did not get their votes counted. You have over a 100,000 troops in multiple countries on the move, it takes days for mail to move in or out of a war zone. If the state or county are late making or shipping they (the Troops) don’t get their ballot counted.

19. RUFUS spews:

Speaking of disenfranchising voters, I spoke to another military person who said is vote was not counted in 2004 in King County. Goldy doesn’t bring this topic up much but the disenfranchisement of the military vote is a big problem. The right wing needs to fight for all military voters to be heard on Election Day.

20. RUFUS spews:

We should conduct our own voter suppression operations in GOP counties, and inconvenience their voters. One good turn deserves another.

Comment by Roger Rabbit— 11/24/05 @ 10:31 pm

I wish the democrats would do this and have them make as much noise as possible if they find any cheating going on. The donks would never do this because they don’t want to be serious about voter fraud, they would lose too many votes state wide.

21. Janet S spews:

I really don’t care that this artist is so self important that he needs his privacy. Sorry, but voting is a public act, and needs to stand up to public scrutiny. I want to make sure that those voting in my area are legal residents. If this guy is so afraid that someone will discover who he is and where he lives, well, that’s life. It doesn’t make him more important than the rest of us who have to submit a real residence.

22. RUFUS spews:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002643642_cheney24.html

Holy Diebold voting machine malfunction batman. Could this be the same diabolical villain who did this to the CNN TV equipment?

23. Roger Rabbit spews:

Klake the Flake @17

“I saw the ballots leave one county three weeks before the election, which means they did not get their votes counted. You have over a 100,000 troops in multiple countries on the move, it takes days for mail to move in or out of a war zone. If the state or county are late making or shipping they (the Troops) don’t get their ballot counted.”

Fact Check — King County mailed all of its overseas ballots by Oct. 8, and of over 15,000 overseas ballots mailed, only 16 weren’t counted because they were returned too late. It is unknown how many, if any, of these 16 ballots were military voters because King County does not differentiate between overseas military and civilian ballots. It also is unknown how many of these ballots — perhaps all — were received late because of voter procrastination. Military voters simply WERE NOT disenfranchised in the Nov. 2004 election, and GOP representations to that effect are a lie.

Fact Check — This year, Democratic legislators proposed moving the primary to August to give counties more time to get ballots to military and other absentee voters. It didn’t pass because Republicans obstructed it.

Klake, I have a question — why do our Republican legislators hate military voters?

24. Roger Rabbit spews:

@18

“disenfranchisement of the military vote is a big problem”

bullshit

25. RUFUS spews:

Rabbit– who said, King County? Are we to take the word of a bunch of cheating donks!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The Republicans love the military and take care of them. Why do you think that over 70% of active service members vote republican?

26. Roger Rabbit spews:

@18 (continued)

Fact Check — Washington is the easiest state for military voters to vote in. They do not even have to be registered to vote. They do not need an absentee ballot to vote. They do not need to know the names of the candidates they want to vote for. A military voter can get a Federal Write In Ballot from his unit’s Voting Assistance Officer. If he is serving in Iraq or Afghanistan, he does not need a stamp to mail it. He does not even need a FWIB — he can tear the cover off an MRE box, print his name on it, write “President, Republican, Governor, Republican, State Representatives, Republican,” etc. on it, put it in an envelope and write “King County Elections, Seattle, WA” on it, and it will be a counted vote.

To those who have posted on this thread that King County disenfranchised military voters, my reply is, bullshit — you are lying.

27. Roger Rabbit spews:

Reply to 24

Fuck you

28. RUFUS spews:

Until KCRE passes an independent audit anything they say is total BS.

29. Roger Rabbit spews:

SELLING FAILURE

Ex-FEMA director Mark Brown, who orchestrated the disastrous federal non-response to the Katrina disaster, is starting a new consulting business. He plans to use his experience in running FEMA to give advice to other managers — on how NOT to do it. For a hefty fee, of course.

Hey Brown, I have a suggestion: Tell your clients that when they get fired, they should delete all their e-mails before they leave the office.

30. Roger Rabbit spews:

Reply to 27

Since your lobotomy, everything you’ve said is total BS.

31. Roger Rabbit spews:

CHENEY BREAKS CNN COMPUTER

“NEW YORK — CNN has apologized for a ‘technical malfunction’ that briefly flashed a black ‘X’ mark over the face of Vice President Dick Cheney during the network’s coverage of a speech Monday.

“… CNN said that some of its machinery had a ‘momentary glitch’ and that no human operator was involved. The ‘X’ is something used by a computer to mark a space where one visual element is to segue into another, and is normally not seen by viewers. The network likened its appearance to a computer that inexplicably freezes.

