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  1. 1

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The revenue benefits of legalizing marijuana are minor. Projected revenues of $22 million amount to less than 1/1200th of the state’s revenue needs. The real story is on the spending side — enforcing the laws against marijuana are a huge drain on public resources. The question we should be asking is, Is it worth it?

    I don’t know the answer to that. I’m not a medical expert. I haven’t studied the issue in depth. My personal experience with marijuana is slight; I’m not a user. But logic argues that unless it’s a very deleterious substance with a very destructive impact on society, suppressing it isn’t worth the resources we’re pouring into that effort.

    But logic has nothing to do with it. The Right is implacably opposed to legalizing MJ, and their opposition has nothing to do with medical arguments, MJ’s impact on society, or facts or rationality. It’s a visceral knee-jerk reaction against “those dirty hippies” who protested the war in Vietnam. That’s what this is really all about.

  2. 2

    Emmanuel Goldstein spews:

    Mr. Rabbit,

    As usual I agree with you. I think most everything that is happening in society now can be traced to loving the hippies or hating the hippies. Just ask someone from back then, the polarization still exists.

    I found this beautiful hippie chick and we’ve been making love not war ever since. Hope it never ends.

  3. 3

    Lee spews:

    You’re right. The vast majority of the economic benefit would come from what we wouldn’t need to spend any more from a law enforcement and criminal justice perspective.

  4. 6

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @2 “I think most everything that is happening in society now can be traced to loving the hippies or hating the hippies.”

    Have you ever wondered what happened to the hippies? A great many of them are rightwingers now, and some of today’s most vocal wingers are ex-hippies. So, their hatred of the hippies is really a hatred of themselves, and the drama you’re seeing acted out on the national political stage is a weird self-loathing psychosis. Too bad Freud isn’t here to enjoy this; he’d have a field day with it. He saw sexual undercurrents in all behavior, so he’d say “free love” caused all this, because it turned out to be neither “love” nor “free.”

  5. 7

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @5 Because they decided making money was even better than making love, and turned into the same gold-grubbing Republican assholes their fathers were.

  6. 8

    ArtFart spews:

    Here’s a sentiment some of us might share:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6hy4PBo4tE

    Of course, he’s wrong…the small banks are struggling as well, some of ‘em because they were dumb enough to play in derivatives and write liar loans like the big guys, and others because the Wall Street assassins dinged them for not doing that.

  7. 9

    spyder spews:

    The US currently has 1 in every one hundred of its citizens incarcerated (vastly more than any other country in the world). A vast majority of those in prison are there for drug-related charges. California is paying $69/day to private contractors for prisons, since that state well exceeds its occupancy limits. Michigan wanted some of CA’s prisoners for its state prison, but wanted $89/day and couldn’t get CA to pay that.

    If we have roughly 3 million citizens in prison at any one time, and they cost (on average) $50/day, we can safely assume we spend $150 million each day on incarceration. Essentially, the tax revenue from legalization would pay for a whopping 6 days out of each year. We need to stop being the world’s greatest lock-em-up for everything society.

  8. 10

    jensen201 spews:

    @9. spyder

    You do the crime, you do the time***..

    *** disclaimer, not applicable to Republican white male trash from gutter states such as Texas, S. Carolina, Tennessee and Mississippi.

  9. 12

    Puddybud Remembers Progressives Forget spews:

    Roger Dumb Bunny cracks another factless funny

    Have you ever wondered what happened to the hippies? A great many of them are rightwingers now, and some of today’s most vocal wingers are ex-hippies.

    Got Proof? Oh wait for it… another “this is how it works” diatribe…

    Foolish Dumb Bunny, hippies were anti-establishment, make love not war (anti-war), long haired, drug imbibing, free-loving peeps. Those are very progressive liberal positions. Most Dummocrapts are against the proposed Afghanistan buildup. That’s a progressive liberal position. Nancy Pelosi is of that ilk. She from San Francisco Dumb Bunny. San Francisco banned JROTC of all things Roger Dumb Bunny. If Gallup polled them you’d find they were 1960s hippies Dumb Bunny. Sounds like the big progressive Dummocraptic tent types of the new millenium.

