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Drinking Liberally — Seattle

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DLBottlePlease join us this evening for some politics, conversation and drinks at this week’s meeting of the Seattle Chapter of Drinking Liberally.

We meet tonight and every Tuesday at the Roanoke Park Place Tavern, 2409 10th Ave E, Seattle. You’ll find us in the back room of the pub or, maybe, out on the back patio. We start at 8:00pm.

Chapters of Living Liberally are all over the place…if you can’t make it to the Seattle chapter, stop by another chapter near you.

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    FDA Commissioner Makary

    “Hundreds of thousands of Americans have claimed that they have been injured by the covid vaccine. And we gotta listen.”

    My uncle claims Bigfoot raped him near Pe Ell in 1964 and we don’t listen to him.

    Hundreds if Thousands claim to have been harmed by the furries using mandatory litter boxes in high schools and we don’t listen to them.

    Millions claim chemtrails make their balls tiny and we don’t listen to them.

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    Tesla sales topple in Europe as Musk’s problems mount

    In April, Tesla’s year-on-year sales plummeted 49% in Europe as the brand suffers from a deep-seated angst on the continent due to Elon Musk’s efforts to interfere in European politics and the influence the Tesla CEO has wielded over the Trump administration.

    https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/tesla-sales-europe-elon-musk-doge-rcna209328

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Good. He deserves it.

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    How bad is Tommy Tuberville? Calling his political career an “embarrassment” is being charitable.

    The Republican is perhaps best known for becoming the first and only senator in American history to impose a 10-month blockade against confirming U.S. military officials, as part of an anti-abortion fight that he didn’t seem to fully understand.

    The gambit left Tuberville’s reputation on Capitol Hill in tatters … several Senate Republicans publicly accused him of, among other things, being dishonest, damaging the military during international crises, assisting U.S. adversaries abroad and relying on tactics that were “ridiculous” and “dumb.”

    But while this failed effort was a stain on Tuberville’s career, it was not his only fiasco. Remember when he accused Democrats of partnering with “a Satanic cult” to destroy America’s youth? How about the time he suggested to a group of veterans that he was “more military” than they were — despite the inconvenient fact that he never actually served in the armed forces? Or maybe the time he said it’s not up to senators to “determine” whether Donald Trump’s Cabinet nominees are qualified?

    Over the course of four years and four months, there are countless related incidents. Upon arriving in Congress in January 2021, the first votes Tuberville cast were against certification of the 2020 presidential election results. Two months later, the Alabama Republican said the three branches of the federal government were the House, the Senate and the White House — he apparently forgot about the judiciary — and talked up government-imposed religious lessons, in defiance of the First Amendment and U.S. Supreme Court rulings.

    In the months and years that followed, Tuberville became known for election denialism, provocative rhetoric about race, disparaging the U.S. military, struggling with policy details and needlessly giving Russia’s Vladimir Putin the benefit of the doubt. All the while, he’s faced residency questions he apparently doesn’t want to answer — as recently as 2018, the ostensible Alabaman was casting votes in Florida — while engaging in more stock trading than 98% of other members of Congress.

    If Tuberville makes it to the governor’s office next year, it’ll be a classic example of a politician failing up.

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/tommy-tuberville-governor-alabama-run-senate-republican-rcna209294

    The dumbfuck doctor loves to criticize Democrats who are far smarter and more successful than he is, but he’s never posted a word about this one-man GOP clusterfuck. Why is that? Is he emotionally incapable of acknowledging there are Republicans who shouldn’t be in politics?

    Yeah, Tommy Dumbass may be Alabama’s next governor, which will only make things even worse in that fucked state.

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    How bad is Tommy Tuberville? Calling his political career an “embarrassment” is being charitable.

    The Republican is perhaps best known for becoming the first and only senator in American history to impose a 10-month blockade against confirming U.S. military officials, as part of an anti-abortion fight that he didn’t seem to fully understand.

    The gambit left Tuberville’s reputation on Capitol Hill in tatters … several Senate Republicans publicly accused him of, among other things, being dishonest, damaging the military during international crises, assisting U.S. adversaries abroad and relying on tactics that were “ridiculous” and “dumb.”

    But while this failed effort was a stain on Tuberville’s career, it was not his only fiasco. Remember when he accused Democrats of partnering with “a Satanic cult” to destroy America’s youth? How about the time he suggested to a group of veterans that he was “more military” than they were — despite the inconvenient fact that he never actually served in the armed forces? Or maybe the time he said it’s not up to senators to “determine” whether Donald Trump’s Cabinet nominees are qualified?

