Please join us this evening as the Seattle Chapter of Drinking liberally meets for drinks, discussion and dancing. Only two of those things are actually true.
We meet every Tuesday at the Roanoke Park Place Tavern, 2409 10th Ave E, Seattle. Look for us in the back room of the pub beginning about 8pm.
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WTF?! spews:
Tea, anybody?
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/464764-federal-deficit-estimated-at-984b-highest-in-seven-years
WTF!? spews:
here is where capitalism doesn’t work and greed gets in the way of morals, standards, and ideology.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/daryl-morey-china-tweet-economic-impact-nba-adam-silver-chinese-television-cctv-cancels-today-2019-10-08/
But can you blame them? Marketing and advertising is to them like hotels and resorts are to The Hump!
@godwinha spews:
Fauxchahontas doubles down.
Elizabeth Warren stands by account of being pushed out of her first teaching job because of pregnancy
Warren’s changes in phrasing when discussing her dismissal have sparked questions about her story’s veracity. Fox News has cited the 2007 interview as a contradiction with her more recent statements. The Washington Free Beacon reported on a transcript from contemporaneous local school board meetings, also obtained by CBS News, which said Warren was rehired that spring and that the board “accepted with regret” her “resignation” the following summer.
In fact, the school board minutes show that the board voted by unanimous roll call to extend Warren a “provisional certificate” in speech pathology.
Local newspaper reports from 1971 also present reasons for her leaving the school alternative to what she describes on the trail. The Paterson News, a local paper, reported that summer that Warren was “leaving to raise a family.” The next month, a story about the school board hiring a replacement said Warren had “resigned for personal reasons,” even though the board had voted to “appoint” Warren to the same speech pathology job that April, according to an earlier report.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/warren-stands-by-account-of-being-pushed-out-of-her-first-teaching-job-because-of-pregnancy/
I don’t know what it is about Democrat US Senators and the need to lie about their past. With Hillary it has been so many things, but landing under sniper fire in eastern Europe stands out. Tom Harkin claimed to have flown combat missions in ‘Nam. Nope, he hung out in Japan and the Philippines during that period. Richard Blumenthal claimed to have served in ‘Nam, when the truth is he received multiple deferments prior to cooling his heels stateside in the reserves.
Warren is a smart woman. She is smart enough to know that she can’t pull this shit without getting caught.
So, why?
@godwinha spews:
Hillary learned that when it comes to power, if you abuse it you lose it.
Goldy✔
@GoldyHA
Had Clinton won the election, the Republicans would have impeached her before she made it halfway through her first term. Because they know that when it comes to power, you use it or lose it.
9h
WTF!? spews:
Ellen is catching some slack for sitting with GWB at a sporting event…..come on, it’s her life, and some people need to divorce politics with a friendship or with humanity….she wasn’t trying to make a political statement about it, like say Ted Nugent.
I was Facebook friends with a guy – white, gay and very masculine and from one of the Muslim USSR bloc countries that I met here in NYC. You would never know that this guy was gay if you met him on the street, probably no more so than seeing Bob.
No Bob – I didn’t have sex with him – he was my Realtor for a bit.
Anyways, this very Macho, straight acting guy was a big Soccer Fan and Basketball Fan, and played both very well. He would post very controversial stuff on Facebook, to get people talking and thinking. He didn’t like Trump, but he didn’t like Obama and all the rest either – very cynical in every aspect. He spoke out against discrimination of Muslims, African Americans, and Gay people. But he would also challenge the gay community as hypocritical. His posts were provocative and exchanges of disagreement or agreement would then occur. A lot of his arguments were how money and greed “suppress” minorities. Oil, etc.
Anyways, one day he posts how gay people are hypocritical and shouldn’t be fans of Beyonce because she did a concert somewhere in Saudia Arabia or some Middle Eastern country, and she sold out the people that support here, blah, blah, blah.
I didn’t reply, I never really replied to his stuff, I read it, thought about it, disagreed, or agreed and then moved on. But anyways I wanted to tell him how Soccer Fans, more so in Europe and countries where he came from are the biggest racists, bigots, neanderthals, and thugs going. But I didn’t, but I did de-friended him from that point forward.
Sad Republicans are all about Party First and no morals, no standards, and all bullshit and greed.
WTF!? spews:
6 am Bob – do you have to feed Mr. Ed?
@godwinha spews:
@ 6
That hay feeder doesn’t fill itself.
