Falwell That Ends Well
(An Ode To The Mortal Majority)

Reverend Falwell, fond farewell:
Your soul has fled its mortal shell
And flown across the great divide
To savor at your Savior’s side.
Or so you think… um… so you thought,
Well, so, at least, your Bible taught,
While unbelievers who deny
Eternal afterlife, like I,
Think when you’re dead, well, you just die.

But if, when I give up the fight,
I’m strangely drawn into the light?
And there your reverent form I see?
Don’t laugh sir, that the joke’s on me,
For since I’ve never claimed nor known
Your Savior Jesus as my own,
If you should meet this faithless Jew
In Heaven or in Hell’s review,
Well, either way… the joke’s on you.

Comments

  1. 1

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Damned little chance of meeting that guy in Heaven; so if you bump into him, Goldy, you’ll know you went to Hell for being a non-believer.

  2. 2

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I have no worries. The Mother Rabbit Spirit came to me in a dream last night and promised me I’ll never have to listen to that blowhard Falwell again. In fact, nobody will. She assured me he’s in a place where he’ll never bother anyone again. Her associate, the human God, tossed him into the biggest black hole She could find.

  3. 7

    Puddybud Who Left The Reservation spews:

    Cluelessman, you believe in the Rapture? You read L. Ron Hubbard?

    Amazing!

  4. 8

    Puddybud Who Left The Reservation spews:

    Voice of Chalk Scratching:

    Wow you attack every Jesus Christ believing Christian in that “poem”. Too bad the part of going to heaven when you is NOT TRUE.

    Makes you proud to be a Democrat when your friends write that crap right John Barelli? Makes your heart swell doesn’t it GBS? Brings a tear to your eye doesn’t it ArtFart?

  5. 10

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    you believe in the Rapture?

    NO I DON’T PUDDY. I’M AN ATHEIST. I HEAR A LOT OF CHRISTIANS DO BELIEVE THAT THOUGH.

  6. 11

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @9 Looks like I nailed it in #29 of the previous thread:

    Pudwiper began posting at 6:06 AM today and posted more or less continuously until 8:59 AM, then disappeared for two hours, and resumed posting at 11:00 AM and has been posting continuously since then. Therefore, it appears his work schedule is something like this:

    9:00 AM to 10:00 AM – commute to work
    10:00 AM to 11:00 AM – work 1 hour
    ll:00 AM to 2:00 PM – take 3-hour lunch
    2:00 PM to 3:00 PM – work 1 hour
    3:00 PM to 4:00 PM – commute to home

  7. 12

    Harry Tuttle aka Voter Advocate spews:

    Putty seems to think that anyone who reads his fairy tale must believe it. What a nut.

  8. 13

    spews:

    Puddinghead @8,

    And you attack every non-Christian when you insist that we are going to be tortured for all eternity (and deservedly so) simply because we do not believe what you believe.

  9. 14

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @10 I believe in the Rapture, and I can’t wait for it to get here!! 144,000 Republicans gone in a microsecond!! Not enough, but a good start.

  10. 15

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Hey puddy, I have BAD NEWS for you and your wingnut buddies — God is NOT on your side! She hates what you assholes are doing to this country. She told me so in a dream. And, man, are you traitors ever gonna pay when She gets Her hands on your souls.

  11. 16

    ArtFart spews:

    I’m not going to acknowledge that anyone presently crawling around on this rock is able to speak for God, and that included myself.

  12. 17

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    “Wolfowitz Negotiating Terms of His Departure

    “By JEANNINE AVERSA
    “AP

    “WASHINGTON (May 16) – Embattled World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz is negotiating an agreement to resign, according to an official familiar with the talks. …

    “The official said Wolfowitz wanted the bank to accept … responsibility for conflicts of interest cited against him by a special bank panel. … It was not clear whether the bank’s 24-member board would accept Wolfowitz’s terms.

    “Pressure on Wolfowitz to resign has grown since a bank panel report, released Monday, found that he broke conflict-of-interest rules in his handling of the 2005 pay package of [his girlfriend].”

    http://tinyurl.com/22wm3v

    Wolfie probably will get a comfy sinecure in the private sector. If he ends up with a company in my investment portfolio, I will immediately dump my shares. Nothing personal; just protecting my capital, as I would expect that company to get looted going forward.

  13. 18

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @16 I don’t speak for God, but I get inside information from the Mother Rabbit Spirit. =:-D

  14. 20

    david spews:

    We know absolutely nothing of what Mr. Falwell truly believed, only what he said he believed. Since he was not above telling lies in his sermons, there is no reason he couldn’t have been telling lies about his beliefs.