    Of course Roger Dumb Bunny skips over the Hippies who led the charge in the ACLU to have JROTC banned in high schools. Butt poor Dumb Bunny can’t rewrite history because federal law enstates JROTC into all high schools that are federally funded, and no local laws can override the federal laws. Isn’t that the same problem ex-mayor Greg 2 Nickels had with his “gun bans”? You can review JROTC in the 1995 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), the 1996 NDAA, and the Wee Willy Clinton approved 1997 Omnibus Consolidated Appropriations Act (OCAA).

    Some hippies still live in Berkeley & San Francisco CA, Boulder CO, and Eugene, OR to name a few places run by Dummocrapts. If they could have put tracking chips into the 1969 Woodstock generation, you’d probably see some of those types begat the HA Libtardos of today.

    Look at places where ROTC is banned and you’ll find progressives er… grown up Hippies in the government or academia. Some of these bans are over 30 years old, a few 40 years old. Hippies who became professors at Columbia, Harvard, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, University of Chicago, Wellesley, Tufts, Gordon, Endicott, Salem State, Yale, City University of NY all banned ROTC. Retired General Colin Powell was a CUNY product and was an ROTC graduate. He’s still a great man irrespective of what ylb arschloch calls him. The program is gone at CUNY

    Remember when Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm “called” for the Columbia University ban to be removed in 2008

    “I recognize that there are students here who have differences in terms of military policy, but the notion that young people here at Columbia or anywhere, in any university, aren’t offered the choice, the option of participating in military service, I think is a mistake.” Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm

    Columbia president Lee Bottinger said no!

    Puddy would ask Roger Dumb Bunny to read this but it would explode his poorly postulated putrid positions. My three nephews went through negative student academic issues when they were identified with Gulf and Iraq War experiences. All three now have advanced degrees. Why? Hippies man… Hippies.

  10. 13

    Puddybud Remembers Progressives Forget spews:

    Where is correctnotright and his side-kick Daddy Love on Climategate?

    George Monbiot wants to know you two. Sounds of Silence.

    Hey Chris Stefan, another of those whack-job CZARS with no Congressional oversight… this one is involved in the ClimateGate scandal not being covered by the libtardo MSM…

    “Obama Science Czar John Holdren is directly involved in CRU’s unfolding Climategate scandal. In fact, according to files released by a CEU hacker or whistleblower, Holdren is involved in what Canada Free Press (CFP) columnist Canadian climatologist Dr. Tim Ball terms “a truculent and nasty manner that provides a brief demonstration of his lack of understanding, commitment on faith and willingness to ridicule and bully people”.”

    “I append here an e-mail correspondence I have engaged in over the past few days trying to educate a Soon/Baliunas supporter who originally wrote to me asking how I could think that Soon and Baliunas are wrong and Mann et al. are right (a view attributed to me, correctly, in the Harvard Crimson). This individual apparently runs a web site on which he had been touting the Soon/Baliunas position.”

    Now we know Michael Mann of PSU is the “hockey stick” man. We now know hockey stick data massaging happened right correctnotright?

    We know the NY Times won’t print the emails but would tell the world about overseas terrorist telephone tracking, overseas bank tracking of terrorist funding, etc. when they thought it would hurt GWBush. How libtardo trendy the NY Times is and they continue to lose readership and are laying off 100 more peeps next month.

    Where is that ever mouthy “Peer Reviewed” correctnotright and that ever “effusive” Daddy Love on this issue?

  11. 14

    Puddybud Remembers Progressives Forget spews:

    Hey correctnotright, what do you think about this on ClimateGate?

    What has been noticeably absent so far in the ClimateGate discussion [by correctnotright, Daddy Love and other HA Libtardos] is a public reaffirmation by climate researchers of our basic research values: the rigors of the scientific method (including reproducibility), research integrity and ethics, open minds, and critical thinking. Under no circumstances should we ever sacrifice any of these values; the CRU emails, however, appear to violate them.

