Apparently he even lied about his age in trying to seduce her….
Oh…and for the record…
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Some of us have dialup, so I’m not able to the videos. What are they of?
Wow! Cindy was a real hottie back then! And the ducats! That’s real catnip to a Republican!
You wingnuts understand – wasn’t it Newtie G. who showed you all that the “grass is greener” is a fundamental plank of the Republican party?
Darryl–
The more O-BLAH-BLAH’S sure-fire coronation evaporates, the meaner you get.
Failed Community Organizer (aka lacky for slumlord’s) does not impress most American’s no matter how mean you are.
Darryl–
Why do you have to be so mean?
@3
Obama taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago. I think the voters will like that much better than your boys using the constitution for toilet paper.
At least the affairs McSame has had are with women (we think.) Perhaps there’s a Larry Craig story coming from FlipFlop McSame too.
Wow, at age 43, John McCain was betraying his oath as an officer and gentleman (O-6 Captain, no less) in the United States Navy, by cheating on his wife and committing adultery.
At age 43, Barack Obama was getting elected to the United States Senate — and let’s pray that Obama has never cheated on his wife!
I guess this means that Obama is not “ready to lead”.
Mr. Cynical @ 4
“Why do you have to be so mean?”
Mean? What the hell are you talking about?
Lying to seduce a woman practically makes him a G.O.P. (Party) hero. Think about it…a Republican sex scandals that doesn’t involve either bathroom stalls, children, OR animal husbandry!
Richard Pope @ 7,
“I guess this means that Obama is not “ready to lead”.
Well…not as a Republican, anyway.
Got quite a giggle from the second video. :)
Cynical
Man, you really need to go to detox. When pushing the truth looks “mean” just because it contradicts your cramped dreamworld of rightwing holiness, your world ain’t a place to be. Your brain is plainly assaulted by too many intoxicants. You laud a book by Jerome Corsi that every sane person knows is fraudulent, yet diss an interview with John King? C’mon, man, you need help. McCain is an asshole, always has been, always will be. Grasp that, Cynical.
More proof that the nutroots and 0bamaniacs are getting desperate: envelopes with threats and white powder sent to McCain offices.
The Rezko ads are just a start. Barack has Chicago-sized closet of skeletons: http://www.BarackBook.com (not just rumors and allegations — PROOF).
Richard @ 7, The one thing you can be sure of: Obama won’t cheat. He can’t. Michelle has his balls in a jar on the nightstand.
The Real Mark @ 12,
” The one thing you can be sure of: Obama won’t cheat. He can’t. Michelle has his balls in a jar on the nightstand.”
Huh…sound like you have intimate knowledge about the issue….
(*snicker*)
Darryl @ 13: (*snicker*)
Interesting you should mention Snickers. A yellow-shorts-wearing “guy” like you could definitely use Mr. T’s assistance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bUxi_Eo6fU
The Real Mark-
Funny Stuff!
However, Darryl couldn’t even get 1 leg into those Yellow Shorts.
And Darryl’s forte isn’t speed walking..it’s more like Slow Waddling!
For a guy who bitches about the economy, Darryl hasn’t missed a meal..that’s for sure!
See this article:
By SANDY COHEN, AP Entertainment Writer
“BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. – Celebrities aren’t always coy about their love affairs.
Jamie Foxx, Fran Drescher, Lucy Liu and Isaiah Washington were among the stars who proclaimed their love for Barack Obama Thursday night at a swanky soiree.
VIP donors paid $2,300 each to attend the Black and White Gala for Barack Obama at a private home in Beverly Hills.
Mario Van Peebles and other guests munched on croissants, crudites, olives and eggplant while a seven-member gospel choir performed.
They set the evening’s tone with a rousing song: “Time for a change. We are the people, we can do it.”
The party raised more than $200,000 for the Obama campaign, said Theresa DeBell, who hosted the event with her husband, Robert Siegel.”
There were less than 100 people there.
Isn’t Isaiah Washington the former Gray’s Anatomy star who got canned for call George a homo??
And then there is foul-mouthed Jamie Foxx.
What an impressive group!!
