HorsesAss.Org

Drinking Liberally — Seattle

by — ,

DLBottleJoin us this evening as the Seattle Chapter of Drinking Liberally gathers for drinks, conversation and prognostication as the Connecticut, Minnesota, Vermont, and Wisconsin primary returns come in.

We meet every Tuesday at the Roanoke Park Place Tavern, 2409 10th Ave E, Seattle. You’ll find us in the room at the rear of the tavern beginning about 8pm. Feel free to show up earlier to watch returns from other states.




Can’t make it to Seattle? There are 253 chapters of Living Liberally, including 23 in Washington state, seven in Oregon and three in Idaho. Find a chapter near you. Or consider starting your own chapter.

Comments

  1. 1

    Who can take a nothing date, and suddenly make it all seem worthwhile?

    ANOTHER KEITH ELLISON SEXUAL ASSAULT CHARGE

    Jeff Kolb
    @jpkolb
    UPDATE: This is a record of a 911 call from May 16, 2005. The caller reported she was assaulted by Keith Ellison. pic.twitter.com/Z080dzS702

    3:47 PM – Aug 13, 2018

    Q: What does Keith Ellison tell an activist in his own party, who has two black eyes?
    A: Nothing. He’s already told that bitch twice.

    “I regret that like many, I too was duped by Keith Ellison’s considerable charm,” Minnesota Democrat activist Amy L. Alexander wrote in the Wright County Republican back in October of 2006. “I was seduced by the idea of what I thought he represented.”
    ***
    By 2004, Alexander had returned to Minnesota and the relationship reignited, leading to an alleged incident of abuse when things fell apart in 2005.

    “In May, Keith wanted to try and quiet me so he came to my home uninvited,” Alexander wrote. “We had words. His anger kicked in. He berated me. He grabbed me and pushed me out of the way. I was terrified. I called the police. As he fled he broke my screen door. I have never been so scared.”

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/08/another-keith-ellison-sexual-assault-charge.php

  2. 2

    You stupid fucks have already handed nearly a quarter-mil to this dishonest tool.

    https://www.gofundme.com/peterstrzok

    This campaign is trending!
    $237,816 of $350,000 goal
    Raised by 5,937 people in 22 hours

    YLB, sister, before you get your Panhandling for Pete cardboard sign ready to go, realize that Strzok’s behavior will be Donald Trump’s Get Out Of Jail Free card, no matter what Mueller concludes.

    Look at it this way: Strzok failed to keep Hillary from losing. To the GOP that’s priceless. The best thing is that he failed and it cost our side nothing. Advantage gained without money spent has got to appeal especially to YLB.

  3. 3

    If the Strzok texts were such powerful trailer juju, it begs the question, why can’t PornSweat use them to conjure up the T-levels he needs to fire more of the Republicans who are investigating his campaign?

  4. 4

    @ 3

    If the end game is 2020 and not 2018, why fire them now?

    For Obama it was about 2012. He didn’t give two shits about 2010 or 2014.

  6. 6

    Excellent news from NY-27.

    Republicans may be unable to have Skeevy Drifter Chris Collins’ name removed from the ballot.

    And the leading contender to replace him is into horse-porn.

    Bigfoot porn. Horse porn. Roypublicans have really changed. I guess PornSweat won. Elections have consequences. This is who they are now.
    #youbuiltthat

  7. 7

    “He didn’t give two shits about 2010 or 2014.”

    Here’s to you and all the other horse-porn loving check writers following his example.

  8. 8

    The words of the republican president.
    “When you give a crazed, crying lowlife a break, and give her a job at the White House, I guess it just didn’t work out. Good work by General Kelly for quickly firing that dog!”
    About the “dog” part … well, that speaks for itself about how Donald Trump sees women when they don’t make him happy by praising and sucking up.

  9. 9

    The abuse allegations against Rep. Keith Ellison
    “In the recent case, for example, reporters at local and national outlets haven’t been able to review evidence Monahan herself has pointed to — and thereby confirm whether the alleged abuse took place. Monahan has said she won’t release the video that her son described in the Facebook post. And while she has released dozens of text messages she and Ellison sent to each other, they don’t specifically corroborate violence or verbal abuse. Some texts are obviously cropped in the middle of an exchange. “

  13. 13

    @7 Now, now, go easy on Doctor Dumbfuck; he’s a serious scientist trying to determine if humans can transmit syphilis to horses.

  14. 14

    @8 He wouldn’t call a white woman a “dog,” except maybe his ex-wives. Of course, we all know what word he really wanted to use, but someone on his staff stopped him from using it.

