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Sausage-making that the DNC – and Goldy – really don’t want you to see. Except when Goldy wants you to know that he knows where the bodies are buried, that is.
“The Court would have to find that people who fervently supported Bernie Sanders and who purportedly didn’t know that this favoritism was going on would have not given to Mr. Sanders, to Senator Sanders, if they had known that there was this purported favoritism.”
http://observer.com/2017/05/dn.....upporters/
Yup, that’s the DNC, admitting they tipped the scales in favor of #CrookedHillary over Bernie Sanders.
And some of y’all libbies are fervent and purported.
Well, the Obama years were certainly good to me.
Why did Trump win? New research by Democrats offers a worrisome answer.
A shockingly large percentage of these Obama-Trump voters said Democrats’ economic policies will favor the wealthy — twice the percentage that said the same about Trump.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/05/01/why-did-trump-win-new-research-by-democrats-offers-a-worrisome-answer/?tid=pm_pop&utm_term=.e3e730afac30
And yet it was YLB who wore the OFA kneepads for 8 years.
Go figure.
@1 That’s a legal argument, not a finding of fact, dummy.
@2 “A shockingly large percentage of these Obama-Trump voters said Democrats’ economic policies will favor the wealthy — twice the percentage that said the same about Trump.”
How’s that working for them so far?
“@1 That’s a legal argument, not a finding of fact, dummy.”
And the whole Crooked HIllary thing is just a flat-out lie, so what’s your point?
@5 His point, as I read his comments, is that Hillary’s supporters shouldn’t have helped her win the nomination. They just should have cheered and waved signs and let it go at that.
Seattle Times’ summary of yesterday’s peaceful May Day protests in Seattle: “Zero property damage, zero injuries to police officers.”
Boob’s gonna have a sad.
@ 7
…zero injuries to police officers.
Roger Dumbfuck Rabbit’s gonna have a sad.
@5:
Oh, I understood that all right; to Dumbfuck, Hillary is by definition not a legitimate contender for our Presidency, and therefore, it follows that all efforts to get her there must be morally wrong. Said efforts include members of the Democratic Party working to ensure that she, a longtime Democrat, get the Democratic Party’s nomination.
No, I was wondering why you’d bother to point out the difference between a finding of fact and anything else, given that Dumbfuck couldn’t posssibly care less if anything he spouts here is factual or not. :-)
1,
Breking news, dumbfuck: old people casually using the term “y’all” is about as played as using the term “played”.
9,
I havent bothered with any sort of formal statistical analysis, but it seems to me Dumbfuck displays a decidedly counterfactual bias in his comments. He really just might be a socially awkward Moldovan teenager pimping hashtags for kopeks.
Looks like Melania and Le Pen use the same speech writer.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/02/marine-le-pen-francois-fillon-phrases-may-day-speech
Chechnya is calling for parents of gay children to kill their children or they will – they have one month to comply.
If the US doesn’t speak up about this or doesn’t take some kind of actiong, I see no need to protect or take any action against a nuclear armed North Korea or nor to protect against any act of Terrorism.
If we need any type of Travel Ban in this Country or Sanctions it should be anyone entering in this Country from Russia or against these people.
The actions of the GOP validate these people – be proud you fucking monster Repukes.
@8 Drinking wood alcohol for breakfast again? Careful, doc. That stuff makes x-rays look blurry.
@9 “I was wondering why you’d bother”
I find reminding him what a dumbfuck he is amusing.
@9
Oh, I understood that all right; to Dumbfuck, Hillary is by definition not a legitimate contender for our Presidency, and therefore, it follows that all efforts to get her there must be morally wrong.
Actually, the DNC is a partisan entity and can do whatever it wants.
The moral wrongness is in doing it and then claiming to the world, all evidence to the contrary, that they did not do it.
In that context, #CrookedHillary is the embodiment of the dishonesty that is the DNC, and is the perfect standard-bearer for such blatant dishonesty.
Which worked out very well for the other side.