I suppose neither does your rectum, gman.
RedReformed spews:
Trump campaign threatens to sue Target Center in Minneapolis because they have asked to be paid in advance of his Thursday rally event.
RedReformed spews:
The racist incel is promoting made up outrage now that Warren is doing well in the polls. People are saying she’s a giraffe hoarder too.
RedReformed spews:
“The rule was at five months you had to leave when you were pregnant. Now, if you didn’t tell anybody you were pregnant, and they didn’t know, you could fudge it and try to stay on a little bit longer,” Randall said. “But they kind of wanted you out if you were pregnant.”
From the homophobic racist incel’s giraffe hoarding link.
Elijah Dominic McDotcom spews:
10,
What Teh Dumbfucks don’t get is how widespread and routine that kind of thing was at that time.
So aside from how painfully obvious it is that Trump supporters and Trump2020 are now pushing this story just as she is beginning to emerge from the polling field, is the rather sad truth that most older white men really don’t get it and may never.
It was not GREAT.
Non-whites, on account of their race, were forbidden to live in safe neighborhoods with good public schools.
Women, on account of their gender, were forbidden to obtain credit.
And yes, absolutely, women were routinely dismissed from employment for being pregnant, teachers especially. Administrators, some of them women, argued that a pregnant woman in the classroom woul confuse children and raise issues having to do with reproduction which was a conservative political culture wars cudgel at the time.
Guess what? Most women and non-white voters already know all about this shit. It resonates very keenly. Mocking the struggles of two thirds of all voters has become reflexive for Republicans. Look, the reporting cited confirms that it was policy to terminate at 5 months. Trump supporters can’t even smear competently any more. No wonder they need to farm it out to off shore contractors.
I'llHaveAPilsner spews:
@3
Getting the racism in early today, eh.
“Your Asian so I’ll just call you Chin, haha, get it? More Chins than a …”
I'llHaveAPilsner spews:
Add another count of Obstruction of Justice to the House Articles of impeachment.
“But, but, but, Eric Holder” -Dumbfuck.
“Yep, and y’all were within your rights to draft articles of impeachment and seek criminal penalties, GOP. Welcome to the big leagues.”
The State Department instructed Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland not to appear for the deposition, according to his counsel.
I'llHaveAPilsner spews:
@1
You’re aware that the school district in question overturned their ban on pregnant teachers AFTER Senator Warren (Senator Warren) was dismissed/quit/took the hint and resigned…
Of course not.
You’ve got her now. THIS will save the orange Messiah.
Don’t look now but Donnie’s favorite pollster has him down eight points approval since the whole ‘Perfect Call” thing started.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Lindsey Graham, sycophantic Trump bootlicker, has invited Rudes to peddle his conspiracy theories about Ukraine and Biden to the Senate committee he chairs.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/08/politics/rudy-giuliani-lindsey-graham-ukraine/index.html
It’ll be interesting to see what the “process” is. Will Democrats be allowed to ask questions? I doubt it. That would require Giuliani to invoke exec priv and attorney-client priv. This will be nothing more than a made-for-TV fantasy show.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@3 “I don’t know what it is about Democrat US Senators and the need to lie about their past.”
You’re so oblivious to Trump’s past and present it makes me wonder what’s in your past. Specifically, whether when you landed on your head, your mother only dropped you on the floor or threw you off a balcony.
Ghengis Khan spews:
@12
It’s racist that Harvard discriminates against higher-qualified Asian students when it comes to admissions at that university. Kinda cheapens the degree.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@4 “Hillary learned that when it comes to power, if you abuse it you lose it.”
Of course, this only applies to Hillary and other Democrats. Trump and other Republicans can abuse power to his heart’s content and you’re perfectly okay with it. Over the long period of time you’ve been polluting this blog with your inanities, we haven’t heard a squeak from you about Republicans’ gross abuses of power.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Doctor Dumbfuck is flying his hypocrisy flag today.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@8 “Trump campaign threatens to sue Target Center in Minneapolis because they have asked to be paid in advance of his Thursday rally event.”
Interesting. If they succeed (which I doubt), it’ll be a bonanza for lawyers. They’ll create a whole new cause of action called “tortious credit denial.” Think of the possibilities if refusing to lend to deadbeats becomes actionable. There are literally millions of potential new cases out there.