  16. 16

    Looks like the entire West Virginia Supreme Court of Appeals is getting sacked. Two of the five justices have either resigned or retired in lieu of impeachment, and the other three have been impeached. One, a Republican, also has been indicted for wire fraud. The issues involve lavish spending on offices, overpaying retired justices, and converting state resources to personal use.

  18. 18

    12,
    One person’s lying and fraud is another person’s “strategic curation of their personal brand”.
    These are the times we live in. When “fake it till you make it” is all you really know, eventually “fake it” is enough for some.

    More telling is what this episode tells us about how this person views their own record of accomplishments. She gained admission to and attended a top 100 university. And according to the university she completed a substantial portion of the coursework toward her undergraduate degree. But for whatever reason she never completed the program. No crime in that. Plenty of people have stepped out of their chosen degree programs late without completing them and gone on to careers of great merit and accomplishment. Probably just as many have completed rigorous coursework to completion only to enter careers that never required it, or even valued it very much.

    But something about this for some reason does not sit well with Ms. Howard. And I take a greater interest in that reason. She doubts herself in this respect. She is sufficiently gripped by those doubts to drive her to these kinds of extremes. Most people faced with sufficiently compulsive self-doubt can be driven to acts of very low character. Our trolls prove it nearly every day. But so do plenty of otherwise good people.

    It’s the pretense that represents the greatest danger. Once any Republican person succumbs to the relief from self-doubt granted by pretense it can lead to a precipitous decline in character and behavior. Florida Republican voters would be wise to avoid Ms. Howard, not for what she did in the past, but for what it demonstrates about what she is likely to do in the future.

    But of course this is the party that overwhelmingly nominated a serial child molester to run for the Senate and overwhelmingly nominated an admitted finger rapist and rawdogger of greasy porn starlets to run for President. She’ll probably win the nomination in a landslide. Trump won. Elections have consequences. This is who they are now.

  19. 19

    @ 12

    If only that GOP candidate had some type of proof, like familial high cheekbones or something, to back her claim.

    At least she stands zero chance of being nominated for president.

    New Mexico Could Elect First Native-American Woman To Congress

    https://www.npr.org/2018/06/06/617499903/new-mexico-could-elect-first-native-american-woman-to-congress

    This is how NPR calls Elizabeth Warren a fucking liar. Not even a steaming bowl of Pow Wow Chow will help the Senator from MA overcome her lie.

  20. 20

    19,
    Not personally hoping for Warren in 2020. But I’m willing to track this down for the sake of fairness and because I think it illustrates a very good point about the intersection between “identity” and politics – a point likely to be lost forever on the party of “Jews will not replace us”.

    In a 1996 Harvard Crimson article, a Law School spokesman at the time Mike Chmura was quoted:
    “Of 71 current Law School professors and assistant professors, 11 are women, five are black, one is Native American and one is Hispanic.”
    ..
    “Although the conventional wisdom among students and faculty is that the Law School faculty includes no minority women, Chmura said professor of law Elizabeth Warren is Native American.”

    Reporting during the 2012 MA Senate campaign in the Boston Herald focused on these quotes, and others in The Crimson, from a period when the Law School was under fire for its record of failing to recruit a diverse faculty. BH followed up with the Law School concerning the origin of Chmura’s quotes from sixteen years before:
    “Harvard Law professor Charles Fried, a former U.S. Solicitor General who served under Ronald Reagan, sat on the appointing committee that recommended Warren for hire in 1995. He said he didn’t recall her Native American heritage ever coming up during the hiring process.

    “It simply played no role in the appointments process. It was not mentioned and I didn’t mention it to the faculty,” he said.”
    …
    “Fried said he learned about Warren’s Cherokee and Delaware background later when he found a picture of Warren’s mother and asked her about it.”

    That the Warren family had a long history going back several generations of belief in a native American heritage is not disputed. They were from Oklahoma. It’s a thing.

    But it also makes a few good points. Regardless of personal circumstance, there’s nothing really innocent about appropriating cultural heritage, even if you don’t do it formally, never seek to advance yourself professionally, and only mention it in passing among friends and family. Admiring and celebrating someone else’s culture is fine and a particularly worthwhile thing for its capacity to open us up to new ideas and new ways. But claiming it for your own, however innocently, can all too easily become mockery.

    But as a law professor, and as a candidate for the U.S. Senate, surely Ms. Warren would have also understood more than that about the significance of Native American cultural identity. Raised in a middle class Methodist home in largely white, suburban university town outside of Oklahoma City, and even with family hardship from her father’s illness, like most white Americans she would have known absolutely nothing of the experiences and culture of most Native Americans. Though she is surely possessed of a great many diverse experiences and perspectives, that can not be said to be among them.

