Friday Night Open Thread


  1. 1

    rob spews:

    Shrieking liberals shrieking YES! NO! hugging, crying and petting each other. Now that’s entertainment.

  2. 2

    rhp6033 spews:

    Okay, this is funny.

    I found this on the Seattle Times website at 7:15 p.m., expect it to be removed any minute now.

    “Friday, February 29, 2008 – Page updated at 07:02 PM

    WASHINGTON _ Kill the short headline in BC-White House-Plagiarism, 9th Ld, which moved at 6:35 p.m. EST. A presidential aide resigned, not Bush.

    The AP”

  3. 4

    JackM spews:

    Here’s something of a thought or two about all of those “bums” in downtown (Seattle..[insert your city here]):

    “Google Gives All SF Homeless Free Voicemail

    updated 8:19 a.m. PT, Thurs., Feb. 28, 2008

    SAN FRANCISCO, Calif. – Google has made an announcement that could help hundreds of homeless people in San Francisco get back on their feet.
    Every single homeless person in the city will be given a life-long phone number and voicemail, should they choose to accept it, NBC11’s Lisa Bernard said.
    Google is partnering with San Francisco to provide the service to homeless individuals and to shelters and agencies so they can distribute the numbers to their clients.
    The announcement was made at a Project Homeless Connect event at the Bill Graham Civic Auditorium Wednesday.
    A homeless person will be able to call in for his or her messages from any phone.
    The move by the city and the company would allow someone to be able to fill out a job application, which asks for a call back number.
    It will allow clinics to share test results.
    Mayor Gavin Newsom and Google said they want to empower people.
    “How do you communicate as a homeless individual? ” Newsom asked. “How do you expect your life to turn around if you can’t even get information or if someone can’t even get in touch with you?”
    “It just seems exactly like any other voice mail,” said Craig Walker, senior project manager of Google. “There’s no stigma attached to it that ‘hey this is a temporary thing’ or ‘this is an 800 number.’ It’s really just a local number owned by the user.”
    One man who used to be homeless said the right message can raise the spirit.
    “Having your family, friends and loved ones being able to say ‘here I’m thinking about you, I love you, I want you to know you’re mine, and I miss you,’ can have a monumental change in one’s behavior.”
    “Providing phone and messaging capabilities and access to vital health care is an extraordinary step forward in the city’s commitment to a comprehensive approach to addressing the needs of this vulnerable community,” Newsom said.
    “We’re firm believers in the power of technology to improve the daily lives of individuals and communities as a whole, and we recognize that access to phone and voicemail services is one way that Google can help San Francisco’s homeless stay connected with family, friends, social workers, health care providers, and potential employers,” Walker said.
    Walker said the program was ready to start right away.
    Users can record their own greetings, and no indication is given to callers that the service is different from any other voicemail system.
    If the program is successful in San Francisco the plan is to offer it to homeless people in cities across the state and country.
    Homeless clients received phone service as part of their Project CARE (Communications and Respect for Everybody) cases.
    The California Pacific Medical Center also launched its pilot program that offered free mammograms to homeless women at the same event.
    The outreach effort marked the 21st Project Homeless Connect event at the auditorium.”

    …Gee…ya think helping someone else will help us all…??

  4. 5

    Tlazolteotl spews:

    @2: Oh, that is funny. I wonder if the headline writer had to quit too.

    That was pretty fast, you know. That little weasel only got caught by a blogger/former newspaper journalist this morning, but within about 45 minutes a bunch of commenters had found dozens of other examples. Originality just does not seem to be a strong suit of the ultra-wingnut.

  5. 6

    rob spews:

    RE: 5, Regarding Originality of conservatives I would put forth the late William F. Buckly R.I.P. If the liberals have anyone comparable I haven’t seen them. Joe Biden (plagiarist), Joyce Kerns Goodwyn (plagiarist) Borak Hussein Obama (plagiarist) want me to go on?

    Not that I am giving the whimp in the whitehouse a break, I am just pointing out that there are a number of weak indivduals on both sides of this debate.

  6. 10

    The Blatantly Obvious spews:

    @ 7 only a complete idiot would find Feb. snow in NH evidence against global warming.

    But then right when we saw the name of the person making the post, idiocy was assumed to ensue.

  7. 11

    rob spews:

    Jimmy Carter:

    Iran Hostage Anniversary

    Jimmy Carter:

    Carter’s presidency was marked by several major crises, including the takeover of the American embassy and holding of hostages by students in Iran, a failed rescue attempt of the hostages, serious fuel shortages, and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

    Jimmy Carter=Failure

  8. 13

    michael spews:

    Hey Rob,

    Why don’t answer the question you fucking, fuckwit.

    How many Diseases did your spoiled rich kid Buckley help eradicate?

  9. 14

    michael spews:

    Buckley was nothing but a pompous spoiled brat that never had to work a real job in his life. No wonder he was a Republican…

  10. 15

    rob spews:

    Some more of Jimmy’s failed presidency:

    During Carter’s administration, the economy suffered double-digit inflation, coupled with very high interest rates, oil shortages, high unemployment and slow economic growth. Productivity growth in the United States had declined to an average annual rate of 1 percent, compared to 3.2 percent of the 1960s. There was also a growing federal budget deficit which increased to 66 billion dollars.

  11. 16

    michael spews:

    How many Diseases did your spoiled rich kid Buckley help eradicate?

  12. 17

    sempersimper spews:

    Rob’s not going to answer any questions. He’s a vandal: he’s just in here to flame and shriek and try to create an uproar in a lib blog, because his group is losing its ass so fast it can’t keep track of where its rear legs are, and the only thing left to do is puke out his litany of imagined liberal offenses that his masters have given him for times like these. It’s all he knows.

  13. 18

    sempersimper spews:

    Rob’s not going to answer any questions. He’s a vandal: he’s just in here to flame and shriek and try to create an uproar in a lib blog, because his group is losing its ass so fast it can’t keep track of where its rear legs are, and the only thing left to do is puke out his litany of imagined liberal offenses that his masters have given him for times like these. It’s all he knows.

  14. 19

    rob spews:

    Re: 113, Michael, I don’t respond to a liberal who’s entire vocabulay consists of: fuck, fucking, shit, piss, cunt et. al. sorry. Jimmy Carter caused more suffering than any other president in the history of the United States. The fact that he tried to make up for it after he was defeated is like a rapist joining a church.

  15. 20

    michael spews:

    I’m aware of Carters failures as a president. I’m also aware of the many failings of both Bushes, Regan, Nixon and Ford.

    What I want to know is:
    How many Diseases did your spoiled rich kid Buckley help eradicate? How many starving people did he feed? How many homeless people did he house? How many illiterate people can read now because of his actions?

  16. 22

    michael spews:

    Um… I use lots of word Rob and I didn’t use most of the ones on your list you worthless little goat-fucking momma’s boy.

  17. 24

    michael spews:


    “Jimmy Carter caused more suffering than any other president in the history of the United States.”

    Actually, that honor belongs to our current president.

  18. 25

    michael spews:


    “Rob’s not going to answer any questions.”

    I’m just enjoying a little blood sport at his expense. A couple more good kicks and he shouldn’t have any teeth left in his head.

  19. 26

    The Blatantly Obvious spews:

    @ 12 Michael Asher is a lunatic fring wingnut, and posting one of his blog crapfests proved what, rob?

    That you wouldn’t know real science if it hit you on the head? That Michael Ahser’s statistical analysis is as coherent as a PuddyStudy?

    So you think that if one year is not the “hottest” on record it disproves global warming?

    All that would prove is that you are as much of a lunatic as Michael Asher.

    But we already knew that, rob.

