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Drinking Liberally — Seattle

by Darryl — Tuesday, 12/14/10, 6:06 pm

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Please join us tonight for another evening of politics under the influence at the Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally. We meet at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. beginning at 8:00 pm. Some of us will be there even earlier for a quiet dinner.

Here is an interactive holiday song from Roy Zimmerman. Decisions, decisions:



Not in Seattle? There is a good chance you live near one of the 235 other chapters of Drinking Liberally.

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  1. 1

    Michael spews:

    Tuesday, 12/14/10 at 8:04 pm

    So it turns out that stem cells can cure HIV.
    http://www.aidsmap.com/page/1577949/

  2. 2

    LD spews:

    Tuesday, 12/14/10 at 11:24 pm

    I am not spending one red cent in this state for Christmas. I will buy everything elsewhere.

  3. 3

    Rujax! spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 8:09 am

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/201.....nd-center/

    Facebook founder’s philanthropy pledge angers Ayn Rand Center

    By Sahil Kapur
    Wednesday, December 15th, 2010 — 9:41 am

    Facebook founder and CEO Mark Zuckerberg has irritated the Ayn Rand Center with his individual decision to donate most of his fortune to charity.

    …funny.

  4. 4

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 9:58 am

    LD–
    Join the club.
    Seeing the feeble effort Gregoire has made thus far to address long-term budget issues makes me glad I sold almost all my Washington properties.
    A lot of folks headed to Oregon and Idaho.

  5. 5

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 10:04 am

    The latest move by the Marxist regime is to now adopt the “NO LABEL” label.
    It’s the same darn folks that used to call themselves Liberals, then Progressives and now………..DRUM ROLL PLEASE….NO-LABEL!

    This is really hysterical.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-50.....03544.html

  6. 6

    Steve spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 10:04 am

    You sold them, you still have them. you sold them, you still have them. You moved to Montana, you have lunch every day at a cafe in Lacy, you moved to Montana. Get your fucking stories straight, you dumbfuck KLOWN.

  7. 7

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 10:06 am

    Seems like NO LABEL doesn’t include folks with Conservative views.
    Are they really No Label??
    Hell no!
    It’s just a bunch of Marxist elites trying to reinvent themselves…again.
    TOO
    DAMN
    FUNNY!

  8. 8

    Steve spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 10:09 am

    You might want to sell some of the gold stocks you’ve never owned and then buy yourself a fucking clue.

  9. 9

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 10:11 am

    I can’t wait for Goldy’s NW Division of Lunatic Moonbats to start waving the NO-LABEL banner.
    It’s really hysterical.
    For example, you can no-longer call a FREELOADING A$$HOLE like YLB, a FREELOADING A$$HOLE…even though that is precisely what he is.
    Calling him what he is is LABELING and frowned upon by the leftist elite.
    Only they can label Conservatives, Tea Partiers etc.
    Apparently if you are a lefty and claim to now be a member of NO LABEL, you get an exemption and can LABEL people.

    I’d love to see any of you folks try and grab onto that with your track records here at HA.
    Screw civility.
    This is a battle of ideology.
    Big Government with high taxes & massive DEBT VS.
    Limited government

    Leftists truly believe they know best how to spend $$ other successful folks have earned.
    Many of the lefty’s here like YLB are too lazy to earn their own. They are bottom-feeders relying on government to suck money away from the earners & redistribute it to him.

  10. 10

    Rujax! spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 10:13 am

    http://www.americablog.com/201.....-give.html

    Wednesday, December 15, 2010

    Tax cut deal will allow parents to give $10 million donations, tax free.

    by Chris in Paris on 12/15/2010 11:35:00 AM

    There’s nothing quite like putting the interest of a handful of people so high on the list during an economic crisis. So imagine, the likes of Stanley O’Neal, Chuck Prince or Angelo Mozillo can easily shovel over millions to their children without paying taxes. The millions they received for business that was wiped off the books, which led to the taxpayer bailout of Wall Street, is now a gift from the American taxpayer to their children. How screwed up are the priorities of Congress to allow this? Deals like this are sickening.

    This is fucking outrageous.

  11. 11

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 10:14 am

    steve-
    Once again you show bitterness toward someone who is successful because you had it tough. Hey, you’ve shared with us that you were a successful engineer, yacht klubber and kountry klubber. I don’t own the luxury items you do..but I’m not jealous. Spend your hard-earned money as you please, give it to whomever you please and I’ll do the same.

    Are you a NO LABELer Steve?
    That would be kind of hard to sell, dontcha think?