    Deep in his heart, he may have been an atheist, satanist, scientoligist or even a believer in J.Z. Knight. We will never know.

    So, we don’t know if he’s where he thought he would be. Hope whereever he is, he’s getting exactly what was coming to him.

  15. 21

    ArtFart spews:

    20 “Deep in his heart, he may have been an atheist, satanist, scientoligist or even a believer in J.Z. Knight.”

    Well, What the %$^&$!! do we know?

  16. 22

    Libertarian spews:

    One thing that always caught my attention with the Jew-haters was the fact that Jesus was a Jew himself. It would seem to me they are ignoring this little fact. If you hate Jews, wouldn’t it be logical to hate Jesus, too?

    Hmmm……..personally, I lean toward Wicca.

  17. 23

    Sam Adams spews:

    For a bunch of folks who are supposed to be tolerant and non-judgemental I sure am seeing a whole lot of exactly that.

    Yet you are critical of others who do the same.

    What’s up with that?

  18. 24

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Falwell was the poster boy for hypocrite assholes. And he stole the conservative wing of the Publican party. Now we see a national trend away from the influence of the so-called religious right and fruitcakes like Falwell and his blind followers like Puffybutt are perfect examples of what’s wrong with America and why we will eventually take all control from the Publicans.

  19. 26

    proud leftist spews:

    May his soul rest in peace. That said, the good Reverend Falwell did a great deal of harm to our nation. He promoted division between our citizens, profited from hate, and put an ugly face on Christianity. Does anyone actually believe the world is a better place because of Jerry Falwell’s existence?

  20. 27

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Sammy@23 who says we’re supposed to be tolerant? Must be a talking point you heard from Limpdick Limbaugh. And we’re just following your lead…and the lead of asswipes like Falwell who blamed Katrina and 9.11 on his political enemies. You just don’t like it that most of us are willing to fight back now. In the old days, you and your ilk were the typical bully. You’d run your mouth and get Dems to back down. Now we’re coming at you with some of your own medicine and you can’t handle it – too bad. Fuck you.

  21. 28

    Puddybud Who Left the Reservation spews:

    Scratch Voice wrote: Puddinghead @8, And you attack every non-Christian when you insist that we are going to be tortured for all eternity (and deservedly so) simply because we do not believe what you believe.

    The Bible does not teach that Scratchy. Please tell me where I said that Scratchy! I’ll Wait.

    You do know how to create SQL search statements?

  22. 29

    Puddybud Who Left the Reservation spews:

    Hey PelletHead: I’m glad you are watching my posts. It means you are bored.

    Why not give your boredom to charity. Union Gospel Mission can even use someone like you!

  23. 30

    Sam Adams spews:

    RightEqualsStupid says: Sammy@23 who says we’re supposed to be tolerant? Must be a talking point you heard from Limpdick Limbaugh. And we’re just following your lead…and the lead of asswipes like Falwell who blamed Katrina and 9.11 on his political enemies. You just don’t like it that most of us are willing to fight back now. In the old days, you and your ilk were the typical bully. You’d run your mouth and get Dems to back down. Now we’re coming at you with some of your own medicine and you can’t handle it – too bad. Fuck you. 05/16/2007 at 3:26 pm

    This is wrong in so many ways.

    Fuck me? Why thank you, I didn’t think you cared.

  24. 31

    David spews:

    artfart@21,

    I wasn’t trying to be weird about it. No one knows what anyone is thinking when they are praying; See My favorite Mark Twain piece for a case in point.

    Mr. Falwell had a finacial empire going. Even if he had converted to worshipping feet or something, do you think he’d let that get in the way of money?

  25. 32

    Puddybud Who Left the Reservation spews:

    Stupidman: Read these words FOR THE LAST TIME

    I was NEVER a follower of Falwell. I never accepted his teachings, like I never accept your vile pukings here.

    Can you comprehend?

  26. 34

    proud leftist spews:

    Puddy at 32
    Your disavowal of Jerry Falwell is too easy. Both politically and theologically, you seem to be a kindred spirit of his. Is it that you just didn’t like his looks or some such thing?

  27. 35

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    If Puffybutt’s lips are moving – he’s lying. He sucked Falwell’s dick he loved him so much.

  28. 38

    makesenseofit spews:

    I am curious how Jerry was able to correspond with his parents earlier in his life when his father was an atheist.
    Jerry must have had some tremendous hardships by trying his
    obsession to turn the society in which his father lived into
    believers rather than demons.
    Another example of how a person lives their life through their personality of becoming someone opposite than inflicton or an early life experience that inflicts pain and retribution.

