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DLBottlePlease join us tonight for an evening of politics over a pint at the Seattle Chapter of Drinking Liberally.

We meet tonight and every Tuesday at the Roanoke Park Place Tavern, 2409 10th Ave E, Seattle. You’ll find us in the small room at the back of the tavern. We start at 8:00pm.

Chapters of Living Liberally are all over the place…if you can’t make it to the Seattle chapter, stop by another chapter near you.

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    More than a quarter of the voters in Ohio’s GOP open primary refused to vote for their party’s presumptive nominee.

    In Ohio’s 3-way GOP Senate primary, the Trump-endorsed candidate currently is in 2nd place.

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    The FBI released new crime data today showing “crime numbers across nearly every category continued to fall in 2023.” Murders tumbled 13%, suggesting 2023 may see the largest single-year decline in murders “ever recorded” when full-year data becomes available. Rapes, robberies, and aggravated assaults also declined sharply. But auto thefts were up in large cities in all regions except the West, where auto thefts declined.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/nexstar_media_wire/4542945-these-u-s-crimes-fell-the-most-in-2023-new-fbi-data-shows/

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    Hmmmmmmmm

    That same General who testified today that it was a failure to get out of Afghanistan….

    In sworn testimony before the Senate in 2021.

    The withdrawal from Afghanistan and the evacuation of Kabul was “a logistical success but a strategic failure,” the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff has told the Senate.

    Gen Mark Milley gave the stark assessment at an extraordinary hearing of the Senate armed services committee to examine the US departure, which also became a postmortem on the 20-year war that preceded it.
    …
    Milley said it was the advice of the military leadership to stick to the end of August deadline to complete the departure, which the Taliban had accepted.

    If the US had stayed on into September to try to evacuate more people, he said: “We would have been at war with the Taliban again,” requiring an extra 20,000 troops to clear Kabul of Taliban fighters and retake Bagram air base near the capital, which the US had abandoned in July.

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    Trump-backed candidate wins Ohio GOP Senate primary. That might make things a little easier for the Democratic incumbent in November than if he had to run against a more moderate Republican. Then again, it might not. I just don’t know.

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    @6

    Ohio goes Blue.

    Bernie Moreno

    “I’m 100 percent pro-life with no exceptions.” repeatedly on the campaign trail for the nomination.

    The referendum, which Ohioans passed by 57% of votes, established a constitutional right to an abortion, overriding laws passed by the Republican-dominated legislature to dramatically restrict access. In response, 27 GOP members of the Ohio general assembly signed a statement the next day arguing the abortion rights proposal “failed to mention a single, specific law”, and vowing to “do everything in [their] power” to prevent the restrictive abortion laws on the books in Ohio from being challenged.

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    “Jared Kushner, Donald Trump’s former [and future?] White House adviser and his son-in-law, praised the ‘very valuable’ potential of Gaza’s ‘waterfront property,’suggesting that Israel should remove civilians while it ‘cleans up’ the area. ‘Gaza’s waterfront property, it could be very valuable, if people would focus on building up livelihoods,’ Kushner said in an interview ….”

    https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation/jared-kushner-trumps-son-in-law-praises-very-valuable-potential-of-gazas-waterfront-property/

    By “people” he doesn’t mean Gaza Palestinians; he probably means himself.

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    Queen YLB’s kids are so fucked.

    RNC Research
    @RNCResearch
    BIDEN: “For too many people, the dream of having a good home is still feels out of reach.”

    FACT: The monthly mortgage payment on a median-priced home is double what it was when Biden took office and rent affordability is at its worst ever.
    2:33 PM · Mar 19, 2024

    This is what you voted for, Princess. Was it everything you dreamed of? How about the part at the end when Donald Trump resumes his presidency?
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    They’re just dying to get another totally winnable defamation suit.

    Unilever brands announced today they are selling off their portfolio of ice cream brands eliminating 7500 jobs to keep shareholder profits up. (It’s literally in the release that the sector is a drag on share value.) They simply announced the decision today with an eye toward completing a deal by 2025.

    (Eds Note, Give me back my Choco Taco you fucking fucks!)

    Ice cream brands currently owned by Unilever are:
    Magnum
    Klondike
    Ben & Jerry’s
    Cornetto
    Walls (100 year old company you don’t know because it’s only distributed in the UK)

    How did Fox News cover the announcement?

    Ben & Jerry’s gets the boot from parent company after years of political controversies

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    @ 9

    By “people” he doesn’t mean Gaza Palestinians…

    By “livelihoods” he doesn’t mean your pitiful level of wealth accumulation, Robinhood Dumbfuck Rabbit. The only waterfront you can afford is the bank of the family outhouse.