    Over the course of four years and four months, there are countless related incidents. Upon arriving in Congress in January 2021, the first votes Tuberville cast were against certification of the 2020 presidential election results. Two months later, the Alabama Republican said the three branches of the federal government were the House, the Senate and the White House — he apparently forgot about the judiciary — and talked up government-imposed religious lessons, in defiance of the First Amendment and U.S. Supreme Court rulings.

    In the months and years that followed, Tuberville became known for election denialism, provocative rhetoric about race, disparaging the U.S. military, struggling with policy details and needlessly giving Russia’s Vladimir Putin the benefit of the doubt. All the while, he’s faced residency questions he apparently doesn’t want to answer — as recently as 2018, the ostensible Alabaman was casting votes in Florida — while engaging in more stock trading than 98% of other members of Congress.

    If Tuberville makes it to the governor’s office next year, it’ll be a classic example of a politician failing up.

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/tommy-tuberville-governor-alabama-run-senate-republican-rcna209294

    The dumbfuck doctor loves to criticize Democrats who are far smarter and more successful than he is, but he’s never posted a word about this one-man GOP clusterfuck. Why is that? Is he emotionally incapable of acknowledging there are Republicans who shouldn’t be in politics?

    Yeah, Tommy Dumbass may be Alabama’s next governor, which will only make things even worse in that fucked state.

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    The House bill, as passed, contains the following language:

    No court of the United States may enforce a contempt citation for failure to comply with an injunction or temporary restraining order if no security was given when the injunction or order was issued pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 65(c) whether issued prior to, on, or subsequent to the date of enactment of this section.”

    https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/republican-house-bill-trump-court-contempt-rcna209184

    IMO this provision renders the House bill subject to filibuster, because it clearly isn’t fiscal legislation that can be passed by reconciliation, and the Senate parliamentarian should rule accordingly.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconciliation_(United_States_Congress)

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    @6

    Deeper dive.

    Total EV sales climbed in Europe over same period 2024.

    Just no one wants a ShitMobile from Elon.

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    Rewatching the Handmaid’s Tale finale, fan pages/social media are upset. She didn’t get her older daughter back, but they have Margret Atwood herself to blame. They had been planning the finale since Season 1, but she wrote a sequel that includes the older daughter still in the occupied portion of the United States.

    Still wondering how for a country on life support (in the show) with the rest of the world about to pull the plug, where the US Military that liberated Boston during the uprising came from. It appears the Marines were loyal to Anchorage, and the Indo-Pacific Fleet, mostly whatever was based at Pearl Harbor and Yokosuka. As for Atlantic Fleet Norfolk is definitely Gillead, it changed hands twice during the original Civil War. If the Air Support came from a CVBG, it would have been detected long before it got close to launching.planes.i know it’s a show, but this is a show that consulted experts at refugee resettlement to get the experience of those fleeing Gillead occupied territory, right.

    They definitely didn’t have F-35s and F-22s flying from Eielson and Elmendorf, would have to go through Canada, and Gillead moved troops close to the border at the end of Season 5 in retaliation for a failed US Rescue Mission of Children stolen from their parents by the Gillead regime. A map from Season 2 suggested parts of South Florida may be held by forces not loyal to the occupiers. It included the Atlantic Coast roughly from the Miami-Dade area possibly to the Space Coast. Wonder if that included a certain property in Palm Beach County.

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    Oh look! Elon is having buyer’s remorse!

    Billionaire Elon Musk said in an interview that he’s “disappointed” by the cost of Donald Trump’s much-ballyhooed sweeping tax bill passed by the House …. Trump has dubbed it the “big, beautiful” bill.

    But Musk said in an exclusive interview with CBS Sunday Morning that “I was disappointed to see the massive spending bill, frankly, which increases the budget deficit … and undermines the work that the DOGE team is doing.”

    https://www.aol.com/elon-musk-disappointed-cost-trumps-031628494.html

    Maybe he should’ve done more due diligence before plunking down $250 million to buy this turd? 💩

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    Meanwhile, it’s beginning to look like a federal court may blow up the whole DOGE operation:

    A group of 14 states … sued Musk, DOGE and Trump in February for allegedly violating the Constitution. The states’ attorneys general argued that Musk lacked the legal authority to make sweeping cuts and other changes to the federal government because he is not a Senate-confirmed officer of the government, and DOGE was never authorized by Congress.