  12. 12

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 10:15 am

    Rujax–
    Your guy ImamObaMao is pimpin’ this tax cut.
    Stop whining & take it up with him.
    He has the VETO pen.
    He is your guy.
    The messiah.

    Disappointed rujax??

  13. 13

    Rujax! Reminding MISTER Cynical-ASS-Klown that the jesus threw pricks like him out of the Temple. spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 10:16 am

    9. Mr. Cynical spews:

    I can’t wait for Goldy’s NW Division of Lunatic Moonbats to start waving the NO-LABEL banner.
    It’s really hysterical.
    For example, you can no-longer call a FREELOADING A$$HOLE like YLB, a FREELOADING A$$HOLE…even though that is precisely what he is.
    Calling him what he is is LABELING and frowned upon by the leftist elite.
    Only they can label Conservatives, Tea Partiers etc.
    Apparently if you are a lefty and claim to now be a member of NO LABEL, you get an exemption and can LABEL people.

    I’d love to see any of you folks try and grab onto that with your track records here at HA.
    Screw civility.
    This is a battle of ideology.
    Big Government with high taxes & massive DEBT VS.
    Limited government

    Leftists truly believe they know best how to spend $$ other successful folks have earned.
    Many of the lefty’s here like YLB are too lazy to earn their own. They are bottom-feeders relying on government to suck money away from the earners & redistribute it to him.

    12/15/2010 at 10:11 am

    What king of fucking know-nothing (and SOOOOO proud of it) MORON is this idiot anyway?

  14. 14

    Rujax! Reminding MISTER Cynical-ASS-Klown that the jesus threw pricks like him out of the Temple. spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 10:19 am

    12. Mr. Cynical spews:

    Rujax–
    Your guy ImamObaMao is pimpin’ this tax cut.
    Stop whining & take it up with him.
    He has the VETO pen.
    He is your guy.
    The messiah.

    Disappointed rujax??

    12/15/2010 at 10:15 am

    Disappointed, yes.

    Surprised, no.

    Happy to call you out as an absolute fucking twenty-four carat prick?

    EVERY MOTHER-FUCKING DAY OF THE WEEK.

  15. 15

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 10:32 am

    Rujax–
    Liar. You were leading the Obama bandwagon and grinding our faces into all the dreams you had about what Obama was going to do to us.

    Look, I know you are disappointed and surprised.
    I don’t blame you.
    You gulped on that Kool-Aid jug pretty hard.
    Seems like it has elevated for you into RAGE–

    Happy to call you out as an absolute fucking twenty-four carat prick?
    EVERY MOTHER-FUCKING DAY OF THE WEEK

    Call me out??
    Where are you calling me out rujax?
    All you are doing is hurling insults & labels.
    Your application for the NEW MARXIST/PROGRESSIVE NO-LABEL group has been officially REJECTED Rujax.

    Take something to soothe your anger & bitterness. It will help you. Go see LEE, he’ll set you up with one of his pot vendors.
    Perhaps Marijuana is ok for seething Marxist Progressives to sooth their Obama rage.
    Try it and tell us if it works.
    TOO
    DAMN
    FUNNY

  16. 16

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 10:33 am

    Hey Rujax–
    Remember what Obama said…this is a long battle.
    Do you trust him Rujax?
    That’s what he is asking.
    How f*cking stupid and unstable would you have to be to trust ImamObaMao after watching him for 2 years??

  17. 17

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 10:34 am

    Remember Rujax, if you dare question or call out Obama..you are a racist.
    So be very careful.
    Be a good USEFUL IDIOT rujax.
    I think you are highly qualified to be one.

  18. 18

    Steve spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 10:39 am

    You’re such a dumbfuck KLOWN. Your success?? Goldy’s had my trade confirmations for two years. You’ve got two years of nothing. Go fuck yourself and give the goat a break today.

  19. 19

    Rujax! Reminding MISTER Cynical-ASS-Klown that the jesus threw pricks like him out of the Temple. spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 10:57 am

    http://thinkprogress.org/2010/.....-earmarks/

    While Attacking Omnibus For Earmarks, McConnell And Senate GOP Asked For Billions For Themselves

    Republican lawmakers and candidates have spent the past year railing against congressional earmarks as the embodiment of everything wrong with “business as usual in Washington.” And under heavy pressure from the tea party movement, they approved earmark bans for GOP members in the House and Senate last month.

    Here’s MISTER-Cynical-ASS-Klown’s shepherds of the public trust sucking at the public tit. Typical of ALL banana-republicans.

    How does MISTER-Cynical-ASS-Klown feel about swallowing…I mean swallowing the LIES fed to him and his fellow true believers by McConnell and Boehner. All the banana-republican “leadership” (THERE’s and oxymoron for ya) has to do is thump that bible a litle and they can face-fuck MISTER-Cynical-ASS-Klown and his gullible buddies all they want.