Hmmmmmm………
Jamie Foxx………..Dick “go fuck yourself” Cheney…………
Isaiah Washington………….Mark Foley, Ted Haggard, Larry Craig…….
Need I say more?
RIP GOP
FYVM
Let me see if I got this right. I’m supposed to be outraged that a person divorced his spouse? Am I missing something here? Why am I supposed to be indignant over this?
OB08. Obama Biden ’08. That’s my prediction.
Hey Troll you’re supposed to be upset because we all know you’re no Democrat.
And just to keep you from getting away with trying to minimize the horrible conduct of your guy FlipFlop McSame – the point isn’t that he got a divorce – although that alone is enough to cause some extreme bible-thumpin’ fools to go off – the point is he left his disfigured wife, had an affair and got a divorce. That’s the guy you right wing turds want to tell us is a “leader.”
@20
Sometimes leaving your wife is the honorable thing to do. Don’t you think Scott Peterson should have just divorced his wife?
Do you have indoor plumbing?
Darryl is a fatso?
If it’s not a medical condition, it speaks volumes about his self-worth/respect.
That explains why lee threatened to slap food out of my hand after I said fat people should pay more for their health insurance.
Talked to a lady from my church a while back who told me she was so impressed that John McCain appeared at the end of the program “Army Wives” on TV, to talk about how important it was to honor the sacrifices of the family members of the military.
She totally misunderstood when I gagged on my coffee. She thought I had something against family members of the military. It took me a while to recover, and then explain to her why I reacted the way I did, about how McCain left his first wife, the one who had waited for him while he was a POW, for a prettier woman who was not disabled and was rich to boot. After that, she was quiet for a while, and then just said… “well, that casts things in a different light, doesn’t it?” and walked away.
No I can just point them to this video.
Great line from the mcsame video…
“I take full responsibility of the breakup of my first marriage.”
No redefining the word “is” or any lawyerish parsing of words.
And he’s still close to his first wife? How many divorced couples can make that claim.
By the way – an officer committing adultery while in the service is guilty of a crime and subject to courts-martial. The military still prosecutes officers for such conduct, although lately it tends to turn a blind eye to such conduct among enlisted men, as long as it is kept quiet.
If McCain was questioned about it by a superior officer and lied about it, then he would also be guilty of another crime – “false reporting”, and possibly “obstruction of justice”.
Isn’t this the reasoning the wingnuts gave for why Bill Clinton needed to be impeached and removed from office?
My guess is that the military knew about McCain’s adultery, but didn’t prosecute him because (a) he was a former POW and the military wanted to portray all POWs as heroes, (b) his father and grandfather were all admirals in the Navy, (c) he was a “ring-knocker” (Naval Acadamy graduate – they are rumored to protect their own), and (d) he promised to leave the military at the earliest opportunity, and was advised that if he didn’t do so he would be involuntarily removed by courts-martial.
Gee, you would think that a Naval Acadamy graduate would know something about the Code of Military Justice. Or maybe not, considering his final class ranking, he might have zoned out entirely during that semester.
In my quest for wanting to be accepted by my fellow Democrats, I’m going to join all of you in denouncing McCain over getting a divorce. I’ll have to be honest, though. I am not yet as outraged you by it, but I’m trying.
Let me make an honest attempt at indignation:
How dare John McCain get divorced 30 years ago! People are supposed to stay together forever, cuz that’s what it says in the vows! So he is evil for falling out of love with his wife! All people who get divorced are immoral!
It’s up to twelve houses now!
What an “elitist”!
I’ll use an old Huckabee (remember him?) quip:
“Kind of reminds you of the guy who laid you off.”
Here’s a good video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7PfSEtiXPw
Troll @ # 29: I’ll actually give you credit for that one. Nice use of humor and sarcasm, in an understated manner. Much better than the usual name-calling.
So he is evil for falling out of love with his wife! All people who get divorced are immoral!
It’s not the divorce idiot, it’s the cheating. How dense are you?
McSame does have the common touch after all.
Look what John and Cindy pay the help:
http://nitpicker.blogspot.com/.....touch.html
In my quest for wanting to be accepted by my fellow Democrats
After your track record here?