    Why are you quiet correctnotright? Is “Peer Reviewed” a sham?

  12. 15

    Puddybud Remembers Progressives Forget spews:

    Correctnotright, what about Mike Hulme?

    This will blow its course soon in the conventional media without making too much difference to Copenhagen — after all, COP15 is about raw politics, not about the politics of science. But in the Internet worlds of deliberation and in the ‘mood’ of public debate about the trustworthiness of climate science, the reverberations of this episode will live on long beyond COP15. Climate scientists will have to work harder to earn the warranted trust of the public – and maybe that is no bad thing…

    But this episode might signify something more in the unfolding story of climate change. This event might signal a crack that allows for processes of re-structuring scientific knowledge about climate change. It is possible that some areas of climate science has become sclerotic. It is possible that climate science has become too partisan, too centralized. The tribalism that some of the leaked emails display is something more usually associated with social organization within primitive cultures; it is not attractive when we find it at work inside science…

    It is also possible that the institutional innovation that has been the I.P.C.C. has run its course. Yes, there will be an AR5 but for what purpose? The I.P.C.C. itself, through its structural tendency to politicize climate change science, has perhaps helped to foster a more authoritarian and exclusive form of knowledge production – just at a time when a globalizing and wired cosmopolitan culture is demanding of science something much more open and inclusive…

    There is much more correctnotright. Have you read his blog before correctnotright? No? Is that because he was “Peer Reviewed”?

    Crickets CHIRPING correctnotright.

  13. 19

    Puddybud Remembers Progressives Forget spews:

    doggril,

    Do you have a functioning brain? Have you been MIA on HA Libtardos durig correctnotright’s “peer reviewed” global climate change screeds? Did your parents skip over the Hippie years since they continue to live them?

    Must be. Grow up and grow some “mar-buls”.

  14. 20

    JohnA spews:

    @14

    Speaking of research integrity, maybe Daddy Love could tell us where he got this data:

    But here are some numbers, from the Intertubes:

    (11/20-22/09) Which of the following would you like to see President Obama do? Increase the number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan by the roughly 40,000 the U.S. commanding general there has recommended.
    – Increase the number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan but by a smaller amount than the 40,000 the U.S. commanding general there has recommended.
    – Keep the number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan the same as now.
    – Begin to reduce the number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan.”
    Increase by 40,000 37%
    Increase by Less Than 40,000 10%
    Keep the Same Number 9%
    Reduce the Number 39%Unsure 5%

    Daddy claims to be big on sources, but forgot his for the data above.

    Gotta source, Daddy?

  15. 21

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Wednesday, November 25, 2009

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 26% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-one percent (41%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -15. This is the second straight day at -15, the lowest Approval Index rating yet measured for President Obama. Seventy-four percent (74%) of African-Americans Strongly Approve along with just 19% of white voters.

    Among all voters, just 34% now give the President good or excellent marks on his handling of the economy while 47% say he is doing a poor job in that arena. On national security issues, 42% say good or excellent while 41% say poor. Sixty-three percent (63%) of voters believe that political correctness kept the military from preventing the Fort Hood shootings.

  16. 22

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Rabbit spews:

    Have you ever wondered what happened to the hippies?

    They now call themselves “progressives”.
    They have obtained wealth from Mommy & Daddy or the dot-com bubble and now want to impose their narrow lifestyle and withering economy upon the rest of us.
    There are few real hippies.
    It is chic to be a pretend Hippy.
    Kind of live off the land for a few months and then travel to Europe and other places on ECO-TOURS @ $10,000/week.

  17. 23

    bjav spews:

    Diplomacy 101

    “Mr. Obama’s own credibility is so diminished (his approval rating in Israel is 4 percent) that serious negotiations may be farther off than ever.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11.....8sat1.html

    Amateur Hour at the White House

    “On top of the inexcusably clumsy review of Afghan policy and the fumbling of Mideast negotiations, the message for Mr. Obama should be clear: He should stare hard at the skills of his foreign-policy team and, more so, at his own dominant role in decision-making. Something is awry somewhere, and he’s got to fix it.”