  29. 40

    Puddybud Who Left the Reservation spews:

    Proud Leftist: I’ll answer you.

    Teach voice of Chalk Scratching how to perform an SQL search on a combination of Puddybud and Jerry Falwell. You will find every post I specifically detest the man.

    No matter what you and your Stupidman little brother “claim”, I never liked the man.

  30. 41

    Puddybud Who Left the Reservation spews:

    ArtFart: Since #35 neverr happened except in the germ-infested virus laden mind of Stupidman, you now see what undiagnosed and untreated syphilis does to Stupidman!

    Sometimes I wonder if he is spawn of Al Capone!

  31. 42

    Puddybud Who Left the Reservation spews:

    Looks like I see where Stupidman gets his guidance and motivation. Wikipedia.

    Notice what was written in the heading. And you thought Stupidman thinks for himself? Hell no. He needs help with that idiot savant IQ.

    http://tinyurl.com/3e2dbh

  32. 44

    proud leftist spews:

    Puddy @ 40
    “You will find every post I specifically detest the man.”

    You didn’t answer me at all. I’m not contending you ever said anything favorable about Rev. Falwell. I’m saying virtually every religious and political view you have expressed is entirely consistent with those that he expressed. So, I’m figuring the reason you didn’t like him had to be something other than ideological or theological disagreement. Perhaps you didn’t like his tailor?

  33. 46

    spews:

    you know goldy, your little poem puts you in the same category as fred phelps….
    gosh, and it seems so familiar somehow. hmmm…what could it be? a ghost from king5 forum perhaps?
    you are such a GIRL…….

  34. 48

    Harry Tuttle aka Voter Advocate spews:

    Do these righties stretch for points? Is the Pope Catholic?

    Fred Phelps, give me a break.

  35. 49

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Holy shit guys…. did you see the article in today’s seattle times that the girlz can’t afford condos in downtown Seattle? How the fuck can that be in the feminist utopia of Seattle?

    Clearly it’s time for a dick tax. I figure $500 per inch is about right. Even rabbit can come up with a thousand bucks to help the poooor girls of FUSeattle.

    LMAO…

  36. 51

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    I never got an answer to my question of a couple of days ago.

    Is there anything you guys believe in that isn’t based on hate, envy and greed?

    Do tell…

  37. 52

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    Is there anything you guys believe in that isn’t based on hate, envy and greed?

    WELL I BELIEVE IF SOMEONE CHALLENGES ANOTHER PERSON TO A BET AND THAT SOMEONE LOSES, THEN THAT SOMEONE SHOULD HONOR THE WAGER.

    I.E. PAY THE FUCKING GAMBLING DEBT YOU OWE TO GOLDY.

    AND SINCE NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR STOOPID RANTS, GTFO!

  38. 53

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    I never got an answer to my question of a couple of days ago.

    NO ONE SHOULD ANSWER ANY OF YOUR STOOPID, FUCKING QUESTIONS UNTIL YOU PAY YOUR GAMBLING DEBT.

    AND NOT EVEN THEN.

  39. 54

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    I never got an answer to my question of a couple of days ago.

    Is there anything you Publicans believe in that isn’t based on hate, envy and greed?

    Do tell…

  40. 56

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @23 “Sam Adams says: For a bunch of folks who are supposed to be tolerant and non-judgemental I sure am seeing a whole lot of exactly that. Yet you are critical of others who do the same. What’s up with that?”

    Why should we tolerate wingnuts? Give one me good reason.

  41. 57

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @29 “Hey PelletHead: I’m glad you are watching my posts. It means you are bored.”

    Yeah, not much action on this board … nobody here except me, my liberal friends, and some brain-dead wingnuts. I’ve seen livelier ossuaries.

  42. 60

    Broadway Joe spews:

    I’m just glad he’s gone. He helped divide a nation when it needed to be united the most. By the way, great poem Goldy.

  43. 62

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @49 Leave it to Redneck to propose a dick tax of $500 an inch, so he can get away with paying only 50 cents.

  44. 63

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    China Floods U.S. With Dangerous Counterfeit Products

    “By LORI MATSUKAWA / KING 5 News

    “Medicine, electronics, even toys are being faked … [s]ome diabetic strips looked so real to legitimate stores they ended up on shelves nationwide. …

    “Counterfeit toys can present serious choking hazards or be painted with toxic chemicals … fake light bulbs and humidifier components often come complete with forged electrical safety certification.