    Attorneys for the White House, in a motion they filed … to have the case dismissed, characterized Musk as holding an advisory and temporary job in the Trump administration only.

    The judge in the federal court, Tanya Chutkan, found that Musk’s reach extends throughout the executive branch without any known limits …. Judge Chutkan wrote that the 14 states made a credible argument that [Musk] now “occupies a continuing position” and “exercises significant authority,” all without “proper appointment” by Congress. She also wrote that the states’ allegations … were “sufficient to allege an injury,” and that the case can move forward.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/27/musks-role-leading-doge-is-continuing-and-permanent-judge-says.html

    If the court finds Musk acted without authority, I like the idea of holding him personally liable for the damage he caused.

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    WNBA official statement:

    “Angel Reese is a lying sack of shit.”

    Recording devices all over the place, not one head swivels at the screaming of the slur Angel Reese claims she heard.

    How stupid. Even Jussie Smollett knew not to pull a race hoax until the streets were deserted.

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    @ 11

    What about women and children?

    They’re not the able-bodied ones committing the fraud, Robinhood Dumbfuck Rabbit.

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    @ 3

    My uncle claims Bigfoot raped him near Pe Ell in 1964 and we don’t listen to him.

    Hundreds if Thousands claim to have been harmed by the furries using mandatory litter boxes in high schools and we don’t listen to them.

    Millions claim chemtrails make their balls tiny and we don’t listen to them.

    And a bunch of able-bodied men who just don’t feel like working are on Medicaid because they claim they can’t find a job.

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    There’s an unserious twat judge who used exclamation points as often as Welfare Queen YLB used to, until I shamed her into communicating more like a 15 year-old girl than a 12 year-old girl:

    “The cornerstone of the American system of justice is an independent judiciary and an independent bar willing to tackle unpopular cases, however daunting. The Founding Fathers knew this!” wrote Judge Richard Leon in the scathing, exclamation-point-filled opinion in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C.

    To let Trump’s order stand, Leon wrote, “would be unfaithful to the judgment and vision of the Founding Fathers!”
    …
    “Please—that dog won’t hunt!” Leon wrote in response to arguments from the Trump administration that WilmerHale’s claims of harm resulting from the executive order were merely speculation.

    “This argument is absurd!” the judge later wrote, balking at the administration’s attempt to dispute whether Trump’s order caused WilmerHale to lose clients.

    26 exclamation points in the opinion. Someone counted.

    Another couple of years of me calling out Welfare Queen YLB’s silliness and she might actually mature to the point of holding her own Sweet 16 celebration.

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    Ross Dress for LessMore:

    While Trump called on Walmart to “eat the tariffs,” Ross Stores is among retailers including Walmart, Amazon, and Best Buy preparing customers for higher prices on some products. Half of the goods sold at its stores originate from China, Conroy said. “As such, we expect pressure on our profitability if tariffs remain at elevated levels,” he said.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/05/27/ross-stores-tariffs-raising-prices/83877900007/

    orange pants shitter babbles to American companies: “eat the tariffs!”.. But why? it told us all that all those “unfair” countries would pay for them.. like Mexico would pay for the fucking wall instead of military families getting screwed.

    yawwwn.. it lied and magats believed it. and widbee dumbfuck kneepadded for orange pants shitter with each bleat of…

    “mandate”

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    Another couple of years of me

    masturbating while babbling at HA.. yawwwn.. might lead to a halfway decent “nightcap” – a hand job on the road shoulder near dumbfuck’s fav widbee strip joint.

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    @ 21

    it told us all that all those “unfair” countries would pay for them.. like Mexico would pay for the fucking wall instead of military families getting screwed.

    And Joe Biden told your two fucked kids that they would be on the hook for someone else’s student loan debt, Welfare Queen YLB.

    Lemme know when inflation due to DJT47 comes anywhere close to 9%, girlfriend.

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    Welfare Queen YLB likes exclamation points because they remind her of her favorite dildo.

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    Speaking @ 21 of Amazon:

    Max Tani
    @maxwelltani

    New: Jeff Bezos emails staff at the Washington Post announcing that the Post opinion pages going forward are largely going to focus on personal liberties and free markets. Current opinion section editor David Shipley is out.

    6:38 AM · Feb 26, 2025

    Welfare Queen YLB had a bit of a scare there. The first time she read the tweet she thought that the Amazon founder might focus on personal responsibility.

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    lmao.. too funee..