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/b.....you-travel

    Arianna Huffington on Obama’s Leadership

    “Arianna argues that Obama’s reported decision to escalate the war in Afghanistan calls into question his whole leadership.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....71431.html

  18. 25

    spews:

    People see Republicans for the foot-dragging, obstructionist, bought ‘n’ paid for asswipes that they are.

    That’s why they just lost two congressional seats in historically Republican districts.

    Wait’ll that job money hits in 2010. How will Republicans try to spin that?

    It’ll be interesting.

  19. 26

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Climategate is a growing problem democrats don’t want to admit.
     
    When even dailykos is onto it…
     

    Climate change scientists caught cooking the books?

    I believe in global warming, but should I?

      
    There is one of those kospolls on this thread.
     

    Did the scientists cook the books?
    yes 59% 131 votes
    no 31% 68 votes
    maybe 6% 13 votes
    undecided 5% 10 votes

      
    It’s a mandate!!
     
    man-madeup-global-warming is going to hurt those democrats that insisted the debate was over before it even started.
     
    If the debate is over, maybe ylb can link to the debate transcript.

  20. 27

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Why does oba-mao hate people that commit suicide?
     
    from liberal cnn-

    White House policy: No letter to families of military suicides

    Yet there’s an empty spot on the wall for an honor that never arrived: a letter from the president.

     
    Oba-mao can’t take the blame. Quick, someone blame someone else.
     

    It’s a matter of policy dating to the Clinton era, according to the White House. The commander in chief sends such letters to the families of troops who have died in combat, but not if they committed suicide, Gregg was told.

     
    Why does clinton hate the families of troops that committed suicide?

  21. 29

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    18. 女性人体艺术 spews:
    博客写的很好,有很多值得学习的地方,给博主留个言,记得回访哦。

     
    but what about-
    最新日本人体艺术|清丽、性感、诱惑、清纯

  22. 30

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    19. Puddybud Remembers Progressives Forget spews:
    Have you been MIA on HA Libtardos durig correctnotright’s “peer reviewed” global climate change screeds?

     
    I understand that when the scientists got together to deabte global warming I wasn’t invited.
     
    All I want is ylb, correctnotsmart or daddylove to point me to the transcript of the debate.
     
    I wasn’t around for the lincoln/douglas debates but I can always read them here.
     
    Since the debate about global warming is over, all I want is to see the transcript of the debate?
     
    Why are liberals so afraid to help me find the link?

  23. 31

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    20. JohnA spews:
    Speaking of research integrity, maybe Daddy Love could tell us

     
    Don’t count on it.
     
    When confronted with facts he usually goes into hiding mode.
     
    He insists the debate on man-madeup-global-warming is over, yet he refuses to provide a link to either a youtube video of the debate or even a transcript.
     
    I wonder why.

  24. 33

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Mark1 posts–
    POSTED: Friday, Nov. 27, 2009
    Man arrested after white powder sent to Times
    The Associated Press
    SEATTLE—

    The FBI has arrested a 35-year-old Seattle man after envelopes containing a suspicious white powder were sent to The Seattle Times.

    If it was white nose candy, Lee is your man!

  25. 34

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    More incompetence from the oba-mao administration…
     
    440 fake congressional districts, partycrashers at the state dinner.
     
    Now liberal ny times is reporting-
     

    A Stylish State Dinner, With Typos

    But one person the White House apparently neglected to hire was a spell checker.

     
    I wonder how correctnotright feels about the typos?
    People who can’t spell and can’t even check their spelling and also cannot use proper tenses (things they should have learned in third grade)
    I’m sure correctnotconsistant will give the oba-mao administration a free pass on this like he does everything else.

  26. 35

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    32. my ancestors came from Europe spews:
    Just did a string search on this page and there’s no discussion from the right wing lamers about the “Knights Carbonic

     
    Another comment where ylb FAILED to provide a link to the transcript of the debate on global warming.
     