    It only took us about six months to figure out that we were going to get the shaft from the Obama Administration.

    MISTER-Cynical-ASS-Klown and his litle christianist freak show STILL don’t get that they are being used by fucks that are WAYYYYY richer than MISTER-Cynical-ASS-Klown and his pallys will EVERRRRR be. MISTER-Cynical-ASS-Klown and his fellow rube’s have had THIRTY FUCKING YEARS to get that they’re all getting cornholed by their banana-republican masters.

    Those rich folk will flush MISTER-Cynical-ASS-Klown and his little sheeple down the shitter like a used condom.

    Really asshole…just WHO is the “useful idiot here”?

  20. 20

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 11:03 am

    rujax–
    This is really getting to you.
    You could have made the above point in 2 sentences.
    Instead you chose to rant & rave and fill your response with vitrol.
    Shame on you Rujax.

    I’m unhappy with all the pork in this Bill…you bet. There are apparently over 6,000 add-ons. I can’t wait to see them vetted. It’s horrible. I will not support any R who added pork.
    How about you with the Dems rujax??
    Are you happy about the pork??

  21. 21

    Rujax! Reminding MISTER Cynical-ASS-Klown that the jesus threw pricks like him out of the Temple. spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 11:08 am

    @20…

    Good fucking luck asswipe.

    Their your guys…they’re gonna squander YOUR precious money.

    Have fun.

  22. 22

    Rujax! spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 11:27 am

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....97096.html

    Pennsylvania Company Lays Off 365 Workers The Week Before Christmas

    Merry Christmas from the compassionate corporation. MISTER-Cynical-ASS-Klown will be pleased.

  23. 23

    Steve spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 11:38 am

    “rujax–
    This is really getting to you.”

    You project too much, KLOWN, especially when you pull shit from your ass.

    I’m pleased to see that Rujax! is getting to you.

  24. 24

    Don Joe spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 12:24 pm

    @ 20

    “Are you happy about the pork??”

    Being mathematically literate, I don’t give a flying fuck about the pork in the bill. Explain to me why I should care.

  25. 25

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 12:36 pm

    Don Joe–
    Because it adds to the National Debt which is already unsustainable…and does little to create long-term jobs.
    You were just kidding I hope???

  26. 26

    Rujax! spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 12:45 pm

    25. Mr. Cynical spews:

    Don Joe–
    Because it adds to the National Debt which is already unsustainable…and does little to create long-term jobs.
    You were just kidding I hope???
    12/15/2010 at 12:36 pm

    Some ASS-Klown forgets which banana-republican president got us into this fix in the first place.

  27. 27

    Rujax! spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 12:51 pm

    http://www.americablog.com/201.....e-111.html

    Wednesday, December 15, 2010

    Goldman Sachs executives to receive $111 million in bonuses for 2007 and 2009

    Goldman Sachs Group Inc. Chief Executive Officer Lloyd C. Blankfein and his top deputies will collect about $111.3 million in stock next month in a delayed payoff from last year and their record-setting 2007 bonuses.

    Blankfein, 56, is poised to receive about $24.3 million in January, based on yesterday’s share price, while President Gary D. Cohn, 50, will get about $24 million, company filings show. The payouts, just a portion of the $67.9 million bonus awarded to Blankfein for 2007 and the $66.9 million paid to Cohn, reflect a 24 percent decline in the stock’s value since it was granted at $218.86.

    Within a year after the bonuses were approved, Goldman Sachs took $10 billion from the U.S. Treasury, converted to a bank and was borrowing as much as $35.4 billion a day from Federal Reserve emergency programs. This year the firm paid $550 million to settle U.S. regulators’ fraud charges related to a mortgage-security the company sold in 2007.

    Yeah.

    Tax-cuts for the filthy-rich and less regulation will solve ALL our problems.

    FUCK yeah….

  28. 28

    Don Joe spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 1:03 pm

    @ 25

    On why I should care about some $8.3 billion dollars worth of pork in a $1.1 trillion omnibus spending bill, particularly in light of the fact that the Senate just blew a nearly $8 hundred billion hole in the deficit, Mr. Cynical responds with this brilliant piece of chicanery:

    “Because it adds to the National Debt which is already unsustainable…and does little to create long-term jobs.”

    My God, man, but can you really be that fucking stupid? You’ve argued in favor of special tax cuts for the rich that were nearly one hundred times greater than the earmarks over which you think I should be horribly concerned, and your response is to talk about the national debt?!