Roger Rabbit spews:
“A majority of Americans say they support House Democrats’ move to start an impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump, according to a Washington Post-Schar School poll released Tuesday. … Almost three-in-ten Republicans in the poll said they supported beginning an impeachment inquiry into the President, as well as 57% of independents, and 86% of Democrats. Two-thirds of Americans think that Trump’s phone call with the Ukrainian President was inappropriate …. Another three-in-five Americans said that Trump doesn’t uphold adequate standards for ethics in government.”
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/08/politics/washington-post-poll-trump-impeachment/index.html
Roger Rabbit Commentary: This is what happens to people with shitty lawyers and PR people. But it’s hard to get good help when you don’t pay your helpers.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@17 Why do you care? When you got done with Asia, there were hardly any Asians left. Then you started killing Europeans. What are your plans for Harvard and the rest of North America?
Steve spews:
@8 “Trump campaign threatens to sue Target Center in Minneapolis because they have asked to be paid in advance of his Thursday rally event.”
Good move on Target Center’s part as the orange blob doesn’t pay his bills.
“Donald Trump campaign still owes city of El Paso more than $500,000 ahead of Dallas rally”
https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/news/2019/10/01/doland-trump-campaign-dallas-rally-owes-el-paso/3832570002/
I’llHaveAPilsner spews:
@8
Vendors are catching on.
How does that lawsuit work?
“I’m sorry Mr. Trump. Your FICO score is atrocious and you have multiple delinquencies pending AND you haven’t provided financial responsibility documentation such as tax returns. We can’t even accurately asses your credit worthiness without the requested documentation. We cannot extend you credit at this time.”
“Give me the cash or I’ll sue.”
“Try Deutschebank”
Discovery would be a bitch for GOP.
Steve spews:
“Doctor Dumbfuck is flying his hypocrisy flag today.”
Being a traitor in service to Putin, Dumbfuck is flying Russia’s flag and hopes to see it waving over the White House soon.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@25 “Dumbfuck is flying Russia’s flag and hopes to see it waving over the White House soon.”
What are you talking about? It already is, and has been since January 20, 2017.
Elijah Dominic McDotcom spews:
13,
Money quote:
“I would love to send Ambassador Sondland, a really good man and great American, to testify, but unfortunately he would be testifying before a totally compromised kangaroo court…”
The basis for any claim of privilege rests on the legal assertion that you would not, under any circumstances, wish for that testimony to be given.
Publishing a statement to hundreds of millions of people declaring that you would love for that testimony to be given, but not under the present circumstances, is definitively a repudiation of the privilege sought.
What I love most about these guys are the consistent #owngoals.
Elijah Dominic McDotcom spews:
21,
That’s the most telling number, given that time after time in depth surveys show this group of voters to be strongly pre-disposed to vote Child Molester.
If more than half of them are already quietly scraping the TRUMP decals off their coal rollers the GOP is in a deep hole and digging.
I'llHaveAPilnser spews:
@27
Calling the U.S. Congress a kangaroo court and THAT’s why we’re not going probably won’t even fly with Kavanaugh. Thomas will sign off.
“The gold fringe around the United States flag designates this as an Admiralty court, which cannot hear other kinds of cases, or signal that the court is operating under martial law…” Donald Legal Team
I'llHaveAPilsner spews:
Amazing how Dumbfuck thinks this will play out.
“He has routinely violated court orders and subpoenas from Congress.”
“They call her Pocahontas.”
“His administration admits to holding defense aid in a bill he signed in exchange for political dirt on an opponent in an election.”
“She’s not really indian.”
“He’s suing in Federal court (eds note, prossibly lost and needing SCOTUS to bail him out on a strictly partisan extra-judicial opinion roundly mocked in legal circles) to make sure you don’t know how much he’s being paid by foreign governments.”
“I don’t even think she was really pregnant.”
“He let our allies in the war against ISIS die to please Turkish and Russian dictators.”
“Women had it easy in the seventies. All they had to do was put out, have babies, and let the men do the work.”
“He’s a sexist pig.”
“Can I see your preggo pictures. Got any nudes? Breastfed?”
“His economic plan is exploding the deficit and enriching the top 2% in America at an astonishing rate.”
“Who cares about deficits. When the bill comes they can sue me. Did you know they call her Fauxcahontas.”
Elijah Dominic McDotcom spews:
29,
https://youtu.be/OfSkBONbDwA
Like most sov cits, Trump’s customary approach seems to focus on process much more than results.