@16 “Actually, the DNC is a partisan entity and can do whatever it wants.”
I see you finally pulled something profound out of the deep inner recesses of your convoluted mind.
@16 “The moral wrongness is in doing it and then claiming to the world, all evidence to the contrary, that they did not do it.”
Doctor Dumbfuck just scaled to new heights of partisan hypocrisy. How’s the O2 density up there?
…doing it and then claiming to the world, all evidence to the contrary, that they did not do it.
Sean Spicer’s WH job description has not been made public.
How the fuck did some disgraced radiologist cruising Coupeville Wolves parking lots get his hands on it?
Not a Fox affiliate. ABC.
Income tax revenue collapses; Malloy says taxing the rich doesn’t work
HARTFORD, Conn. (WTNH)–Connecticut’s state budget woes are compounding with collections from the state income tax collapsing, despite two high-end tax hikes in the past six years.
It means the current budget year, which ends in just two months, is now seriously in the red and next year’s deficit has ballooned to $2.2 billion.
It’s happening because the state of Connecticut depends too much on its wealthy residents, and wealthy residents are leaving, and the ones that are staying are making less, or are not taking their profits from the stock market until they see what happens in Washington.
http://wtnh.com/2017/04/28/inc.....esnt-work/
Whidbey Island, or at least the ferries, may get more crowded when all of those two-home wealthy Seattleites decide their primary home should be in Island County.
Democrat CT governor Malloy:
“The reality is that in Connecticut we get most of our money from very few people and that can produce some very wild swings.”
Do tell.
WaPo piece yesterday about young Julian’s bro Joaquin, who’s taking a pass on challenging Ted Cruz.
But this was the important part of the story:
Adding to the Democratic Party’s challenge, statewide campaigns in Texas require a presence in 20 media markets, including three of the most expensive in the country -— meaning that a competitive race against Cruz would be a multimillion dollar affair at a time when Democrats will be defending 25 seats across the country.
“I wouldn’t count on any support from the DSCC, because they’ve got their hands full with trying to reelect 25 Democrats,” Castro said at a recent Washington Post Live event when asked about a possible Senate run, referring to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/05/01/joaquin-castro-decides-not-to-run-against-ted-cruz-in-2018-at-least-for-now/?utm_term=.5e000016804e
I’m sure Dems will do fine as long as people like YLB open their wallets instead of just their mouths.
So good luck with that.
@16:
Still having trouble with the concept that what you originally quoted was not a finding of fact, eh?
Also, Connecticut has the interesting property that most of the high-income residents live close to the border with New York, so moving is not a big deal. I somehow doubt the same idea applies in Washington state.
If it makes you feel better, we can tax capital gains instead. (And before you trot out your old tired nag about unsteady revenues, bear in mind you’re fooling only yourself, since everyone knows sales tax revenues fluctuate more.)
@22
Last time I checked Florida doesn’t share a border with CT, tensor.
Dan Haar: Two Billionaires Head For Florida, Deepening CT’s Cash Crisis
Not just those two, who are two of the three richest people in the state.
But this is hardly just about bragging rights or symbolism. These guys could generate tens of millions of dollars a year for state coffers at a time when Connecticut faces a projected $1.2 billion shortfall over the next 16 months and $2 billion a year in 2018 and 2019.
It gets worse. Two other Connecticut billionaires are “on the verge” of leaving, according to Sen. L. Scott Frantz, the Greenwich Republican who has sounded alarms about the flight of the super-rich since he joined the General Assembly in 2009. One has already started changing his home state, a process that can take more than two years.
http://www.courant.com/busines.....olumn.html
You mentioned the state of Washington, tensor, but not the city of Seattle, which is considering a high-earners income tax. How difficult would it be to leave the city of Seattle and avoid the income tax, while still working here and generating the income?
Taxation drives behavior. You libbies repeatedly fail to appreciate that.
@ 22
…bear in mind you’re fooling only yourself, since everyone knows sales tax revenues fluctuate more.