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    @10

    It isn’t even sporting anymore

    As Americans continue to struggle in a heavily competitive real estate market, a group of Democratic lawmakers are introducing a bill in Congress that aims to restrict hedge funds from buying up single-family homes.

    …

    President Biden is calling on Congress to pass a mortgage relief credit that would provide middle-class first-time homebuyers with an annual tax credit of $5,000 a year for two years. This is the equivalent of reducing the mortgage rate by more than 1.5 percentage points for two years on the median home, and will help more than 3.5 million middle-class families purchase their first home over the next two years.

    …

    LAS VEGAS (KLAS) — President Joe Biden will detail a $258 billion budget proposal to help first-time homebuyers and reduce rental costs when he visits Las Vegas on Tuesday.

    The GOP response to younger voters….”FUCK YOU! I GOT MY STARTER HOME THROUGH (GI BILL/FOR $165K/WITH A DOWN PAYMENT OF 3 MONTHS SALARY) SO YOU CAN TOO. FUCK OFF. REALLY QUIT COMPLAINING YOU LAZY AVACADO TOAST EATING LOSERS!”

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    @ 11

    How did Fox News cover the announcement?

    Ben & Jerry’s gets the boot from parent company after years of political controversies

    How did CNBC cover the announcement?

    Unilever has faced growing calls over recent years, including from activist investors, to overhaul its sprawling business amid wide fluctuations in the share price.
    …
    The Ben & Jerry’s brand has also proven a thorn in the company’s side, taking an active stance on various political issues.

    In 2023, Unilever faced a U.S. lawsuit claiming it misled investors by not immediately disclosing a decision by Ben & Jerry’s to stop selling ice cream in Israeli-occupied Palestinian territories, a case that was ultimately dismissed, according to Reuters.

    Earlier in the year it also faced backlash over Ben & Jerry’s calls for the return of “stolen” U.S. indigenous land.

    Terry Smith, managing director of Unilever’s 10th largest shareholder Fundsmith, said the restructuring was positive news and described Ben & Jerry’s as the “fly in the ointment” of the ice cream business.

    “Prior management seem to have managed to buy a company without actually getting control of it,” he told Sky News’ Ian King on Tuesday.

    Elon Musk bought a company and immediately cleaned house. Unilever bought a company and tried to pretend that the company’s namesakes aren’t assholes.

    Assholes are assholes. Unilever is dumping them, finally.

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    Elon Musk bought a company and immediately cleaned house.

    Since Musk bought the company in October 2022, it’s lost approximately 13% of its app’s daily active users.

    And it’s major advertisers.

    X generated a little more than $600 million in advertising revenue in each of the first three quarters of the year, and is anticipating a similar performance in the current period, according to a person familiar with the numbers. That compares to more than $1 billion per quarter in 2022.

    Way to go Elon. You are some kind of business savant.

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    @14 (ironic)

    Quote from fox is the headline.

    Here’s a much less libelous headline attached to the article from CNBC

    Unilever to split off its ice cream unit including Ben & Jerry’s

    The editorializing you quoted starts at paragraph 14.

    Reading one headline a moron knows Unilever is selling a bunch of ice cream brands the most widely known among the general public is Ben and Jerry’s. Reading the other a person of average intelligence knows Ben & Jerry’s is getting cancelled.

    And boy do you righties hate cancel culture.

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    @ 13

    President Biden is calling on Congress to pass a mortgage relief credit that would provide middle-class first-time homebuyers with an annual tax credit of $5,000 a year for two years. This is the equivalent of reducing the mortgage rate by more than 1.5 percentage points for two years on the median home, and will help more than 3.5 million middle-class families purchase their first home over the next two years.

    No, it will help raise home prices.

    When the government steps in and does stuff like this it makes things worse. Some examples:

    1. First time home buyer credit during The Great Recession. Enabled young people to purchase homes while the values were still plummeting, which put them underwater on their purchases, quickly.

    2. New auto purchase credit during The Great Recession caused used car values to plummet. Own a car a couple of years old? Guess what, because the government paid your neighbor to prop up GM by buying a new car, your car is less appealing because there’s no credit for purchase. Your car is worth less on the open market.

    The tax credit that a home purchase will generate enables the buyer to afford a larger payment in some manner. It’s not just buyers who see that – sellers do, too, and the market responds by repricing.

    Higher home prices due to government subsidy. Desperation from the Biden White House.

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    @17 After World War 2, when the troops came home and started families, the G.I. Bill put them in houses, spurring a surge in homebuilding.