“The ‘X’ is something used by a computer to mark a space where one visual element is to segue into another, and is normally not seen by viewers. The network likened its appearance to a computer that inexplicably freezes.”

Hmmm … CNN’s computer took one look at American’s Head Torturer and its circuits froze! Do computers have feelings?

32. Anonym spews:

To Roger:

Two wrongs don’t make a right, and disenfranchisi¤ €Ù‹

33. Daniel K spews:

Janet said, “Sorry, but voting is a public act, and needs to stand up to public scrutiny.

Actually, voting is a very private act. That’s why we don’t write our names on our ballots.

But I quibble.

34. willisreed spews:

Re: Anonym @31

Screw that – an eye for an eye will teach these bastards a lesson – one that they sorely need.

I’ve been saying for a while that if the Republicans are going to make up new rules as they go, it’s time for us to do the same!

35. sgmmac spews:

Rabitt,

Someone, I think maybe Leno did a spoof of the X’s…… They showed the X over Cheney, then they showed a XXL over Teddy Kennedy, and they showed XXX over Clinton………. it was funny.

36. Boeing Bob spews:

Can Bill rub as the VP? God, oh God, what a ticket…..

What history or herstory as well….

Alon th the locked door in China wah the great face of perplexed moron and the the comment” I am trying to escape” — intrnatinal TV ran it over and over….

Great comment about Mao giving advice on who locks doors.

For all the R’s here in Washington, please run Rossi again, if you can find where he is hiding. Word on the street is he is living on all the mony collected for the challenge and left from his campaign funds.

Andlet us ask him a lot of questions about money for roads.

37. Mom spews:

God, you union people are retarded. That happens when other
people think for you your whole life.

38. hardovertoport spews:

rufs@ 25: this is a military household. Carreer military, now retired. Voted absentee for entire career. Ballots were not mailed or received late. The military makes every effort to see that soldiers have a chance to vote. If you knew ANYTHING about the mloiary, you’d know at least that.

Roger Rabbit, thanks for setting the record straight on this issue…again.

39. hardovertoport spews:

Clarification @38: We always received our ballots on time, and were reminded to mail them in on time. They were NOT received late.

40. Roger Rabbit spews:

Reply to 25

“The Republicans love the military and take care of them.”

Bullshit

41. Roger Rabbit spews:

Reply to 35

Letterman did a spoof too — he showed the Cheney “X” clip, then added horns, a tail, and flames — which is entirely appropriate for America’s Head Torturer. This man is going to Hell.

42. Janet S spews:

re Daniel @33:
Your vote is private, the act of voting is public.

Is that so hard to understand?

43. klake spews:

Military voters simply WERE NOT disenfranchised in the Nov. 2004 election, and GOP representations to that effect are a lie.

Comment by Roger Rabbit— 11/24/05 @ 11:22 pm
Wabbit I didn’t reference to any one country, but it was Snohomish County.
1. Fact Check – This year, Democratic legislators proposed moving the primary to August to give counties more time to get ballots to military and other absentee voters. It didn’t pass because Republicans obstructed it.
Comment by Roger Rabbit— 11/24/05 @ 11:22 pm

Klake, I have a question – why do our Republican legislators hate military voters?
Wabbit the word hate is a strong word and is used out of context and it loose it’s value today, like F@&K is substituted for just about everything. Both parties have their bad day with the military, but the Republicans take better care of them unlike the Democrats.

1. Fact Check – This year, Democratic legislators proposed moving the primary to August to give counties more time to get ballots to military and other absentee voters. It didn’t pass because Republicans obstructed it.
Comment by Roger Rabbit— 11/24/05 @ 11:22 pm
Wabbit anything that goes wrong in legislation is the Democratic short comings not the Republicans, Democrats rule the state right now un-obstructed.

44. Mr. Cynical spews:

JanetS–
Well said my dear.
Unfortunately, Daniel doesn’t WANT to get it….thus he never will.

45. GBS spews:

@ 42

“. . . voting is a public act, and needs to stand up to public scrutiny.”

Specifically, what is it about Kim Thayil’s case that does not stand up to public scrutiny?

46. GBS spews:

Klake @ 43

wrote: “Wabbit anything that goes wrong in legislation is the Democratic short comings not the Republicans, Democrats rule the state right now un-obstructed. ”

So this must be true for everything that has gone wrong at the national level including cutting VA benefits, cutting combat pay, recalling the body armour that does not peform, lack of properly armed vehichles, a radically out of control federal spending, etc, right?