    “Most of the products are coming from china. …

    “Aside from health risk, there’s other fallout from the fake frenzy. According to the U.S. Chamber of commerce, an estimated 750,000 jobs have already been lost because of counterfeiting.”

    Quoted under Fair Use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://tinyurl.com/39ykk7

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: China. The same assholes who ran over pro-democracy demonstrators in Tianamen Square with tanks. Who imprison dissidents and torture political prisoners. Their latest export to the U.S.: Plasticized human bodies (very likely of executed prisoners). Why the fuck do we give these commies the time of day?

    Because our commie-loving corporations are rushing to ship American jobs to China, that’s why. Because our commie-loving president is shipping our national debt to China to pay for his tax-cuts-for-billionaires and welfare-for-mercenaries and no-bid-contracts-for-swift-boaters, that’s why. Because the commie-loving, union-busting, Republican-hugging, Medicaid-freeloading, biggest-big-box-retailer-in-the-world gets 95% of its merchandise from China, that’s why.

    Fucking traitors, all of ‘em.

  45. 64

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    What CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVES Did to the Airline Industry

    “As Pay Falls, Airlines Struggle to Fill Jobs

    “By MELANIE TROTTMAN and SUSAN CAREY, The Wall Street Journal

    “Wrestling suitcases on and off planes got so grueling late last year for Southwest Airlines Co.’s 350 ramp workers in Chicago that by Christmas season one-fourth of them were reporting on-the-job injuries. Starting pay for the position: $8.75 an hour.

    “Airlines used to offer prestigious jobs with good wages and coveted … benefits. Now, … airline jobs are more akin to those at a fast-food restaurant. The pay is low, the work is tough and, … airlines are having trouble hanging onto workers and finding new ones.

    “‘What once was a glamorous job … doesn’t look so good any more,’ says Andy Roberts, executive vice president of operations for Northwest Airlines Corp. Mr. Roberts says Northwest and its peers used to have a list of applicants ‘as long as your arm.’ Now, ‘we have to go seek them out, even pilots.’

    “That’s not good news for passengers, as the combination of fewer and less experienced workers is causing more service problems. Planes sit on tarmacs because airlines are short on gate workers. Service on planes is slower because many airlines are flying with fewer flight attendants. When bad weather hits, tight staffing may mean more delays or canceled flights. …

    The U.S. airline industry is profitable today in part because … carriers shed … 170,000 workers, or 38% of the total, between August 2001 and October 2006, according to the Air Transport Association. … Pay has fallen, sometimes substantially.

    “Capt. Gene Malone, a 56-year-old pilot for … American Airlines, says his annual pay dropped … after the airline won concessions to stay out of bankruptcy. … He plans to retire early in about 18 months. ‘An airline career is not worth it anymore,’ says Capt. Malone. ‘It’s a very different profession than it was 23 years ago when I started.’

    “When … United Airlines decided … to bring back pilots who were furloughed during the downturn, most didn’t want to come back, says Capt. Steve Derebey, a spokesman for the pilots union. ‘It takes 10 letters to get one back,’ he says. UAL … acknowledges having a hard time recruiting … workers in … locations where unemployment is low and the cost of living is high. …

    “Pamela Lopez-Lewis, a Northwest flight attendant for 28 years, says she started working a second job as a bartender 18 months ago to make up for … a $15,000 drop in pay imposed by the airline …. ‘Everybody is reaching their breaking point,’ she says of her colleagues. ‘Morale is so low. You’ve been insulted by the pay you’re getting. You’re not feeling happy. I absolutely think it affects service. Apathy prevails.’ Mr. Roberts, the Northwest executive vice president, says: ‘Morale is certainly severely tested. It’s hard to keep people enthused.’ …

    “Last year, 22.6% of flights were late, the highest percentage since 2000, according to the U.S. Department of Transportation. … In March of this year, passenger complaints about U.S. airlines nearly doubled from the same month a year earlier …. That same month, the rate of mishandled baggage rose nearly 33% from a year earlier at the largest 20 carriers, says the department. …

    “Ground operations are among the most acutely affected by the airlines’ cutbacks. Troy Bacon, a ramp agent in Atlanta for Delta Air Lines Inc., says he has seen a shortage of drivers to transport luggage at the international terminal during weekends, which contributes to baggage delays. … Mr. Gordon of the machinists union said Northwest is having difficulty hiring and retaining qualified employees in expensive cities such as Boston and New York. In Minneapolis, where the airline has a hub, ‘you can hire on the ramp for $9 an hour’ and work bad shifts out in the cold weather, or ‘you can work inside a Target for $11,’ he said. Northwest confirms that it is having hiring difficulties in some places. …

    “Yesterday, the University of Michigan released its American Customer Satisfaction Index. … Airlines fared worse, by nine points, than the federal government and even lagged by two points the Internal Revenue Service.”