    I wonder if ylb even knows there NEVER was a debate and I’m just mocking him.

  27. 36

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Just like healthcare, america should be more like canada.
     
    A wal-mart in Jonquiere, Quebec went union. Wal-mart closed the store.
     
    And the supreme court said they could.
     
    TORONTO (AP) — The Supreme Court of Canada said Friday that Wal-Mart Stores Inc. was entitled to close a store in Quebec in 2005, seven months after workers voted to become the first Wal-Mart in North America to unionize.
     
    Let’s be more like canada and close union businesses.

  28. 38

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @10 “You do the crime, you do the time***..”

    This is an oversimplification on several levels. At the most basic level, you “do the time” only if you’re a nobody. The moneyed and connected rarely do time no matter how much they steal or how many people they kill. In the great egalitarian democracy known as America, shoplifting a loaf of bread because you’re hungry has always been more severely punished than stealing millions on Wall Street or taking bribes from lobbyists in Congress.

  29. 43

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @26 Global warming is either happening or it’s not. (It clearly is.) Human activity either contributes to it or doesn’t. (Only boobs believe spewing billions of tons of CO2 into the air has no effect.) Who scores political debating points is completely irrelevant.

  30. 44

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Having scrolled down this far, and finding no evidence of intelligent rightwing life in this thread, I’m gonna go scrub the turkey roaster pan for a while. Later, eggplants.

  31. 46

    do the math spews:

    the liberals need to sharpen up that economic argument for ending the so called war on drugs which is no more than a wasteful government program that creates all kind of dependents like prison guards, etc.

    tell us how much each state will save by letting out ALL drug lrelated offenders (but not any ocnvicted of anythign violent) and what programs are about to be slashed for the same amount of money.

    The eco charts are good backgroud but to really communicate you gotta boil it down way more than that and tell a story like this.

    “This year, Washington state is cutting basichealth, but providing free health care in prison to XXX XX offenders who violated drug laws. The amount spend housing and caring for these offenders would more than pay for the basic health program. We think our children’s health comes before that of pot smokers and those participating in the distribution of cocaine to consumers of that drug. Why is Governor Gregoire putting drug consumers in front of little kids?”

    “Those drug consumers are making bad choices, but we need to stop providing them with free housing, food, protection and health care in our state prisons. We need the space for violent criminals and we need the money for basic health.”
    etc.

    But ratherr than work on that or working on ending the so called war on drugs, we’d prefer to argue with right wing idiots on comment threads for hours at a time.

  32. 47

    YellowPup spews:

    Okay, almost always on the way to Vancouver I’m treated with polite nonchalance or indifference by the Canandian border guards, but the American ones always want to act big and get in my face when I have to get back into the US.

    So imagine my surprise to find that Canadian border guards detained and searched Amy Goodman because they were worried she might defame the Vancouver 2010 Olympics, at a speech in a public library no less!

  33. 48

    Roots spews:

    At age 60, I can relate, from first hand experience, the fun of the 1960′s and 1970′s. Even if I try to be objective, I can not imagine that any generation witnessed the explosion of social change that we did. It’s interesting to watch the technology revolution (unending it seems), and the economic evolution (I wish that would stop!), but the 60′s and 70′s, the best so far. So why do we still arrest and imprison folks for possession something that grows wild in eastern Washington? Seriously, why? Someone tell Gregoire that she could grow, control quality and purity, package, sell and tax this stuff….and probably have a better chance at keeping it out of the hands of mind-still-forming 18 year olds and younger.
    But, I guess she and her group of last century thinkers would have to look out through the windows and do something different. Something radical, like try to generate some revenue instead of just take it, in the form of her yet another round of tax increases. We need new people and new ideas. It would be nice to have a governor who has done more in their life than pick up a government check.

  34. 49

    Politically Incorrect spews:

    Is marijuana “good” for us? Probably not. Is it the government’s business to interfere with our desire to use or not use marijuana? Definitely not!

