What are some of the conversations you are likely to hear at the Montlake Ale House tonight? Let’s see…
- Gregoire vetoes the medical-marijuana bill
- The first poll of the 2012 gubernatorial election is out
- OBL is dead
- And Rep. Dennis Kucinich is coming to Washington State?!?
So please join us tonight for an evening of politics under the influence at the Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally. We meet at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. Starting time is 8:00 pm, but feel free to join some of us for an earlier dinner.
Not in Seattle? There is a good chance you live near one of the 223 other chapters of Drinking Liberally.
re Kucinich and the alien ship: Just say: ‘Kla tu barada nic-to!!’
http://www.hulu.com/watch/1260.....rada-nikto
Alan Greyson would be my choice for carpetbagger.
Now for the fun at Drinking Libtardly… OOPSIE…
Panetta Admits Waterboarding Works
BRIAN WILLIAMS: “Can you confirm that it was as a result of waterboadring that we learned what we needed to learn to go after Bin Laden?”
LEON PANETTA: “Clearly some of it came from detainees and the advanced interrogation of detainees…”
BRIAN WILLIAMS: “Are you saying that waterboarding was in part among the tactics used to extract the intelligence that led to this successful mission.”
LEON PANETTA: “I think some of the detainees, uh, clearly, uh, they used these advanced interrogation techniques against some of these detainees.”
BRIAN WILLIAMS: “So finer point, one final time, that includes waterboarding?”
LEON PANETTA: “That is correct.”
There goes the latest exploding HA liberal heads in their beer.
What will the drinking fools think about tonight?
Yes Pigs Do Fly!
So much for that post of rujax yesterday. Even Pelosi knew Bush was doing a deflection back in 2002. rujax and ylb still don’t!
rujax and ylb… They are the best that HA has to present!
And compare Pelosi with that classless trash Palin:
http://blog.seattlepi.com/seat.....rah-palin/
I definitely credit Bush with playing a role in the killing of bin Laden.
Bush told the CIA briefer in August 2004, “ok you covered your ass”.. and went back to his vacy from all the “hard work” of cutting taxes for the rich.
A month later the planes flew into the towers.
10 years later after two wars were startd, trillions flushed down the toilet, and an ocean of blood was spilled, bin Laden was killed on the orders of President Obama.
Puddy
Are you that desperate?
Other than the goofball right, I have not heard anyone using this this to damn Bush.
While you are at it, giving former Presidents’ credit for their roles in this May 1st event, how about giving Jimmy Carter credit for restructuring the American military around exactly this kind of special ops? Or do you think we used one of Raygun’s revivified battle ships or Bushies’s starwars defense missiles in Pakistan?
Or fi you really want, you could give Clinton credit .. it was HIS special ops teams that made Afghanistan I such a success. Ooops … after using Clinton’s special ops, Bush did what? Ohhh .. he sent a massive landforce into Iraq, costing us about $3,000,000,000,000 for ??????????????
Puddybud is having a “flashback” from his Jared Loughner nervous breakdown – the one where he hallucinated “ghost comments” into my database.
SJ,
Apparently you missed the rujax and ylb thread.
Notice the contrite ASSeffect words of ylb@6. Then go back and read the thread Osama thread. IT was Bush sucks all through the thread SJ.
Yeah? And they got what from 1997- January 2001? Nothing SJ.
Where is this “resurrection of special ops teams” by Jimmae Cahhhhhhhhhhrter?
Good try dude. Everyone admits it was enhanced interrogation techniques!
Jared Loughner yelling loser boy? That leftist pinhead? I am keeping the Bin Laden thread and your asinine commentary for a long time!
Been sitting here reviewing the Bin Laden thread… Once you get past the mindless rants of the mindless ranters here is the conclusion to the matter…
I applaud Obama for ordering the kill of Osama. But when Obama was a senator and later in 2007 when he started his presidential candidate run he screamed harsh interrogation techniques were not his forte and would end them. Then later as president he attacked the harsh interrogation techniques and made a big stink over the executive order to close Guantanamo Bay.
Butt I distinctly remember all those attacks on Bush and Cheney, other Republicans and many conservatives with speech after speech over harsh interrogation techniques and now he wants to be applauded when he used the evidence and findings of those techniques to find and kill Osama Bin Laden.