  20. 27

    rob spews:

    RE: 20, In case you failed history, William Buckley was a writer, not a president. I am not sure that I am aware of any writers that cured dieses as I am not sure of any presidents other than George W. Bush tried so hard to.

    Here is what one of you liberal Icons had to say about Bush though.

    Bob Geldof:
    It is some story. And I have always wondered why it was never told properly to the American people, who were paying for it. It was, for example, Bush who initiated the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR) with cross-party support led by Senators John Kerry and Bill Frist. In 2003, only 50,000 Africans were on HIV antiretroviral drugs — and they had to pay for their own medicine. Today, 1.3 million are receiving medicines free of charge. The U.S. also contributes one-third of the money for the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria — which treats another 1.5 million. It contributes 50% of all food aid (though some critics find the mechanism of contribution controversial). On a seven-day trip through Africa, Bush announced a fantastic new $350 million fund for other neglected tropical diseases that can be easily eradicated; a program to distribute 5.2 million mosquito nets to Tanzanian kids; and contracts worth around $1.2 billion in Tanzania and Ghana from the Millennium Challenge Account, another initiative of the Bush Administration.,00.html

    I can’t find any record of Jimmy Carter doing anything like that during his Presidency, can you?

  21. 28

    rob spews:

    RE: 26. You must mean that if you actually report recorded data instead of drinking the liberal coolaid and ignoring it you are somehow marginalized? The propaganda of the left works well on retard like yourself.

  22. 29

    The Blatantly Obvious spews:

    rob, he is not reporting data he is misinterpreting it to feed his wingnut audience.

    I see you are well fed.

  23. 30

    rob spews:

    Re: 25, The only kicks in the head liberals are brave enough to do is safely in their mothers basements on the interwebs.

    You are such a “tough guy” Michael, I am impressed and so scared.

  24. 33

    The Blatantly Obvious spews:

    I’ll try it this way,

    rob, you won’t understand this, because it is real science. And you won’t believe it, because it is not from a wingnut blog.

    But here is what is really happening.

  25. 34

    rob spews:

    RE: 29, look I am not in the business of hooking up all the links to try and educate the uneducated like yourself. I will point you in the right direction though. Like , World Snow Coverage Greatest since 1966, Artic Ice highest since the 70’s, China experiencing coldest temperatures in 50 years.

    Here is another link for you since you are obviously a lemming and to intellectually incurious to explore on your own.

    Forget global warming: Welcome to the new Ice Age

    Snow cover over North America and much of Siberia, Mongolia and China is greater than at any time since 1966.

    The U.S. National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) reported that many American cities and towns suffered record cold temperatures in January and early February. According to the NCDC, the average temperature in January “was -0.3 F cooler than the 1901-2000 (20th century) average.”

    Now if you want to call these people liars, then prove they are wrong.

  26. 35

    michael spews:


    Hey, you actually answered a question! Good on ya!

    Bush has done a pretty good job on global AIDS, but he’s been a disaster on global warming, family planning, trade and water use which will quickly over-ride any success he’s had on his AIDS work. And then there’s his wars…

  27. 37

    michael spews:

    I’m off to bed. I have to do something in the morning that Wm. Buckely never had to do. Work at a real job!

  28. 38

    rob spews:

    RE: 35, I read it, it says the world is COOLING, is there something you don’t understad about that?

  29. 41

    The Blatantly Obvious spews:

    rob, it is a natural fluctuation, you moron! Every year is not gonna be the hottest, and some of them will be cooler.

    It is a trend over the last 150 years, not one data point you numbskull!

    But then I have argued with you before, and I am not going to waste another night again trying to talk intelligently to a kool-aid drunk brick wall.

  30. 43

    rob spews:

    Re: 36, I guess writing over 50 best selling books, starting a successful magazine, writing thousands of columns is not a real job. Sorry Michael, I usually don’t swear here but you have shit for brains… Sleep well before you go to your “real job” what a loser.

  31. 44

    YLB spews:

    From “How to Rig an Election”

    That gunslinger’s smile waxed across Martini’s face again. He reached across the desk, grabbed my shoulder, and said, “Now you’re thinking like an attorney! Write the press release and I’ll handle Tromeur”….

    I’m sure I looked surprised. … I was about to ask him why we’d just gone through this prolonged excercise when his laughter cut me off.

    “There’s always more than one way to look at a problem. How you look at a problem dictates how you solve it. Am I right?” he said. “It takes practice, but it’s a habit worth adopting. Take a good look around after you learn to see the world in a different dimension, then tell me what you see”

    The world looked expansive. I was truly beginning to understand how few metaphysical limitations a person is up against once he decides that the truth is what he makes it. From then on, two plus two would equal whatever sum I found most useful.

  32. 46

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Today will go down in history as the day chimpface announced we’re not in a recession.

  33. 47

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Looks like “Hannah” bugged out after getting exposed as a lying wingnut troll.

  34. 48

    rob spews:

    RE: 40, first you were denying the facts, now that you believe they are real you have to keep in faith with your
    Global Warming Religion and say it’s an anomoly? Did you say that in 1998 when it was “supposed” to be the hottest year on record? Of course now that it has been proven that the whack Job from NASA(I can’t remember his name, he was on 60 minutes, a frail looking little moron) cooked the books and it really wasn’t and the warmest year was in the 30’s. You have to come up with some facts, got any? I do.

  35. 49

    Mark The Redneck-Wonk spews:

    You fucking nitwits think it’s cute for vote for fucking idiots like Senator Dimwit and LiarFuckingCantwell. We paid the price today with DOD deciding to buy a ferin tanker.

    You claim to care about the little guy, but these two stoopid fucking idiots couldn’t get the job done. Hunnerd billion dollars gone to fucking france.

    Scoop and Maggie woulda delivered this.

    Hope you’re fucking happy.

  36. 51

    rob spews:

    Re: 45, Whe we conservatives start calling Borak Hussien Obama “The Chimp” how are liberals going to react?

  37. 53

    sempersimper spews:


    Doesn’t matter rob. All you can DO is call people names.

    You’re about to be discarded from the body politic.


    With the rest of the waste.

  38. 54

    YLB spews:

    We paid the price today with DOD deciding to buy a ferin tanker.

    Hey, who’s running the DOD these days? I thought it was the guys with R’s next to their names.

    They went and bought frenchy airplanes.

    Pay your fucking gambling debt dumbass.

  39. 55

    YLB spews:

    And McCain didn’t like Boeing getting the work for some strange reason.

    Blame it on that dumbass too.

  40. 60

    Hannah spews:

    I think out state representatives need to fight tooth and nail against this tanker deal! I am STILL in shock! I thought for sure it was a shoe in for Boeing considering our economy is in the can, wouldn’t the best thing to do is keep jobs in America????

    What the hell were they thinking giving it to France, of all countries?!? IDIOTS!

  41. 61

    rob spews:

    I can’t believe that all the ignorant democrats the Californian and East Coaster transplants have elected to national government in this state are so inept that they lose this deal to the French. Democrats are losers!

  42. 62

    proud leftist spews:

    Ah, what a remarkable montage of what liberals create. Carell and Colbert on Comedy Central. Why is it that we don’t see such product from the conservative side of our country? Oh, that’s right, because being anally-retentive, scared to death, and intellectually lost usually doesn’t produce humor. Man, it would suck to be a conservative.

  43. 63

    rob spews:

    Re: 59, your state senators and house representatives are responsible for this disaster. Among others, it is no coincidence that the democrat house and senate have the lowest approval rating in the history of the US..

  44. 64

    rob spews:

    Re: 61, yes I agree, scream YES! Scream NO! And have two liberal men cry and pet each other and you will find and audience with those that make under $24,000 a year and call themselves democrats.