    This episode appears to have caught her off guard at the time. Our understanding of the issues of cultural appropriation have evolved a lot since the Law School sought without her knowledge to exploit this family story of hers more than two decades ago. And she ought to be forgiven for not instantly pivoting from defending against a partisan smear to a more thoughtful discussion of why even innocent cultural appropriation in family stories passed down from generation to generation can be wrong.

    She knows she isn’t someone who can give voice to the Native American experience. She may be right that even now, and more so in 2012, addressing that head on would be politically costly for her. But she’s missing an opportunity here to make the point that more truly diverse experiences and perspectives need to be represented in our public life, now more than ever. In its entire history, only 52 women have ever served in the United States Senate.

  21. 21

    Manafort’s defense rests without mounting one. The legal strategy here is “Every piece of evidence shown to the jury is a lie. The parts that weren’t lies…Gates did it.”

    Good luck with that.

  22. 22

    @19 @20 America faces significant challenges in foreign affairs, economically, and with unresolved social issues; and the only thing Republicans can think of to talk about is whether there’s some Cherokee blood in Warren’s background?

    This is of a piece with GOP strategy for the last 50 years: Make personal attacks against opponents (and potential opponents), and ignore issues, because Republicans will always lose any policy debate.

  24. 24

    23,
    it’s called cognitive dissonance.
    You should look it up as soon as you finish choke-fapping to to Bigfoot porn and researching the latest Pizza Cannibal Conspiracy™.

  25. 25

    22,
    I took it be yet another very, very, very weak attempt at false equivalence from another tireless supporter for the nomination of serial child molesters and finger raping greasy porn actress rawdoggers.

    Now that Dumbfuck has established a track record of faithfully going to bat for Republican nominees who put their fingers inside of children, beat their wives and girlfriends without apology, and cut skeevy deals with our foreign adversaries, it must be tough for him to realize that his party is all alone in setting these new standards. So he spends his days digging for overtime parking tickets and 13 items in the 12 items or less checkout line of life. What else can he do? Trump won. Everything changed. Elections have consequences. This is who he is now.

  26. 26

    The “Manhattan Madam” told CNN the questions Mueller’s team asked her were directly related to whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russia in the 2016 election.

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/08/14/kristin-davis-jury-testimony-sot-vpx.cnn

    In other Trump Crime Family news, Manafort’s defense rested without presenting a case.

    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/manafort-trial/index.html

    Dunno if that means they don’t have one. If that’s a trial strategy, it doesn’t seem like a very good one.

  27. 27

    21,
    Soon to be heard in a courtroom in Alexandria:
    “The indictment or formal charge[s] against a defendant is not evidence of guilt. The law presumes that every defendant is innocent. The Defendant does not have to prove [his][her] innocence or produce any evidence at all. A defendant does not have to testify, and if a defendant chooses not to testify, you cannot consider that in any way during your deliberations. The Government must prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, and if it fails to do so you must find [the][that] defendant not guilty.”

    Tough call, unless you are afraid to subject your client to cross examination. The bulk of his defense is that the other guy did it, and that he was an unsophisticated, inattentive victim. The problem with that defense is that its success will often depend on presenting evidence of the defendant’s lack of sophistication, inattentiveness, etc. There are plenty of ways of doing that without looking like a complete idiot. And plenty of examples of high powered dudes pulling that defense off with some success.

    But generally the best way of presenting that defense is to put your client on the stand and have him or her convince the jury. When your defense relies upon discrediting the prosecution evidence and witnesses as part of an even more sophisticated scheme that victimized your client it tends to leave the jury waiting for “the rest of the story”. When the defense turn comes and they don’t give the jury that story, juries tend to notice, regardless of what a judge instructs.

    My guess: after closing tomorrow they’ll enjoy dinner on the taxpayers and a free night of Skinamax before rendering by Thursday evening. But thunderstorms in Alexandria could keep them in for another day if more than one or two jurors own boats.

  28. 28

    @23 C’mon, what could be more fun than getting his ass kicked on HA every day? Judging by the amount of time he spends here, he enjoys it even more than fucking horses. It’s kinda like to a chains-and-whips fetish.

  29. 29

    @27 “… generally the best way of presenting that defense is to put your client on the stand and have him or her convince the jury …”

    But an unacceptable risk when every other word your client utters is another potential perjury count.

