Follow the lede

Well, so much for “fair and balanced” journalism. The Seattle Times objectively reports on Gov. Christine Gregoire’s budget proposal:

Shortly after the November election, when it was clear Democrats would hold overwhelming majorities in the Legislature, Gov. Christine Gregoire vowed to keep lawmakers on a “fiscally prudent” path and to impose discipline if needed.

Now, some people hope legislators can restrain the governor from embarking on a $4 billion spending spree.

There is absolutely nothing objective about this lede. Perhaps it was poorly phrased, but whatever the intent, the Times’ mischaracterization of Gov. Gregoire’s budget as a “spending spree” will be understood by most readers as a statement of fact. Furthermore, by presenting the Governor’s proposed budget in opposition to her previous vow to be “fiscally prudent,” the Times clearly implies that she is not.

This is the Republican frame, and the Times reporters have swallowed it hook, line and sinker. The lede is also entirely consistent with the equally leading headline: “Governor’s big spending plan: Can we afford it?” The spending plan? Big. Can we afford it? Well, if you have to ask the price….

Don’t bother reading beyond the headline and the first couple paragraphs (and understand that most readers won’t,) the very language of the Times’ reporting serves to reinforce a frame that has been decades in the making. And as George Lakoff famously observes, if the facts don’t fit the frame, most people discard the facts and keep the frame.

As I have insisted many times before, there is a legitimate debate to be had over the proper size and scope of government — but “reporting” like this makes such a debate impossible. This article is based on an assumption — that projected budget deficits are due to profligate government spending — an assumption that if left unchallenged and unrefuted virtually assures the status quo: a government that continues to fall further and further behind its obligations.

The article also presents a faulty and simplistic methodology for measuring government growth. Nobody is arguing that the state government isn’t growing larger in terms of total employees or dollars spent. But these measurements are meaningless when presented outside the context of growth in the overall state economy. Indeed, despite its 12.2 percent growth, Gov. Gregoire’s biennial budget actually represents a smaller percentage of our state economy than any of the six biennial budgets that precede it.

Think about it. If state spending were to double over the next decade, but the state economy were to grow at twice that rate, then the government would effectively shrink in half when measured as a percentage of the overall economy. And since the metric that most closely tracks growth in demand for government services is growth in personal income, this smaller government (relative to the overall economy) would grow increasingly incapable of meeting the demands placed upon it.

Thus, if you are a proponent of smaller government, do nothing, for without substantial tax restructuring a smaller government is exactly what we are going to get. This is because our current tax system is structurally incapable of growing tax revenues at a pace equal to growth in the overall economy, because we tax a smaller and smaller portion of our economy every passing year.

That is a fact.

But you won’t read this fact in the newspaper. That’s because this fact is wonky. It’s complicated. It’s difficult to understand and explain.

And it doesn’t fit the frame.

Comments

  1. 1

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Goldy – The People of FUWA, and especially the single mothers are fortunate to have you leading the charge to keep making “smart investments”.

    So I’ll repeat MTR’s rules for moonbat taxing talking points:

    1) Don’t call it a tax. Be sure to call it an “investment”.
    2) Be sure to say that the tax structure will be “fair”.
    3) Make sure that it’s a blend of both sales tax and income tax that is “revenue neutral.”
    4) Give iron clad assurances that the rates will NEVER creep up; that’s it’s only to stablize gummint revenue. Taxes would only be raised in an emergency such as building pro sports stadiums.
    5) Make mention of the necessity for the winners of life’s lottery to “give back.”

  2. 2

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Also, the fucking losers like Roger Rabbit who think The Producers are obligated to pick up their medical bills are very thankful for your tireless efforts.

    I suppose I should consider adding another talking point rule: “It’s the right thing to do”. That’s what moonbats always say when something is obviously the wrong thing to do.

  3. 3

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Hey Loocy – Are forced investments also like checkers? Just wondering…

  4. 4

    Yer Killin Me spews:

    So far this post and thread has given me numerous good reasons why I never pay attention to the Times and three good reasons why I never pay attention to Mark the Wingnut “I Named Myself After A Failed Congressional Candidate” Kennedy’s comments.

  5. 5

    anti-liberal spews:

    Yer Killin Me says…why I never pay attention to Mark the Wingnut “I Named Myself After A Failed Congressional Candidate” Kennedy’s comments.

    Do a little research mini-muff; he posted under Mark The Redneck forever and added the Kennedy to mock the fat fuck, drunk mASShole, Ted.

    Had you NOT killed your braincells, what few you originally may have had, you would have noticed that quite a few of the BRAINED contributors added it to their nicks in support of the fat fuck mockery.

  6. 6

    Puddybud spews:

    Maybe Queen Chrissie’s budget has education $$$ for courses like these in other Moonbat! locations:

    http://www.latimes.com/news/op.....commentary

    I got an A in Phallus 101-The list of the 12 most bizarre college courses in the U.S. includes offerings such as ‘The Phallus’ and ‘Queer Musicology.’