    Quoted under Fair Use; for complete article and/or copyright info, see http://tinyurl.com/2dym5h, or kiss Rupert Murdoch’s ass!*

    * Thanks for the $5,000 profit, Rupert! Enjoy your new shares of Dow Jones & Co. It was a pleasure doing business with you. Feel free to call on me again when you want to buy another company.

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Hey all you cheap-labor Ayn Rand toe suckers! How d’ya like the FREE MARKET? I got a little quiz for ya:

    What do you get when you pay workers crappy wages, work ‘em to death, and treat ‘em like shit?

    [ ] 1. High turnover
    [ ] 2. Low morale
    [ ] 3. Poor performance
    [ ] 4. Incompetence, screw ups, & failures
    [ ] 5. Crappy customer service
    [ ] 6. Unhappy employees
    [ ] 7. Angry customers
    [ ] 8. Lousy public image
    [ ] 9. All of the above

    And these CHEAP-LABOR cocksuckers want the U.S. airline industry to be a model for the rest of the U.S. economy …

  46. 65

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    John Edwards got it right — what the U.S. needs is MORE UNIONS, and a pro-organized-labor federal government. The sooner we elect someone like him, the quicker we can consign the CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVES to the ash heap of history. They belong in the same garbage can as all the rest of history’s failed ideologies — royalism, colonialism, fascism, Stalinism …

  47. 66

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Guess what? Back when flight crews made decent money and had pensions, airlines served in-flight meals, flights arrived on time, and you could straighten your legs without kicking another passenger in the nuts … airlines MADE A PROFIT.

    Now that they’re doing everything on the cheap, flying sucks, and they’re all in bankruptcy.

  48. 67

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Illinois has issued a gun permit to a 10-month-old child.

    The state patrol said the child is entitled to the permit because he isn’t a felon and the state doesn’t have an age restriction on gun ownership.

  49. 68

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Two More GOP Senators Say Gonzales Should Leave

    “WASHINGTON (May 17) – Attorney General Alberto Gonzales came under renewed pressure Wednesday, as two more Republican senators came out against him and Democrats challenged his truthfulness about President Bush’s no-warrant eavesdropping program.

    “The developments revived a debate over Gonzales’ fitness to head the Justice Department a day after a former deputy attorney general recounted a dramatic hospital bedside confrontation between Gonzales and his predecessor, John Ashcroft. … Democrats said his testimony appeared to contradict Gonzales’ account in February 2006, when he told two congressional panels that there had ‘not been any serious disagreement about the program.’ …

    “Citing Comey’s testimony, Nebraska Sen. Chuck Hagel … became the fourth Republican senator to call for Gonzales’ resignation. … Republicans who have urged his ouster include Sens. John Sununu of New Hampshire, Tom Coburn of Oklahoma and John McCain of Arizona, and House GOP Conference Chairman Adam Putnam, R-Fla.

    “Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., … said Wednesday that Gonzales should consider stepping down. Gonzales has been the target of similar barbs by Republican Sens. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania and Gordon Smith of Oregon. …

    “Meanwhile, congressional committees raised the pressure on Gonzales. The House Judiciary Committee announced that Monica Goodling, Gonzales’ White House liason who played a major role in the prosecutor firings, would testify May 23 under a grant of immunity.

    “Across the Capitol Wednesday Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy threatened to issue more subpoenas if the White House does not cooperate with his probe of whether … White House aides, including … Karl Rove, sought to improperly influence federal investigations and prosecutions.

    “In response to an earlier subpoena from Leahy, the Justice Department on Wednesday released nine pages of e-mails that included Rove among the recipients. … Rove was using an e-mail address with the Internet domain name ‘georgewbush.com’ to receive messages about the fired prosecutors, the documents show. …

    “But it was Gonzales’ role in the scene at Ashcroft’s bedside that prompted new suggestions that he step down.”

    Quoted under Fair Use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://tinyurl.com/2ldveb

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Investigative journalist Greg Palast set up a web site called “georgewbush.org” and received 500 e-mails intended for “georgewbush.com” — some of which had incriminating “caging lists” attached. The caging lists were part of a far-flung GOP operation to bar black voters from voting, which is a felony under the 1965 Voting Rights Act. Consequently, the e-mails that stupid GOP operatives sent to Palast’s in-box constitute criminal evidence.

