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The gun is getting smokier:
“Three days after then-candidate Donald Trump appointed his foreign policy team in March 2016, adviser George Papadopoulos emailed seven campaign officials with the subject line ‘Meeting with Russian Leadership — Including Putin,’ according to a report from The Washington Post.
“Papadopoulos offered to facilitate ‘a meeting between us and the Russian leadership to discuss U.S.-Russia ties under President Trump,’ according to internal campaign emails read to The Post. The emails also expressed that Papadopoulos’ Russian contacts welcomed the potential meeting.
“The conversations are recorded as part of the more than 20,000 pages of documents forfeited this month to congressional committees by the Trump campaign after they were reviewed by White House and defense lawyers. The selection pertaining to Papadopoulos’ emails were read to The Post by a person with access to them, and portions of the text were confirmed by two additional sources who also had access to the exchanges.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tr.....ts-report/
I’m almost surprised that the SchizoPoodle isn’t in here defending the Nazi car-killer.
Apparently the 4-Channers are now accusing some dumb kid who’s father used to own the car used in the attack as the “real killer” and that somehow the Police have decided to frame an innocent man for the crime instead of arresting that kid who wasn’t anywhere within 100 miles of the attack when it occurred.
Interesting to note that the so-called “alt-right” promotes the notion that the DNSWP was actually a Liberal, Leftist political movement in Germany. So they wave their swastika flags and deny that they’re Nazis. They wave their stupid Tennessee battle flags and deny that they’re racists. They salute those flags with the Bellamy salute, and deny that they’re Fascists. They make a claim on the First Amendment and then attack anyone who responds to them as being anti-free speech. They claim that the United States is a “Christian Nation” and point their fingers at Iran as the example of what religious tyranny does to a nation.
Then they blame the Jews for the hornets nests that get stirred up by their words.
They are promoting Tim McVeigh as a national hero, and deny that he was a terrorist. They scream from the rooftops about Islam being a murderous terroristic religion because of the open slaughter in the Middle East, and then go on to demand that all Moslems be killed and their temples destroyed.
Welcome to Fat Donny’s world.
There were plenty of Jews and Gays and misfits in the original Brownshirt brigades in the 1930s. Ernst Rohm was a gay man who associated with Jews and Queers and Artists and Writers; Intellectuals and free-thinkers who were offering a sense of purpose to the National-Socialist movement in Germany and wrote to rationalize the words that Hitler was using at the time. They agreed with that “new way” that Adolph Hitler was offering. They were so busy cheering for “Their Team” that they refused to see what was being shoved right into their faces. “Their Team” winning the game was all they cared about. They didn’t give a shit about what that winning meant. They didn’t give a shit about their Dear Leader being a drug-addled lunatic who openly lied to them about the real purposes behind the new way he was offering. All they cared about was “Their Team” winning the game. They were going to make room for more Germans to populate the world as was their right and duty. They saw Germany as being the sole purveyor of all things civilized and the only true source of everything that made up the modern world.
The night of the long knives changed that, for most folks anyway. Krystallnacht cemented the real intentions of the DNSWP for the Germans, and enough of them agreed with it that they joined the Military and marched with the Einsatzgruppen into Poland, Hungary and the Balkans with the greatest enthusiasm to murder as many people as they could for the FatherLand. They wanted to make room for more Good Germans to live, and to make sure that the Good Germans who didn’t want what Hitler was offering learned what being a Good German really meant.
They marched into Russia to their own slaughter, all while claiming to defend themselves from Communism, and then accused the Russians of being murderous, uncivilized thugs. They enslaved Jews, Gypsies, East Europeans and dissidents and justified it by accusing those people of attempting to enslave them. They force-marched ethnic expatriate Germans back into the Reich and slaughtered them when they balked at the notion of being robbed of the shops, farms and factories that they had built in the places their ancestors had settled.
Fat Donny isn’t Hitler. He’s a buffoon, a blow-hard pretender and the public dumbfuck face of the new Fascism. He’s too stupid, and too ignorant to adequately represent what the Corporatists are doing. The GOP has long held the notion that they don’t want a Leader, they want a drooling imbecile to be there to just sign the papers, make the speeches and act the jackass while they work their real program behind the scenes. Ronald Reagan demonstrated that perfectly, as did Dubbya. Fat Donny is just the retarded kid who they talked into pulling the fire alarm. The GOP is still sore from losing the State’s War and being forced to fight on the wrong side of the Second World War, and they see Fat Donny as their chance to rectify those mistakes.