  45. 65

    Hannah spews:

    Rob-I know the approval ratings..point taken….NOW it’s time for the representatives to step up and fight harder. Without the tanker deal our state economy alone is going to suffer a massive setback. We are already in a financial strain.

  46. 67

    Hannah spews:

    Rob- do you know where I can find who was on the committee that approved this tanker deal to the french?

  47. 68

    rob spews:

    RE: 64, Hannah, I agree totally with you. The problem is that all the transplant liberals here have elected total idiots that lack the capacity to govern.

    They are too busy buying boats no one wants instead of taking care of the people’s business.

    Another problem is that on this site which is founded by an east coast transplant and ones like it are too busy trying to elect someone with a D by their name than someone who is competent. IE: Darcy Burner.

  48. 69

    rob spews:

    RE: 66, not offhand but it will be easy to find. I will imagine they will be famous tomorrow.

  49. 70

    Hannah spews:

    Rob- well here I have been called all sorts of names cuz I am not so far left as to have my head up my ass. Some here think I am a troll…LMAO! I have however voted for dems over the past 10 years. But I can see the issues you raise with the boat deals. I know we had some bad judgement calls there. We could have used those earmarks for alot of needed things.

    I keep looking up Dept of Def but of course nothing in there about who voted for what. The committee however has 13 dems and 12 reps, Hilary and McCain are part of it. I would love to know how each one voted on the deal!

  50. 72

    rob spews:

    Seattle gets a $4.5 million boat that nobody wants and France gets a $40 Billion contract to build airplanes that we need and want. Thanks Patty Murray! Who knew that we build airplanes in Seattle?

    I also owe a salute to Chistine Gregoire. Thanks Chris! nice job.

  51. 73

    proud leftist spews:

    robby @ 63
    Naturally, you missed the point. People of your political ilk are incapable of producing art. I know you don’t think art counts, but the vast majority of human beings like the arts–you know, music, painting, poetry, movies, comedy . . . robby, why don’t you ask Hannah out? Just don’t reach up her dress, I suspect there’s something you won’t like up there.

  52. 74

    YLB spews:

    Real simple logic to that Airbus win.

    They build a production line in Mobile, Alabama.

    Republican pork.

  53. 75

    rob spews:

    RE: 70, actually my family emigrated from Switzerland to Strasburg, France before coming here so it’s not that far off.

  54. 77

    Hannah spews:

    See Rob….the hard left are blinded. They think I’m a man because I refuse to quit questioning things, I have more “balls” than most women, I am not held down and can think for myself.
    since I am interacting with you makes me a troll…lol…paranoid schitz, so paranoid they’d rather push away their own ( well I’m not the far left head up may ass)

  55. 78

    YLB spews:

    the House and the Senate are controlled by democrats.

    And the Executive branch is controlled by the R’s. Ever hear of an “executive decision”.

    Nice try dumbass.

  56. 79

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @50 Personally I’d like to do to you guys what you’d like to do to us, but I guess we’ll have to defend your constitutional right of free speech even though you guys have busted your balls to take ours away.

  57. 81

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @55 You must be on the drugs you think I’m on, because #45 has nothing to do with #52 or vice-versa.

  58. 82

    rob spews:

    RE: 72, you should keep masturbating while you watch Colbert and whoever that other liberal gay guy is scream YES! NO! Cry and pet each other. Intelligent debate is not your strong point. Thanks for trying though.


  59. 83

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @59 Dearie, you forget that Washington is a DEMOCRATIC state, and France has a RIGHTWING leader now, and Alabama (where the plane will be assembled) is a REPUBLICAN RIGHT-TO-WORK state — is this beginning to make sense to you now?

  60. 84

    rob spews:

    RE: 80, Losing a whole day has something to do with your mental state, I was just assuming it was drugs and that you are not a total dumbass. My mistake.

  61. 85

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @60 Roger Rabbit Quiz

    Who is running the Defense Department?

    [ ] 1. Democrats
    [ ] 2. Republicans

    Special help for rob: The correct answer is #2.

  62. 86

    Hannah spews:

    So does anyone think Boeing will appeal the tanker decision?

    And how much of an impact will it really have on our state economy?

  63. 88

    Hannah spews:

    RR Yes it makes sense in that aspect. I am just trying to find who was on the committee that voted to screw an American company.

  64. 89

    rob spews:

    Re: 77, I am sorry YOS LIB BRO, I actually like you but you have no idea how the government works. A quick tutorial for you. The democrat controlled House of Representatives and the democrat controlled senate submits a budget to the President of the United States of American, he can either approve it or veto it. The president does not have a line item veto nor is he able to choose who gets what.

  65. 90

    proud leftist spews:

    robbed-at-birth @ 81
    Hey, buddy, I’m serious, ask Hannah out. (S)he seems to like faux patriots like you. Go for it, man. Neither of you have a clue about anything, so you’ve got a lot in common. That’s always a good place to start. Have fun, buddy, you never know where these online romances might go.

  66. 91

    David spews:

    So Chicago-based Boeing loses the tanker contract because the Republican controlled committee wants to embarrass a candidate for the President and somehow the neo-cons make this into a Democratic party blunder?

    No, this is 100% the soft on security Rethugs.

  67. 92

    rob spews:

    RE: 84, besides the fact you have no idea what day it is, if who was controlling the defense department mattered John Murtha wouldn’t be famous and Patty Murray wouldn’t have built a $4.5 Million dollar boat nobody wanted. Today is Friday Rabbit.

    You are really having some mental problems, hope you get over it.

  68. 93

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @64 “Without the tanker deal our state economy alone is going to suffer a massive setback.”

    Not really. $40 billion over 2 decades is $2 billion a year, which is less than 1% of Washington’s gross state product, and no Boeing workers will lose their jobs. In fact, the loss of this contract could be somewhat offset by using the 767 assembly line to increase production of commercial planes for which there is strong demand and a lengthy backlog. It’s a setback for Boeing, which invested $1 billion in developing its prototype, but it’s not a major blow to the state’s economy.

  69. 94

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @69 Wrong-o, cupcake. You’re being called names because it’s been proved that you’re a liar, a poseur, and a wingnut troll.

  70. 95

    Hannah spews:

    92-THAT is good to know. Most Boeing workers I know, retired and working seem to be making a bigger deal about job loss here locally in regards to the tanker deal. I just know between Boeing and MS, they are both substancial parts of our economy.

  71. 96

    rob spews:

    Re: 90, Bwahhhaaaahaahhah, Republican controlled committee?
    Do liberals even read newspapers?

    Just some light reading for you dumbass, democrats took over that house and senate in 2006. You people are really stupid, not ignorant…stupid! Thanks for playing at 90 though.

  72. 97

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @75 Congress doesn’t award contracts, jackass. The Pentagon procurement office does. Tell us again who appoints the Secretary of Defense?

  73. 98

    Hannah spews:

    93-believe whatever you want, I know who I am. I don’t need you to tell me who I am. I’m a grown girl, I can make my own decisions thank you.

    I will listen to the dems (and reps) on here that are more concerned with talking politics, rather than pointing fingers and making accusations.

  74. 99

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Roger Rabbit Quiz

    Ooooo!!! It’s time for another Roger Rabbit Quiz!! Inspired by rob. Ready? Set? Heeeeere weeeee gooooo!!!

    Who appointed the Secretary of Defense?

    [ ] 1. Darcy Burner
    [ ] 2. Maria Cantwell
    [ ] 3. Patty Murray
    [ ] 4. Christine Gregoire
    [ ] 5. George W. Bush

  75. 101

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Moral: If you want to fuck something up, put Republican white guys in charge of it.

  76. 102

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @87 Hannah, if rob asks you for a date, don’t screw him — the kid might end up with his looks AND his brains.