    To date, the furor over Gonzales has focused on his false testimony to Congress about Bush’s unconstitutional wiretapping program and the U.S. Attorney firings. Neither the media nor Congress has yet focused on Gonzales’ role in Rove’s illegal black voter suppression operation, but that will come when Goodling testifies.

    I predict Goodling will tell the truth about what she knows in order to save her own ass. She’s a young, impressionable, thirty-something who was somewhat awestruck by being put in a high position at Justice and being a big-time power broker — but now she’s scared as hell of not only losing her license to practice law, and having her livelihood and reputation destroyed, but also of going to prison. For there’s no doubt she participated in the commission of crimes … and she knows perfectly well she did. That’s why she got a high-powered defense attorney, took the Fifth Amendment, and bargained for immunity.

    Congress gave her immunity, and now the scared kid is going to spill what she knows. And she knows a lot. Probably enough to put Karl Rove in a defendant’s dock. Maybe enough to impeach Bush.

    For there’s no doubt about what Bush, Rove, Gonzo, Goodling, and their minions were up to: They intended to steal our government by hijacking elections and imposing what amounts to a rightwing dictatorship on America.

    But Goodling, as John Dean did 35 years ago, has the power to bring this evil regime down. And I’m betting she will do it, just as John Dean did. After the dust settles, she will be very, very remorseful for her role in this sordid affair. And her future is assured, for she will get a very, very big book contract.

    She’ll never have to perform the menial labor of practicing law again. Eat your heart out, Richard Pope. You sold your own soul to the Republicans for a pittance. Too bad you didn’t do a better job of sucking up so you could become a trusted lackey like Goodling and trade your integrity for a book deal that’s take care of you for life. All you traded your integrity for was free posting privileges on Horseass.org.

    Hell, I’ve got that, and I didn’t even have to trade my soul for it.

  50. 69

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    What will it take to impeach Bush? Not, as many of my liberal friends believe, a continuing litany of outrages. There are already plenty of outrages, but they haven’t been enough.

    No, what it will take is at least 16 Republican Senators wanting a sitting president of their own party gone. Without them, no House impeachment resolution means anything. If you don’t have 67 Senate votes — forget it. It would be worse than a fruitless exercise; the media and much of the public would interpret it as a vindication of Bush, much as the ill-conceived Clinton impeachment turned out to be.

    Is it possible to get 16 Republican Senators to oust Bush?

    Yes, I think so. For two primary reasons. First, some would sacrifice one of their own to save themselves and their party. Second, even though we disagree with them on many things, some of the GOP senators care enough about the constitution, law, and principle to put doing the right thing above party loyalty if they decide Bush’s offenses are egregious enough.

    They are, but they have to be proved. At this point, the most serious charges against Bush are viewed by both the media and Republican members of Congress as partisan attacks. They need to be backed up, not only by solid evidence, but also by the clout of credible institutions. We can talk ourselves blue in the face on blogs, but what it will take to bring 16 GOP Senators to the conclusion that a president of their party has violated his oath of office and the Constitution and the laws of the land to such an extent as to compel his removal will be congressional hearings, major media editorials, and a public outcry for his ouster. That could come — if the evidence is fed into congressional hearings, and the bricks of the Bush-Rove House of Lies fall, one by one.

    It will be a gradual process, like a middle-aged man who thought he was healthy and fit learning from his doctor that he has cancer. Acceptance doesn’t come immediately; it takes a little while. Agreement to the treatment is something he has to think about. But when he realizes his very life is on the line, he’ll come around, and accept the reality of his situation, albeit reluctantly and unhappily.

    So it will be with the GOP senators. They will hesitate; they will be truculent; but when the reality of what has happened to their party and our country sinks in, they’ll swallow the bitter pill. I believe the votes eventually will be there, but the process must run its course, and everything has its own season.

  51. 70

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Bush is not only the Worst.President.Ever, but is on his way to becoming the most unpopular president ever.

  52. 74

    Puddybud Who Left the Reservation spews:

    PelletHead: I agree with you on airlines to a point. As a constant flier of airlines I vew the lost efficiencies first hand. I stopped flying one airline because of lousy service and chose another. They tried to woo me back until I just told them they sucked. I should have stayed cuz now my neighbor gets his ass kissed all the time by them now.