All Fat Donny is doing is setting us up to accept the next supertyrant. Mike Pence would love to be that man. As would Paul Ryan or Jared Kushner. They assume that they can say anything they want, do anything they want to the point of Felony and nobody can touch them, because they’re the “Shapers of History” and their destiny requires them to take on the responsibility to form the society they believe to be the only true way. They believe themselves to be martyrs for the cause and their actions to be totally selfless in the intent.
It took Fuckface two days to condemn Nazis.
Yesterday it took Fuckface 54 minutes to lash out and condemn Merck CEO for stepping down from Manuf Council.
Bret Stephens may have jumped the shark.
Uh huh. ‘Cept last I checked the dirty, filthy, hippie media (and senior Senators from his own party) weren’t demanding that Fuckface call out “Southern Terrorism”, “Christian Terrorism”, or “Republican Terrorism”. Stephens has a gift for specious argument. But under normal circumstances he manages to avoid taking a giant shit on innocent dead girls.
All he had to do was condemn Nazis and the KKK who rioted in VA, killed a girl, and injured dozens of others. Nazis. The Klan. Everyone else did the goddamn parsing for him ahead of time. He didn’t have to struggle with “shaming” the alt-right or the militia movement (although they richly deserve shaming). Nazis and The Klan. It’s like struggling not to offend Snidely Whiplash.
That man occupying the Presidency just gave an abhorrent performance. He took back the statement he made Saturday, obviously against his will. He is back to equivalency between the sides. One side killed. One side came armed to the teeth spouting hatred. And that side found comfort in that man’s performance
“Thank you President Trump for your honesty & courage to tell the truth about #Charlottesville & condemn the leftist terrorists in BLM/Antifa ” David Duke
Used to be there was a consensus in this country that Nazi’s were beyond contempt and were far worse than any others. They were outside our political norms. We now have a man in the White House who sees Nazi’z as equivalent to other ideologies.
He is evil
Only one party and one President in 21st century American politics has to worry about losing votes for saying, “Nazis are bad” and sticking to that statement.
Mnuchin and Cho (Mrs. Majority Leader) stand approvingly beside Fuckface as he vents White Rage.
This courting of white power isn’t some fringe thing. It’s not a Nazi thing, nor even an alt-Right thing. It’s not even a Fuckface thing.
It’s a Republican thing.
It has crossed my mind that Robert E. Lee would likely be appalled by those who currently claim to be acting in his “honor”.
@ AF @ 9
It isn’t about the reality of the individual. It is the myth that they created around the name. It’s about choosing their side based on lies that they would never admit are false notions.
It’s the same thing they did with Jesus.
Their view of the world is utterly colorless. There are no shades of grey. There is black and white. Anything that attempts to illustrate a spectrum is immediately and often violently quashed. The Nazis are what they are, simply because they aren’t rational or intelligent enough to be anything else. Education is utterly lost on those people. I suspect that a large number of them come from families where Father was often quick with his fists, but was able to rationalize it through his love for them and above all else, his love of Jesus.
“Arbeit Macht Frei” is a Lutherian, Calvinist idea. They too believed that God was with them.
All things, big and small, can be justified and rationalized in religion. Just ask the Jews.
With this terrorist attack at the Nazi rally in Charlottesville, they now have a precedent, and now tacit permission from the President to continue their activities and escalate the violence.
Just as they have always promised to do.
@2 “Fat Donny isn’t Hitler. He’s a buffoon, a blow-hard pretender and the public dumbfuck face of the new Fascism. He’s too stupid, and too ignorant to adequately represent what the Corporatists are doing. ”
Spot on. Trump is a disgrace to the office of the President of the United States of America.
Anybody get the irony of Trump holding his news conference in the lobby of Trump Tower? After, the office of the president has essentially just become a rubber stamp for corporate wishes. Why remodel the White House? Save money, run it out of an office tower, after all, the conservatives have long wanted policies and a leader to run the country as a business. The problem is, a government isn’t a capitalistic business, that isn’t the function of a government.