  29. 29

    Blue John spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 1:35 pm

    @22. It is not a corporation’s purpose in life to compassionate. It’s purpose is to make money for the stockholders and/or owners of the company and the upper management.

    If that means firing everyone in the company a week before Christmas to get an extra .01% profit, the company is required to do it.

    Going further, if it’s more profitable and not forbidden by regulations, to use cheaper child labor, or have a percentage of it’s employees end up in grinders, or dump toxic waste into the river is acceptable.

    The only thing that matters to a company is profits. And that is what the conservatives want to run the world.
    To me, that seems like an unpleasant mindset to be allowed to control government.

  30. 30

    Michael spews:

    Wednesday, 12/15/10 at 7:22 pm

    Well, it seems the viaduct tear down date has been bumped up yet again, it’s now 2016. The things going fall down before it gets torn down.

  31. 31

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Thursday, 12/16/10 at 7:39 am

    29. Blue John spews:

    @22. It is not a corporation’s purpose in life to compassionate. It’s purpose is to make money for the stockholders and/or owners of the company and the upper management.

    If that means firing everyone in the company a week before Christmas to get an extra .01% profit, the company is required to do it.

    You are correct about the role is to make money for stockholders. Unfortunately, short-term profitability has become the target…not long-term. As an investor, I look for long-term companies. As a Speculator, I look for short-term plays.

    Give me 3 examples of companies firing folks before Xmas to jack the profit? Give me one??
    Companies that play those games do not get the best people. Of course Retailers are going to lay-off seasonal workers. That comes with the job.

  32. 32

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Thursday, 12/16/10 at 7:42 am

    Michael–
    We were told the viaduct was going to collapse 6 years ago. Thankfully Goldy and his NW Division of Lunatic Moonbats has taken it upon themselves to physically hold the thing up the past 6 years. And thanks to Goldy, it hasn’t fallen down.
    They should have retrofit it 6 years ago.
    It would have been done & safe.
    Instead, the spend hundreds of millions planning, re-planning and re-re-planning and nothing gets done. It’s the Progressive Process way that seems to override common sense and getting things done. This has been the planner/consultants dream project! Keep planning!

  33. 33

    Steve spews:

    Thursday, 12/16/10 at 7:54 am

    “They should have retrofit it 6 years ago.
    It would have been done & safe.”

    Imbecile. STFU, KLOWN. You know absolutely nothing about structural engineering, geotechnical, structural strength and ductility, or anything else to be considered. Go back to the goat shed and leave this to people who actually have a fucking brain.

  34. 34

    Rujax! Puddy and Cyniklown sittin in a tree... spews:

    Thursday, 12/16/10 at 8:21 am

    @33…

    Like THAT’S gonna happen.

  35. 35

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Friday, 12/17/10 at 7:41 am

    steve–
    The study was done by Jones.
    No one ever debunked his plan technically.
    It was all emotional.
    Since you are the professional engineer, tell me what was wrong with the Retrofit plan?
    At least it would have been completed and paid for by now.

  36. 36

    Mr. Cynical spews:

    Friday, 12/17/10 at 7:43 am

    Mrs C & I read several Daily Devotionals after breakfast. This one was especially powerful for those feeling in a deep dark hole.

    Friday, December 17, 2010

    Up and Out
    Read Psalm 40:1-5

    [The Lord] lifted me out of the slimy pit, out of the mud and mire; he set my feet on a rock and gave me a firm place to stand.

    -Psalm 40:2 (NIV)

    I am an inmate in a maximum-security prison. I live in the Restrictive Housing Unit, often and aptly referred to as “The Hole.” Isolated from the general population, it is a lonely and despairing place, void of any signs of comfort or compassion. I am imprisoned by its seemingly impenetrable walls.

    At one time, however, I was every bit as imprisoned even though no walls surrounded me. Sin and its accompanying entanglements had plunged me deep into a pit of spiritual darkness. But like the psalmist I cried out to God and found that the walls of that pit were not impenetrable. God lifted me up and out of it.

    Even in “the hole” I see Bibles and Christian literature, catch glimpses of inmates praying, and hear prisoners calling out to speak with the chaplain.

    No matter how deep in the mud and mire of sin we may find ourselves, no matter how isolated, helpless, and hopeless we might feel, God can hear us, lift us up and out, and give us a firm place to stand.

    Charles P. Axe (Pennsylvania, USA)

    O Lord, no matter the depth of our troubles, may we look to you for help — for deliverance from destruction and despair and all that imprisons us. Thank you, Lord, for being our refuge and salvation. Amen.

    No pit is deep enough to put us beyond God’s reach.

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