Obama used all the evidence from the tactics you leftist pinheads claimed were very wrong. Protest after protest and the slobbering leftist media went along. Obama illegaly invaded Pakistan, ordered a targeted assassination, all from harsh interrogation evidence. These are all the same tactics Obama used to attack Bush and Republicans to become president.
So with Obama’s own words since 2007, your HA leftist arguments against Bush since the start of this blog in 2004, Obama carried out the same illegal actions you all been screaming here about Republicans and conservatives.
I never expect HA leftist pinheads to ever be consistent in their mindless rants especially the fools with three four and five letter monikers.
To lefties only their ends justify any means possible. If a conservative did this you’d be screaming into your goats!
I stand by my comments. EIT should only be used when there is eminent danger to US Citizens. There was!
Since I didn’t vote for McCain, and if he was president and he ordered the killing of Bin Laden, I would commend him too. Remember McCain was against EIT. He called it torture.
No the Jared Loughner who did helpful reading to qualify for Paul Ryan’s staff w/ a dash of kooky goldbug stuff thrown in.
Shooting someone to Ryan’s left in the freaking head helped helped seal the right wing credentials to boot.
Once again all can see just how stupid yelling loser boy is. Jared Loughner was one of yours moron! This was proven throughout all the media!
11 – ZZZZZZzzzzzzZZZZzzzzzzz…
REPEAT….
Sorry for what??? For Bush sucking then and Bush sucking now???
Bush sucks always and forever period.
Notice his ASS was handed to him on Bin Laden and enhanced interrogation techniques he brings back Jared Loughner.
Sucks to be a leftist like yelling loser boy. His exploding head is all over this blog and in his databaze. Puddy bets the 34388 will disappear from the yelling loser boy databaze!
What a moron!
See SJ,
ylb is at his best…
Great job GWBush. yelling loser boy demonstrates his BDS! Glad you and Richard Cheney saved our country by making the hard decisions!
17 – just the truth.. You can return now to your feckless ODS..
Sorry pud, but the Bush/Cheney Iraq adventure has bankrupted this counrtry with no benefit to our security. As I have said before their initial move in Afganistan was correct and well played, then they blew it. This could have been done long ago and our nation would be in a much better place.
Obama got Osama.
ANd your juvenile rants have become tedious.
Pffffftt.. Quote a transcript from NBC News next time.
I don’t trust right wing bullshit sites.
How much asshole?
They became tedious about 1 or 2 weeks into May 2005 and I’m being REALLY GENEROUS there..
Sorry K, I was talking about KSM and al-Libbi! You delivered Iraq. Why the deflection from KSM and al-Libbi and enhanced interrogation techniques? Afghanistan is something else.
Ahhh @21 is upset.
LMBBAO!
24 – zzzzzZZZZZZzzzzzzz…
In your fantasies… Bored is the truth.
was my commentary about you and your silly ASS.
YOU CAN’T THINK OF ANYTHING ORIGINAL, EVER!
LMBBAO.
Wrong about the Bin Laden evidence.
Take the test fool!
yelling loser boy BDS is very evident!
I am reacting to your praise of the Bush Cheney approach, [ud, and I stand by it. If they had retained thier focus this would have been over long ago. They did a poor job and left Obama the mess. You make a broad statement about Bush saving the countrry, I provide a clear case disagreeing and you call names. good for you.
And Andrew Sullivan, no left wing tool, disagrees with you:
http://andrewsullivan.thedaily.....ly+Dish%29
Andrew Sullivan is a left wing tool K
WikiPedia
Corrected!
Yes I agree.
Redelivered!
Two words – YOU SUCK!
Two words – BDS Syndrome
Two words – You Lose
Life asks to choose between reality and bullshit.
I chose reality. I passed the “test”.
YOU FAILED!
Guilty as charged. Happily even.
That’s your department.
Well I wouldn’t be quite that hard on yourself. It’s the right wing bullshit that sucks..
All you got to do is see it for what is.
Golly Obama used Cheney’s “executive assassination ring” to get Osama Bin Laden. Remember this leftist losers?
Gotta love loser liberals like Seymour
BalllessHersh!35. YLB spews: I SUCK!
AGREED!
LMBBAO!
Pud, you must be off your meds tonight. The CAPS are a bit excessive and the foolishness dominates.
Bye bye silly one
K I use caps because I am dealing with the one who admits he sucks. He placed it in capitals so I agreed in capitals. If that bothers you well…
He really likes me! That’s just fine Puddybud.