  77. 105

    proud leftist spews:

    Hey, buddy, ready for some more lessons about punctuation or grammar? Anytime you’re ready, you old homeschooler, you.

  78. 106

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @87 The technical answer to your question is an Air Force procurement committee, but as a practical matter, a contract of this size and importance won’t be awarded without input from the Secretary of the Air Force, the Air Force’s top generals, and probably the Secretary of Defense; and given how nakedly partisan the Bush administration is, it’s likely that the vice president and president were in on this act too, along with their political advisers and maybe even Shrub’s departed but still chummy mentor Rasputin (scratch that) I mean Rove himself.

  79. 107

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @88 “The democrat controlled House of Representatives and the democrat controlled senate submits a budget to the President of the United States of American, he can either approve it or veto it.”

    You’ve got it exactly backwards, dumbass. The president proposes a budget, Congress approves it (not necessarily as submitted), and the president signs or vetoes it.

  80. 108

    rob spews:

    What ever happened to David at 90? You know the one I am talking about. He was the dumbass liberal who believed republicans control committees. He’s a smart one alright, about as smart as Roger Rabbit who is a day late and a dollar short, he has his hand out though for one of your dollars.

  81. 109

    Hannah spews:

    105-Do we know who gave the thumbs up vote on this? Was it voted on by both dems and reps?

  82. 110

    Richard Pope spews:

    Roger Rabbit @ 98

    Shouldn’t you be asking about the Secretary of the Air Force, who was technically responsible for the decision, and not the Secretary of Defense?

    It’s time for a Richard Pope Quiz!! Ready? Set? Heeeeere weeeee gooooo!!!

    Who appointed the Secretary of the Air Force?

    [ ] 1. Darcy Burner
    [ ] 2. Maria Cantwell
    [ ] 3. Patty Murray
    [ ] 4. Christine Gregoire
    [ ] 5. George W. Bush

  83. 111

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @88 (continued) At no point in the federal budget process does Congress ever submit or propose a budget of its own.

  84. 113

    rob spews:

    RE: 106, beside the fact that you are arguing semantics and there has never been a budget that has been submitted by the president to congress that they have approved without changes.

    You have proved my point, your east coast and Californian friends just fucked Washington.

  85. 114

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The Air Force plans to buy 179 tankers over 20 years — an average of less than 1 plane a month. Last year, Boeing produced over 37 planes a month and booked 117 new orders a month, so this contract represented a very small part of Boeing’s overall business.

  86. 115

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @112 It’s not semantics, rob. It’s the basic structure of our government. And. You. Got. It. Wrong.

  87. 116

    rob spews:

    Here is a quiz for Roger Rabbit,

    Who failed to get the Tanker Contract for the State of Washington, you know those idiots we elected to do those kind of things.

    ( ) Christine Gregoire (Democrat)
    ( ) Maria Catwell (Democrat)
    ( ) Patty Murray (Democrat)
    ( ) Jay Inslee (Democrat)
    ( ) Adam Smith (Democrat)
    ( ) Jim McDermott (Democrat)
    ( ) Dave Reichert (Republican)

  88. 118

    rob spews:

    RE: 114, So you are telling me that the Congress of the United States have never submitted a budget to the president and that they only approve his?

    I don’t believe I am wrong here rabbit and considering you have a major problem figuring out what day it is I don’t give you much credit. Sorry.

  89. 119

    rob spews:

    RE: 116, Rabbit, you are a complete idiot. There is no money spent by the government that is not approved by the congress. I really don’t believe you are a dumbass anymore. I truley belive you are a liar.

  90. 121

    Hannah spews:

    I hope they release the names of those who gave the deal to AirBus….It’s no where to be found on the internet.

  91. 122

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @115 None of the above. That’s because senators and representatives, while they can lobby, do not make the decision. The administration does. That would be your buddy chimpface and his highly partisan underlings.

    Predicting this decision should’ve been a gimme, rob. Boeing = Democratic state, union labor. Alabama = Republican right-to-work state.

    I do understand where you’re trying to go with your wingnut “logic” rob — you’re trying to blame the loss of this contract on the voters for electing Democrats to run our state and represent us in Congress. In this, you seem to concede that the Bush administration awards military contracts based on partisan considerations.

    Any reasonable person would blame Bush and his underlings for using that criterion for awarding contracts, and would blame their shills, supporters, and apologists for helping put them in power. But you’re so fucking ass-backwards you don’t see that.

  92. 124

    rob spews:

    Roger Rabbit would like you all to believe that The Pentagon has complete authority to spend 40 Billion Dollars on new airplanes without the approval of the Democrat Controlled Congress.

    Roger Rabbit is a liar.

  93. 126

    proud leftist spews:

    Surely you know that arguing with a Republican like robby is like tacking Jello to the wall. He believes, as he stated above, that he is engaging in “intellectual debate.” Unfortunately, robby can’t tell the difference between an intellectual and an armadillo. Still, “Hannah” seems to like to hear what robby has to say. So, blast away, Rabbit.

  94. 127

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @118 Are you suffering amnesia now, too? You’re the idiot who said Congress submits a budget to the president. I correctly pointed out the president submits a budget to Congress for its approval.

  95. 128

    rob spews:

    RE: 121, you are on drugs, Congress is the only body of the government that can approve spending.

    Ever notice the democrat congress approving funding the war in Iraq retard?

  96. 129

    Richard Pope spews:

    Air Force sez: “The evaluation team comprised experts covering a broad spectrum of specialties from acquisition to operations and was hand-picked from across the Air Force and other government agencies.”

  97. 130

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @119 You really ought to date that guy and bear his children. I doubt that his DNA can fuck up their intelligence any more than your DNA has already fucked it up.

  98. 131

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Remember, the number 0 puts an absolute floor under how low your kids’ IQ might be.

  99. 132

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    It is not biologically possible to have a negative IQ, so your kids will be at least as smart as you two.

  100. 133

    rob spews:

    Jesus rabbit I have lost what little respect I had for you. Congress even approves body armor and K rations. You are trying to say they don’t approve airplanes?

    Someone needs to smash you lying face so that it stays smashed. I will volunteer?

  101. 135

    Richard Pope spews:

    Roger Rabbit @ 129

    Maybe Hannah already has children, or maybe she doesn’t want to have children?

  102. 136

    Sempersimper spews:

    Hannah, you really ARE a stupid fuck, aren’t you? You think you can come in here and jack off with your coworker rob to just clog up this blog with flaming shit that is nothing more than tired old talking points designed to goad us into responding and distract us from meaningful discussion.

    It is transparently obvious that you two silly fuckers are here just to cause trouble. That you think you are so skilled that you can convince us that there is anything authentic about you is evidence of how pathologically stupid you wingnut trolls really are. We’re not as dumb as you think we are; in fact you are dumber than you think WE are.

    Your bullshit style makes me think you are one person. But keep it up ’til you drop from exhaustion; you’ll be really easy to scroll past, and you’ll expend vastly more energy spouting your dreck than anyone here will reading it.

  103. 137

    Richard Pope spews:

    5/7/2007 – WASHINGTON (AFNEWS) — The Air Force source selection evaluation team is poring over industry proposals for the KC-X program, the replacement for the Air Force’s aging KC-135 Stratotanker strategic refueling aircraft.

    The evaluation team, made up of a broad spectrum of acquisition and operational professionals, is currently sequestered at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio, supporting a multi-month effort to carefully dissect and evaluate each proposal submitted in April 2007.

    “I have an Air Force-wide, hand-picked team of more than 150 experts reviewing every aspect of these proposals,” said Terry Kasten, director of the 653rd Aeronautical Systems Squadron at Wright-Patterson AFB.