Or is that somehow the Dem’s fault, too?

47. James S. spews:

Teh six years I was in the military I never once received my ballot. So don’t try to apply your small experience with tthe military to all of us who served during a conflict. During desert storm only one person in my command received a ballot and it was late. We filled out our request together but they never came. There was almost 400 of us on that ship in the Persian Gulf. So don’t tell us we got them when we never did.

48. RUFUS spews:

Actually, voting is a very private act. That’s why we don’t write our names on our ballots.

But I quibble.

Too bad we cant keep all the democrats that you donks vote for private. My wallet would sure appreciate it.

49. RUFUS spews:

James S

It sounds like most of your unit probably was registered in a donkacratic county. These donks on this site are hillarious.

50. RUFUS spews:

Clarification @38: We always received our ballots on time, and were reminded to mail them in on time. They were NOT received late.

Comment by hardovertoport— 11/25/05 @ 9:21 am

Now try to convince James S that he got his ballot or the other 400 who served with him. I am glad you got yours, but if you don’t think there is a problem with military personnel getting their ballots on time you are either naive or not paying attention.

51. RUFUS spews:

Wow there is an example of 400 soldiers who did not receive their ballots on time to the three example you donks gave that there is no problem. Huh….400-3… that sounds familiar.

52. sgmmac spews:

I have a good friend in Iraq and his ballot wasn’t counted last Nov 04. We live in Thurston County. It can take as long as 3 to 4 weeks to get mail in and out of Iraq. I also saw quite a few “submarine ballots” that weren’t counted in the Nov 04 election. They are some type of a military ballot and why they weren’t counted, who knows?

53. yo spews:

If you are a carrier out at sea your mail service depends on the cod(carrier onboard delivery)C-2 and the first pri is not the mail its parts for the aircraft that are being worked on ive seen time that we did not get mail for over three weeks. and if we were scheduled to go into port the ship would send a message to have the mail deverted to that port so we had no mail until we got to port.so if your in the military and your stationed in the states you may get your ballot on time.if you are fowarded deployed or on a ship your chances of getting your ballot on time are rather nil and that is just the way it is.they need to send ballots out at least 30 days before an election if you want the military to vote.and then i think there is a 50/50 chance they will get back in time or at lease get a post mark.one other problem is that when we were deployed we would write free where the stamp went thus no post mark i do not know if people are still getting free mail as i retired and im not up on that stuff any more.

54. righton spews:

Where is DJ and rest of libs worrying about the homeless not voting; wow, I’d sure rather have Military vote than worry about some hobos.

(ps, how about a sobriety test when voting)? Pee in a cup, run a dna analaysis, and get a big database to keep 1 vote per person.

Who would replace Dean Logan..

55. GBS spews:

@ 54

How about the hobos(ie republican speak for homeless) who are vets?

Do those vets deserve to vote? Or, because they are bums and hobos their past service just doesn’t fucking count any more!

I suppose an Iraqi War vet dosen’t deserve to vote either. Here’s a link for you.

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20041207-121848-6449r.htm

Grow up!

56. James S. spews:

I was part of the Lincoln battle group. It took longer than the carrier to get mail when you were out to sea. The reason was the carrier got the mail for the whole battle group. Than they had to helo over our mail from the carrier. Plus just like Yo said if it was close to import by a couple of weeks we wouldn’t get mail call till we got into port. Of course the last thing they brought aboard was the mail. First power, phone lines, parts, food, than mail. We only had one PC and he got stuck humping on all the mail bags unless we volunteered to help. Which most people were on working parties for all the other priority stuff? Than after it got on board it took over a day to sort it. The captain down is how the order went for delivery to the personal. People who have not served their country in the Military will never understand what really happens when you’re deployed to foreign soil or sea.

57. hardovertoport spews:

James S @47: Did you wait until you were on the ship to request an absentee ballot form? Was that the first time you voted? If they need to be mailed earlier then the legislature needs to deal with that – how much time do you think they should allow? 4weeks? Six weeks? 3 months? If you’re not getting your mail, the problem could be anywhere in the pipeline – however, it does not mean, that an elections office, with malice aforethouight, refused to mail your ballot on time! Methinks you’re massaging a persecution complex.

58. Roger Rabbit spews:

@32

Are you serious? The Republithugs have removed the last vestigates of “right and wrong” from politics. The only thing that matters now is tactics.

59. Roger Rabbit spews:

@43

“Both parties have their bad day with the military, but ”

That’s a crock and you know it!