In contrast I don’t care too much for any of your commentary. It takes up some megabytes on my hard drives so I can get a few laughs from time to time over how someone can forge over 30,000 jolts of willful stupidity.
Just don’t get too weird over my commentary. It’s just my opinion.
OMG. Your reality is BDS!
It’s the first step to recovery…
My reality is the truth!
Lying again yelling loser boy@42! Never said it! You make up shit all day every day!
LMBBAO
It is Puddybud. You’re doing great by admitting this. Seek help from a competent therapist. I can’t help you there.
Correction to 14:
REPEAT…
My reality is the truth!
Lying again yelling loser boy@44! Never said it! You make up shit all day every day!
LMBBAO
Remember is was Puddy who asked the HA leftists if water boarding was proven to be the reason Obama got Bin Laden.
No lefty has answered. This PROVES my postulation the ends justifies the means when you are a leftist pinhead!
That’s just false. Out and out false.
Prove it otherwise moron. We know what Panetta said above. KSM and al-Libbi gave it up by water boarding.
You lose sucka!
Let’s look at that again:
How can anyone gloat over something like that?
If it was true (and the facts aren’t that clear at this point) I’d be ashamed for my country.
Enough said. Good night..
@49
I think we can pretty conclusively that waterboarding wasn’t “the reason.” It may have been one of many reasons and even if it was one of “the many reasons” the info garnered though the use of waterboarding could have been gotten in a different way. And so far the only one trumpeting this is Puddy’s wack-a-mole site.
Interesting argument. But you didn’t answer the pertinent question. Would you want Osama still alive and able to send his minions out to strike if GWBush didn’t get the intel on the couriers?
NBC News is Puddy’s wack-a-mole site?
WHO KNEW I LIKED NBC? NOT!
Michael is the new definition for MORON!
Did you forget the AP and WA Post Michael? That’s three Michael!
Yes MORON = Michael!
I have one last thought for the HA liberals tonight!
Why is it okay to KILL a terrorist but it’s not okay to water board one for pertinent potential kill zone information?
54 – Why did this country ratify the Geneva conventions?
If this country subscribes to humanitarian principles it does not torture prisoners of war period.
There are different rules for the battlefield dumbass.
Just viewed the html source to this page. There’s not one link to NBC or MSNBC..
But there are links to right wing sites.
Link to an NBC News transcript next time.
and this just in from the white house..
bin laden was armed and his wife rushed the seals…
no, no, wait wait, this just in…
bin laden was not armed but we shot his wife in the leg (christ, they shot randy weavers wife in the face)
Maybe you can discuss how you are going to pay off a 1700 Billion dollar one year deficit with no plan whatsoever?
Tax the Rich?
Ha Ha
Take every dime from the billionaires and I doubt you would come close to 1700 Billion
That’s 34 Entire Bill Gates estates in one failed swoop.
I don’t take orders from you. The NBC News transcript is there in #3 moron! And you sprouted wings in #4 as pigs do fly!
See ya idiot!
@13
Puddy, still peddling your fantasy about Loughner? You say you remember things but, “ask YLB for the database…
http://horsesass.org/?p=32398#comment-1061607
http://horsesass.org/?p=32398#comment-1061619
Nah, you just slink into the corner and hope no one remembers when you bring up the stupid again. “Mike Rogers, Yarrrrgh!”
59 – Nope the link is to a right wing bullshit site.
I assume the rest of it is from that site.
Right wing bullshit sites specialize in deceptive editing that’s swallowed in whole by right wing sheep.
Right wing sheep like you Puddybud.
59 – #4 has another link to a right wing bullshit website.
You’re full of right wing bullshit Puddybud.
Link to something more credible next time.
And the corporations. They alone are sitting on 2 trillion of cash – not employing many people but figuring out how to sue into bankruptcy or buy off innovators that threaten their businesses.
And there’s nothing wrong with the country running a modest deficit. It has for most of its history and every time it has balanced the budget or eliminated the debt – recession if not full blown depression followed.
This was the result of Andrew Jackson’s presidency to whose mentality yours bears a striking resemblance.