    Don’t you love libtards in action?

  7. 7

    sven spews:

    You quit reading too soon.

    The second paragraph afterwards says:

    Republicans are eager to prey on those fears. They’re already test-marketing anti-Gregoire campaign messages for the 2008 election: When it comes to spending, Gregoire makes former Democratic Govs. Mike Lowry and Gary Locke “look like pikers,” said J. Vander Stoep, a close adviser to Republican Dino Rossi, who ran against Gregoire in the 2004 governor’s race.

    Sounds to me like the Times took a middle perspective. The Governor is planning a spending spree and the Repuplicans are planning a media storm. Both are obviously true. Her budget has huge increases, and the republicans would love to leverage that into negative publicity.

    That last part is a no brainner.

    Regardless, in the governors case, she has to deal with her history.

    She ran on no news taxes then raised taxes. She also ran on fiscal responsibility, so accusations that she is spending the surplus away are fair when she is proposing to spend most of the surplus.

    To most people spending out surplus is irresponsible, if said spending is not projected to be sustainable.

    Seems to me that is also what Bush and the Republicans got dinged for when they spent out the Budget Surplus Clinton left them.

    If the shoe fits.

  8. 8

    Puddybud spews:

    Maybe Queen Chrissie’s budget has $$$ for the remnants of catch and release:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....immigrants

    WASHINGTON – Illegal immigrants who were caught but released in the United States may have been re-arrested as many as six times, Justice Department data released Monday indicates.

    Since Chertoff banned catch and release, Moonbat!s will stop at nothing to ignore good things from neocons.

  9. 9

    proud leftist spews:

    Hey Redneck,
    How’s it feel to have antiliberal come to your defense? He has established himself as a guy who masturbates to a picture of Dino Rossi, longs to join the KKK if only they’d have him, and would go off to join our efforts in Iraq because it’s such a just cause, but he has other priorities. Of course, both of you share a high level of arrogance and mysogyny–hey, maybe you should ask him out for a drink.

  10. 10

    LiberalsRLiars spews:

    Funny how you liberals won’t refer to the “percentage of the economy” argument when it comes to talking about the FEDERAL budget. Hypocrites.

  11. 11

    My Left Foot spews:

    That’s funny. Goldy outs MTR as Puddybud, and look who shows back up.

    Mark, pay your debt. You are a fucking welcher. Your drivel is so tiresome. Just exactly who do you think you are impressing? Yourself?

    Your side lost. Now with your president hell-bent to increase troop levels in Iraq, with his meaningless (fruitless and destined to fail) troop surge, you have ZERO hope of gaining any ground in two year and he is has all but guaranteed the loss of the executive branch too. This is a moderate country, not a conservative one. Deal with it.

    My suggestions for you: Pick one moniker and stick with it. Pay the debt you owe. And, lastly, shut the fuck up.

  12. 13

    Puddybud spews:

    Maybe Queen Chrissie has money to cover Muslim taxi-cab lawsuits, sure to be a hit with all the drunk, drugged crazed libtards in Seattle and King County.

    http://www.nysun.com/pf.php?id=46220

    Islamic taxi drivers at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport are refusing passengers carrying alcohol and blind folks with seeing-eye dogs because the animals’ saliva is sacrilege according to Sharia law.

  13. 14

    Puddybud spews:

    My Left Foot says: Carl, the topic is Queen Chrissie’s budget. Can you read man?

    November 7th is two months ago. Since you and Clueless like to reelevate November 7th so much:

    “”Those who live in the past are cowards and losers” — Mike Ditka”

  14. 15

    My Left Foot spews:

    Pussybud @ 8:

    Nice to see your fine black ass back here. (I am giving in to your fantasy that allows you to have a phallic image of yourself, since we know you don’t have the stones as MTR)

    Puddybud says:

    “Since Chertoff banned catch and release, Moonbat!s will stop at nothing to ignore good things from neocons.”

    The answer my fine black friend is very simple: NOTHING GOOD EVER CAME FROM A NEOCON.

    What a dumbass!

  15. 16

    My Left Foot spews:

    Pussybud and LSoS:

    The issue is also your credibility, or lack thereof.

    Now, go fuck yourself.

    I agree with Goldy on the G’vnors budget and spending. There, I am on topic.

    Now, go fuck yourself asshole.

  16. 17

    Puddybud spews:

    Speaking out outing: I succeeded in getting Goldie’s goat, which does speak on how thin skinned this Moonbat! really is. I wear my outing as a BADGE of HONOR!

    Outing must be his latest new year’s resolution. Now I wonder if he’s working on the Gilbert Gottfried voice?

    When he blogs horsecrap, I’ll call him on it!

    His outing shows you how dumb libtards are. The closest anyone came to figuring me out was Clueless-YLB.

    Remember I ID’d Clueless and Tree Frog Farmer for the baka raka they are!