The Republicans are ruining this country with their myopic vision and greed.
Puddy should be so proud to support a white man that supports the KKK. Nice to have friends in high places. Go ahead, try and defend a racist fascist. Trump showed his true beliefs and colors this week. Sadly Pence is just another extreme to contend with.
I never, ever, thought I would long for the days of What a Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Al Haig.
11,
“Show me where Puddy said..!”
Bank on it. His Cheeto Jesus walks on water.
Or is that a sea of bloody shoes?
@12
It isn’t what Piddles says, it is what he doesn’t say. In that sense, he is just like The Donald.
Piddles hasn’t come out and said, “Donald Trump is a racist, is supported by racists, and condones racism and domestic terrorism. By not outright denouncing him, he is giving his support to, for, and of, him.
I’ll give Fat Donny credit, he was looking for a way to get his Russia problem off the front page. Kudos to him for doing it so well! Putin must be laughing his bare-chested ass off at Trump and the US.
Somewhere Trent Lott is waxing poetic about Strom Thurmond and raising a toast to the “good ol’ days”.
My goodness. That was some damn strange modern-day presidenting we saw today. I blame Doctor Dumbfuck. Just look at what his 4,000+ hashtags hath wrought.
I don’t see how the nation could possibly be any worse off, even if they made the loon president. Our only hope is that enough Republicans come to their senses.
“HOUSE REPUBLICANS WANT TO GO BACK TO INVESTIGATING CLINTON”
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/house-judiciary-committee-republicans-hillary-clinton
Fuck.
Only “one side” mows down people with cars.
Damn the trolls are scarce…
Yep, a racism, nazism, white nationalism enabler…
Link for the troll’s “racist enabler” krap…
Too funny!
@16
“Sticks and stones may break my bones, but my MOPAR will kill you.” I’m surprised that hasn’t shown up on a t-shirt yet.
Interesting that he used a Fiat-Chrysler car, an Italian-owned company. A true fascist country back in the day. Hitler and Mussolini would be so proud!
@14
Don’t blame Dr. Dumbfuck, he was too obsessed with Hillary to really know what he was getting into by supporting Trump. Just like Congress, they want to go back and snarf the seat she sat in while in the Senate so they can get that sent and go on another worthless hunt for nothing. Rather than work on real issues, because they have proven that they can’t lead in any true sense of the word, they go back to what they think they do well on. Just shameful.
If the alt-right, Nazi’s, white supremacists, and the KKK had any stones, they would hold their marches, not in the South, but in places like Detroit or Chicago.
Where’s Piddles? In hiding? From clustertrump blowback? More likely because Trump’s friends are coming for him. Not friendly-like. His error was going skinhead. When he did they noticed his hue. White supremacy is, after all, about whites eliminating non-whites.
Which do you think it is?
Republicans: o.k. i give you that trump is a nazi sympathizer, but i still support him because there was no chance Hillary would give me big tax breaks.
Or
Republicans: o.k. i give you that trump is a nazi sympathizer, but i still support him because he’s not a democrat
Or
Fuck them, burn it down.
I don’t see how Trump’s empowering of neo-Nazis, skinheads, the Klan, and white supremacists works out well for Piddles. Or David Clarke.
Maybe Clarke was expecting to be put in charge of WH liaison with white supremacists or something like that. Problem is, that job’s already taken by Bannon. At any rate, sucking up to Orange Jesus hasn’t produced a job for him.
20,
none of the above.
It’s this:
Republicans: o.k. i give you that trump is a nazi sympathizer, but i still support him because, when you peel away the thin veneer of fake piety, phony patriotism, and absentminded gesturing to intellect, I too am a Nazi sympathizer.
@23 That’s kinda my thoughts, too.
Roger Rabbit made a rare appearance at DL last evening. First time since moving from Montlake. Took only half an hour of driving around to find the place. The geography in that part of town is a little weird. Darryl’s gotten married since I last saw him. He still looks the same. We discussed immortality. The trolls can’t prove I’m not an immortal rabbit-god because it’s impossible to prove I’m mortal until I die, and I haven’t died, so they’d have to prove a negative. Not much they can do about me refusing to die. They’re screwed.
Scary times in the US now, I’m seeing more and more Americans moving to Canada.
If one of them maybe you check out my website: http://eric-smith.ca/