Dream on.
Still, I’m waiting for someone to explain to me why Bill clinton getting caught for having sex with an intern once and lying about it automaticially disqualifies him from the Presidency and justifies his impeachment and removal from office, while McCain gets a pass.
And don’t tell me that it’s because Clinton lying about it was “illegal”. McCain’s adultery while an officer in the military was also illegal, justifying a courts-martial and punishment ranging from dishonerable discharge and forfeiture of benefits to imprisonment.
Really, I’m just trying to figure out the rules here – where is the moral outrage among the Republicans? Where is the indignent defense of “family values”? Where is the insistance that their candidate be a “Man of God”?
Edwards had an affair, has admitted to it, and everyone agrees that his political career is now over (much to the glee of the Republican talking heads). But these same people are pushing for McCain as the next president?????
You know there are a lot of people out there who don’t use the internet and of those that do, only occasionally for the e-mail or limited browsing of portal sites.
They’d never think of sitting and reading a whole article on-line or surfing from one link to another examining different perspectives to ferret out the truth. If they do read something approaching an article you know it’s from one of those bogus chain e-mails chock full of falsehoods.
They are the low information voters, the emotional voters. Any serious political campaign knows how crucial they are to winning an election.
Republicans do whatever they can to manipulate these people to the throw the lever the Republican way.
And as for the people at the short end of the Republican stick? Ruthlessly suppress their votes. Add voting machine fraud to the mix which is next to undetectable leaving only circumstancial evidence. And it happened just as badly in 2006 as it did in 2004. Make no mistake. It will be even worse in November.
The RNC warchest is full. The 527’s are out there. It’s going to be close.
By the way, as an Evangelical Christian, I am often reminded by my fellow church members that a President must be a “Godly person”.
So in that light, let’s look at what the New Testiment says about the qualifications for leadership in the church:
I Timothy Chap. 3, vs. 2-5 (NIV).
Which candidate most closely fills those requirements? Which candidate has only had one wife? Which candiate is more “temperate, self-controlled… not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome”? Which one has proven himself to be “not a lover of money”?
McCain’s lies about his philandering history are quite telling with regard to his character. His book claims he didn’t start his affair with Cindy until after he’d left his wife, yet the divorce papers show that to be untrue. Moreover, he lied about his age when he met Cindy. Now, I understand that horniness can cause a guy to shade the truth a bit, but McCain seems to too easily slip into dishonesty when dishonesty serves his immediate goals.
@31, thank you.
@32, it’s my right as a troll to twist a post’s point however I see fit.
BTW, are you saying any person who has an extramarital affair isn’t fit to hold office, or even hold a job? Are you some kind of religious nut, or something?
Let’s talk more about McSame’s family values…
What about the value of being a coward? This bitch made 30 – COUNT EM 30 fucking Propaganda for the VC!
He was a coward who caved in. What’s more, he violated an oath. Now he wants to take an oath to defend the US against all enemies foreign and domestic – why should we trust that since he regularly breaks his word?
He cheated on his disfigured wife, divorced her – and broke an oath.
He also violated Article V of the Military Code of Conduct. For all you chickenhawk right wingers out there let me show you what that says…
“When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause.”
So – he’s not got very good values if you ask me – or the families of service men who were killed, injured or captured as a result of his work on behalf of the enemy!
BTW, are you saying any person who has an extramarital affair isn’t fit to hold office, or even hold a job?
Did you see the title of the post idiot? How many people throw the lever for Republicans based on “family values”?
Just get it over with and vote for McSame fool.
Troll @ 39: “BTW, are you saying any person who has an extramariatal affair isn’t fit to hold office, or even hold a job?
Nope. That’s what Newt Gingrich said about Bill Clinton in 1998 (while Newt was having an affair with an aid in his office while still married to his 2nd wife). I’m just trying to figure out the rules here.
“Are you some kind of religious nut, or something?”
Guilty. If you’ve been following my posts over the past year or so, you would know that.