  17. 18

    My Left Foot spews:

    Pussybud and LSoS (one and same):

    The recent past has guaranteed our future. If we don’t learn from the past, we are doomed to repeat it. That is why Jews (like me) are taught NEVER AGAIN!

    I say to you now: Never again will we allow our government to be hijacked by extremists.

    Now, go fuck yourself, asshole.

  18. 19

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Puddy – What’s the “outing” thing about? I guess I missed that.

  19. 20

    Puddybud spews:

    Carl said “Nice to see your fine black ass back here. (I am giving in to your fantasy that allows you to have a phallic image of yourself, since we know you don’t have the stones as MTR)”

    Someone please translate. Come visit in the Rainier Valley Carl. Come down to MLK and Columbia. Or MLK and Othello.

    You have a phallic fetish?

  20. 21

    anti-liberal spews:

    Puddybud says:
    When he blogs horsecrap, I’ll call him on it!

    Dude, you must be as busy as the one handed leftjew constantly stroking his member

  21. 22

    Heath spews:

    So let us reframe the debate:

    “Washington state taxes bring in money which is then spent by the government. This returns the taxes to businesses and citizens directly in the largest “trickle down” effect you could hope for.

    “By making wise investments, the state also multiplies this trickle-down effect by the usefulness of the infrastructure it builds: roads, bridges, tunnels, railways, electrical power-lines, docks, schools, and defense.

    “Washington state’s economic success so far has been built on top of this “statehouse trickle down”, and the results clearly show that the plan is working. The money has been well-spent and the results are making Washington one of the more prosperous states in the nation.

    “The money has been well-spent and the results are making Washington one of the more prosperous states in the nation. Democratic policies create a higher standard of living than Republican policies.

  22. 25

    Puddybud spews:

    Goldie said seniors can’t graduate this year due to the WASL. I said it happens next year!

  23. 26

    My Left Foot spews:

    PussyPud and Mark the LYING Welcher:

    Typical Republican dumbfuck. Things being caught as a liar is a positive. Now you know why y’all lost the election. Now you know why you lost.

    I can’t believe you think being confirmed again as a liar (welching is also lying) is a good thing.

    How does that work in that fucktard mind of yours?

    What a moe-ron.

  24. 28

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Heath 22 – I’ve heard about this. Are you saying that we can TAX ourselves into prosperity?

    LMAO… Dumshit fucking moonbat…

  25. 29

    anti-liberal spews:

    Why I HATE liberals…
    …and other progressive socialist apostate commies of every breed and ilk.

    I am often asked, “Why the hatred for liberals?” To which I answer, “Why not? It’s for their own good.” You see, as part of the ‘vast correct wing conspiracy’ it is our duty to hate liberals. It’s right there in the party platform (between the part about Lincoln freeing the slaves and Bush vetoing stem cell research).

    In order to even become a republican you must swear an oath to defame and dissemble against all liberal enemies– foreign and domestic. In our daily (secret) meetings it is stressed that we must pound the left into submission no matter what the cost; no epithet is too strong, no slur too low, no swiftboating too uncalled for.

    And there are many many other good reasons to hate liberals. Let’s look at just a few of them, shall we?

    L stands for Lying Losers who whine incessantly,
    I stands for Insipid Insurrectionists who Instantly blame America first,
    B stands for Babbling Bolshevist Bumblers who Blame the rich for every social ill,
    E stands for Enervating Extremists and bad tempered malcontent mutineers,
    R stands for Radical Rabble-Rousing Rebel socialist Revolutionaries,
    A stands for Also-Ran Apostate Benedict Arnolds,
    L stands for Leftist Libertine subversive athiest quislings.

    Another good reason is that they told me to. We all get a fax and email every day which tells us exactly what to think and when to think it. Plus there is the mandatory three hours of Rush Limbaugh ‘re-educational programming’ every day. (Sean Hannity is only mandatory in a few of the more strict sects of the Vast Correct Wing Conspiracy cells.)

    More proof? Here it is: If you rearrange the letters in the phrase, “The Liberal Democratic Party” it spells, “A terribly complicated hater!”

    What more proof could you possibly need? …don’t worry I have more.

    More anagram proof.

    When you rearrange the letters in the words liberal and liberalism you get the following:

    liberal = bare ill
    liberalism = rabies mill
    liberalism = lame lib sir
    liberalism = liars lib me
    liberalism = smear bill i (Obviously it’s ok to smear Bill.)
    liberalism = lisa limber (Obviously a reference to gross immorality. I think I have her phone number here somewhere…)

    Beware Fidel!

    Now I know what you’re thinking. What about the word Republican? It probably spells something heroic or genuinely good and wholesome— well, you’re right, it does! How could the following be merely a coincidence? Proof that Republicans are the chosen people, destined to liberate the socialist oppressed masses:

    Anagram proof of Republican righteousness:
    republican = cuban peril

    Simply incredible! How can you doubt it? Everyone should hate liberals and love Republicans; the acronym and anagram proofs alone should be enough to convince anyone but the most brainwashed bolshevics. Fidel beware!