    Marijuana is not “going away.” It will be here decades from now as a substance people choose to enjoy for its intoxicating effects or for the relief of their suffering. The government might as well get used to this and come to terms with the rest of society. Legalize, regulate and tax – Prohibition ain’t workin’!

    The real “drug” problem we should be concentrating on is the level of debt in our economy. Debt can be likened to chemotherapy drugs: they help, in small, controlled amounts, to kill cancer cells, but are, in fact, simply poisons. Debt is an economic poison that, when used sparingly, can lead to a better standard of living or growth in the economy. Too much debt, however, and the whole system implodes, like we’re seeing now.

    Take my advice – pay off all debt as soon as possible and limit your use of other people’s money!

  35. 50

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @48 “Something radical, like try to generate some revenue instead of just take it, in the form of her yet another round of tax increases.”

    You gotta be kidding. Washington residents have gotten billions of dollars in tax cuts in the last two years. They are paying vastly less to the state today than they were in 2007.

  36. 52

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    47. YellowPup spews:
    So imagine my surprise to find that Canadian border guards detained and searched Amy Goodman because they were worried she might defame the Vancouver 2010 Olympics, at a speech in a public library no less!

     
    No wonder the oba-mao supporters keep pointing to canada as an example of healthcare.

  37. 53

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    My how things are different under a democrat president…
     
    the liberal ny times reports-

    The Justice Department has concluded that the Obama administration can lawfully pay the community group Acorn for services provided under contracts signed before Congress banned the government from providing money to the group.

     
    Just imagine a year or so ago the democrat congress banning the government from giving $ to haliburton and bush had his doj say they could pay for “services” rendered.
     
    Now?
     
    zzzZZZZZZZZ

  38. 54

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @53 What would the right do without their scapegoats? They’d have to hate each other! Wait … they already do.

  39. 55

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    49. Politically Incorrect spews:
    and limit your use of other people’s money!

     
    See ylb, get a job.

  40. 56

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    54. Roger Rabbit spews:
    @53 What would the right do without their scapegoats?

     
    scapegoats like rush, hannity, haliburton, palin, etc?

  41. 58

    YellowPup spews:

    LOL From Huffington Post, Palin (much-vaunted runner of late) still a quitter:

    Sarah Palin dropped out of a 5k race on Thanksgiving Day in Kennewick, Wash. The former vice presidential candidate and Alaska Governor quit the race because she wanted to avoid the crowds that were waiting for her at the end, according to The Tri-Cities Herald.

    Someone else is always responsible. Very un-Republican-like.

  42. 60

    spews:

    i love how progressives and libertarians can both come so a similar position on the issue of the war on drugs.

    granted, our reasoning is completely different.

    but also funny how us “gold grubbing republicans” can justify it without the “think of all the money we can make!” argument.

    pot should be legal simply because the government has no business telling me i can’t load my body with harmful toxins. =)

  43. 61

    lorenzolarue spews:

    I plead ‘anarchy’, that is, the right to not tell anyone else what to do. It’s just a plant folks!

  44. 62

    Puddybud Remembers Progressives Forget spews:

    @17 & 18 — Looks like I rubbed your nerves, puddy. All one of ‘em.

    Roger Dumb Bunny those not Puddy.

    Good try dumb bunny! Awkward eh?

  45. 63

    Puddybud Remembers Progressives Forget spews:

    correctnotright,

    Why are you hiding over ClimateGate? Puddy know why Daddy Love is… he never leads he only follows. You on the other hand lead so much it’s toxic. So why are you now so “wery wery qwiet”?

    Puddy just asking you about this “peer reviewed” quandary? Why you qwiet now?

    Embarrassed?
    Stupefied?
    Shocked?

  46. 65

    Fucking nigger lovers spews:

    Fucking nigger lovers always trying to support making their shit legal, just because the fucking rappers say so. Niggers need to get back in their place once this monkey fluke out of office.