    “When the dust settles, we’ll have spent many tens of thousands of man-hours scrubbing the content of these proposals, conducting a legal review and preparing summary information for both an independent advisory council assessment and ultimately a source selection authority decision,” Mr. Kasten said. “The depth and breadth of this team is very impressive. Our 13 evaluation team leaders have nearly 200 years of combined acquisition experience.”

  104. 138

    Hannah spews:

    Back to the slander and bashing? Is that how you hard lefties prove your points? I may not be up in the know on politics, hence the reason for asking a million questions (that instead of answers from you, I get name calling immaturity) but at least I’m trying to get the full picture from both sides. Once again, repeating myself, the main problem in America is the party line games. He wants to do, no. Now I want to do it, yes.

  105. 139

    rob spews:

    Hey, liberal rabbit. You are trying to make a point that the pentagon can go out anytime they want and spend $40 Billion on airplanes without the approval of congress and the president.

    Would you like to defend that position with some facts or just admit that you are a lying dumbass?

  106. 140

    Richard Pope spews:

    In spite of all the “committee” talk, I personally think that the Secretary of the Air Force had the legal responsibility for actually making the decision.

  107. 141

    Hannah spews:

    simper—-I think you yourself post under other names. And no I’m not Rob, nor have I once agreed with him….ugh idiots everyone.

  108. 142

    Sempersimper spews:

    rob @ 132

    Everybody here knows you haven’t the balls to blow your own nose, but keep up the threats, you pathetic adolescent.

  109. 144

    Sempersimper spews:

    140 hannah

    This is my only name, and you’re parroting puddy, which is a damn poor source. But keep sucking his dick since you seem to be able to find it.

  110. 147

    Hannah spews:

    We all know Bush pushed telecom wiretaps with no authority from congress, senate and so forth…so its easy to assume, this tanker deal was done in the same sort of fashion.

  111. 148

    Richard Pope spews:

    I think it all boils down to a political decision. The Republicans wanted it built in Alabama, since they have a lot of strength in that state.

  112. 149

    Sempersimper spews:

    If you DO have a nephew it’s appropriate for you be sorry for him. It must be disabling to have such a sorry person in his family.

  113. 151

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @122 Actually, Richard, they make a plausible argument in favor of the Northrup-Airbus design:

    “The KC-45A will provide significantly greater air refueling capabilities than the … KC-135 Stratotankers it will begin replacing. For example, it will be able to refuel … aircraft [with] different systems for receiving fuel … [and] will have … wing pods [that] … can refuel two … aircraft … at the same time. … It [also can carry] … cargo, passengers and medical patients ….

    “The [Air Force] … select[ed] a winner based on five factors: mission capability, proposal risk, past performance, cost/price and an integrated fleet air refueling assessment — performance in a simulated war scenario. …

    “The evaluation team comprised experts covering a broad spectrum of specialties from acquisition to operations and was hand-picked from across the Air Force and other government agencies.”

    The N/A plane also is larger and can carry more fuel. The Boeing design lacks its capability of carrying equipment, supplies, passengers, and/or medical evacuees in addition to fuel — thus, the N/A design is more versatile.

  114. 152

    Hannah spews:

    Simper, keep it up. Words are just that, you wanna be a grown up and debate politics, so be it. But acting like a child will get you no respect from anyone that matters.

  115. 153

    Sempersimper spews:

    rob, you have exactly the threat style of Politically Incoherent when he’s in his more psychotic phase. Do you seriously think I believe for one minute that you’d show up?

    What a loser.

  116. 154

    rob spews:

    Re: 143, now you are picking on women? Let’s get together tonight?

    Roger Rabbit already retreated which is what liberals do.

    You seem to believe you are tough though, let’s find out?

  117. 155

    Richard Pope spews:

    I wonder what the real estate market is going to do in Mobile, Alabama? How many workers did they say they were going to hire? The existing population of the Mobile metro area is only 540,258 (which includes Mobile & Baldwin Counties in Alabama). If you add Jackson County, Mississippi (Pascagoula), you are still at only about 670,000 people.

  118. 156

    Sempersimper spews:

    there’s no debating anything with somebody like you, and why would I give a shit what anybody YOU think matters thinks?

  119. 158

    Hannah spews:

    150 – so bottom line the better team got the contract. Well, that’s the way it should be! I am biased to Boeing just based off the economics they bring to us here, but hey if they were proposing something, smaller, less fuel carrying, lack of design..then Airbus should get it. Makes perfect sense to me.

  120. 159

    Hannah spews:

    153 – Rob, Simper is convinced I’m really a man cuz I have “balls” and question my democratic loyalty at times.

  121. 160

    Sempersimper spews:

    robby, boy, go back to jacking off on your keyboard, there’s no way you’d ever show up anywhere, and everybody here knows that.

    It’s way past your bedtime, honey. Get some milk and take your teddy to bed. we’ll see you in the morning.

  122. 161

    Richard Pope spews:

    Roger Rabbit @ 150

    Why in the hell do you want to carry passengers and cargo in addition to fuel? You either configure the plane to carry fuel out to your planes in the air (and return to base afterward), or to carry passenger/cargo to a destination, but not both at the same time! Are you going to have tanks for aviation fuel that can be aired out, and then slap some portable seats inside to carry passengers?

  123. 162

    rob spews:

    RE: 155, where are you asshole? I am in kirkland. You are a pristine example of a liberal coward. You can even talk tough to women. Want to meet?

  124. 165

    Sempersimper spews:


    I wasn’t aware that you were a woman, and you just don’t get it.

    Nobody on this blog would believe for a minute that you’d make good on your adolescent threat, because people like you are all mouth/keyboard, and if anybody were silly enough to arrange a meeting you’d be home giggling hysterically about how you put one over on them and wasted their time.

    You just continually demonstrate how much of a loser you really are.

  125. 166

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @138 Where did I say that? Unfortunately, your understanding of government process is so sophomoric that you not only twist my words, you don’t grasp basic concepts.

    I will make one more stab at trying to explain this to an incorrigible moron:

    The executive branch submits budgets, makes procurement decisions, awards contracts, etc. Congress’s role is limited to appropriating money and public hearings.

    Sure, Congress could refuse to appropriate the funding for the contract, thereby killing the deal. But they can’t, under any circumstances, award the contract or choose the winning bidder themselves. And, as a practical matter, they really don’t have any incentive to defund the program. The current tanker fleet dates from the 1950s, and apart from the fact they’re no longer mission-adequate, at some point the wings are going to fall off those old planes. Congress really doesn’t have any choice about approving this appropriation.

    Do you get it now, dumbass? No, of course you don’t, and you never will.

  126. 167

    rob spews:

    Roger Rabbit lost the debate and retreated like a good democrat and now goldy sends in Sempersimper who refuses to back up his little liberal whimpers. I am going to spend some time putting chimp faces on Borak Hussein Obama with photo shop but I will keep an eye on this blog in case Sempersimper’s mom will loan him the car keys.

  127. 168

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @140 “And no I’m not Rob, nor have I once agreed with him….”

    Maybe not in a conscious overt way, but your views on (non)separation of church and state are indistinguishable from his — and on that subject, you are both wrong, both legally (in constitutional terms) and philosophically (ref.: centuries of European religious warfare caused by some people trying to force their religion on others).

  128. 170

    Sempersimper spews:

    Shit, Roger, we done been feedin’ the trolls agin, and they think they got them a home.

  129. 171

    rob spews:

    RE: 165, Right here libtard:

    Roger Rabbit says:

    @115 None of the above. That’s because senators and representatives, while they can lobby, do not make the decision. The administration does. That would be your buddy chimpface and his highly partisan underlings.