    Hatefully yours, (and borrowed from)
    Eric “the mildly malevolent” Simonson

    P.S. – Feel free to add your own reasons why you hate liberals in the comments section.
    P.P.S. – The preceding was an attempt at humor and does not represent the actual feelings of it’s author. (Wink, wink.)
    P.P.P.S. – Actually, we don’t hate liberals at all. It’s really more of a ‘tough love’. Is it hate when you tell a junkie that they need to clean up and stop doing drugs? Of course not! It’s love. Likewise the most virulent of the leftist memes are just as harmful and to be warned against. So how about a big group hug? You know you want to. C’mon, give daddy a hug.

  26. 30

    My Left Foot spews:

    auntie liberal @ 21

    “Dude, you must be as busy as the one handed leftjew constantly stroking his member”.

    Your anti-semitism is showing again, John Craig. Never capitalizing Jew.

    Again, the offer of a beer and face to face meeting is extended. You pick the place and time. Bring your friends. I can afford several pitchers of beer.

    Here is to guessing you are too pussy to meet.

    Funny how that works!

  27. 31

    anti-liberal spews:

    Hatred to a liberal is anyone disagreeing with their ideology.
    Love to a liberal is telling them they’re so smart and in touch with their feelings.

    Real love is telling someone when they act a fool.

    So, see, I really really love liberals.
    I do, honest. Seriously. I mean it! A lot!

  28. 33

    My Left Foot spews:

    Favorite tool of JCH/Auntieliberal: The cut and paste. Can’t think for himself, so he scours the internet for the bullshit he agrees with.

  29. 34

    proud leftist spews:

    Puddyfuck @ 23,
    My illusions have been shattered. I thought MWS was a pimply-faced high school sophomore who was struggling with his sexuality and hoping he could make second-chair clarinet in the marching band. And, I thought you were just the basic deluded rightwing dumbshit who should keep his mouth shut, but at least sometimes could tell the truth. Now, I learn otherwise. Why do you bastards on the right always have a second identity (Ted Haggard, et al)?

  30. 35

    Heath spews:

    Heath 22 – I’ve heard about this. Are you saying that we can TAX ourselves into prosperity?

    Yes, if the taxes continue to be spent wisely.

    LMAO… Dumshit fucking moonbat…

    That is refreshing, as you apparently cannot hold two ideas in your mind at the same time.

  31. 36

    My Left Foot spews:

    Pussypud and LSoS,

    I am guessing you were a Ted Haggard liason when he traveled to WA to “pump up” the masses. What do you know about Mark Foley? Did he molest you? Is that your excuse?

  32. 38

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    you crack me up heath… I didn’t know people like you actually existed…

    so tell me… is paying for health care for single mothers a “smart investment”?

    http://archives.seattletimes.n wsource.com/cgi-bin/texis.cgi/ web/vortex/display?slug=health care08m&date=20070108&query=co ffee+and+health+care

  33. 39

    anti-liberal spews:

    Woof Woof!

    “What is it Benji?”

    Woof Woof Woof!

    “What?” “Another liberal fell in the rabbit hole?”

    Woof! Woof Woof Woof!

    “OK Benji.” “Good dog, good dog!” “We’ll get them out as soon as the theme music from The Twilight Zone stops playing.”

    “You hear it too, don’t ya Benji?”

    Woof!

  34. 41

    proud leftist spews:

    Hey Redneck,
    Your essay for entry into humanity:

    Please explain in 200 words or less why compassion and empathy are not sins or evidence of weakness.

  35. 42

    My Left Foot spews:

    JCH:

    Nice to see you have not changed.

    Fuck you.

    While I enjoy the chit chat, the football game is very good. Go Gators! I am going to watch it.

    Catch you fucktards later.

  36. 43

    republidev spews:

    Goldy,
    I listened to your show last night and have listened to it before with the same result,you sound like a college kid overly excited about his new found toy… a radio studio.
    Personally i find you kind of whiny but at least you admit your a partisan and wear your party on your sleeve (kind of a stoopid statement)which is a lot more than I can say for other liberals. Anyway Talking to spokko was kind of idiotic. For every So-called hate speech conservative radio show there’s at least 10 liberals spewing some of the most vile hate filled rhetoric ever to cross the ether. I mean give me a break! Bush is stoopid? and well, he’s mentally ill? What Kind of intelligent talk is that? As usual the liberal hate machine rolls happily on and on and on and on blah blah blah. This is why I stay conservative.(oh yeah I used to be a liberal puke until the i.q. requirement went down) Keep giving the gift of insanity! you’re doing great.

  37. 46

    My Left Foot spews:

    Republidev is Pussypud and LSoS.

    The clue was toooooo big to miss. Stooooopid.

  38. 47

    anti-liberal spews:

    My Left Foot says: While I enjoy the chit chat, the football game is very good.
    Go Gators!
    I am going to watch it.

    Little Aiden, the 1st grader next door reads:
    See Spot.
    See Spot run.
    See Spot run and jump.