    In the 1980s, Republicans deregulated S&Ls, resulting in massive fraud, and housing starts plunged. In the 2000s, Republicans deregulated mortgage lending, resulting in massive fraud. Housing starts plunged, causing the housing shortage behind today’s affordability crisis.

    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-xxWTjrYrrl0/Ti3La20VvyI/AAAAAAAAARk/-mm9X6r6MTo/s1600/HstSt03.png

    Which works better, Republican deregulation, or government assistance to first-time homebuyers?

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    You arrest ’em, you keep ’em:

    Mexico has refused to accept any migrants deported by Texas under one of the toughest immigration laws enacted by any US state in modern times. “Mexico will not accept, under any circumstances, repatriations by the State of Texas,” the government said. The statement was issued as the US Supreme Court allowed the measure, SB4, to take effect pending an appeal.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68613083

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    @ 19

    You arrest ’em, you keep ’em:

    And then you watch the illegal alien incarceration rate in Biden’s America soar and illegals locked in cages left over from the Obama years, all during the run=up to the general election.

    OK, sure. Will do.

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    @20 “And then you watch the illegal alien incarceration rate in Biden’s America Abbott’s Texas soar and illegals locked in cages left over from the Obama Trump years, all during the run=up to the general election. OK, sure. Will do.”

    Of course you will, and wavering Hispanic voters are watching.

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    @ 18

    Which works better, Republican deregulation, or government assistance to first-time homebuyers?

    Deregulation. By either party, as long as it’s done with intent to fulfill a need.

    Some people shouldn’t buy homes, just as some people shouldn’t become parents, or be given the opportunity to borrow in order to pay $70,000/year for a university education in Transgender Studies.

    I don’t hear Queen YLB begging for financial assistance to help her fucked kids to buy a home for themselves. She’s smart enough to know that it’s not the right time and they’d bury themselves in debt if they tried.

    Wait a minute, who just wrote that?

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    Washington gas prices

    Today $4.331/gallon
    30d ago $3.906/gallon.

    So yes, let’s give people on the bubble a some extra money so they can take out a high-interest loan on a too-expensive house just before the country enters an economic downturn. We want them to enjoy home ownership for a few monthsweeks before they’re forced to move back in with mom and dad.

    That’s the ticket to re-election when you haven’t performed in the 3-plus years you’ve had the opportunity.

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    “crime numbers across nearly every category continued to fall in 2023.”

    Noun, Verb, CHICAGO!!!!

    So 2022..

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    @23

    Is this the recession that is right around the corner the last three and a half years you’re still on about?

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    The monthly mortgage payment on a median-priced home is double what it was when Biden took office

    yawwwn… whatever goes up must come down..

    Not everyone wants to own.. That’s a lot of expense..

    Both kids rent (well the youngest rents from us, it’s a good deal).. Both are just fine..

    what a silly troll.. we’re paying 4.5 percent. Our first mortgage was over twice that rate.

    kreepshit’s unfortunate grandkids today look up to a defeated loser – kon-klown DEE-Santis.. and a moldering delusional troll of a pop pop..

    SAD!

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    30d ago $3.906/gallon.

    Paid $3.91 today with 40 cents discount courtesy of QFC..

    shrug.. Only need to top off the tank ever other month..

    btw, both kids don’t have a car payment.. Why do that when the public transit is decent here in Seattle?

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    The new Hit Single

    ‘Saying the quit part out loud (Gotta get that Zuckerberg donation)’

    Massachusetts House Rep Jake Auchincloss, D did two media hits today. One on a local station and one on MSNBC.

    “I’ve been in public office for ten years. I’ve defended some very unpopular speech. This is not a first ammendment concern. There’s a difference between freedom of Speech and freedom of Reach. Americans can post anything they want anywhere they want within the political domain. They can criticize Biden they can criticize Trump they can criticize me. Freedom of speech is not freedom of reach (eds note, a phrase he finds so clever it popped up five times in the two inteviews) You do not have the constitutional right to have your post amplified to 100m people.”

    So, in plain language. You’re not actually worried about TikTok, owned by Byte Dance a company with almost entirely non-Chinese shareholders and ownership including a 20% stake held by all employees as part of the start up agreement. You’re concerned that ordinary smart people who see through the bullshit of $B profits from greedflation, explosive CEO pay and a dead middle class, Billionaires financing your campaigns to stay in power can talk to lots of people.