  130. 172

    Sempersimper spews:

    Hannah says:

    153 – “Rob, Simper is convinced I’m really a man cuz I have “balls” and question my democratic loyalty at times.”

    I’m far from convinced you’re a real person, much less a man, and what you ought to questioning is your psychiatrist. You’re clearly being cheated.

  131. 173

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @132 “Jesus rabbit I have lost what little respect I had for you. Congress even approves body armor and K rations. You are trying to say they don’t approve airplanes?”

    That’s exactly what I’m saying. The Marine Corps is now embroiled in a major scandal over their failure to purchase body army and armored vehicles for their troops, regarding which you will soon be hearing about congressional hearings. If they decided not to feed their troops, Congress couldn’t make them. THE ONLY THING CONGRESS HAS AUTHORITY TO DO IS APPROPRIATE MONEY. They can’t make federal departments or agencies submit spending requests, approve programs, or pick a particular contractor. If the Marines don’t want to buy armor, it won’t get bought, no matter how much Congress wants to buy it. Comprende? No, you don’t, you’re too fucking stupid to handle even simple concepts and you obviously never took a civics course in school.

    “Someone needs to smash you lying face so that it stays smashed. I will volunteer?”

    My previous offer still stands. Let me know when you’re coming. However, be advised that I’ve been ill recently, am still recuperating, and probably will not be able to attend DL for several more weeks. Let’s say anytime after April 1. Just let me know when you’re coming.

  132. 174

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @134 How would I know? The only thing I know for sure about Hannah is that she’s a liar and a wingnut troll.

  133. 175

    rob spews:

    RE: 168, Look asswhipe, I am willing to meet you tonight or tomorrow, your claim that anyone on this thread would say I wouldn’t is false.

    Is there any libtard on here tonight that can state I didn’t show up? Didn’t think so

    There are alot of liberal cowards here tonight though that are cowards.

    Semperpussy, do you know of anyone to back up you cowardly claims?

  134. 176

    Hannah spews:

    167-I have views all over the map. Some more than others. The guy talking about war on xmas hit a nerve, yes I know constitutional terams say I’m wrong, but sorry those are my feelings. I never claimed to be the ONLY opinion that matters. I read others opinions on the same matter, some agreeing some disagreeing. Even my staunch Democratic Uncle agrees regarding the holidays. Does that make him a troll?

  135. 177

    proud leftist spews:

    robby and Hannah–that’s all the trolls we get tonight? Shit, even Puddy is better than those two.

  136. 178

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @135 “you’ll be really easy to scroll past”

    I’m getting to that point with her (him?) myself very quickly.

  137. 180

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @145 We don’t have to guess at what you would do if someone took you up on that, because I offered to meet you some time again and you didn’t like the location.

  138. 183

    Sempersimper spews:

    rob….honey….you’re getting more than a little redundant.
    Your ability to pitch a hissy fit falls far short of increasing your credibility, which wasn’t impressive to start with.

    Yelling that you really would show up and that you’re really brave and manly and capable felling giants with your shoelaces doesn’t convince anybody I know that your any less full of shit.

    And this is getting really boring.

  139. 184

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @153 “Roger Rabbit already retreated which is what liberals do.”

    Only in your dreams, partner. My original offer still stands.

  140. 185

    rob spews:

    RE: 172, Roger, you are a dumbass. I’m sorry but there is no cure for it.

    Roger Rabbit Says:
    They can’t make federal departments or agencies submit spending requests, approve programs, or pick a particular contractor. If the Marines don’t want to buy armor, it won’t get bought, no matter how much Congress wants to buy it. Comprende? No, you don’t, you’re too fucking stupid to handle even simple concepts and you obviously never took a civics course in school.

    Read this article if you are able.

    $4.5 million for a boat that nobody wanted


    I am truly sorry Rabbit that you are either a lier or a retard but I don’t believe the above article will support your inane liberal rambling.

  141. 186

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I had this happen once before. A wingnut calling himself “prr” called me out. I told him where I’d be and he responded, “I’ll be there!” When I got there, I asked every male in the building if he was “prr,” but nooooo prr. Then later that same night he was stupid enough to post a comment claiming he showed up. Unfortunately for him, I had anticipated that and had lined up witnesses to the fact he wasn’t. You know where to find me, rob. Just let me know when you’re coming.

  142. 188

    rob spews:

    Re: 185, I have no idea where to find you. I am in kirkland come on by and I will introduce myself. Hell rabbit let’s do it tonight?

  143. 189

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @157 That’s your conclusion, not mine. I quoted the official explanation from the Air Force web site and commented that they “made a plausible argument.” That’s not the same thing as agreeing with them.

  144. 192

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @160 “Why in the hell do you want to carry passengers and cargo in addition to fuel?”

    Oh c’mon, Richard. If the planes are flying fuel into a combat zone, doesn’t it make sense to use them to ferry wounded troops out of the combat zone? Not on every mission, of course, but surely you can visualize scenarios in which that capability might be nice to have.

  145. 193

    Richard Pope spews:

    I am still leaning toward the possibility that Hannah is a real person with the sort of characteristics that she is claiming for herself.

  146. 194

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @160 (continued) Another reason why you might want passenger-carrying capability is because, if you have to land in a hostile area, you might want a squad of infantrymen aboard to guard the plane while it’s on the ground.

  147. 196

    Richard Pope spews:

    Roger Rabbit @ 191

    Okay, I realized that it would be possible to carry both. You certainly can’t fill every cubic meter of the interior with aviation fuel, or the plane would be way too heavy.

  148. 197

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @160 (continued) Or, you might need to ferry a contingent of technicians to assemble, repair, or operate ground-based fuel handling equipment.

  149. 198

    Richard Pope spews:

    And also that you may want to use the plane to transport fuel to a distant base, so it might make sense to have some ability to carry some people and cargo at the same time.

  150. 200

    rob spews:

    re: 192, why would you doubt she is a real person, because semperpussy was giving her a hard time? Semperpussy is a keyboard tough guy, nothing intelligent to say, no debate and to scared to meet.

    I would rather walk down a street with Hannah than semperpussy.

  151. 202

    Richard Pope spews:

    Roger Rabbit @ 196

    Or you may want to transport a whole bunch of fertile rabbits (ideal ratio: 10 females to 1 male) to reproduce and ruin the environment of a hostile country.

  152. 205

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @174 You declined to meet me. I told you where and when to find me, and right here on this board, you said you weren’t coming. Most folks would consider that a no-show.

  153. 206

    proud leftist spews:

    Meeting someone like rob is, of course, pointless. He is not a thinker. Nor was prr. I have met one of the rightwingers who posts here and would now consider him someone I’d like to continue to correspond with, if not a friend. As a good liberal, I like to hear the other side. And, besides that, I’m a lover–you know, as a leftist, and all. And, of course, everyone else can bite my ass.

  154. 207

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @175 You’ve been listening to waaaay too much wingnut horseshit, Hannah. Nobody is taking your Christmas away. Nothing is stopping you from walking into SeaTac Airport or the King County Courthouse and shouting at the top of your lungs, “Merry Christmas, everyone!” The Constitution puts no restraint whatsoever on your observance or celebration of Christmas, or anyone else’s. The only entity it restrains is the government. The Constitution prohibits the government from establishing a religion, prohibiting religion, interfering with religion, or giving preferential treatment to one religion over others. No more, no less.

    People who want the government to display religious symbols on public property, or require prayer in public schools, are trying to use the power of government to impose their religion on people who don’t necessarily want it. Thank God that’s not allowed in our country. Europeans fought countless wars for exactly that reason, and the Founding Fathers did not want their history to become our history, too. They knew what they were doing.