Show your work on this claim, please. Here’s a retort:
Sales tax was the most volatile major tax in only three of the 45 states that impose it: Nevada and Washington, which have no personal income tax, and Colorado, the only state where sales tax was more volatile than personal income tax among 38 states that collect both.
http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/re.....d-tax-type
Which is why Mark Zuckerberg, Larry Ellison, David Koch, Sergey Brin, Larry Page, Laurene Jobs, Donald Bren, Abigail Johnson, Ray Dalio, Carl Icahn and Elon Musk all live in Seattle.. Oh excuse me! Bellevue.
High tax states loss, our gain. Who’d a thunk it?
The Dems should have run Bernie Sanders instead of Hillary Clinton.
Wonder if Debbie Wassermann-Schultz and the DNC have any regrets about ass-holing Bernie last year.
“Which worked out very well for the other side.”
Yeah, Putin is totally pleased, you fucking traitor.
“Two Billionaires Head For Florida”
They should move to your beloved motherfucking Russia.
@20 I’ll be satisfied if Trump has to pay the same tax rate I do.
@22 Well, we do share a border with Idaho, although most people making more than $15,000 a year won’t feel very comfortable with the socioeconomic culture there.
Rut roh.
Scalise’s assessment follows a similar attempt by the White House to lower expectations after a weekend of making lofty pronouncements of imminent success.
“We’re not there yet,” White House press secretary Sean Spicer said at a press briefing Monday afternoon, hours after other top White House officials all but predicted an imminent legislative victory for Trump.
One might think the very presence of Sean Spicer would permanently lower expectations to far below any level which could possibly be required.
@23 “How difficult would it be to leave the city of Seattle and avoid the income tax, while still working here and generating the income?”
Difficult enough that plenty of people are forking over $800k for cramped, outdated, ex-working class houses to avoid the suburban commute.
@30 “There are no Americans in Baghdad!” has been replaced by “There are no Democrats in Washington!” Different cities, different PR flacks, same bullshit. The sun also rises.
Show your work on this claim, please.
Um, ok:
Sales tax was the most volatile major tax in only three of the 45 states that impose it: Nevada and Washington,
So, reliance on the sales tax makes it a volatile source of revenue, right here in Washington state. That’s rather the opposite of arguing in favor of keeping things that way here, hm?
Make all the self-serving selective quotations you like. You’re not fooling anyone except yourself, and that’s just not a high bar.
@1
Mmmmkay. The party apparently tipped the scales in favor of a lifelong member of the party over one who joined the party to run for president and is now back to calling himself not a party member.
Bernie Bros. can be upset about that but there is precedent.
Lyndon LaRouche, “I am a Democrat and running as a Democrat” Democratic party, “The hell you are and we aren’t going to give you any money like we do to actual democrats.”
David Duke. “I am a Democrat and running for the Democratic nomination for President!” Democratic party, “The Hell you are!” “O.k. I’m a republican! and running for the Republican nomination for President” “The Hell you are!” “O.K. I’m Reform Party!”
Don’t know if this has come up but Congress is reading the tea leaves and telling a very unpopular executive that if they plan to go for it on Marijuana they’re on their own.
New budget includes
@26
The DemsBernie should haverun Bernie Sanders instead of Hillary Clinton.actually been a Democrat. You know, fundraised for them while a Senator, campaigned for other Democrats over his three decades in Congress.FIFY
Taxation drives behavior. You libbies repeatedly fail to appreciate that.
Which taxes must we raise, and to which rates, to get you to move to a low-tax paradise?
Just list them. We’ll do our very best to oblige, and then you can demonstrate, by your actions, the validity of your point.
There is still a Seattle? Not too much of a after May Day hang over. Is there a special perfume of Odor de Tear Gasso meets Mary Jane to bring back the memories?
@13 Isn’t Chechnya one of those countries that has claimed there are no gay people there? So they are not expecting any killings as there are no gay children there. There may not be any happy children.
Maybe all the potential problem protesters had to work. Time to make May Day a local holiday in Seattle. The Wobblies would be so happy.