  31. 31

    29,
    I think the most classic defense close in these cases, where the def strategy is to discredit the prosecution case as tainted, asks the jury to imagine they are a diner in a restaurant whose pasta has been served with a cockroach in it.
    Do you dive in and just eat around the cockroach?
    Or do you send the whole plate back?*

    Without Manafort’s testimony I’m not sure the jury sees a cockroach, or just a few overcooked noodles.

    *Good prosecutors have good rebuttals for the cockroach close.

  32. 32

    Kansas: Where the type of thing that should trigger a voter fraud investigation are litigated as valid votes.

    Kansas Gov. Jeff Colyer’s lawyers sent a letter to the Johnson County Board of Canvassers on Tuesday arguing that the county needs to include in its final vote tally more than 150 ballots that were discarded because the signature did not match the voter’s registration record.
    ….
    these ballots were primarily ballots where the voter’s spouse or parent had incorrectly signed a ballot instead of the voter.

  34. 34

    33,
    for her family. Her husband suffered a terrible fit of vapors and was hospitalized over the weekend. We are as yet unable to verify if his doctor’s medical school diploma is real, or a carefully photo-shopped forgery filled with stupid spelling errors.
    Thoughts and prayers.

  35. 35

    Capitalism, with all it’s flaws, is far superior to,socialism or communism. I was totally and irrevocably wrong with all my foolish, pie in the sky ideas. I apologize to the World for my foolish, foolish ideas.

    All my work did was to encourage government in placing its jackboots on the necks of the people and killing millions in the process.

  36. 36

    “Dana White, the Trump administration political appointee who serves as the Pentagon’s chief spokeswoman, has been under investigation for several weeks after multiple complaints were filed against her. White is alleged to have misused support staff, asking them, among other things, to fetch her drycleaning, run to the pharmacy for her and work on her mortgage paperwork. Staffers also charge that she inappropriately transferred personnel after they filed complaints about her.”

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/14/politics/pentagon-white-spox-probe/index.html

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Another Trump appointee who doesn’t comprehend that government employees work for us, not for her.

  37. 37

    They’re good people. Fine Americans.

    Rural Oklahoma school closes after parents learn there is a transgender student and threaten to kill the 12 year old.

    “How Old is this thing?”

    She was at your school for two years before you knew.

    “If he wants to be a female make him one. A good sharp knife will do the trick.”

    “We have open season on them kind. No bag limit in (sic) them either.”

    “Half baked magggot”

    The parents of the girl have been granted a protection order against at least one family. Again, this is a 12 year old they want killed. The town will now swallow the cost of having a police officer on campus at all times to protect her.

    Close personal friends of our loon I assume.

  38. 38

    37,
    Trump changes everything.
    Elections have consequences.
    This is who they are now.

  40. 40

    @35 “Capitalism, with all it’s flaws, is far superior to,socialism or communism.”

    I agree! Capitalism made me rich without working for it. And I fought communism in Vietnam.

    “I was totally and irrevocably wrong with all my foolish, pie in the sky ideas.”

    Yes, you were. But don’t feel too bad. Even Einstein screwed up now and then. And Isaac Newton completely missed the curving of spacetime, causing several generations of scientists to look for a planet near the sun that doesn’t exist.

    “I apologize to the World for my foolish, foolish ideas.”

    Too late. The damage is already done.

    “All my work did was to encourage government in placing its jackboots on the necks of the people and killing millions in the process.”

    That’s not on you. You were merely a passive observer. You’re not responsible for the perversion of your ideas by the likes of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and 21st century corporatists. And goats, horses, and little boys were safe in your presence, which you can’t say of either priests or modern-day Republican politicians.

  43. 43

    NBC News has outed the three people behind Qanon, and not surprisingly, one of them is Jerome Corsi, the author of a fantasy novel titled “Unfit For Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry.” Another is a small-time YouTuber who discovered there’s a big market for conspiracy theories among the lower third of the bell curve. These days, they’re selling horror fiction about pizza parlors.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/how-three-conspiracy-theorists-took-q-sparked-qanon-n900531

  44. 44

    @ 28 RR
    “@23 C’mon, what could be more fun than getting his ass kicked on HA every day? Judging by the amount of time he spends here, he enjoys it even more than fucking horses. It’s kinda like to a chains-and-whips fetish.”

    He doesn’t have anything else to do. His wife kicked him out of the kitchen months ago and won’t let him touch so much as a spoon.

    He’s really starting to sound almost as unhinged as the SpittlePoodle.

  45. 45

    Twitter has suspended Alex Jones for ONE WEEK. BFD.