  155. 210

    rob spews:

    RE: 204, You are a fucking lier, prove it. I will meet you tonight though so tell me where and when. And right now asshole. The only person I declined to meet on this board was Darryl who wanted to meet me with his posse at drinking liberally. I told him I would meet him at the Beach Cafe instead and he declined.

    You liberals are such lying pricks. I guess that makes you look good to each other.

    Tonight asshole, when and where?

  156. 211

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @186 I occasionally attend Drinking Liberally at Montlake Ale House in Seattle. However, I’m not a regular attendee, so you’ll have to let me know when you’re coming. You can post that on this board, and I’ll respond about whether I can make it on that day or not. As I stated above, I’m currently recuperating from an illness and will not be going to DL any time before April 1 at the earliest.

  157. 213

    Mike in Pioneer Square spews:

    RE: 4 by JackM

    Are you really so stupid that you think “homeless” people can’t get voice mail RIGHT NOW in Seattle? All you have to do is call Laser Voice Mail! This is something they tell people at WorkSource and various aid agencies around town. I had it and used it myself for many months. The idea that free voice mail is going to help our “homeless” (a.k.a. vagrants) is ridiculous.

    There is so much false information being distributed about “homelessness”, low-income housing, and the resources available for people who are down on their luck that it’s absolutely absurd.

    There are multiple aid agencies out there who will help almost anyone with a MULTITUDE of services, from housing, to food, jobs, education or career training, and even treatment for alcoholism and drug addiction. Don’t lie and say that help isn’t available. It’s there.

    I know because I’ve seen many of these agencies first hand. “Homelessness” is a false problem that we shouldn’t even have. Your stupidity about the voice mail, Jack, perfectly illustrates how ignorant Seattle residents are about this issue.

  158. 214

    rob spews:

    RE: 207, I guess not Rejax, (who the fuck named you that?) I will never be able to post prose like you just did. Bwahhahhhahhha

  159. 218

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @192 We’ve hashed through all this, Richard. Her story isn’t plausible. I’m disappointed that you, a lawyer, would actually believe such a fairytale.

  160. 220

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @195 The Northrup/Airbus design is actually quite clever in this respect. The basic fuel load is in the wings. However, they can carry additional fuel in underbelly tanks located (like the cargo bay in a passenger jet) in the portion of the fuselage not usable by passengers or bulk cargo. In addition, because this 2-engine plane will use the wings of a 4-engine model, the wings come with 2 extra engine mounts that can be used as hard points to suspend underwing tanks from. It is this feature that will allow the plane to refuel two Navy or Marine fighters at the same time, a capability the Boeing design didn’t offer.

  161. 223

    Richard Pope spews:

    Roger Rabbit @ 217

    Hannah could be the Bill Clinton version of a fairy tale. Remember the fairy tale called Barack Obama?

  162. 224

    proud leftist spews:

    Hannah, honey,
    Where would you like to meet? I have plenty of flexibility. Tell me, Sweetpea, and let us verify your gender. You can even bring a bodyguard (rob, unless you be one and the same) with you. Kitsap, Pierce, King, Snohomish–in which county would you like to encounter a true liberal?

  163. 225

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @203 Your short memory isn’t my problem. I have no intention of digging through dozens of threads and thousands of comments to find it. Do that yourself, if you’re interested.

  164. 226

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @205 Whenever I meet a stranger, I consider him a potential friend until he proves he’s an enemy. Some of my best friends are Republicans, and we don’t agree on much of anything else either. I’ve never said what I would do if I met rob in person, but you (and he) can safely assume that I won’t do anything that would get me (a) in trouble with the law or (b) sued. What he does, is up to him. I’m not actually a 30-lb. rabbit, I’m really a 230-lb. guy. That might help him decide (a) whether he wants to meet me, and (b) what he wants to do if he does.

  165. 228

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @218 Sympathy has nothing to do with it. I’m giving you information — I just told you (again) where and when to find me.

  166. 229

    Richard Pope spews:

    Proud Leftist @ 223

    Maybe you can settle for Hannah becoming a friend for your MySpace page.

  167. 231

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @222 Hmmm. I expressed my views about Obama. But the world doesn’t listen to me, Richard. It appears he’s going to be our nominee — mine and ours, too, as you’re a Democrat now. If he is, that’s what I’ll run with. Anyway, there’s a place in this world for dreamers … Martin Luther King Jr., for example. Now there’s a guy who had really big dreams, but where would we be if he hadn’t reached that high?

  168. 233

    proud leftist spews:

    As a fellow member of the bar, if you feel like it, give Goldy your contact information to me. I know that rabbits in their death throes ain’t pretty, but nonetheless, I wouldn’t mind exchanging a word in person.

  169. 234

    proud leftist spews:

    Richard @ 228
    I’ve asked my son to set up a MySpace page for me. I’m incapable of doing so myself, and he seems to have other things to do. Such is life.

  170. 236

    PuddyPrick, The Fact Finding Prognosticator... spews:


    You don’t have to answer

    harry poon
    Irv Kupicet
    little lord fauntleroy
    piper loves ______
    puddy loves ______


    THEY ARE ALL HEADLESS LUCY NAMES , you know the HorsesASS resident racist 24/7

  171. 237

    PuddyPrick, The Fact Finding Prognosticator... spews:


    creighton baril
    crate n’barrel to the headless lucy all time name list.

    headless has lost it use each one of them.

    Of course Darryl will never come clean.

  172. 238

    PuddyPrick, The Fact Finding Prognosticator... spews:

    Rob the person who masquerades under all those silly monikers above likes the Bellevue Square Cheesecake Factory. He claims to know some manager there and has threatened to “pummel me”. I asked why there. Let’s get some police and they can referee the bout. I know a captain who would get some off duty buds. I sure Sheriff John Lovick could call some of his state trooper friends. I have some DSP buds stationed in Tacoma.

    Now GBS said I am kind of large but to fear PacMan more. Well that kind of dried up headless and his many names taunting me to meet him.

    I made a counter offer. I’d meet headless lucy down in the Rainier Valley so he could be around people he loathes 24/7. I suggested MLK and Othello or Rainier Ave anywhere. I wanted the bros to see this. Sensei taught never throw the first blow, but when the time comes “kick his butt”.

  173. 240

    rhp6033 spews:

    RR @ 150 (I think): Actually, you are misreading the Air Force press release. The Air force wasn’t comparing the two competing proposals, they were comparing the new plane with the old one. Both Boeing and Airbus proposals met these requirements, presumably one more than the other, in varying degrees & respects.

    What I find interesting is the Air Force Press Release makes no mention at all of Airbus oor EADS.

  174. 241

    rhp6033 spews:

    Roger & 219: Okay, I just read this post – it is interesting if that is what got them over the edge.

  175. 242

    ByeByeGOP spews:

    Well more bad news for the GOP…

    1) They have HA Rob – the coward who won’t show up as their defender
    2) The Catholics are mad at Johnboy McCain for having a Catholic basher endorse him – took the wind right out of the GOP’s sails against Obama
    3) Another – that’s right ANOTHER Bush regime employee quit this week in disgrace after getting caught cheating

  176. 243

    slingshot spews:

    {“Homelessness” is a false problem that we shouldn’t even have.}

    You could make this statement about any problem you have, but don’t want to have. For instance: “Teenage pregnancy” is a false problem that we shouldn’t even have.
    Of course, we’d all agree that we have teenage pregnancy, and it is a problem. Are you saying that since the people who are indeed homeless have chosen to be, in the face of a plethora of programs to keep them from being, it’s not a real problem? The shitty choices made by humans are the basis for a boatload of problems free societies face. Just bracketing a problem with quotation marks doesn’t eliminate it.

