The Seattle Chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight for our weekly fix of political chat and beer. Please join us!
We meet tonight and every Tuesday at the Roanoke Park Place Tavern, 2409 10th Ave E, Seattle. You’ll find us in the small room at the back of the tavern. We start at 8:00pm.
Chapters of Living Liberally are all over the place…if you can’t make it to the Seattle chapter, stop by another chapter near you.
Independent Voters spews:
This is why no one is particularly concerned that in early April RFK Jr. is pulling anywhere from 10-15% of the vote. Stories like this keep popping up and when it comes crunch time you’ve got:
Steady Boring Joe bringing the Jobs and the student debt relief.
or
Donald, bringing the felonies, the rape, the business fraud, the J 6heroes who need pardoning, the abortion ruling, the war on gays, the pulling out of NATO, the rapes, the felonies, the stealing the election…and a guy you don’t want to have Cofeve with all the stench and all that.
FKA Hops spews:
We know this is bullshit that’s going away so we’ll get one more week of coverage out of this Homeland Security Mayorkas impeachment.
But don’t worry, Greg Abbot is on the case and we’re going to get some movement.
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
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Once you drop below the top tier national people being paid $$$, RFK, Jr’s state level staff are all MAGA through and through.
It’s not so much that they didn’t screen as that’s basically who showed up and signed up. The mistaken premise was that there ever existed any kind of popular groundswell for that scumbag and his grab bag of paranoia outside of Q/MAGA.
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
Biden won Arizona (didn’t need to) in 2020 by only about 11,000.
In 2024 thanks to Dobbs he’ll triple that easily.
Independent Voters spews:
Kristi Noem has a slush fund. The Governor of South “Fuck the ‘Rona We’re Having Sturgis Super Spreader Event” Dakota is under fire for spending $9m in ads touting South Dakota as a place for business to move.
in response, The governor’s Monday press release about the newest ad said,
Let’s look at the data of the families moving to SD to work and grow companies from the most recently available data (2022)
SD Over 65 population grew from 14.3% of the total in the state in 2010 to 18% in 2022.
All other demographics are largely unchanged.
The about to retire 50-64 population shrunk from 19.4% to 18%
Families moving to an area to work generally bring kids or just starting out couples come for the job and have kids. 0-4 population, 7.3% 2010 6.4% 2022.
5-19 age, dropped a bit 20.5% 2010, 20.3% 2022.
The really interesting one is new, gonna work here for the rest of my life bracket, 20-34 year olds. 20% 2010, 19.5 2022.
Or the prime of of our earnings potential 35-49 demographic. 18.4% 2010. 17.8% 2022.
Yes of course Governor. Bringing in a bunch of reitrees to suck your meager Medicare funds dry is the sure route to future economic prosperity. What matters is you can point to thousands and thousands of not working families moving into the state.
Say, where did the money get spent? An Ohio Conservative advertising company called Strategic Media. She didn’t even spend the money with an in state firm.
The funds for the campaign are paid by a
taxfee on all SD businesses while the governor can unilaterally decide how to spend the cash to promote South Dakota as a place to live. You know, a slush fund to spend on an Ohio Political consulting firm for a future run for VP?Roger Rabbit spews:
@1, @4 It’s not safe to assume Diabetes Don will even be around for the November election. He’s deteriorating fast and isn’t making necessary lifestyle changes.
Independent Voters spews:
74% of Americans (Pew Feb 2024) believe supporting Ukraine is in America’s best interest. One orange fellow running for president does not.
Double whammy of a PR win. Ukraine (potential NATO ally, does Donald have things to say about NATO) gets arms. Those arms came from long time nemesis of the U.S. Iran to fight the longer nemesis Russia.
What an asshole. I bet it’s a Republican. spews:
wow… everyone was taking apart teh wibee kreepshit’s bullshit arguments in the last thread..
the babbling about “critical dance studies” made yours truly crack up..
every accusation.. in truth.. a confession..
those “dance majors” entertain kreepshit and its kreepee buds at the local vip room. has done that its whole miserable life since its initiation at hell week. heh.. projekshun 101 doncha know…
too funee…
It's the guns, Stupid spews:
It’s no longer OK to arm your mentally unstable child. It’s no longer, “Who could have known” when the school keeps warning you and you decide to buy them the weapons that kill kids anyway.
What an asshole. I bet it’s a Republican. spews:
Cost of Joe’s student debt relief so far:
139 billion..
Cost of PPP handouts
742 billion..
Now which one does kreepshit dance stoopid over again?