1. The Repubicans sent soldiers to Iraq without armor because they were too cheap to pay for it — tax cuts for the rich were a higher priority.

2. The Repubicans are trying to push wounded G.I.s out of military hospitals into the V.A. system to save money — so they can give the rich more tax cuts.

3. The Republicans cut veterans benefits to save money — so they can give more subsidies to big corporations and more tax cuts to the rich.

60. James S. spews:

Reply to 57.

I’m out of the military now. But the whole command filled out the request at the same time. I never got to vote till I was a civilian. I can not remember how long in advance the command would have us fill them out. But I would say at least a minimum of three months ahead of time should allow for a proper response. We would get our normal mail in the same routine. Plus you should note that everyone in the command had different home of records. So it was not issolated just to one state having the problem. My home of record until I was out of the Military was Texas. The joke on the ship was we could die for our country but we couldn’t vote for who sent us to our death. Clinton was President when I got out. So it’s been a few years. I’ve voted every year since I got out.

61. Roger Rabbit spews:

@43

“Wabbit anything that goes wrong in legislation is the Democratic short comings not the Republicans, Democrats rule the state right now un-obstructed.”

Hogwash. The Democrats have only a 2-vote majority in the state senate, and one of those is a DINO – democrat in name only — so the Republicans COULD and DID block an August primery. That gives election offials less time to print and mail general election ballots. Consequently, if military voters have a problem getting their ballots in time, they should complain to Pam Roach.

62. Roger Rabbit spews:

50

Why do you assume the problems are caused by the county? The fault would appear to lie with the military postal system.

63. JCH spews:

Republicans should just leave the state. Let the “guvment” hacks, blacks, and welfare libs tax eaxh other. Move all private sector jobs out of Democrat states. Let the parasites eat each other.

64. James S. spews:

The problem is the ballots are not sent out in time to allow for these delays. The mail for the West coast goes to San-Fran before it is dispatched to the ships. This is how it was for my Dad the 22 years he served in the Navy and my Grand-pa who served 25 years in the Marines. They know of the delays they just refuse to compensate for them.

65. Roger Rabbit spews:

@53

“they need to send ballots out at least 30 days before an election if you want the military to vote.”

That’s not possible on our current election schedule. This year, the primary was held on September 20 and certified on October 20; the general election was held on November 2. That gave county auditors only 12 days to print and mail ballots.

66. Roger Rabbit spews:

So why do Republicans block moving the primary to August?

67. For the Clueless spews:

DOOFUS, WrongOne: Supports poll taxes and literacy tests written by reactionaries – anything to suppress voting so reactionaries hold on to power forever.

They can’t understand why there isn’t martial law so George Bush and Tom DeLay can rule the country for life.

68. Roger Rabbit spews:

@63

“The problem is the ballots are not sent out in time to allow for these delays. The mail for the West coast goes to San-Fran before it is dispatched to the ships. This is how it was for my Dad the 22 years he served in the Navy and my Grand-pa who served 25 years in the Marines. They know of the delays they just refuse to compensate for them.”

That’s not the fault of election officials. General election ballots can’t be printed until the primary electon is certified. It takes time to print and mail over 1 million absentee ballots from King County, and that had only a few days to do it.

69. righton spews:

using a rock band to convince us?

Wow, guess you and your Stranger/Weekly buds think they are worthy?

I don’t know the band enough to know if they are or are not drug addicts, but certainly being a vagabond is no great excuse..??

70. RUFUS spews:

That’s not the fault of election officials. General election ballots can’t be printed until the primary electon is certified. It takes time to print and mail over 1 million absentee ballots from King County, and that had only a few days to do it.

Comment by Roger Rabbit— 11/25/05 @ 1:22 pm

I guess it would depend on who you were. Of course it takes a long time to get a ballot from a donk run county if you are a military person. But if you are a vagrant or homeless person those same donks are calling on the party vans to pick you up and register and vote all on the same night of the election. Priorities you kna.

71. GBS spews:

You’d think in this day in age they’d just send the ballots forms via an electronic transmission to be printed out on board the ships or at a particular military base overseas. It would seem to me to seriously speed up the process of mail outbound to the forward deployed troops. The only snag in the system would be the snail mail coming back as hardcopy.

72. sgmmac spews:

I think I read that they don’t want to move the primary back because it would hamper their own elections and raising money, something about they can’t campaign while the legislature is in session. It’s always about the money!