    “Twitter is one of the only major social media companies that has not scrubbed its platform of Jones or InfoWars. Recently, Jones has seen the vast majority of the social media infrastructure for his media empire crumble. Apple has removed the full library of his podcasts, Facebook has unpublished his pages, YouTube terminated his account, and other technology companies took similar action. However, InfoWars apps remain available through the Google Play store and Apple’s app store.”

    https://money.cnn.com/2018/08/14/media/twitter-alex-jones/index.html

    And today we learned Jerome Corsi, Jones’ “Washington D.C. bureau chief,” is a prime mover behind QAnon.

    What a piece of shit.

  46. 46

    “White House press secretary Sarah Sanders issued a rare correction Tuesday night after falsely declaring that President Donald Trump has created three times as many jobs for African-American workers as former President Barack Obama did during his two terms in office.”

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/14/politics/sarah-sanders-african-american-jobs-trump-obama/index.html

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Some kites are just too heavy to fly. Sanders finally told a whopper even she realizes will never leave the ground.

  47. 47

    Courtney Love is selling her abandoned propert7 near Olympia. Big opportunity for those with big bucks.

  48. 48

    @6 New York is dedicated to giving the voters many choices, while in the general we get two choices.

  50. 50

    @11 They are both good as far as Vodka goes. Personally Vodka is best used as a paint thinner.

  52. 52

    In Milwaukee, Earnell Lucas crushed ex-sheriff David Clarke’s protege, Richard Schmidt, 57% to 34%, in the Democratic primary. Schmidt was in charge of Clarke’s jail when several people, including a 2-year-old baby, died there.

  53. 53

    @12 Many politicians commit fraud. They often get away with it for years. We voters are very forgiving particularly if they are already in office. Or we forget by the time the next election comes around. I do not think she has done anything criminal. I doubt she has much hope of winning, but these days the Hollywood rule about publicity seems to rule. Any news is good news so make sure you spell my name right. We will if her name recognition wins the day. And it’s been suggested this will be the year of the woman…..thought we had one already,

  54. 54

    @13 Under the scientific method that is almost a serious hypothesis, Vets may already have investigated, and there maybe real papers on the matter. Chances are the disease would be benign in horses, or quickly kill them.

  55. 55

    In Wisconsin’s gubernatorial primary, 10 Democratic candidates received a combined total of 515,599 votes to Scott Walker’s 395,736 votes. Walker’s sole GOP competitor received 35,130 for a total of 430,866 votes. These figures presumably are preliminary.

  57. 57

    @16 Seehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/08/14/west-virginias-efforts-impeach-states-supreme-court-is-just-latest-worrisome-trend/?utm_term=.e15a7380fe93ms to be a thing this year across the nation.

    Of course they have just been impeached. The West Virginia Senate (Republican controlled) has to vote to remove the Justices from office though a Republican governor gets to appoint their replacements. Gee it’s nice to be the party in power. Always sucks to be the party out of power.

  58. 58

    “Support for President Donald Trump among farmers has dipped as the trade war with China drags on, according to a Farm Journal Research survey published Tuesday.

    “Trump received about 70 percent of farmers’ votes in the 2016 election but a new poll … conducted the week of Aug. 6, found 52 percent of farmers view Trump as favorable and 43 percent consider him as unfavorable.”

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/15/trump-support-falls-sharply-among-farmers-says-farm-journal-poll.html

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: I won’t shed a tear for any farmer who voted for Trump. Elections have consequences. You get what you vote for.

  59. 59

    @17 once again RR is being disingenuous in his analysis, The woman has worked at the school for 15 years and has been with the same woman for 22. That may or may not be enough for the school to use the Catholic teachings argument in a court. She may not be able to do squat about the school simply not renewing her contract, but she has enough student support that the school is going to get some egg on its face over a decision that well could have come down from on high…..yes these schools have a beuracrcy….
    The school is between a rock and a hard place. Either fire her and have a nasty court battle, let her finish her contract, or give her a golden parachute. Perhaps it would have been best for the school to have gone ummm we have had a blind eye for 15 years perhaps blindness is good.

  62. 62

    @21 If that were the case the defense would mount a defense. This simply means the defense believes the Prosecution failed to prove their case, and they did ask the Judge to throw the case out, though most attorneys for defendants raise that motion. It is a tough call for defense attorneys, who do of course hope the jury came to believe the Prosecutors witnesses are lying. That is rather thin to hope on. Ballsy move maybe, then again they may think their defendant is screwed on some minor charge, so why irritate the jury as the jury may let him walk on it if the Prosecutor just looks mean and venal. Final statements maybe revealing, but what is critical is the jury instructions.

