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@godwinha spews:
Billionaires are not supposed to run for president, you see.
Billionaires are supposed to provide paychecks to otherwise unemployable shills, through whom they instruct mindless, silly twats like YLB who to support for president.
That’s how billionaires are supposed to operate.
See Steyer, Tom. And Soros, George. And that guy whose name sounds like that guy’s who races boats.
RedReformed spews:
Gudwad’s bitter he’s not getting his Koch bux or Putin rubles. Someone, somewhere, is getting something he’s not , and he’s pissed.
Elijah Dominic McDotcom spews:
2,
Considering the fairly obvious fact that anyone who runs for President as an EEEN-DEE-PEN-DUNCE is guaranteed in advance to lose by a very, very large margin, the only people who will get anything from a run by Billionaire CEO Plutocrat are the grift hustlers who will milk him and his fund manager pals like dairy cows over the next 16 months.
Steve spews:
When your party’s national leader rapes 13 year-old girls, and your party’s favorite SCOTUS justice rapes 15 year-old prep-school girls, why should anyone get upset about some state rep who is a child pornographer? It’s all cool. Chill out.
“Arizona GOP thwarts efforts to oust racist state rep busted on child pornography charges”
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/arizona-gop-stops-efforts-to-oust-racist-state-rep-busted-on-child-charges/
WTF!? spews:
@2 angry little fuck – isn’t he. The gall to talk about or mention mob mentality. This guy too fucking stupid to enjoy his boat and fast car more than fucking the horse.
Elijah Dominic McDotcom spews:
4,
The “issue” isn’t that Republicans do these things.
Nor is it that they are not remorseful for having done these things.
The real “issue” is that Durty Hippie Socialist “Losers” dare, not only to point these things out, but refuse to drop it once it is no longer the latest breaking trailer park scandal.
That’s what the modern bothsiderist media call “extreme partisanship”. It isn’t just that it’s impolite to remind a Republican that he voted for a Russian cut-out who proudly brags about sexual assault for “reasons”. It’s that it is unforgivably impolite to remind journalists that they labored like plantation mules to manufacture those “reasons”. And that they still do.
WTF!? spews:
how many tunnels in Seattle would this buy….my guess, probably 3-4.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/cost-taxpayers-clean-nuclear-waste-jumps-100-billion-year-n963586
Keep complaining about the small shit you dumbfuck conservatives.
Thomas Jefferson spews:
Ross Perot helped Clinton get elected, indirectly. Mr. Coffee will take away from the Democrats’ nominee in 2020, and Democrats know this. The Republicans know it, too.
Elijah Dominic McDotcom spews:
7,
And to think, these are deferred costs in the decades-long cold war fight to save the planet from Russian/Soviet tyranny.
Only to come to 2016 and 63 million impotent, beer-drunk, pre-diabetic trailerbillies give it all away for an excuse to wear ugly red hats and tell racist jokes around the water cooler.
#youbuiltthat
I’llHaveAPilsner spews:
There’s a high level of irony in the current U.S. administration recognizing the person who lost an election as the President of Venezuela.
Wanting regime change is one thing….
Steve spews:
@9 “give it all away”
I don’t know about you, but my impression is that someone here would be happy see the Russian flag waving over the White House as long as it got him another conservative prep-school-girl-raping justice appointed to the SCOTUS.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@1 “Billionaires are supposed to provide paychecks to otherwise unemployable shills”
Hey working class America, this is what Republicans like Doctor Dumbfuck really think of you.
I see you’ve never done an honest day’s work in your life, doc. Daddy probably bought your first car, interceded with the draft board, paid your way through a Caribbean med school, and left you a horse farm to retire to.
Those who weren’t so lucky are just scum in your eyes.