    But PelletHead, the airline industry flipped their giving from Moonbat! to Neocon when the Moonbat!s lost congress in 1994. They have no favorites, just who is in control. Now I see Continental has started their flip-flop back to Moonbat! If you researched it instead of cut and pasting you’d find this out.

    Since you sit on your “furry” ass all day, tell me what you find. I’ll leave my tab open with the numbers. I won’t perform the due diligence since you have nothing to do all day.

    BTW PelletHead, how is you back doing?

  53. 75

    Puddybud Who Left the Reservation spews:

    PelletHead regarding flight attendants being overworked: Their UNION makes sure they only fly a certain number of hours. On a delayed flight we had to wait for another full crew because the crew aged out for the day!

    Regarding Pay: Let me ask all you Moonbat!s a question, are you willing to pay 50% or more for attendants, pilots, and ground workers to get better pay?

    Think about it!

  54. 76

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    RE: CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVES

    I’M READING RICK PERLSTEIN’S BOOK ABOUT BARRY GOLDWATER. IT’S AN EXCELLENT HISTORY OF THE ORIGINS OF THE POST-WWII CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT.

    IT’S FUNNY THAT GOLDWATER WAS THE HEIR TO A FAMILY FORTUNE. WHEN GROWING UP IF HE WANTED SOMETHING HE COULD WALK INTO ANY STORE IN PHOENIX AND CHARGE IT TO HIS FATHER. HE DROPPED OUT OF COLLEGE BECAUSE HE DIDN’T LIKE IT. HIS GRANDFATHER AND FATHER BUILT THE FAMILY BUSINESS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF FEDERAL CONTRACTS AND THE BOOM IN GOVERNMENT SPENDING DURING THE NEW DEAL. IF IT WASN’T FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THERE WOULD BE NO GOLDWATER FAMILY FORTUNE.

    THIS IS IN TOTAL CONTRADICTION TO THE RUGGED INDIVIDUALIST MYTHS GOLDWATER SPUN ABOUT HIMSELF AND HIS FAMILY.

    GOLDWATER MARRIED AN HEIRESS TO THE WARNER-BORG FORTUNE IN INDIANA. GOLDWATER WAS SO OBSESSED WITH KEEPING A UNION OUT OF THE FAMILY BUSINESS, HE USED THE INTEREST FROM HIS WIFE’S TRUST FUND TO SUBSIDIZE A SUPERIOR BENEFITS PACKAGE FOR THE BUSINESS’ WORKERS.
    SO WHENEVER THE WORD “FREEDOM” FELL FROM HIS MOUTH, IT’S MOSTLY “FREEDOM” FROM DEALING WITH A UNION HE WAS TALKING ABOUT. HE MADE HIS MARK IN THE SENATE AND WITH OTHER LIKE-MINDED IDEOLOGUES BY PUSHING A STAUNCH ANTI-UNION AGENDA.

    THE EARLY FUNDERS OF POST-WWII CONSERVATISM WERE MOSTLY FAMILY-OWNED MANUFACTURING BUSINESSES – THE KOHLERS OF WISCONSIN, ROBERT WELSH IN MASSACHUSSETTS, ROBERT MILIKEN OF SOUTH CAROLINA, ETC..

    IT WAS ALL ABOUT CHEAP LABOR AND TAXES TO THESE PEOPLE. SO WHAT’S THE RESULT OF THIS MOVEMENT? CORPORATIONS HAVE STEADILY CONTRIBUTED LESS AND LESS A PERCENTAGE OF FEDERAL TAX RECEIPTS. HERE’S THE BIG PICTURE. INDIVIDUALS PAY THE LION’S SHARE OF FEDERAL TAXES. AND OF COURSE, THE LARGEST TAX CUTS SINCE WWII HAVE GONE TO THE WEALTHIEST FROM 90 PERCENT TO WHERE IT IS TODAY.

    CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVES HAVE MOVED MANUFACTURING JOBS FIRST TO RIGHT-TO-WORK STATES, THEN TO MEXICO AND NOW TO CHINA.

    THE CHEAP LABOR MANIA HAS PRODUCED THE ANTI-IMMIGRATION MANIA. WE WOULDN’T HAVE AS MUCH OF A PROBLEM WITH ILLEGAL LABOR IF CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVES IN THIS COUNTRY DIDN’T HIRE THEM. PEOPLE ARE ANGRY AT IMMIGRANTS TAKING THEIR JOBS AND THE ROLE OF THE CHEAP LABOR EMPLOYERS ARE ALMOST ALWAYS AN AFTERTHOUGHT.