    Fess up leftjew… you wrote that, didn’t you? Your overly simplistic (one might say moronic) style is too easily recognized.

  39. 48

    My Left Foot spews:

    Auntieliberal/JCH:

    I write all my posts very simply so that you can understand them. You always aim for the lowest common denominator (you can google the big words).

    Now hush, I am watching football.

  40. 49

    anti-liberal spews:

    Here’s a crazy idea, let’s review some of what the liberal Democratic party does stand for and believe.

    They believe that children should learn in Kindergarten how to use a condom but don’t mind so much if they can’t read when they graduate from high school.

    They say they want to end poverty but continue to support a welfare system that has exacerbated poverty, fueled crime, gutted American inner cities, and left a legacy of failure and broken lives with nothing but a bill to show for it.

    They say they support parents but don’t think you have a right to know if your 14-year-old daughter (who probably wasn’t paying attention in condom class) is pregnant and want an abortion.

    They understand abstinence when it comes to cigarettes and alcohol (not so much with weed) but don’t think it applies to pre-marital sex.

    They defend, to the point of treasonously revealing intelligence gathering operations, the right to privacy, which is written nowhere in the Constitution, but think the right of the people to keep and bear arms is negotiable.

    They claim to be the voice of the people, and then ramrod their agenda through the court system, conveniently avoiding the legislature, the real voice of the people.

    They say they support the troops, and then base their political fortunes on the troops failing.

    They’re pro-choice unless the choice you’re making is what school to send your child to.

    They abhor when the President or law enforcement breaks the law in their eyes, yet have no problem with 12 million people being in this country illegally… and VOTING.

    They say you shouldn’t put your fortune in an offshore account and should pay your share if you’re wealthy unless your last name is Kennedy or Kerry.

    They want the rich taxed to death but can’t remember the last time a poor person gave them a job.

    They support increasing the Army by 2 divisions, about a 4th of what they cut when Clinton was in office.

    They have no problem with an entertainment industry that glorifies violence, drug abuse, misogyny, and every other form of deviant behavior but think its a faux pax to say the name of Jesus in public (unless its the name of one of the illegals who they think should have social services without paying taxes and be allowed to VOTE).

    They say they believe in the freedom of speech, but only if its PC and only it it’s their free-speech.

    They say they are for tolerance but won’t tolerate those who don’t go lockstep with their radical socialist agenda.

    They say it takes a village to raise a child while turning the village into a cesspool of vice and moral corruption you want to protect your kids from, not to interact with.

    They don’t think rape should be a capital crime but have no problem with executing a child whose only crime was to be conceived.

    They state that they are for the mentally and physically handicapped, then support abortions for parents who spot these conditions in their preborn children. After all, these children won’t have “a proper quality of life and will be a burden”.

    They say they represent women’s rights, and then support abortion based on sex selection, which almost always ends in the abortion of an unborn girl.

    They say they are for energy independence but don’t offer any alternatives to Bush’s comprehensive energy plan, which they then deadlock in the Senate. They then proceed criticize the President for the nation’s lack of an energy plan.

    They criticize Bush for not taking out bin Laden in the 9 months he had in office prior to 9/11 but don’t say a thing about the 8 years Clinton had to do the same.

    They think the fate of the United States is best protected in the United Nations in the hands of Countries with less of an economy than Pittsburgh and an army that couldn’t take on the NYPD.

    They abhor the national debt but forget that their program of Social Security will bankrupt the nation.

    They cry foul over disenfranchisement for hanging and dimpled chads in Florida, then try to get military overseas votes nullified because they had the wrong postmark.

    They love to mock Columbus but glorify Che Guevera.

    They think white people should be grateful to be told that they are the root of all evil.

    Their hearts bleed for those who earn less than the poverty level… unless they’re privates in the Army, then they are excoriated as warmongers, baby-killers and terrorist prisoner abusers.

    They say they abhor racial discrimination, and then order reverse discrimination by government mandate.

    They support the freedom of religious expression as long as the religion you choose to express isn’t Christianity.

    They seem to believe that well paid professional liars (Hollywood celebrities) speaking to you from their air-conditioned 25,000 square foot homes are the best people to lecture you about how you use entirely to much resources keeping your house air-conditioned.

    They cannot comprehend how crime rates go down the more people you put in jail.

    They are against stereotypes, unless you’re talking about a ‘slack-jawed, beer swilling, Bible-thumping, intolerant, bigoted, sexist, homophobe, redneck NASCAR fan. Or a jack-booted, neo-Nazi, gun-nut, anti-government, survivalist hunter’.

    They think burning your nation’s flag is the ultimate act of patriotism.

    They say they are against the frivolous use of military force yet have deployed the military more in the 8 years of Clinton’s presidency than in the 40 years preceding it.

    They endorse the blatant coffin riding of an attention mongering mourning-profiteer like Cindy Sheehan.

    They think the spoilt progeny of overindulgent white yuppie parents who shops at the gap, drives an Escalade, and drinks triple mocha non-fat double caf lattes is in an excellent position to denounce capitalism.