2024 spews:
It’s all going well for Jewish outreach.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@9 Kids only have guns if adults let them. That should be a crime. In some places it is. Good.
https://www.aol.com/assistant-principal-charged-felony-child-202839186.html
Vicious Troll spews:
@ 5
Gee. Why might people want to move to South Dakota?
Vicious Troll spews:
@ 11
… the Jews and Black people vote for Democrats purely “out of habit.”
They sure as hell don’t do it because it benefits them.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@9 “The dragging this has had on my heart and soul cannot be expressed in words, just as I know this is not going to ease the pain and suffering of the victims and their families,” said the mother who failed to keep court appearances, eluded police, and tried to flee to Canada.
https://www.aol.com/james-jennifer-crumbley-parents-michigan-100600502.html
Fuck her. Fuck them. That entire family deserves to be in prison forever.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@14 Jewish voters may have noticed that Democrats don’t go around chanting, “Jews will not replace us!” Black voters may have noticed that Republicans have done absolutely nothing for them ever since Nixon’s “southern strategy” recruited racists and segregationists into the GOP.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@13 South Dakota also ranks 49th of 50 states in teacher pay.
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
I think we can all understand how the terrible losses this stupid lying troll has suffered in recent years have left him feeling hopeless and stuck.
Sioux Falls is calling.
Can he answer the call?
Let’s all do our part.
To get the fund off to a good start I’m good for $1,000. Who’s with me?
Let’s all pitch in together to get rid of this worthless piece of human trash by shipping him off to a dry, frozen prairie like a barrel of toxic waste.
FKA Hops spews:
@13
Uttterly missing the point. The population growth of South Dakota is not people moving there to work or to have families. It is retirees. Noem is selling this slush fund spending as attracting families but the family age groups are declining slightly and the retirees are coming in.
South Dakota is 50th in Medicaid spending. Noem is bringing in the retirees they can’t afford to care for.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@18 It doesn’t cost $1,000 for a one-way ticket on a Greyhound or Trailways bus. Unless, of course, you hire one of the crony companies DeSantis and Abbott use to bus migrants; in which case, $1,000 doesn’t begin to cover it.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@19 “Noem is bringing in the retirees they
can’t afforddon’t want to care for.”The quality of life in South Dakota leaves plenty to be desired. Maybe Noem should work on that, instead of spending taxpayers dollars to send South Dakota National Guard soldiers to the Texas border.
https://247wallst.com/special-report/2022/10/29/21-states-where-the-most-people-dont-have-health-insurance/
Roger Rabbit spews:
Hey, I’m not suggesting we liberals become ghouls or anything, but fwiw the first 30 seconds of this video shows a pickup truck flying a Trump flag t-boning a train.
I’m not sure what the truck driver was thinking. Drive through the train and come out the other side? Train 1, truck 0.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iAIsErjDB0
EvergreenRailfan spews:
20)Greyhound doesn’t go East of Spokane anymore, Jefferson Lines does, but one of its owners was once a Transportation Commissioner in Minnesota under a DFL Governor. Interesting company, before there were those socialist snow plows, they just put blades on their buses and did their own plowing.
https://www.jeffersonlines.com/about-jefferson-lines/mission-and-history/
Interesting how they have survived so long as a family company, sometimes later generations of the family, if they own a company , don’t care. Seems that did in Rimrock Stage Lines, they flunked a surprise inspection of the FMCSA. It’s a shame, they were a major local connection in Montana. Rimrock had a flag stop in Deer Lodge, but the usual riders were the ones making a one way trip. If they returned, it was the kind of return trip the State of Montana provided.
EvergreenRailfan spews:
This proposal from Community Transit is more of just doing a little housekeeping. When LINK reaches Lynwood, the only one of their commuter routes to King County will be Rt424, Monroe to Downtown Seattle, so those riders will be seeing a $2 fare cut. Still don’t like Sound Transit abandoning distance based fares on LINK, and definitely opposed to going fareless as some public transit agencies outside of Puget Sound have done.
The $3 flat fare on LINK that is planned, is an increase for some existing riders, if they had gone for the higher end of the original proposal, would have been a big increase for most existing riders. Base fare currently is $2.25, The maximum is $3.50 for a trip from Northgate to Angle Lake. Examples of journeys with the $2.25 fare, include within Downtown Seattle, between the two University District Stations, and just a trip to the next station. Those who transfer from Metro to LINK, it will be an extra quarter, but Metro is proposing a fare increase.
https://www.communitytransit.org/news-and-events/article-detail/2024/04/05/community-transit-proposes-elimination-of-commuter-bus-fare
Surprised Community Transit didn’t just go fare free, unlike other LOCAL transit authorities, they have an extra .3% sales tax to work with. It’s a special authority given to CT, well actually to Public Transportation Benefit Area Authorities that meet a population threshold that only applies to CT’s district.