RedReformed spews:
In looking up today’s fake outrage controversy about Elizabeth Warren’s giraffe hording, I found the fake outrage controversy from 5 days ago, and her response.
“Wohl and Burkman at several points said that if individuals did not stop laughing at them and Whelly, and making snide remarks, they would be removed. But the security guard hired for the event refused Wohl’s requests to escort the hecklers away.”
I'llHaveAPilsner spews:
Interesting wrinkle in the Donald doesn’t pay his bills saga of the Target Center.
The Target Center is operated by AEG Live.
The A is for Anschutz. Anschutz Entertainment Group.
AEG is Phillip Anschutz, Billionaire, Christian Conservative activist, 2016 GOP and DJT max donor, owner of The Weekly Standard, funder of Chirstian movies which make modest profits through distribution with Regal theaters an Anschutz company, publisher of the insane Washington Examiner.
He would rather get paid up front.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@33 Anschutz knows what’s up. These people have been robbing each other for years. There’s no one else left to rob.
WTF!? spews:
you got scum and then you have good people.
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/ellen-degeneres-defends-sitting-next-george-w-bush-nfl-game-n1063631
Don ‘MarioBros’ Trump spews:
This morning I had a great and unmatched hot shower.
Don ‘MarioBros’ Trump spews:
I followed up with a great and unmatched Quarter Pounder with cheese.
Steve spews:
The second whistle blower might be able to fill in somewhat, but America needs to know everything that was said on that call.
“White House officials scrambled to alert lawyers immediately after Trump’s call with Ukraine: report”
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/white-house-officials-scrambled-to-alert-lawyers-immediately-after-trumps-call-with-ukraine-report/#comments_section_start
Loved this comment…
“MAGA= Making Attorneys Get Attorneys”
Steve spews:
They never pay anything. Who the fuck would ever do business with these people?
“Trump firm ‘refusing to pay’ legal bill for windfarm case”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-firm-refusing-to-pay-legal-bill-for-windfarm-case/ar-AAIswYc?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp
I'llHaveAPilsner spews:
And I thought Meese was bad…
AG Barr arguing in Federal court that Congress should never see Mueller Grand Jury evidence because when a Grand Jury uncovers Presidential lawbreaking that info should forever be secret because reasons that the President is not able to ever break the law. Argues argues courts in 1974 wrongly gave Congress the Watergate grand jury ‘roadmap’ that led to President Nixon’s impeachment.
Because again, if it’s a crime and the Grand Jury thinks it’s a crime, but it’s the President there can be no oversight and the crime must be concealed. Or something.
I see a judicial bitchslap coming.
Elijah Dominic McDotcom spews:
“(H)ow to handle the discussion”. Once you know to a legal certainty that you can no longer assert privilege your approach to that question of “how to handle the discussion” would completely change. There’s one thing that every lawyer knows would immediately extinguish privilege.
Crme-fraud.
And that alone explains why Trump, Giuliani, Perry, Pompeo, and so many others directly involved have already abandoned any legal duty to protect privilege by yacking like idiots. Because their lawyers have already told them it’s gone. They are obstructing with criminal intent.
WTF!? spews:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-08/senate-intelligence-panel-warns-russian-meddling-continues
And Bob helped. Helped drive deficits up, helped with bailouts, and helped grow fascism.
I’llHaveAPilsner spews:
Fools and their money…
One of AOC’s many challengers, John Cummings, announces raising $425k in 10 weeks.
7,003 donors
110 in the district
AOC most recent FEC filing was $1.25M for the quarter.
RedReformed spews:
Today was released a document that basically shows proof that Russian intelligence helped get Trump elected, by utilizing, you guessed it: Information Warfare
1 Build a model of every voter using undercover tactics designed as social media games, quizzes, and groups. (this is where Cambridge Analytica fits in)
2. Identify the voters most likely to be on the fence about who to vote for.
3. Dump tons of money into those districts with the highest number of “on-the-fencers”.
4. Lies work exceptionally well, but only if repeated multiple times by multiple sources (this is where facebook, and republican talking points fit in)
5. If exposed, meet opposition with the very claims that are levied against you, to confuse and off-balance their attack. “You can’t impeach me, I impeach you” “Fake News” “I’m no puppet, you’re the puppet” “investigate Biden’s kids”.
RedReformed spews:
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