    They think that achieving wealth, achieving even part of the American dream, should be punished with taxes.

    They think a paper-pushing bureaucrat in D.C. is a far better authority on how to spend 30%+ of my income than I am.

    They put a convicted (later pardoned by Carter) draft dodger in the White House while veterans were homeless.

    They think responsibilities have no rights if you’re a man with a child, pre-born or born.

    They think the best way to protest globalization is to burn down a locally owned McDonald’s.

    They think thinks that squatter’s rights trump property owner’s rights.

    They think it’s inhumane to NOT provide water for those thirsty illegals attempting to sneak over the border
    and championed suing their own government for not helping people break the laws it made.

    I’m sure many of the vast CORRECT wing conspirators here can think of a few more examples.
    It’s not hard.
    Just look up hypocrisy in the dictionary and apply it to any line of the Democratic plank.

  41. 50

    anti-liberal spews:

    The left leaning aren’t appreciative of humor because it lacks the essential quality of liberal entertainment, earnestness. Humor is always questionable because so much of it is based on making fun of someone or something. TSK, TSK.

    Speaking politically correctly, nothing of quality is possible if it results in more than a knowing smirk. This has forced liberals to create a whole new brand of fun, which largely lacks most of the qualities of “traditional” fun.

    Liberal fun is characterized by the omnipresent furrowed brow. The brow furrow (you know the one, a vertical trough between the eyes) is commonly taken as proof of a social conscience. Other outward signs of socially acceptable fun are pursed lips, clucking sounds and the repetitive use of hip words such as nazi, fascist, Halliburton, and moron. The sixties had a similar phenomenon but the prevalence of drugs and sex muddied the water with elements of traditional fun.

    One example of liberal fun is singing protest songs, usually in styles that are totally unsuited to the participants. Picture Hillary and poor unloved Joe L. trying to do the urban scene with their hip hop self’s. Imagine the fun of belting out tired remakes of 60’s epics with the likes of Cindy Sheehan. Again, this was done in the 60’s and again it was done better.

    Another fun activity by the non-imperialist crowd is protesting something. It doesn’t matter what, just as long as their is a suitable place to march around in and vent anger in a totally ineffective way. Everyone gets incredibly high on self-congratulation and sometimes there is a celebrity sighting. Good times! This was also in vogue in the 60’s and was done better…. ask John Fucking Kerry.

    Before you think that modern liberal fun is entirely inferior to the dovish fun of the 60’s, consider the pleasure of taking in a stirring documentary on a scintillating topic like gun control, the plight of the rain forest or global warming. This is the modern equivalent of attending poetry readings
    .
    Although these activities are certainly boss, the all time favorite liberal way to pass time is to get with other like-minded folk and bitch about everyone else being so wrong. I guess, that on occasion, even I, a dreaded and despised neocon, can see the appeal of this activity. So there is some common ground between the Blues and Reds, everyone wants to feel right … even if they are left… and all wrong.

    And for all those who can’t detect your tongue placed firmly in your cheek, I offer the immortal words of Michelle Quan, “Boo-Freaking-Hoo”.

  42. 52

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Looks like Frank Blethen wants Dino to get in, so he can take another run at the inheritance tax … has anybody checked Ol’ Frank for a pulse recently?

  43. 53

    ConservativeFirst spews:

    My Left Foot says:

    That’s funny. Goldy outs MTR as Puddybud, and look who shows back up.

    But is he retired and on vacation in “Hawaii”?

    I’m curious, would you support Goldy “outing” other posters who used multiple IDs, even the liberal ones?

    Thanks for the unecessary “advice” on retiring early. I found it elightening insight into how arrogant you must be to think that no one else here might be retired by the time they are 45.

    In other threads you’ve attempted to insult me by inferring that I’m poor and a homosexual, does that mean you think being poor and homosexual are disgraceful traits?

  44. 54

    ConservativeFirst spews:

    My Left Foot says:

    That’s funny. Goldy outs MTR as Puddybud, and look who shows back up.

    Where did Goldy do this? I went back and searched recent threads and didn’t see any such “outing”.

  45. 56

    Puddybud spews:

    CF: Indeed, Goldie outed me. Look at the threads around the WASL. He couldn’t deal with my facts. He was dead wrong about the WASL and 2007 and it embarrASSed him so bad he decided to out me! Thin skinned libtard.

    Thanks Goldie. NOW I KNOW I GOT TO YOU!

    I guess it was the burning and itching, huh?

  46. 57

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Rancid Butt Putty outed himself. This pathetic little wingnut cannot deal with the reality that If You post with a published, valid Email on the wingtard blog, effinUnsound, anyone can know who you are. They can know where you are registered to vote, they can know where you pay property taxes, and they could show up on your doorstep with a polaroid to publish your pink ass.

  47. 59

    Puddybud spews:

    Tree Frog or is a KillaLibtard: I used that email address the whole time I posted here. You are an apologistic dumbASS!