  47. 66

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Gold Digging Gate-Crashers Trying To Sell Their Story

    TV executives say White House gate-crashers Michaele and Tareq Salahi, whose 2003 wedding guest list was top-heavy with Republican luminaries, have contacted TV networks and urged them to “get their bids in” for interview rights, the Associated Press reports.

    According to AP, the couple is asking “mid six figures” for interviews and appearances. A separate news story earlier today said the couple has been sued at least 15 times and owes unpaid legal judgments.

    Personally, I think they should appear on prime-time TV news, being led into a federal courthouse in handcuffs.

  48. 67

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Senate Report: Rumsfeld Let Bin Laden Escape

    Osama bin Laden was cornered in Tora Bora and could easily have been captured by U.S. troops, but Bush defense secretary held back thousands of U.S. troops and sent in only 100 commandos, a U.S. Senate study says.

    The Associated Press reported tonight:

    “WASHINGTON (Nov. 28) — Osama bin Laden was unquestionably within reach of U.S. troops in the mountains of Tora Bora when American military leaders made the crucial and costly decision not to pursue the terrorist leader with massive force, a Senate report says.

    “The report asserts that the failure to kill or capture bin Laden at his most vulnerable in December 2001 has had lasting consequences …. Bin Laden’s escape laid the foundation for today’s … Afghan insurgency and inflamed the internal strife now endangering Pakistan, it says. …

    “Although limited to a review of military operations eight years old, the report could also be read as a cautionary note for those resisting an increased troop presence there now.”

    http://news.aol.com/article/se.....hin/789143

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: So there you have it, in black-and-white: The GOP appeasement monkeys let the monster of 9/11 get away, and in the process cost us a much bigger and bloodier war in Afghanistan, and may end up costing the loss of Pakistan to Islamic extremists.

    And Roger Rabbit is right that we should beef up our military effort in Afghanistan, not pull out.

  49. 68

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @65 Ptooey!!! I have just spit on you with virtual rabbit drool. What are you gonna do about it?

  50. 69

    spews:

    #65 is a desperate attempt to change the subject.

    Calling Diane Sawyer a ‘stinky Republican whore’ is probably more disturbing than flashing the N word.

  51. 70

    Marvin Stamn spews:

    More climategate problems…
     
    The debate is over they say, it’s so far over the people pushing man-madeup-global-warming destroyed the raw data to keep the debate over.
     
    Obviously, the data didn’t prove their point.
     
    SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based.

    It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years.
     
    Since the raw data is destroyed, guess that means the debate is really over.
     
    How convenient.

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    Marvin Stamn spews:

    It’s funny how left-wingnuts act & behave.
     
    If the oil companies did research and said it’s not man-made global warming, and then destroyed the data “proving” their claims, left-wingnuts would go crazy saying how the data proved them wrong and that’s why they destroyed the raw data. That their lying and cheating is proof of their failed agenda.
     
    But when left-wingnuts lie and destroy data, that means nothing.
     
    I wonder why left-wingnuts are such hypocrites.
     
    A google search for climategate finds-
    1 – 10 of about 13,100,000
     
    Pretty popular search if it finds 13,100,000 hits.
     
    It’s so popular the oba-mao supporters at google have made sure that typing in climategat in the search field doesn’t even bring up the search hint climategate.

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    Marvin Stamn spews:

    With oba-mao dropping in approval ratings, lower than bush after 11 months, the liberal ny times now has to report the truth.
     

    We were thrilled when President Obama decided to plunge fully into the Middle East peace effort. He appointed a skilled special envoy, George Mitchell, and demanded that Israel freeze settlements, Palestinians crack down on anti-Israel violence and Arab leaders demonstrate their readiness to reach out to Israel.
     
    Nine months later, the president’s promising peace initiative has unraveled.

    Mr. Obama’s own credibility is so diminished (his approval rating in Israel is 4 percent) that serious negotiations may be farther off than ever.

    Peacemaking takes strategic skill. But we see no sign that President Obama and Mr. Mitchell were thinking more than one move down the board.