  177. 244

    GBS spews:

    @ 237:

    Never throw the first punch? Really??

    That’s why you should’ve learned from a Shifu. If you get to Central California way, Stockton or Lodi fo rsue. Check out Al Moore’s Sho Shu. I think Da Shifu Moore has passed on but youi can stilllearnteh best art in the world.

  178. 246

    Daddy Love spews:

    166 rob

    I am going to spend some time putting chimp faces on Borak Hussein Obama with photo shop

    Ah, just another Republican racist. Being Republican is a false problem, when there is so much help out there to realize the truth about yourself.

  179. 247

    Daddy Love spews:

    Wow, rob, I apologize. I read this thread from the bottom up, and if I had seen your “It’s cold outside, therefore global warming does not exist” post, I never would have bothered with such an obvious moron. Again, excuse me.

  180. 248

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Oba-Morons say:

    “He walks into a room and you want to follow him somewhere, anywhere.”
    -actor George Clooney

    “I’ll do whatever he says to do. I’ll collect paper cups off the ground to
    make his pathway clear.” -actress Halle Berry

    “This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and
    be made better. This young man is capturing audiences of black and brown and
    red and yellow. If you look at Barack Obama’s audiences and look at the
    effect of his words, those people are being transformed… A black man with
    a white mother became a savior to us. A black man with a white mother could
    turn out to be one who can lift America from her fall.” -Nation of Islam
    leader Louis Farrakhan

    Race bait: “Racial justice is the key for the salvation of the nation and
    that is fair game to discuss; it is a fair message. Blacks reaching out is
    not new; white receptivity is new. Barack is reaching out.” -Jesse Jackson

  181. 249

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    I told y’all Microsoft and Boeing wanted huge Washington State Tax concessions. Boeing tried to get theirs before the bad news came out. And Microsoft/Yahoo was busted in the Tmes.

  182. 250

    slingshot spews:

    The tanker deal must have been a Design/Build/Engineer proposal based on Air Force specifications, no? So Boeing got out-engineered by Northrup Grumman. Perhaps the ire is malfocused. I hear there are bands of Lazy B employees with shovels and pitchforks marauding in the streets of Everett smashing bottles of French wine and tossing smelly cheese in the bay. Dope on Airbus:

  183. 251

    Rujax! spews:

    Really now…

    Can’t the wsrp send us a new et of trolls? I was sick of these morons months ago.

    Maybe they can outsource the job to some foriegn country.

  184. 254

    Sempersimper spews:

    @235 Puddy

    In my case, at least, you have know that’s total bullshit unless, of course, you’re such a dumb shit you can’t comprehend language usage.

    Uhm, well, then again…

    But keep rolling it out, it matches the rest of your effluvia, and when you’re as desperate for attention as you are, it makes for filler material between your other stupid comments.

    I used to think you were merely a jerk, but I now realize your shriek and run techniques display not only a total inability for rational discourse, but also the total incomprehension that everybody sees you for what you are.

  185. 255

    Richard Pope spews:

    Maybe the cafeteria in the state capitol can start selling freedom fries to protest this Airbus contract?

  186. 256

    Sempersimper spews:


    But, doesn’t the argument that the AF changed the specs at the last minute to match the Airbus model make some sense? That will (should) come out at the hearings, if true. But even though it be the case, it probably wouldn’t change the outcome. It might be a blot on the integrity process of the Pentagon/Administration…if either had any integrity left.

  187. 257

    ArtFart spews:

    Jimmy Carter: 52 American diplomats held hostage in Iran.

    George W. Bush: 150,000+ American soldiers held hostage in Iraq.

    Who’s the “failure”?

  188. 258

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @248 The only thing worse than corporate welfare run amok is the politicians who pander to it.

  189. 259

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    #256 ArtFart says:

    Jimmy Carter: 52 American diplomats held hostage in Iran.
    George W. Bush: 150,000+ American soldiers held hostage in Iraq.

    The 52 american diplomats were held against their will.
    The 150,000+ troops volunteered to be in iraq.
    If you can’t understand the difference that explains your allegiance to the democrats.

  190. 260

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @255 Yeah, they did, and maybe because when they saw the Airbus proposal they realized the Frogs had a better plane, but it’s hard to knock this decision when you compare the two planes side-by-side.

  191. 261

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @258 “The 150,000+ troops volunteered to be in iraq.”

    Not exactly. They volunteered for military service, many because of the benefits it offers, but they were ordered to Iraq and not a few of them are quitting the service — and some are even deserting — because of the repeated and prolonged deployments. Obviously, this war isn’t what they signed up for.

  192. 262

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Under the KGB-like Bushevik regime, denouncing the war is a more serious offense than deserting. Among the thousands of deserters every year, the only ones who have been court-martialed are those who called press conferences to denounce the war.

  193. 263

    slingshot spews:

    “Clearly the U.S. Air Force conducted a thorough and transparent competition in choosing their new tanker, which resulted in selection of the aircraft that best meets their current and future requirements,” said Gary Ervin, corporate vice president and president of Northrop Grumman’s Integrated Systems sector. “By selecting the most capable and modern aircraft, the Air Force has embraced a system that provides a best-value solution to our armed forces and our nation.”

    The KC-45A Tanker aircraft will be assembled at new, state-of-the-art manufacturing facilities in Mobile, Ala., and will employ 25,000 workers at 230 U.S. companies. The KC-45A’s refueling systems will be built at new facilities in Bridgeport, W.Va., and delivered to the KC-45A Production Center for aircraft integration.

    The KC-45A will be built by a world-class industrial team led by Northrop Grumman, and includes primary subcontractor EADS North America and General Electric Aviation, Sargent Fletcher, Honeywell, Parker, AAR Cargo Systems, Telephonics and Knight Aerospace.

    Northrop Grumman Corporation is a $32 billion global defense and technology company whose 120,000 employees provide innovative systems, products, and solutions in information and services, electronics, aerospace and shipbuilding to government and commercial customers worldwide.

  194. 264

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    #260 Roger Rabbit says:

    @258 “The 150,000+ troops volunteered to be in iraq.”
    Not exactly. They volunteered for military service, many because of the benefits it offers, but they were ordered to Iraq and not a few of them are quitting the service — and some are even deserting — because of the repeated and prolonged deployments. Obviously, this war isn’t what they signed up for.

    You’ve been in the service, how many years is the first enlistment?
    When did the war start?
    I’m sure you see where I’m going. They knew there was a war when they signed up. Unfortunately for them it wasn’t the same as playing the latest combat game on his x-box.

  195. 265

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    #261 Roger Rabbit says:

    Among the thousands of deserters every year, the only ones who have been court-martialed are those who called press conferences to denounce the war.

    Again, proof of government incompetence.
    The only wanted criminals they are able to catch are the ones that hold press conferences at a certain time & date.

  196. 266

    Reformed republican spews:

    @263 Marvin Idiot – the people I know who signed up for military service in 2001 – signed up to fight al Qaeda – not to occupy Iraq.

    Next – the people who signed up after figured the war in Iraq would be over soon – ’cause McCain and the other idiot republicans told them so.

    Meantime – they were hitched.

    4,000 dead
    30,000 injured

    3-500,000 Iraqis dead
    Over 1 million refugees

    Tremendous success?
    Oh – if the surge is working so well – why can’t the Iraqis handle their own nation-building? Why can’t we withdraw our troops – becuase the house of cards will fall down and we have made no political progress – remember, Patreus said that military progress was just to give window for political progress – and there has been – NONE. Time to get out instead of spending 3 billion/day while the economy goes down the drain.

    why is bin Laden regrouping? why does our president say bin Laden is not important? Are Amercian lives so cheap Bush can’t even go after the people who attacked our country?