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
60% of Arizona registered voters believe abortion should always be legal.
They’ll get the chance to do something about that in November now that the ACLU and Planned Parenthood Advocates of Arizona have qualified a ballot measure enshrining reproductive rights in the state constitution.
Vicious Troll spews:
Who woulda thunk that higher gas prices would translate to worsening inflation?
It’s a mystery.
Vicious Troll spews:
@ 25
60% of Arizona registered voters believe abortion should always be legal.
Really. As in without any restriction whatsoever. Always.
As usual, no link to support your claim. I wonder why.
Vicious Troll spews:
This is the first MSNBC interview with Michael Avenatti that didn’t include a musing of whether he’d run for president.
Avenatti gave this interview from prison.
Vicious Troll spews:
Imagine what it’s doing to liberal optimism.
ECONOMY
Small business optimism hits 11-year low as inflation fears won’t go away
Independent Voters spews:
@29
Take two Dobbs and call me in the morning.
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
27,
Even leading Arizona Republican strategists with decades of success in statewide contests are willing to admit that Republicans have now “skillfully” put themselves into direct opposition with voters they need on abortion.
But not the lying idiot troll, who after seven straight years of consistent losing, now builds his political forecasting from a potent daily brew of bad math, legally adjudicated lying media, and purified Q-MAGA faith, hope, and resentment.
Doug Ducey’s Pro-Life packed court will not be able to block the ballot measure without violating due process. And the state is run by Democrats now. So there’s no practical way to keep abortion off the November ballot where it will appear right alongside the names of Trump and Lake, and a few of those pro-life judges.
My God, but Arizona goes blue in 24 💙
Independent Voters spews:
The thing a “Doctor” would be wonder about.
Things that were not known when the Arizona abortion statute was enacted.
Human Virus
Antibiotics
Dialysis
Cardiac Defibrillation
Fetal Ultrasound
Conservatives, It does not MATTER if the most advanced arms known to the founding fathers was a 14 shot repeater. My AR with a high capacity magazine is my right.
Also Conservatives. If it wasn’t understood in the 19th Century then it’s not valid.
Genocide, even if we don't call it that 'officially' spews:
They were trampled. We did not fire except warning shots.
Yeah that was bullshit that IDF peddled and Dumbfuck bought.
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
For seven years now Monty has been opening doors and showing MAGAturd Republicans donkeys.
And they still aren’t switching doors.
Our lying idiot troll is the living embodiment of the Monty Hall problem in probability.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem
Vicious Troll spews:
@ 33
But CNN’s analysis of dozens of videos from the night and testimonies from eyewitnesses’ casts doubt on Israel’s version of events.
Lemme know when you get from “casts doubt on” to “disproves”.
• Hamas fighters frequently carry automatic weapons.
• Aid convoy trucks are escorted by Hamas fighters – riding shotgun – to make sure the trucks go where Hamas wants them to go.
This isn’t going to blow up into anything because this isn’t anything to begin with. If it was the Democrats would have been all over it from the start. They weren’t.
Vicious Troll spews:
@ 32
Things that were not known when the Arizona abortion statute was enacted.
Human Virus
Antibiotics
Dialysis
Cardiac Defibrillation
Fetal Ultrasound
We didn’t know about satellites and digital recording devices when the Constitution and its first 10 amendments were enacted, either. And yet here we are.
Go ahead. Change the existing law. What’s stopping you?
Independent Voters spews:
@36
They did. Are you not following along?
Vicious Troll spews:
Closer…
Closer…
Three sons of Hamas leader Haniyeh killed in Israeli airstrike
The Iranian-aligned Lebanese outlet al-Mayadeen reported, citing Palestinian sources, that the strike had also killed several of Haniyeh’s grandchildren.
“Sooner or later I’ll get the brother you can’t live without.”
Vicious Troll spews:
Even worse in Seattle.
Queen YLB’s fucked kids will never be able to leave her basement. Which is good for Queen YLB and her husband, who are in desperate need of the rent money they pay.
Vicious Troll spews:
Jus’ gonna leave this here:
UAW membership drops significantly in Michigan
Membership is the lowest in more than a decade
Vicious Troll spews:
Total eclipses are caused by climate change.
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Some liberal, somewhereThe View’s Sonny HostinNow we know where The Even Bigger Fucking Moron gets his news.
Vicious Troll spews:
The 10-year Treasury yield has risen 40 basis points in the last month.
Bidenflation touches all. It ass-fucks Queen YLB’s kids.