  63. 63

    @22 She should take it as a compliment as they see her as a Presidential contender whether she wants to be or not. She had the good sense to stay out of the 2016 Presidential race. She is now seasoned, is she spending time at the Iowa state fair?

  64. 64

    @28 You acknowledging the master and slave relationship and you need him?

    Bunny has leathers.

  65. 65

    @30 Of course it was ok if President Obama used the word. Though it can be said that Trump was not using the word in polite society if it was used. Of course this is doing what you accuse Trump and others doing in Elizabeth Warren situation. There is enough there to make the charge whether true or not, and if true it all depends on the framing, and if the public buys it, and the target will just crawl under a rock. Not happening with Trump so it’s a poor tactic. The word Nigger could again feature in Presidential debates as it did in the Lincoln-Douglas debates. It will be fine to read “Huckleberry Finn” unabridged.

  68. 68

    @36 Depending on circumstances the picking up of dry cleaning or a pharmacy run might be ok. Mortgage paperwork, guess she did not get a brownnoser, or thought she had one.

  69. 69

    @51 Seems to be your dream for here with the Dems giving the finger to determine the next boss. Probably will not work with New Yorkers, Closer to working on Californians, and maybe Washingtonians. May give Progressivism a black eye, but Americans are susceptible to the South American General syndrome…though they usually come with the army behind them. All rather un-American.

  70. 70

    @58 Unfortunately Democratic party has no ability to take advantage of this opportunity. What are you all going to do for farmers? More of the same?

  71. 71

    @65

    See if you can spot the difference…

    Old man calls black people Nigger.

    VS

    “Racism, we are not cured of it. And it’s not just a matter of it not being polite to say nigger in public. That’s not the measure of whether racism still exists or not,”

    I know, it’s really hard to spot. Think about it for a couple hours and get back to us.

  72. 72

    @70

    How about not get tariffs slapped on Potatoes, soybeans, beef….

    Short term…Stump speech “I will introduce legislation to overturn the Tariffs that are putting your very lifestyle and livelihood in jeopardy. Can you survive another two years of these job killing Tarriffs?”

    Long term, actually pass such legislation (saves farmers) and if 45 Vetoes, even the rosiest projections for midterms don’t include a veto proof majority, 2020…Stump speech, “He’s actually hurting you. Will you survive another four years of plummeting crop prices and closed overseas markets?”

  73. 73

    72,
    You’re wasting your time.

    A big part of Shortbus’ schtick is to wait for a little distance to open up, imply lots of “uncertainty”, and then pretend that whatever the latest PornSweat/ToddlerTorture/Drag-Him-To-Death outrage, “all politics” is equally guilty.

    Conveniently forgetting that “politics” is us. And what Trumpism teaches every single day is that some of us are evil fucks with absolutely no moral boundaries. And about 63 million of us are perfectly willing to elect those evil fucks if it gains them permission to tell racist jokes in the company lunchroom.

  74. 74

    Question for every one, liberal, conservative and libertarian:

    Are only white people racist, or can non-whites be racist, too?

  76. 76

    @74 Only you stupid humans are capable of being racist. The rest of us exist in a natural state of tolerance in which we merely eat each other, which is purely about calories and has nothing to do with genus, species, fur color, etc.

  77. 77

    @59 Thanks for your analysis. I’m sure her lawyer will pay you what it’s worth.

    The real question is whether there are laws prohibiting discrimination based on sexual orientation. If not, she would have to prove some sort of breach of contract, or breach of implied contract, to get compensation; and that won’t get her her job back.

    Also, keep in mind that Trump and the GOP want to legalize this kind of discrimination, and not just by churches and church-affiliated schools whose doctrine doesn’t embrace the reality that some people are born gay.

    Nor do they merely want to legalize discrimination against gays in employment. They want to allow businesses to refuse service to gay people.

    And, although they haven’t overtly said it because they’re not sure they have enough public backing for it yet, one may suspect there’s at least some possibility they want to throw gays off rooftops, too.

  78. 78

    @62 When your client has committed literally dozens of felonies, and all his associates are crooks, too, it’s basically a no-brainer that you don’t put either him, his bookkeeper, or anyone else who knows anything about his affairs on a witness stand where they’ll be subject to cross-examination. Here’s a refresher on basic trial strategy:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAM2Q7Sqlbk

  79. 79

    74,
    race isn’t the issue.
    “Whiteness” is.
    Not Caucasianness. Not blackness, or brownness, or whatever.

    It’s your idea of yourself as “white” and therefor kinda, sorta, absolutely very much special, even if you never, ever admit it. It’s an idea that’s baked into the culture and reinforced every day in every way. It gives you the liberty to assert with absolute confidence and not even the slightest hint of doubt, much less irony, that academic performance gaps between racial populations in public schools is because of “weak family structures”, and “lack of community support”.