73. righton spews:

I think dems spend all their brainpower on empowring the homeless and guitar players…

military is too boring to worry about

You’d think if they could devise a system for the hobos…they could do better fro our fighting men/women.. heck let them fax in their votes, fraud by the military would be about 0%

74. klake spews:

1. Hogwash. The Democrats have only a 2-vote majority in the state senate, and one of those is a DINO – democrat in name only – so the Republicans COULD and DID block an August primary. That gives election offal’s less time to print and mail general election ballots. Consequently, if military voters have a problem getting their ballots in time, they should complain to Pam Roach.
Comment by Roger Rabbit— 11/25/05 @ 1:06 pm
Wabbit you are stuck on you tread mill today. Pam Roach has nothing to do with local government shortcomings and as you have read, most military voters are disenfranchised today with the present system. Pan Roach cannot fix that problem without some local out cry. Therefore, rabbit you could thump your right leg and maybe some will help.

1. 3. The Republicans cut veterans benefits to save money – so they can give more subsidies to big corporations and more tax cuts to the rich.
Comment by Roger Rabbit— 11/25/05 @ 1:02 pm
Wabbit did you mail back your tax cut that showed up in the mail?
Lawyers, doctors, and millionaires are not to be trusted! That’s what my dad told me about doing business with and not to trust. I have one other to add and that is REPORTERS. Right Wabbit?

75. headless lucy spews:

Goldy: Whose blog is this? Yours or these righty troglodyte commenters? Anytime the heat gets too intense on uSP you will find them banning people, erasing comments, posting ridiculous comments using our monnikers, erasing protests to these actions so they appear to stand. And , I’ll tell you what: Mr. Cynical has the wherewithal to do these editorial tricks himself. I called him on it here and he told me I didn’t have a ,”sense of humor.” Why not let these idiots have their say once a day and then ban them for the rest of theday. Their repetitive nonsense drives people away after a while. Let them blow each other over at uSP.

“You can only defeat a knave with more knavery.”

Niccolo Macchiavelli

76. headless lucy spews:

re 68: Righton: You sound so old.

77. righton spews:

thanks. Wisdom comes with it..

78. sgmmac spews:

Soundgarden is a great band. I am surprised that he didn’t invest some of those millions into buying a home in Seattle, since he considers Seattle his home. You would think that he has some sort of ties with the community and our legislature should pass a law that allows the “famous” people some privacy. It would NOT be that hard for Dean Logan to assign this guy to a precinct near his community, where ever he considers it to be. I am curious what the address on his Driver’s License says, because in some states those are public records. When the State’s Database goes into effect in Jan, they are going to cross check voter registrations with other state records so it should clean up the voter rolls. At least that’s what they told me in an email, we shall see.

79. righton spews:

$1 says the grunge guy has never pulled jury duty..

80. hardovertoport spews:

James@60: Good for you for being such an active voter. I was not familiar with the situation on troop ships. After voting absenttee for so many years, I became a poll voter once we sat ourselves in one place long enough. I still believe that absenttee voting ought to be reserved for those folks who absolutely cannot exercise the poll option. I know I am in the minority with this point of view,however, I believe that absentee voting for everyone drives up campaign costs for the candidates to astronomical levels, becasue it forces them into heavier direct mail campaigns. This is particularly critical in local races, especially in small towns, where the races are supposed to be nonpartisan and where you NEED the best candidates you can field, but the expense forces it into a partisan, money, arena, just because the candidates need funding from the parties. Question: Whileyou were on the troop ship, did you have a chance to vote for your local candidates? Did you get ballots in the off years? Just curious.

81. James S. spews:

Reply to 79.
During my six years in the military I never once received a ballot. I registered at 18. I was signed up for the military at 17. I didn’t get to vote until I was 25 when I changed my home of record to WA. and registered when I received my drivers license. Texas was the one who dropped the ball during my active duty years.

82. hardovertoport spews:

James S. @ 79: I am just appalled by that. I wonder now, if this situation is worse on ships vs. land, are certain APO’s more vulnerable to this, etc. What set of circumstances produces this? It is not acceptable. I also have to wonder whether or not states send ballots during the off-years for local elections now. Or, since you mentioned Texas, if Texas sent ballots to APO’s but not to ships? Or, if their policy was to only send ballots during national elections. We’re from the mid-West, but it was never a problem for us. OK, here’s my standard advice to all young troops: Subscribe to your local paper. If you’re not getting your local paper, let your local paper know that and then ask them to check on the ballot situation if you haven’t received a ballot, and let your reps. know, too. Local newspapers will often help out a hometown person.

BTW: Thank you for your service.

83. Sandals spews:

*rolls eyes*

Way to read the original post RightOn.