  55. 78

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    74 & 75

    Puddinghead, I don’t give a rap if the airlines donate money to the party I support; they still suck. I read a new story a couple weeks ago that said a new airline called SkyBus plans to offer $10 seats between Columbus, Ohio, and Bellingham. If their business plan is to get stewardesses to pay THEM for the privilege of serving coffee and candies to the passengers, offering $10 fares won’t change the fact their business plan sucks from the employees’ point of view.

    Should ramp workers be paid more than $9 an hour for working night shifts, swing shifts, split shifts, weekend shifts, holiday shifts, snow shifts, summer heat shifts? Let’s put it this way. I wouldn’t take the job, and I’ll bet you wouldn’t either.

    Should planes be staffed with 3 cabin attendants for 130 to 150 passengers? Not a problem on the hop from here to Spokane; but if that’s what the service is on the Chicago to L.A. run, I can understand why algore flies on private jets and I can’t understand why the Dingbats! would criticize him for seeking a more comfortable ride than what the airlines offer.

    You get what you pay for.

  56. 79

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @76 The prolonged and bitter Kohler strike is still legendary in Wisconsin, which is progressive country; and Robert Welch went on to found the John Birch society, and I had the privilege of meeting him in person — with an anti-Bircher picket sign in my hand — as a young teenage rabbit. In fact, that was my very first demonstration, and my encounter with Welch is what launched my long career of political activism.

  57. 80

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @76 “THE CHEAP LABOR MANIA HAS PRODUCED THE ANTI-IMMIGRATION MANIA.”

    Ironic, isn’t it, that we’re flooded with immigrants (and Bush won’t stop them) because the CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVES want them here so they don’t have to hire American workers and pay them American wages.

  58. 81

    spews:

    all roger all the time says “Why should we tolerate wingnuts? Give one me good reason.”

    this is how stupid you really are roger…and why you are such a bore on here.
    you should tolerate “wingnuts” because that’s what tolerance is you COMPLETE IDIOT! you have tolerance for everyone, not just the people that you like or who are like you.
    typical lefty….doesn’t even know the meaning of tolerance…if you just “tolerate” the people who are like you then it isn’t tolerance. god…you are so stupid it is mind boggling!
    i’ll bet you don’t get compassion or empathy anymore than goldy does either………
    you two are so alike………..hmmmmmmmm…….

  59. 82

    Right Stuff spews:

    Roger Rabbit says:

    @76 “THE CHEAP LABOR MANIA HAS PRODUCED THE ANTI-IMMIGRATION MANIA.”

    Ironic, isn’t it, that we’re flooded with immigrants (and Bush won’t stop them) because the CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVES want them here so they don’t have to hire American workers and pay them American wages.

    05/17/2007 at 11:12 am

    The much bigger problem that immediately affects RR and many retired SS recipients is…….
    Many illegals work under stolen or dulplicate SS numbers…..So if the US were to deport all of those folks, there is a big $$$ of SS funding that goes away…
    Now congress is already in the s**t house when it comes to funding SS everyyear, add the lost funds from the illegal workers……In a nutshell the $$$ taxe number is overstated due to the illegal work force.

    Neither party is addressing this issue.

  60. 83

    Puddybud Who Left The Reservation spews:

    PelletHead: Did you know if an illegal started claiming benefits under your SS number there is no law to stop them when you go to make your claim? Nancy Pelosi has been blocking immigration reform for a long time.

  61. 84

    Sam Adams spews:

    “Roger Rabbit says: @23 “Sam Adams says: For a bunch of folks who are supposed to be tolerant and non-judgemental I sure am seeing a whole lot of exactly that. Yet you are critical of others who do the same. What’s up with that?”

    Why should we tolerate wingnuts? Give one me good reason.”

    Besides the most obvious one that you claim to have a “big tent” and carry the banner of tolerance and understanding?

    It’s sad, but between BOTH sides’ hidden agendas and in-your-face “advocates” those who seek fair treatment and tolerance get neither.

  62. 85

    Ron Stout spews:

    If I didn’t have to die to be there I’d love to be present when reverend Foulball faces his maker and answers the questions:
    What part of “judge not lest ye be judged” didn’t you understand?
    How do you reconcile your support of wars and executions with the “thou shalt not kill”commandment.
    You said the lord would return to earth in your lifetime.WRONG!

  63. 86

    Sam Adams spews:

    Ron Stout says:………..You said the lord would return to earth in your lifetime….”

    Did Falwell actually say that?

    In HIS lifetime?

    Opps!