    It’s what makes you feel an overpowering sense of outrage if you, as a “white” person, are among a half dozen top scoring applicants for an academic or employment position, were to be passed over in favor of the one minority in the group. Yet it indemnifies you completely from even remotely sympathizing with that minority if they were to be passed over.

    It’s what puts you in such a state of confusion when you see another “white” person called out, and perhaps even brought low (however briefly) for using marginalizing, dehumanizing, insensitive language toward racial minorities, while simultaneously seeing non-“whites” using similar language with little or no social opprobrium. It’s the invisible wall between “doing” and “being” that keeps you safe in a world made especially for you. It’s the wall that is the foundation of your stupid question.

    Of course non-“white” people can be racist by doing racist things. But they can never be “white”. And they are not the people who need to change in order for things to get better for everyone.

  80. 80

    @66 She had nothing I needed or wanted that I couldn’t get somewhere else 30 years ago, either. I’ve been quite content to completely ignore her.

  81. 81

    @79 It’s calling the cops on black people for being in some space that you think belongs to white people, e.g. a campus lounge, an apartment swimming pool, a public park, or for that matter, driving on a public street. You have to be on the getting end to understand how irritating that is, so, naturally, he doesn’t understand what’s wrong with it.

  82. 82

    @ 75

    Wherein Katrina Pierson is caught red-handed making shit up.

    Wherein Nancy Pelosi is caught red-handed making shit up.

    Nancy Pelosi twists an old McConnell quote into a ‘racist statement’

    Democrats have some­times placed McConnell’s “one-term” com­ment in the wrong year, but we are un­aware of a seni­or Democrat bun­gling the ac­tu­al quote so much in serv­ice of an in­cen­di­ar­y charge. Pelosi earns Four Pinocchios.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/08/14/nancy-pelosi-twists-an-old-mcconnell-quote-into-racist-statement/?utm_term=.0cffe9ffc58b

    That’s one Pinocchio for each time Nancy Pelosi blinks in a day.

  83. 83

    “…our primary legislative goals are to repeal and replace the health spending bill; to end the bailouts; cut spending; and shrink the size and scope of government…”

    How many Pinocchios is that?
    #winningwhining
    #youbuiltthat

  84. 84

    @ 79

    race isn’t the issue.
    “Whiteness” is.

    Race isn’t the issue. Spinning race to advantage is. See @ 82, for starters.

    Oh, and there’s this:

    Like the WikiLeaks dump — which severely damaged the Clinton campaign by taking it off message, but never produced a smoking gun — Manigault Newman’s tapes, according to someone who has listened to them, are juicy to listen to but ultimately don’t contain any bombshell about the president or his family.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/14/white-house-staff-omarosa-tapes-777490

  85. 85

    @82 You omitted this:

    “McConnell: If President Obama does a Clintonian backflip, if he’s willing to meet us halfway on some of the biggest issues, it’s not inappropriate for us to do business with him.”

    Thanks for bringing to our attention the utter hypocrisy of this man and his party.

  86. 86

    McConnell is a liar when he insinuates Obama wouldn’t meet Republicans halfway on big issues. That’s exactly what Obama did when he fashioned the Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare) in the mold of Romneycare, a program designed by a conservative think tank, in the process rejecting his own party’s preference for government-run single payer. I would say he went much farther than halfway with that. And what did McConnell’s tribe do in response? To a man and woman, not a single one of them in either house voted for it.

    Fuck them. And fuck you. Your ilk has shown us the only way to get anything done in this country is to get a majority, do what needs to be done, and shove it up your collective asses.

  87. 87

    74 – Yes, non-whites can be extremely racist. I’ve witnessed Asians being extremely racist towards black people, in my travels around the world. Of course, black people can be equally as racist as any white or Asian person. Some of the “leadership” of the black community is extremely racist.

    Racism seems to be an epidemic.

  88. 88

    @ 85

    That Clintonian backflip apparently was done with the props phone and pen.

    @ 86

    I would say he went much farther than halfway with that.

    Sure, but you also have said that a guy killed while bull-rushing a cop somehow was a ‘fleeing felon’. Your perspective is more than a bit questionable, Roger Dumbfuck Rabbit.

  90. 90

    If I were a worker, I wouldn’t want this judge deciding my case.

    “When a New York manufacturer created a new, spinoff company to avoid bargaining with unionized workers, federal regulators and a panel of appellate judges said the manufacturer broke the law and violated its employees’ rights.”