    Come one over Froggy and kiss my pink ass! I’ll wear the short shorts! Maybe I’ll get a man thong just for you Froggy.

    Does your voice sound like your name? You and Goldie could tag team tandem his radio show soon.

  48. 60

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    It would be just like you, a lyin’ wingtard hypocritcal talibangist to try to instruct Goldie on the Shabat. Does that ring any memories in that deluded psychotic mind of yours, Darrell?

  49. 62

    Puddybud spews:

    Tree Frog: What the matter bozo? Poor poor Froggy, no brain, low IQ, neanderthal sloped brow.

    Tell me Froggy, how did I out myself? I used sucker@goldie.net almost the whole time in his version 1.1 and all the time for his version 2.0 HorsesASS!

    Tell me Froggy, what did Goldie say? Well MWS/Puddy …

    Tell me Froggy, why are you such a dumbASS?

    Froggy, are you Darryl or Will?

  50. 63

    Puddybud spews:

    Froggy, probably has sucker feet and BUG eyes!

    Froggy, probably has green skin and is slimy!

    Froggy, probably has to stay close to water or he dries out!

  51. 64

    Puddybud spews:

    Froggy you still pissed off when you used rancidbuttpuddy I figured it out in what 15 seconds?

    You could not figure it out and it burns you up. Libtards have no intelligence. Libtards can change their name but they can’t change their hatred. It dulls everything around them.

  52. 66

    Puddybud spews:

    Froggy: You are so full of hatred you personally attack me. Typical libtard! Please keep it up Froggy!

  53. 67

    rob spews:

    Libtards, you now no what it is like to be a traitor and turn from a proud red state to a liberally retarded state on promises from your lying office holders like Sherrod Brown.

    Florida: 41
    Ohio State: 14

    Semper Fi Libtards

  54. 68

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Darrell, crawl back in to your little hole down there in the south end of Hood Canal. When you dribble this sort of nonsense, you convince no one of anything other than your delusional immaturity.

  55. 69

    Puddybud spews:

    I figured it out. Froggy gave Goldie the facts on the 2007 seniors not graduating due to poor WASL math scores and Goldie must have threatened Froggy regarding incorrect data.

    Froggy, why are you covering for Goldie and his stupidity.

    I got to David Goldstein.

    Kevin Cairns didn’t do it.

    John Craig Herman didn’t do it.

    Cynical didn’t do it.

    ChristmasGhost didn’t do it.

    ConservativeFirst didn’t do it.

    PBJ didn’t do it.

    His thin libtard skin broke last week!

  56. 72

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Darrell,keep blathering to cover your own stupidity. You outed yourself. You cannot cover that up. You are on record with too many lies about yourself to pull out now. . .keep it up. Embroider your psychoses some more. . . . . . . .

  57. 73

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @29 Why stop at hating liberals? Why not hate rabbits? Or even better, why not HATE liberal rabbits? But why merely HATE liberal rabbits, instead of DOING something about it? Show up at my burrow at 9 PM. Bring a gun so I can claim self-defense.

  58. 74

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @73 Not serious!!! Just another example of “liberal humor.” What the hey, if Ann Coulter does it, why shouldn’t I? Anything for a laugh!!!

  59. 75

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @67 Yes, I saw that Ken Blackwell’s red-staters got their asses kicked by the Confederates tonight … after Blackwell himself got HIS ass kicked last month …

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR … (you know the drill)

  60. 76

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @75 Speaking of which — if the wingtards get their wish to require talking in English as a condition of staying in this country, we’ll have to deport all the southerners back to the Confederacy and then the wingtards won’t have anyone to vote for them.

  61. 78

    rob spews:

    75: In case you havn’t noticed rodent, Ken Blackwell isn’t in office anymore. The recently turned blue state got their asses handed to them.

  62. 79

    rob spews:

    76: or we could deport the Libtards to mexico or cuba. I am sure they would be more comfortable in either of those countries. Where is the confedarcy located that you are deporting southerners to again? You must still be on your meds rodent. But that is true of all liberals.

  63. 80

    Puddybud spews:

    Froggy: Wrong again. Keep repeating it like and it STILL will NOT be TRUE. Ask Goldie what was my email address before and after. I never changed it. But I didnget under his skin.

    After you figure out the blither ASS you still are… maybe just maybe… you’ll go back to being something more worthwhile other than a one cell paramecium!

    Froggy: You’ve been dissected and nothing was found for the students to inspect.

    Good night!

  64. 81

    Puddybud spews:

    Rob: Furball the Pelletizer lives in the past. “”Those who live in the past are cowards and losers” — Mike Ditka”.

  65. 82

    rob spews:

    Goldy, I am sure you can get these nimble minded liberals who post here and the rest of the Gregoire apologists to buy your rediculous spin that increase in gdp should equal increase in the state budget. This year we aren’t going to do as well as last year, construction will be down and last year played a major part in the gdp you keep waving around. In case you don’t get it, the gdp was last year the budget is for the next two years. You are comparing apples and oranges but it’s good spin because your 5 or 6 followers will swallow it.