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
With Arizona off the table now, to have a path to 270 Trump must pull off a major upset in more than one Blue Wall state plus Georgia. Depending on the combinations it must be either two or three flips.
Out of Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Georgia which two or three does Trump stand a reasonable chance of flipping? Take away either Pennsylvania or Georgia and the math requires flipping the other three. It’s for precisely this reason that Trump is pushing Nebraska in an unprecedented effort to approve a change to switch to winner-take-all. That one electoral vote from Nebraska’s 2nd District is potentially decisive giving Trump one more path to 270.
What ought to stand out here from these musings is that behind the scenes Republicans are planning first for a statistically narrow, limited path to victory. That this path depends on the slimmest of odds for things like major revisions to how EVs get awarded. But that a big part of the Republican strategy is to get “close” enough that they can then unleash the same well-rehearsed combination of bullshit legal challenges and violence to flip a single state after the fact by disenfranchising those voters. That’s most ripe in Georgia where Republicans, despite being in the minority of voters, still manage to control state government and elections.
So taking all that into consideration at this point, it’s actually a little wild that the corporate media expect all of us to go into panicked doom-scrolling mode with any report, however gauzey and mystical, suggesting anything possibly improving in Trump’s favor.
Six months worth of news in virtually every category has been universally shitty for Trump and his campaign. Court verdicts, convictions, judgements, crumbling impeachment, Dobbs, abortion ballot measures, redistricting, jobs, the economy, stock markets, immigration, Ukraine, fundraising, campaign spending, the list goes on and on. But the corporate media have grown dependent on avoiding pointing out all the terrible news for Trump since it is proven to drive about half of news consumers into the arms of a small handful of pro-Trump propaganda peddlers. And that leaves them counting on the other half to fly into fits of panic any time some micro-stat shows up offering some tiny indication of negativity for Biden.
It’s stupid. But more importantly, it’s not sound mathematically.
Trump is facing the narrowest conceivable pathway to 270 in modern presidential politics. He’s still a threat. But nothing to panic about. After all, Trump has never stopped fucking himself yet. There’s no reason to think he won’t keep right on doing so.
Vicious Troll spews:
@ 43
… it’s actually a little wild that the corporate media expect all of us to go into panicked doom-scrolling mode …
You must mean the “corporate media’s” reporting of numerous polls that are consistently showing Trump with a lead in nearly all of the battleground states.
Those bastards. Reporting news. How dare they.
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
Obviously, in any report of public opinion surveys there is a considerable portion of analysis. Polls themselves begin with an analytical undertaking that attempts to validate how the responses of 1000 people contacted who agree to be surveyed can be reliably applied to predict the voting patterns of hundreds of millions of Americans. When you learn about how surveys work you immediately appreciate how much their reported results depend upon analysis of all kinds of huge data sets and opinions, based on various forms of evidence, about what that data means.
Normally when news media include opinions they label it as such. But not so with political polls. Ignorant, wishful, and childish news consumers embrace poll reporting as somehow reporting “facts” rather than reporting “opinions about opinions”.
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
Here’s a fact:
https://abc7news.com/former-trump-organization-chief-financial-officer-allen-weisselberg-was-sentenced-wednesday-to-five-months-in-jail-for-committing-perjury/14641213/
Just one of literally thousands of examples in any given week or month from now until November of news facts that are entirely negative about the Republican nominee.
Genocide spews:
@38
Applauding war crimes. Good job.
So you knew the target was not there. But you killed his family anyway.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@25 Trump, as evidenced by his latest posturing on a nationwide ban and the Arizona court decision, seems to realize the GOP’s extreme actions are sinking the party and threaten to suck him under, too.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@28 Even if Avenatti’s opinion doesn’t count for beans, it’s not a good sign for Trump that multiple prosecutors, grand juries composed of ordinary citizens, and judges, all acting as gatekeepers, concluded there’s enough evidence of criminal guilt to make him stand trial.
The bar is high, so conviction is not a sure thing. Prosecutors must convince jurors the evidence shows guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
In addition, they must thread an obstacle course of potentially partial jurors and Trump-friendly judges at trial, appellate, and Supreme Court levels.
I’m not in a position to accurately predict whether Trump will succeed in keeping himself above the law. I don’t think Avenatti is, either. Or you.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@32 “If it wasn’t understood in the 19th Century then it’s not valid.”
It’s crystal clear the founding fathers intended to authorize states to organize militias consisting of citizens bearing smooth-bore, muzzle-loading, flintlock muskets charged with black powder and shooting round lead balls with an effective range of around 100 yards.
Liberals reinterpret the Constitution to keep it relevant to modern times. Conservatives bend and twist the Constitution to serve their ideology.