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/brett-kavanaugh-union-busting-employer-workers-rights_us_5b732521e4b025e3596b88c7

    The problem is, you can’t affidavit an appellate judge or justice for bias, so if this shmuck gets on the Supreme Court, the best solution is to not be a worker.

    I don’t work. Why should I? In America, workers are little better than slaves, and productive work is punished, not rewarded. Workers are disrespected and mistreated. They get the least rewards and highest taxes; wages are the most tax-disfavored type of income there is. You’re infinitely better off being a capitalist. The notion that you get ahead in America through hard work is a myth propagated by the Owning Class that benefits from your hard work, because you sure don’t benefit from it. I worked my ass off for 40 years, and all it got me was40 years of hard work. Now I’m a member of the idle rich class, and I’ve never had it so good. Everyone should do what I did, which is drop out of the workforce and live off other people’s labor and sweat. That’s immoral as heck, but it’s how our system works, and you can’t fight the system, so you have to go with the flow.

  92. 92

    It tells me that nominating Hillary cost y’all more than the White House.


    Goldy Retweeted

    Peter Daou✔
    @peterdaou
    CONSIDER THIS:

    It would take only TWO Republican senators to bring this Trump train to a screeching halt.

    Just TWO patriots to prevent this unmitigated disaster.

    And not ONE has the courage or integrity to switch over and vote with Democrats.

    What does that tell you?

    6h

  93. 93

    “Racism seems to be an epidemic.”
    And “whiteness” seems to be a recessive genetic disorder.

    So there is indeed hope. Unfortunately heterozygous “carriers” seem to find each other and breed with alarming fidelity.
    Must have something to do with the “Green Beard” effect.
    #youbuiltthat

  95. 95

    “On that show, Nehlen proudly recounted telling a Jewish magazine editor to ‘self-deport’ and ‘eat a bullet.’ He also told the hosts — who support the creation of a white ethnostate — that he was ‘honored’ to be a guest on their show. …

    “[He appeared] in January as a guest on the podcast of former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard David Duke. He talked with Duke about how ‘Jews control the media’ and discussed turning Trump’s proposed border wall on the Mexican border into a fortress for gunning down immigrants. ‘Armed machine gun turrets every 300 yards,’ he told Duke of his vision for the wall. ‘And you can automate those. Anyone who approaches that barrier will be treated as an enemy combatant. Man, woman or child.'”

    Two years ago, he was endorsed by Sarah Palin, Ann Coulter, and Steve Bannon — this is who they are now. But he is NOT going to replace Paul Ryan in Congress. In Tuesday’s GOP primary, he finished second. That’s still a strong showing for an out-and-out racist and anti-Semite who publicly advocated the automated machine gunning of Mexican children. But this is who Republicans are now.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/paul-nehlen-white-supremacist-loses-wisconsin-congressional-primary_us_5b6ded0ee4b0530743c9dbf9

  96. 96

    @88 “Your perspective is more than a bit questionable, Roger Dumbfuck Rabbit.”

    I’m not the dumbfuck who supports, shills for, and votes for the party that has adopted the Nazis’ racial superiority platform more or less intact.

  97. 97

    When racist white cops use unarmed black men for target practice, and white people summon these cops to run off black people simply because they’re black, you have to be pretty damn Aryan to think that racism isn’t the issue. Even most other whites get it.

  98. 98

    @87 True, as far as it goes, but Asians and other races are not, generally speaking, the cause or source of institutionalized racism against blacks in America. It’s not the Asians who are calling the cops for “walking while black.” They have their own problems with discrimination. The only group in America that doesn’t experience systematic racial discrimination is whites.

  99. 99

    @84 “Race isn’t the issue.”

    Funny, coming as it does from a racist who will need an alibi if our loon ever gets lynched.

  101. 101

    23, 74

    “…affluent, elite, healthy, and highly educated coastal progressives.”

    That’s all you need to know about McFuckhead and the rodent.

Can’t Bring Yourself to Type the Word “Ass”?

Eager to share our brilliant political commentary and blunt media criticism, but too genteel to link to horsesass.org? Well, good news, ladies: we also answer to HASeattle.com, because, you know, whatever. You're welcome!

Follow Goldy

[iire_social_icons]

HA Commenting Policy

It may be hard to believe from the vile nature of the threads, but yes, we have a commenting policy. Comments containing libel, copyright violations, spam, blatant sock puppetry, and deliberate off-topic trolling are all strictly prohibited, and may be deleted on an entirely arbitrary, sporadic, and selective basis. And repeat offenders may be banned! This is my blog. Life isn’t fair.