Elijah Dominic McDotcom spews:
11,
Teh Dumbfuck may be a bit of a womb worshiper. But I’m pretty sure his underlying motivation for that lies in a keen desire to make all the brazen durty sluts pay for their crimes. Remember: while everyone else was getting after it on Friday and Saturday night, for the first twenty years of his sexual adulthood Teh Dumbfuck was straining over textbooks under a desk lamp to the dulcet tones of his drunken father’s mockery, and telling himself it would “all be worth it some day”.
Other than that I think Teh Dumbfuck probably realizes that incremental shifts in court ideology do not represent much of a payday for modern nativist conservatives as much as the Fed Soc cheap labor corp lobby. Nearly every single decis so far turning back the PeePee Preznit’s EOs have come from Fed Soc approved appointees.
In the end, he’s in it strictly for the Durty Hippie/Slut Tears.
Whether it’s trans-vag probes or beating up Guatemalan toddlers, nothing gives Teh Dumbfuck wood like the sight of a bunch of hysterical libbies on the mall complaining about something “his tribe” might do to them.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@7 Here ya go, the GOP solution to nuclear waste:
“Energy Secretary Rick Perry has proposed a reclassification of the radioactive waste at Hanford to make its disposal less expensive ….”
(From article linked @7)
Plus, of course, make more.
Trump's weird little penis spews:
@14,
Why not just dump it along the border with Mexico?
When life gives you lemons… DEATH WALL!!!
MAGA!
I’llHaveAPilsner spews:
Unanimous assessment from American intelligence agencies:
The Iran Nuclear Treaty is working.
North Korea is unlikely to ever give up nuclear weapons research.
Isis is still active in Syria
So do you believe professionals who compile and write intelligence briefings or a proven liar who by his own admission won’t read anything?
I’llHaveAPilsner spews:
Because of course…
Trump's weird little penis spews:
@17,
Maybe not. But they should!
And they should try harder to assimilate!
One very excellent way to do that would be to take the last name, remove the “z”, and simply add “son”.
MAGA!
Roger Rabbit spews:
@17 That’s what happens when you flag everybody named “Smith.”
I wonder how many John Smiths have been purged from voter rolls by GOP secretaries of state and forced to re-register (and perhaps didn’t get to vote) because one of them didn’t vote for two years in a row?
I’llHaveAPilsner spews:
@8
Not sure the CW on that will hold for long. Just 24 hours in and he’s calling Harris’ Single Payer Health Care (Wildly popular among Ds) unamerican. He’s complaining that AOC/Warren billionaire’s Tax (wildly popular among Ds and generally popular across the spectrum) Un-American.
His two big beefs are more popular with GOPers tired of Donald than they are with Dems.
How he settles on a message will tell. He’s either going to have drop all the ‘Be fair to billionaires and Health Insurance execs!” or run as a center right upstart that’s Donald on taxes, Feinstein on moral values.
Neither of those is particularly appealing to Democrats.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@20 Well at least he understands he doesn’t have a prayer of winning the Democratic nomination. But what do you expect from a rich guy who, 25 years ago, tried to poach land from a public park?
http://community.seattletimes......ug=1887846
Elijah Dominic McDotcom spews:
20,
The basic problem for Schultz is essentially confirmation bias in the extreme. He’s very wealthy. Very successful. Everyone he meets seems to like him. So he assumes that most people are like him. In particular that they agree with his political views.
He’s calling them “the silent majority” because he doesn’t hear those views reflected in the political policy narratives of most politicians and the two major parties. So they must be “silent”. And they must be the “majority” because as far as he’s concerned most people agree with him. They always say so.
He’s an idiot.
With almost no exceptions the snapshot studies of actual voters immediately following the 2016 Presidential election reveal an electorate completely the opposite of what Schultz describes.
For example, The Democracy Fund Voter Survey of 2016 shows both parties attracting a reasonably wide distribution of policy preferences among voters. And Schultz is perhaps correct in that neither of the two parties reflects his stated preference for liberal social policy combined with conservative economic policy. But that’s because, unlike Schultz, they are not an idiot.