      
    What did oba-mao supporters expect. They voted for the holiday inn candidate, the person with no real life leadership skills. Now we are seeing why he voted “present” so often.

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    bjav spews:

    @67 And Roger Rabbit is right that we should beef up our military effort in Afghanistan, not pull out.

    No more troops to Afghanistan, Senator Paul G. Kirk Jr., Massachusetts

    http://www.boston.com/bostongl.....ghanistan/

    On Obama’s Leadership, Arianna Huffington

    “Obama’s reported decision to escalate the war in Afghanistan calls into question his whole leadership.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....71431.html

    It’s certainly time for us to leave , Daddy Love

    “Afghanistan is not the graveyard of empires. It is a poor, fractured, rocky, mountainous, barely arable, chronically underperforming and mostly worthless hunk of not-much that the world’s powers occasionally consider, occupy easily, establish a puppet regime, and then lose interest in.”

    http://horsesass.org/?p=21691&.....ent-959021

    Anti-war protest shakes up holiday shopping

    http://www.seattlepi.com/local/412718_war28.html

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    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Good thing there’s a democrat in office, if not, just imagine how outraged left-wingnuts would be knowing that the person oba-mao picked (without congressional oversight) for a czar-ship has a conflict of interest.
     

    Santa Clara, CA – March 10, 2008 – APX, Inc., the leading infrastructure provider for environmental and energy markets, announced today that Carol Browner, former Administrator of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, has joined its Board of Directors. Ms. Browner, who has a distinguished career in public service, brings to APX’s Board deep expertise in environmental policy, including climate change issues.

      
    Follow the money.

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    Marvin Stamn spews:

    How to make the homeless problem disappear even when it’s rising?
     
    Elect a democrat president.
     
    With the oba-mao stimulus failing and millions more forced to unemployment, of course there would be more homeless.
     
    A google news search finds only 157 hits for homelessness rising.
     
    Why is the liberal media intentionally not reporting on the rising homelessness problem.

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    Marvin Stamn spews:

    Another liberal speaks the truth.
     
    msnbc liberal brian williams talking about the state dinner-
     

    It was a warm and glittery evening in a beautiful place…with better-than-average people!

      
    I wonder how many of the HA left-wingnuts are “average people?”

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    Puddybud Remembers Progressives Forget spews:

    I wonder how many of the HA left-wingnuts are “average people?”

    Now that’s funny Marvin.

    Wait for it… Proud leftist will attack you with the special prize he named after himself… The “Golden Goat”… for your stellar research into libtardo commentary!

  59. 78

    Puddybud Remembers Progressives Forget spews:

    Marvin,

    ClimateGate… It seems correctnotright and Daddy Love are missing in action again. Maybe their responses to ClimateGate are being “peer reviewed” before HA posting? Puddy wonders how long that will be?

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    Puddybud Remembers Progressives Forget spews:

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    cat white spews:

    Well, I’m one of those old hippies and I am far from a right winger. There are far more deaths and violence with alcohol than pot. I urge people to watch the documentary The Union. It seems a lot of growers would like to keep pot illegal because that is where the big bucks are. They can get more per ounce because of all the hands it goes through, as well as the risks involved. Too sad, it needs to be legalized just like alcohol. It sure would take the hassle out of getting it!

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    Marvin Stamn spews:

    78. Puddybud Remembers Progressives Forget spews:
    Marvin,

    ClimateGate… It seems correctnotright and Daddy Love are missing in action again. Maybe their responses to ClimateGate are being “peer reviewed” before HA posting?

     
    Being peer reviewed on dailykos as I type.
     
    They already came to the conclusion it’s all bush’s fault.
     
    They could prove it, except they destroyed all the data.

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    Puddybud Remembers Progressives Forget spews:

    correctnotright just popped up on the SHIT Thread, yet he’s mute on ClimateGate.

    Come on correctnotright… Puddy asking nicely… What say you dude… What is up with being “Peer Reviewed”?

    Why are you mute on this subject?