Liberals justify their interpretations by arguing the Constitution is a “living document.” Conservatives justify their distortions by inventing bullshit theories and doctrines.
Vicious Troll spews:
Are you ready for “supercore inflation“?
MARKET INSIDER
The ‘supercore’ inflation measure shows Fed may have a real problem on its hands
Bidenflation touches all. Bidenflation ass-pounds Queen YLB’s live-at-home fucked kids.
Queen YLB has led cheers for it for years. Well done, girlfriend.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@35 Lemme know when you get from “everything is disproven until proven” to “in doubt.”
Roger Rabbit spews:
@41 “Sunny Hostin is a lawyer, novelist and a co-host of ‘The View’ ― but a scientist she is not.”
‘Nuff said. This is what happens when people wander outside their area of expertise. That happens on HA, too.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@42 “The 10-year Treasury yield has risen 40 basis points in the last month.”
Good. It’s about time savers got more than peanuts for letting other people use their money.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@43 “… the corporate media” are owned by rich white guys, so what do you expect?
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
“Double-Secret”®️ inflation!
Good one.
Independent Voters spews:
Another day, another loss for Team Donald. Appeals court AGAIN says no to trial delay. Starts Monday.
Here it comes….the mushroom head.
Here it comes….the wife at home
Here it comes….the Pornstar’s bed
Here it comes….the check was cashed
Here it comes….Horseface he said
Here it comes….The Playmate too
Here it comes….his lawyer plead
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
I think that missed the point by oversimplifying.
Even in the complete absence of class motivation and bias, there exists a very powerful media bias that applies just as equally the most politically liberal source.
Modern news media exist in dynamic competition for our attention, however brief. It is constant and unrelenting. It operates all the time and in all conceivable realms of reporting.
Two very ideologically distinct populations of news media consumers, each representing roughly half of all news media consumers, now exhibit very distinct responses to certain kinds of news content.
Republican, “conservative”, and Trump supporting news consumers respond very consistently to negative reports about Trump by changing the channel, scrolling past, turning the page, and consistently gravitating instead to reporting and sources that are complimentary and offer praise.
While at exactly the same time, Democrats, progressives, and Biden supporting news consumers respond very consistently to negative reports about Biden by pausing to give their full attention, leaning in, turning up the volume, and preparing to share the report with others. The trauma of the 2016 loss leaves this half of news consumers on hair-trigger alert like a PTSD survivor responding to a car backfire with cold sweats.
When something that powerful and that predictable is going on with the audience every news media source is going to notice it and act in response to it. Wealth, class, and ideology don’t enter into it.
Unserious Twat spews:
numerous polls that are consistently showing Trump with a lead in nearly all of the battleground states.
A lead that is consistently falling in the last month,
RCP Top Battlegrounds: Trump vs. Biden
March 10th Trump +4.1
April 10th Trump +2.8
The trend is not dumbfuck’s friend. So what does a dumbfuck do? Pretend it’s not happening.
Dumbfuck will not be ready for The Pain.
Elijah Dominic McFuckhead spews:
59,
He wasn’t ready last time.
He opened up that Wednesday morning following election night projecting late come from behind victory for The Rapist, and “Ossoff is toast”.
“Yesterday and today will be remembered by Republicans as good days.”
By lunchtime he offered us this nugget for the ages:
Donald Trump has received 2 million more votes than Hillary Clinton. Shame she wasn’t running, eh?
As the day wore on he fell to literally pleading like a weak bitch for the Michigan returns to rescue a drowning John James. Sometime later in the evening and into Thursday that fucking idiot troll began proudly bragging about the new crop of female Republican House members like MTG and Lauren Boebert 😂.
Pretty soon after that the loser troll suddenly became an expert on Democrats and the party leadership, lecturing all of us about how Abigail Spanberger (???) would soon be taking over and imposing plenty of austere centrist, tax and entitlement cutting wisdom on the hippies.
Today she sits on two minor Ag committees and a foreign affairs sub committee.
By Saturday morning, in an obvious delusional fugue state and in a fit of grandiosity this sad, pathetic loser troll proceeded to inform us (as though we even give a shit) that he was experiencing supreme triumph because (Ron Howard voice over):
1. Trump almost pulled it off.
(He did not)
2. The Senate will remain in GOP hands.
(It would not)
3. The House Democrat majority has shrunk significantly and the potential for a flip to GOP control in 2022 has considerably grown.
(It did not)
It certainly would have all been lots more fun if public spaces weren’t shut down to save lives from a virus the troll never believed in either.
But we’ll have this year to really enjoy dancing on the grave of the GOP.