What Schultz would describe as his magic secret sauce for WINNING! would in fact be guaranteed to lose. Figure 2 from the report, a histogram with economic and social policy dimensions on opposing axes (using conventional left-right orientation), shows both party’s voters distributed across three of the four quadrants.
Republican voters are centered along the axis of economic policy with scattering to the left, and tightly to the right side of the social policy axis. While Democratic voters are clustered to the left of both axes with some scattering across the social divide. Most striking is the empty fourth quadrant – left of center on social policy and right of center on economic policy. It is almost completely devoid of actual voters.
The Holy Grail of “socially liberal and economically conservative” politics so revered by corporate titans, Davos intellectuals, and newspaper editors is pure distilled, and unadulterated bullshit ground to a fine powder and snorted daily by all the best people right before heading to Hot Yoga. It’s a way to sound smart at certain dinner parties. And an even better way to piss away a vast pile of money on a political campaign.
That certainly leaves him with a massive messaging deficit when it comes to earning actual votes. But I have little doubt his team of consultants can raise tons of money off it. And media editors will eat that shit up with a spoon directly out of his asshole. It’s probably a fine way for him to sell his book too. Which will at least spare him that humiliation.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@22 In other words the 1% are, in fact, only 1% of the electorate. Who knew?
P.S., Would you trust this man with your national parks?
YLB laughing at boob, the official fellator of "the one" and very scary, gender-confused misogynist. spews:
“nothing gives Teh Dumbfuck wood ”
Not even with a chemical assist?
Karma baby!
@godwinha spews:
How far is too far?
This is too far:
Gilbert: So, um, where it’s obvious that a woman is about to give birth. She has physical signs that she is about to give birth. Would that still be a point at which she could request an abortion if she was so-certified…she’s dilating.
Tran: Mr. Chairman, that would be a, you know, a decision that the doctor, the physician and the woman would make at that point.
Gilbert: I understand that. I’m asking if your bill allows that.
Tran: My bill would allow that, yes.
https://hotair.com/archives/2019/01/29/virginia-democrat-introduces-bill-allow-abortion-moment-birth/
Daniel Patrick Moynihan warned against precisely this.
Of course, today y’all motherfuckers would classify him as alt-right.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@25 I’ll bet if you fucked your mother, she wouldn’t wait ’til the last minute to get an abortion. More like the morning after, if not a minute after.
@godwinha spews:
@ 26
I’ll bet that immediately after you draw your last breath the world will utter a collective sigh of relief.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@27 You won’t see it. Lots of trolls have passed through here and I’ve outlasted them all. I’ll still be here when you’re fertilizing goat grass.
Roger Rabbit spews:
Darcy lost, but she hugs rabbits, and anyway that seat is ours now!
RedReformed spews:
@25. Gudwad, If you want to play what if games, If she’s dilating, and the baby is dead and pushing out the corpse will kill her, then what do you think?
Not being a Forced Birther, I don’t think you have a say in what she should do with her body.
unless you step up and take the unwanted children into your home and raise them as your own,
shut the fuck up.
Trump's weird little penis spews:
“..take the unwanted children into your home and raise them as your own…”
Even if some of them are
black,brown,non-whie, exotic?MAGA!!
I’llHaveAPilsner spews:
The Devil is always on the details…
Hey Dumbfuck! You want to reUop that quote from a Clemson player about the ‘awesome’ time they had?
Go back and look at the photos of the kids eating. In hindsight it’s odd that a team that by their media guide is a little over 50% Black there aren’t many black players in the photos. Were the White House official photographers racist as fuck or were the black players not there?
Roger Rabbit spews:
“The expensive 2017 tax law failed to encourage Corporate America to embark on a boom in hiring or job-creating investment. Just 4% of business economists say their companies accelerated hiring because of the tax overhaul, according to a survey released Monday by the National Association for Business Economics. And only 10% of business economists said their firms stepped up investments like building factories, buying equipment and purchasing software because of the tax law. An overwhelming 84% of respondents to the NABE survey found the much-touted legislation failed to move the needle. That’s similar to the 81% of respondents who said so in the October survey.”