    The issue is learning that Kelloggs CEO is fine raising prices way beyond the cost of raw materials and urging people who can barely afford food have cereal for dinner rather than clawing back a few million of his compensation package. The issue is people sharing a back bench House Rep. flat out saying the problem is people learning about how in the tank for old form social media he is. The issue is Apple needing to sell 6.3 million Macs every year regardless of if anyone needs a new Mac. “It’s got THREE cameras next to each other. Yours doesn’t. Finance it. The banks need their cut too.”

    The issue is learning about a genocide being perpetrated with our tax dollars and the forced starvation that’s keeping it going at a rapid pace. The issue is learning that the 20 happiest contries on the Earth of which we are no longer one have Universal Health care. It’s easier to be happy when you don’t have to choose between getting that festering ulcer treated or food.

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    19)The TX officials should immediately go to the Mexican consulate to protest. I got the perfect movie to play in the waiting room. It’s a dated Cheech Marin movie,

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    begging for financial assistance

    Too funny seeing kreepshit pine for a tax cut through its whining and trolling..

    And relief from a certain knock on the door..

    Nervous breakdown, heart palpitations, ischemia.. all of that could happen any day now.

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    @22 As a med school grad, I’m pretty sure you got help at some point from that ladder you want to pull up.

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    @ 28

    It’s easier to be happy when you don’t have to choose between getting that festering ulcer treated or food.

    Or provide for the defense of your own nation, because you lease out space for others to do it instead.

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    @28

    Why in my day we were able to embed CNN crews with troops on hero missions with the agreement that if they aired any dead civilians we would send them home and then the people glued to the TV would stop watching and the advertising would dry up. We even gave them press releases to memorize for thier live shots. It was great.

    Can someone just off that Bisan woman. I’m so fucking tired of hearing her start every TikTok with ‘Well I’m still alive’. Cameras on the ground we don’t control is the problem

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    Peter Navarro is enjoying his very first “date” in prison right about now.

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    Washington gas prices

    You should get a job.

    Earning a steady paycheck goes a long way towards helping a person gain confidence that they will be able to afford necessities and save for their dreams.

    And it might help you especially with your lack of self confidence.

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    As much as you liberal progressive assholes won’t like it, Trump will win in November. So, how are you all going to adapt to Trump’s second term?

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    From a discussion on future cuts
    “Why does anyone expect any rate cut anywhere in the near future? All measures of inflation are proving that inflation is quite sticky. It’s not out of control but it’s not at/below where the Fed wants it to be. The stock market continues to be at all time highs. There is SO MUCH money out there and that’s contributing to real estate prices being so high. There’s no way a rate cut is going to come with stocks at all time highs. It simply doesn’t make sense. The economy is chugging right along better than anyone expected.

    So…why do we keep getting this rate cut narrative? It’s because inflation is self-fulfilling. The fed knows they aren’t dropping rates any time soon but if they admit that inflation is still hanging around as an issue it becomes even harder to tame.”

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    37,
    He’d be in an observation unit.

    It’s quite humiliating for someone like him. For the first 72 hrs he’ll be under continuous observation, including shitting, showering, etc. Absolutely no privacy of any kind. Units are designed for it with every space visible at all times with lights on.

    But at least he won’t get raped.

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    Ohio goes blue. Bigly.

    Of the 17 Federal offices the Ohio GOP elected in the primary yesterday 17 are men. 16 are White men. 15 have made public statements supporting a total ban on abortion.

    What happened when Ohio put abortion on the ballot.

    “60% of women and 53% of men supported the abortion referendum, per the exit poll.

    Seventy-seven percent of those ages 18-29 were for the abortion referendum

    Overall, voters said 61-37% that abortion should be legal rather than illegal in all or most cases, and 89% of those who said it should be legal backed the referendum, establishing a right to abortion in the state’s constitution, according to the exit polls.”

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    Since securing his party’s nomination the Republican nominee has not only not “pivoted”, he has gotten weirder. In just the last week he’s said that:

    He would cut Social Security if elected;
    There would be a ‘bloodbath’ if he lost the election;
    He would pardon the January 6th rioters on his first day in office;
    He doesn’t think immigrants are ‘people’;
    And any Jewish person that votes for Democrats hates their religion. They hate everything about Israel and they should be ashamed of themselves because Israel will be destroyed.’

    It’s going to be incredibly tough to sell this crazy shit to moderate swing voters in battleground states.

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    41,

    Young guys looking for some one-on-one on Adult Friend Finder for the win!

    Wait till someone invests some real oppo research into these guys. Talk about your bloodbaths.

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    As Trump The Penniless Rapist slowly succumbs to the Alzheimer’s he inherited from his father, which of his four children do you think will succeed in gaining control over the family companies?

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