    You convieniantly fail to mention that the previos data you used was during a national slow down and recession after 8 years of clinton/Locke. To use your analysis the budget should have fallen during the lean years of Clinton/Locke. Of course by your on charts in didn’t.

    If you really want an honest debate, bring forth all the facts.

  66. 83

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    RancidButtPutty can blather all he wants to, but the truth is out there, Mulder.
    He posted both here and on EffinUnsound as Darrell. He used his real e-mail, published on EffinUnsound when he was stupider than he is now. . .if possible. A little research will reveal his other posts, complete with his real name on other blogs. . .very stupid for a psychotic little wingnut troll. Our good buddy the Minnow was more than happy to supply his home address through his voting registration. A little further esearch reveals when he and his assorted relatives moved to Washington from Caleeforneeah. Altogether, not a very smart psychotic little troll.

  67. 84

    Goldy spews:

    Man… all the bullshit in this comment thread just proves the point, doesn’t it? Nothing brings out the trolls like an issue they just don’t want to debate.

    As long as we do nothing… as long as we stick with the tax structure we have now, the righties win, regardless of what the majority of voters say they want from their government.

    You guys don’t want to have that debate on the proper size and scope of government because you know that the majority of Washingtonians disagree with you. So instead, you’re happy to use subterfuge and lies to get that smaller government by default.

  68. 85

    YOU LIB BRO spews:

    PUDDYBUD/MWS/LSOS:

    YOU ARE A LIAR AND A BELIEVER IN RIGHT WING FAIRY TALES.

    FACTS? LIKE THAT ABLE DANGER AND GORELICK WALL?

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

  69. 87

    My Left Foot spews:

    conservativelast:

    Please, don’t accuse me of throwing mud, when your hands are covered in it.

    Thank you for letting me know that I got to you. Someday you can you can tell me all about your retirement. Until then, shut the fuck up. Funny how WingFucks like you get all bent about name calling when you are the target. But labeling war dissenters appeasers and traitors is perfectly fine. You question my manhood and I laugh, I question yours and you cry like the baby we know you to be.

  70. 88

    Puddybud spews:

    For the last time Froggy, Goldy outed me as MWS. That’s what the topic is here Froggy. You are the dumbest libtard here.

    BTW you love Rancidbuttputty. Are you following me into the toilet and sniffing my crap? How else would you know about those spices?

    Regarding an email address, yes, I wanted to write to the real GBS and JSA. They published a “real” email address too. Real people want to have “adult” conversations. Something eluding yourself forever. You still sit at the children’s table when family reunions occur! My tertiary email address is a mostly unmonitored where spam collects and I delete it.

    I can know the real JSA and GBS names dumbASS. Do I care? Nope! Only you care Froggy.

    Froggy, Once again dissected and found to be an empty suit!

  71. 89

    Puddybud spews:

    Froggy has this email fixation. Why? I think he knows he’s a wimpy empty suit (after dissection of course).

  72. 90

    ConservativeFirst spews:

    My Left Foot says:

    Please, don’t accuse me of throwing mud, when your hands are covered in it.

    Thank you for letting me know that I got to you.

    LOL. I’ve been messing with you this whole time and laughing at every response. Arrogant self absorbed people like you are fun to mess with.

    Someday you can you can tell me all about your retirement.

    Again, you assume I’m not retired. Why are you so arrogant?

    But labeling war dissenters appeasers and traitors is perfectly fine.

    Get your facts straight. I’ve never done this.

    You question my manhood and I laugh, I question yours and you cry like the baby we know you to be.

    I never questioned you manhood. I questioned your veracity. After which you flew off the handle, posting as Mrs. Left Foot and apparently changing the proxy server you use. Pretty wacky for someone who’s on “vacation”. I’m not sure where I “cried like a baby”. I might have laughed like one though.

  73. 91

    My Left Foot spews:

    Dear Conningyoufirst:

    I hide my IP on a regular basis. When I find one that suits me, I use it until it is no longer available. Just a simple privacy measure. You can find free programing or you can purchase programs such as HIDE MY IP.

    It is my OPINION that you are not retired. Just as it is your opinion they my alter-ego is my wife. If the post says Mrs. Left Foot, then she wrote it. She spends little time here and chides me regularly for wasting my time here. I suppose I could be doing something more productive, but I would not be nearly as entertained.

  74. 92

    Goldy spews:

    Puddy @88,

    I never outed you. I pointed out that “Mike Webb Sucks” and “Puddybud” are one and the same, but to this day I protect your anonymity, and your right to remain anonymous.

    That said, I could have really outed you long ago. But I don’t play that game.

  75. 93

    Puddybud spews:

    So Goldie: You outed my nicks but I used different email addresses!

    Will you admit Tree Frog and Killatroll are the same?

    Will you admit YOS LIB BRO and Clueless are the same?