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/28/business/tax-cuts-jobs-business-spending-nabe/index.html
This is what failure looks like.
I’llHaveAPilsner spews:
@33
It’s all working.
Those hipies over at Bloomberg have noticed too.
Harley Profit Wiped Out by Trump Tarriffs
Elijah Dominic McDotcom spews:
30,
Oh, wait! I know this one!
As always, he thinks…
“serves her right, the slut bitch”.
That was too easy.
I’llHaveAPilsner spews:
Random string of thoughts.
New Kaiser poll finds heavy support for Medicare for all (All declared Dems position) even among GOP voters (47%) Support drops if told plan means elimination of private insurance (Harris)
Americans purchase the water that comes from their taps exclusively from a government entity. Many also get their power that way. Howard Schultz and Michael Bloomberg would have you believe that a similar method of getting Healthcare is UnAmerican.
Seems like a platform that allows every American to opt in to Medicare while allowing anyone who wants some form of Cadillac coverage to buy it privately is a winning issue. Of course if a big enough slice of consumers move to Medicare a lot of for-profit insurers will die off leaving a small industry catering to Billionaires.
Now when I put Harris in the column of eliminating private plans that’s not actually what she said. She said that she’s OK with for profit insurers being eliminated as Medicare for all is implemented. It’s a message that can be focus grouped into a winning arguement.
If the, ahem, liberal media, cough, allows it to be made
WTF!? spews:
My god. This woman is such a wench. She’s not ready to support The Hump for 2020…..oh really, keep playing that banjo up until a week before the election, when you then will get down and blow The Hump on National TV.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/427581-collins-im-not-prepared-to-endorse-trump-for-2020
So sick of this Woman. I don’t know how anyone could vote for her and think that she’s in for nothing but the money and power. She is as useless as a tit on a woman.
I’llHaveAPilsner spews:
The Howard Schultz thing is going great. Went on Morning Joe this morning and won Democratic votes by praising Reagan. Super duper impressed that Reagan respected America so much he “Never took his jacket off in the Oval Office.” So when Reagan was gutting the middle class, busting Unions, ignoring AIDS, and selling arms to Iran, well he looked classy. These are sure fire Democratic left leaning issues.
The asked a standard question about regular American consumer prices? “An 18oz box of Cheerios? I have no idea.”
WTF!? spews:
I see the Foxconn deal by the Asshole Wisconsin Governor who lost re-election is going swell, just as promised.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-foxconn-wisconsin-exclusive-idUSKCN1PO0FV
RedReformed spews:
@39.
Rather than manufacturing LCD panels in the United States, Woo said it would be more profitable to make them in China and Japan, ship them to Mexico for final assembly, and import the finished product to the United States.
>> But thanks for the 10B$ tax gift.
>> Non Conservatives are getting so tired of doing the “We told you so” dance.
But this is promising. Bet it happens right after trump leaves office.
Currently, to qualify for the tax credits Foxconn must meet certain hiring and capital investment goals. It fell short of the employment goal in 2018 – hiring 178 full-time jobs rather than the 260 targeted – failing to earn a tax credit of up to $9.5 million.
The company may be prepared to walk away from future incentives if it is unable to meet Wisconsin’s job creation and capital investment requirements,
RedReformed spews:
@39 Comment from the internet about the Foxxconn deal
“No manufacturing jobs, but will use US knowledge to develop products that can be built elsewhere for a foreign state run company.”
>> And yet, republicans don’t have a problem with THAT.
#SoMuchWinning
Elijah Dominic McDotcom spews:
41,
“Comment from the internet…”
Great job. As soon as OfDumbfuck has wiped up the coffee spit-take and administered the smelling salts we can expect an outraged visit from you-know-who.
Wait for it…
YLB laughing at boob, the official fellator of "the one" and very scary, gender-confused misogynist. spews:
Dino 4 TIMES Lossi…
It feels so good..