    My two sons (who have seen the best side of their 20’s) keep on winnin’

    Whenever repukes die and stop getting SS checks.

    And orange pants shitter’s next tax cut that will “benefit all levels”.. lmao..

    Any corporate profits out there parked in tax havens? Bring ’em on home to buy back stock!

    All following from the braindead, degenerate babbling of a kreepy moldering dumbfuck from widbee.

    on the hook for someone else’s student loan debt,

    lmao.. So those debtors can be consumers and contribute to the economy.. Yawn. Next thing dumbfuck will babble is that my sons will only win from recreational wars of choice one of which it kneepadded and babbled to continue indefinitely at 9 billion a month.

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    personal responsibility.

    Financial “success” to kreepy dumbfuck translates to being “personally responsible” for countless hours of masturbatory babble at HA.

    in its “golden years”

    ding, ding, ding.. no one but dumbfuck to blame..

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    RFKjr goes on a podcast, accuses medical journals of being paid for and SPECIFICALLY calls out the practice of Pharaceuticals paying for ‘pre-review’ copies from journals that they sell with their letterhead making official marketing sheets that Reps can take on sales calls and it’s big money for the journals.

    Except that no such activity exists and it is letter of the law illegal for Pharmaceutical Reps to disseminate pre-review research in any manner whatsoever to prospective clients.

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    @27/28

    You know, responding is what Dumbfuck wants.

    We all get it. Your kids are fine.

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    Yeah, YLB’s kids are fine.

    They won’t grow up to be Heterosexual Neanderthals with a virus, like Bob’s family and freinds.

  33. 33

    You know, responding is what Dumbfuck wants.

    And we will definitely respond..

    with rising prices and mounting layoffs..

    it will reap what it has sown since it first served the jungle punch at its frat after paying the price during hell week for voting for Carter.

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    My youngest, btw, has been asked to contribute upwards of 10k of his own money for his professional schooling. The first year. Multiply that for each year. Gives one an idea of the “personal responsibility” he’s demonstrated in preparation.

    He’s applied for a scholarship. He’d better get it. Damn that schooling is costly.

    Financing is settled. He starts mid-summer.

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    @18 All the more reason not to take away their health care, dumbass in order to pay for tax cuts, deportations, and Trump’s “star wars.”

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    @19 “And a bunch of able-bodied men who just don’t feel like working are on Medicaid because they claim they can’t find a job.”

    I agree with terminating Medicaid benefits for both of them. By the way, I know of an able-bodied doctor who’s fucking horses instead of working. How sicko is that?

  37. 37

    @20 Oh look, HA’s armchair-lawyer troll thinks not letting the government tell law firms who they can represent is “unserious.” He’s the same 🤡 who agitates for guilt without trial.

  38. 38

    @21 Since most corporations have profit margins of less than 10%, and retailers operate on even thinner margins, Trump’s edict to “eat” the tariffs would literally put them out of business and wipe out their shareholders. Whatever this is, it isn’t capitalism or free markets. Its state control of enterprises and pricing-by-edict bears a suspicious resemblance to Mao’s Five Year Plans.

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    @24 “Lemme know when inflation due to DJT47 comes anywhere close to 9%”

    Won’t happen. What will happen is price controls and empty store shelves. When people can’t get shirts he’ll say, “See? I told you tariffs wouldn’t make shirts cost more.”

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    @26 In other words, WaPo is now Jeff’s personal blog. Didn’t Elon do something similar with Twitter? How’s his readership now?

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    @29 If they did, you’d think there’s at least one honest doctor out there who would rat on them. I don’t mean Dumbfuck.

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    @31 Mass deportations will cripple a lot more than Las Vegas. The cost alone will cripple the bond market.

  43. 43

    @31 Mass deportations will cripple a lot more than Las Vegas. The cost alone will cripple the bond market.

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    From Seattle Times daily brief, which I get via email:

    It was a tense scene around Seattle City Hall yesterday as a religious group and counter-protesters clashed again. Eight people were arrested. This comes amid continuing fallout — and an FBI investigation — after similar confrontations on Saturday. One big question: Why was a conservative Christian rally, with distinct anti-gay and anti-trans themes, permitted in the heart of the state’s most LGBTQ -friendly neighborhood?

    Kind of a dumb question, if you ask me. Where have all the journalists gone? We don’t have no free speech zones, or groups with less rights than other groups, and those aren’t ideas we want to encourage regardless of what we think of what some groups want to say.

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