How Republicans hold power – one suppressed vote at a time:
The League of Women Voters estimate 21 million Americans do not have photo ID. They are in the crosshairs of the relentless Republican war on small d democracy.
http://tinyurl.com/6k2q6z
We can’t let these bastards get away with it!
If you had made last year as much money as John McCain spent on household help alone $273,000 — you’d be richer than 95% of American families. The median household income in the United States is $48,201 per year, meaning that John McCain spent over five times as much on servants as the typical household earns in an entire year.
But he was a POW!
25 MS
Please, never serve on a jury. You obviously cannot competently evaluate the evidence before you.
No. He says he’s still close to his first wife.
28 rhp
Then again, you’d think that a US Senator would know something about the economy, the difference between Sunni and Shia, that Pakistan and Iraq do not share a border, or cap-and-trade proposals, or that an economic stimulus package consists of government spending, or etc. etc. etc.
39 T
If I may…
I believe that what people are saying here is that many Republican evengelical or other Christian “values” voters DO care whether their candidate is or has been a lying, cheating sack of shit, and that they might care to re-evaluate their support for McCain in the light of him being one.
We Democrats, on the other hand, don’t believe that the fact that McCain is a lying, cheating sack of shit should disqualify him for high office, but rather that his plans to privatize Social Security and enlarge our budget deficits through self-serving tax cuts, along with his support for the Iraq War and his clear propensity toward also going to war with Iran, China and Russia (possibly simultaneously) DO.
rhp @ 26
You Lefties are sure ones to utter the words “court martial.” You’re the same ones who flip-flop on PLC* Wes Clark. One day, you’re accusing him of war crimes in Bosnia, the next you want him for VP with 0bama. Though “war criminal” would fit just fine with 0bama’s list of friends: domestic terrorist, convicted felon and so on. ( http://www.BarackBook.com )
* – PLC: Private, Low Class
48 TRM
Wes Clark isn’t running for president. He’s only something else to talk about instead of McCain’s violation of the UCMC, isn’t he? Why not defend McCain on the merits if he’s not liable for court martial? Or is all you have just a lot of pointing in a different direction?
Yeah, I thought so.
TRM @ 48: Boy, talk about an attempt at mis-direction!
I merely pointed out that McCain’s conduct as an adulterer (along with his anger issues) would disqualify him from serving as a deacon or overseer at my church, not to mention was a crime under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
So, according to the standards Republicans applied to Bill Clinton, then he should be removed from office (impeached as a Senator?) and forbidden from ever again holding public offic.
And your response is…. Wes Clark is accused by some as a war criminal?
Geez, try to keep up with the discussion, will you? At the rate this is going, it’s like one of the Smother’s Brother’s routines, where Tommy Smothers is flustered and eventually stammers “…bbbbbut, Mother always loved you best!”
@37, regarding 1 Tim. 3:2-5
I wasn’t aware that either McCain nor Obama were attempting to be elders in the local congregation?
And what about Exodus 21:22-23? Here it is clear that causing a woman to miscarry results in punishment. The Bible also states over and over that an increase of children are a blessing from God, and a lack of children is a curse from God (cp. Hosea 9:14).
Exodus 22:19
“Whoever lies with an animal shall surely be put to death.”
Something for you wing-nut goatfuckers to think about.
@52
Does calling people “wing-nut goatfuckers” make you any more right? Does it bring more people to your side of the issue?
Quite simply, what good does it do to call people names and use such language? Of the regular posters on this website, more than a few of them do just that, do nothing but call people names and offer no substance, no argument, and simply avoid and do not deal with the issues.
Why should we take you seriously?
http://www.obamacrimes.com/
Too early to be an October surprise, but. . .
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstmccain.com/
Too early to be an October surprise, but…
53 – Imagine, the “moral” man of “familiy values”, Larry Craig, devoted husband, professed Christian no doubt, staunch opponent of “special rights” for homosexuals..
rutting like a goat in a mens restroom stall.
Imagine yet another “moral” man with a wife, family, staunch upholder of traditional Christian values…Senator Vitter
defecating into a depends after being “changed” by his “mommy”, a DC prostitute.
Then the appellation “goatfucker” seems apropos, does it not?