LD: Well, for starters we could start taxing people making over 250 thousand a year at a decent rate. Then, we could get rid of a bunch of worthless deductions for oil companies, deductions and tax credits for multinational farming syndicates (on say, high fructose corn syrup), get rid of waste in the Pentagon and start trying to bring ack some more troops from the Middle East. That would add up to at least 1 to 2X the deficit alone. Controlling health care costs would also do it – but we would have to get past the republican opposition and lobbyists for big Pharma and Insurance companies.
Also, we don’t need to get rid of the entire debt at once – we need to stop running a deficit – and the best way to do that is fix the economy and generate more jobs that actually contribute to energy independence and infrastructure.
Instead, the republicans want of get rid of Medicare and privatize social security (that could be fixed forever by just lifting the cap).
Republicans want to balance the budget on the backs of the poor and the sick – instead of going after the oil companies, the big farm subsidies and the rich. Hmm, which approach is more fair?
Punching down the deficit is simple. Just stop continuing the Bush policies. Replace them with something much better.
@3 So now you’re an apologist for torture? That doesn’t surprise me.
I’ve said all along that torture is immoral, illegal, bad precedent, etc. — and there are exceptions to every rule, and if you want to torture the bastards responsible for 9/11, I’d look the other way and not say anything. But that if you torture even one innocent person, you hang, so you’d better make DAMN sure you’ve got the right guys. That’s always been my position on this issue.
Now? Always has been. That’s Puddybud from git-go.
@65
Punching down the deficit is simple. Just stop continuing the Bush policies. Replace them with something much better.
better? we spend all our money on medicare, medicaid and social security. so how would you propose we fix that?
Oh checksez…
If Loughner was a right winger then each night they bring up Congresswoman Gifford’s name, we would be reminded each time she was shot by a right winger by the slobbering left wing libtardo MSM. Since that doesn’t happen, your commentary is an
EPIC FAIL!
There are so many times we are reminded about conservatives and their actions. Like Donald Trump. You don’t think his left wing pals in NYC would have spotted him being a racist 30 years ago with his real estate dealings. Yet we’re reminded about his political persuasion each night someone in the slobbering left wing libtardo MSM does a piece on him
Sorry foooooool, NO SALE!
Which as the NBC video in it.
Goodbye!
And these policies from this sadministration have helped. $4 Trillion in new debt with more on the event horizon. Unemployment at 9.2%.
NO SALE!
68 – Raise tax revenue, close loopholes and tax expenditures, cut stupid defense spending.
In order to make medicare work better, the health care cost curve has to be bent.
If we had single payer, the majority of waste in the health care sector would be cut out with one stroke. Let insurance companies be the vampire of some other sector. They’ve totally screwed up health care in this country.
Yes that will bring down the deficit. Ezra Klein said it won’t. Check your archives yelling loser boy around April 8 or 9th 2011!
Why do you fools continue to equate water boarding to torture?
Clinton – “in fact, cooperation with Pakistan helped lead us to bin Laden and the compound in which he was hiding.” False
Panetta – “any effort to work with the Pakistanis could jeopardize the mission.” Truth
This sadministration can’t get their story straight!
73 – Moron can’t read. I added in the corporations. Besides why are you using the words of a “journolist moron” – hypocrite.
74 – Because waterboarding is torture. If it was good enough for the Spanish inquisitors then it IS torture period.
75 – This administration is leagues beyond the idiot administration you supported.
A couple of people here are so fucking stupid it’s best to just ignore them.
With probably a deceptively edited transcript of the video you pasted in this thread.
Go the source if you want credibility.
But you don’t – you want lies.
Torture rarely if ever gets solid facts. This is because people will say anything to get the torture to stop. Remember the movie Marathon Man where Dustin’s Hoffman’s character was being tortured with dental tools? He was telling the torturer anything he wanted to hear just to get the pain to stop. Remember Tim Robbin’s character in Mystic River finally admitting something he didn’t do to stop the mostly mental torture? This is what you get from torture.
Because torture facts are always suspect, it taints anything you do get, which basically makes it all useless. Not to mention it is against US and international law, and is reprehensible in all possible moral ways.
The proven way to get solid actionable intelligence is to befriend the person you are interrogating and turn them to your way of thinking. This is proven.
If torture worked and was the reason Bin Laden was killed, why did it take so many long years after the torture for the Bin Laden killing to happen?
79,80 Commendable review of the facts on torture but the right wing degenerates of this country like Puddybud are deaf, dumb and blind to them.