@14 And can make you miss when shooting at tax collectors.
Briefly perusing the media today, sure seems like they are teeing Ryan up for the big take down. I honestly don’t really care who the stupid beer-drunk hillbillies choose to run their Dunning-Kruger demonstration, so I have no idea who’s on deck.
Any guesses as to how long Ryan lasts, and which anthropomorphic goat takes his place?
@17 And the Peoples Communist Party of China is a partisan organization and does what it wants as well. Doesn’t mean it’s an ethical, moral or supportive organization of freedom and democratic principles. Perhaps the Democratic party is a little jealous though.
@21 This is the problem with the current leadership in the Democratic party. Rather than set down a marker against Cruz who is vulnerable in Texas, which will help some of those 25 Democrats they are trying to reelect…minus whoever retires. The Democrats have managed to not learn one thing from Trump. There is a point where more money in any particular race is frankly just wasted money. The Democratic party shouldn’t be spending tons of money on most of those races. A couple of million tops on most of them. Now taking out Cruz would be good politics and might be worth $10 million out of the parties coffers. Better to end the mans career now or guess who will be running for the Republicans in 2020 or 2024. Or is he the guy Hilliary wants to run against and loose too?
@27 Unfortunately you can’t get many billionaires to move their money to Russia as Russia is known for seizing assets. If not outright theft.
@29 I totally support RR’s call to build a border wall with Idaho. Do we have to go around the whole state though to keep them from going around the wall?
#31 But the flying cars are finally here. Two different models. It’s totally possible to live in Concrete and fly to work. Please remember to mention my name to the realtor you speak to in Concrete so I get my cut. Congrats on avoiding those taxes, and being one of the first to lead the Jetson life style., Maybe the realtor will through in a free Roomba. You don’t have to name it Rosie, but you may.
@34 Big difference as in how many delegates did Lynden Leroach or David Duke have? And yes the Republican current process is more Democratic than the Democratic Party, a party that at one time actually was proud and committed to actually being Democratic. It was a big tent in those days, Now it’s more of an upscale yurt.
@35 That is about medical marijuana which generates little if any sales tax for any state, expect perhaps those states that have legalized marijuana for personal use. Ultimately congress has the power, and Congress is not legalizing marijuana, which is what they would do if they wanted to place an executive and AT Sessions in their place. No this way Congressmen and woman get to look good doing something entirely of no merit (there is already Federal law on medical marijuana in states) just a feel good measure, that doesn’t put any kind of stop on the AT in going after marijuana. Besides the administration can just use states police forces to do the dirty work.
@36 Nice, but it’s all about actually winning. Which is why both parties tried to get Ike to run for them. The man was not a party member of either party. Same would be true if the Democratic party cold have gotten Norman Schwarzkopf to run or if he had run as a democrat. Your argument doesn’t hold water.
@ 43 As was said above, Bernie was not a member of the party until he wanted to run for president, he did not, and does not have a history of raising money for the party or participating in its governance. And at present he does not call himself a Democrat. Yes, I would have voted for him, but his treatment was not unreasonable.
@35 Looks like Sessions will have to leave sick people alone and content himself with persecuting recreational users. I’m truly shocked! Who would expect such restraint from a GOP Congress?
@39 Maybe they believed they had already killed them all when they made that claim.
@49
But it represents the first time a Congressional act has addressed the issue. I’d call that progress.
The political cost for going after recreational just got placed squarely on the current President and AG. It’s an issue that drives people to the polls even in red states so…
@42 I don’t know which Ryan you are talking about. I thought perhaps he is a pitcher for the Mariners, but James Paxton is pitching today. The M’s are 6 games down, but not in the basement. Maybe a anthropomorphic goat would help the team. It probably would do wonders for ticket sales since Seattleites are fickle in their support of local sports teams.
@42 Issa.
@43 If Democrats are going to be compared with communists, then it’s fair play to compare Republicans with Nazis.
Bernie’s a 75 year old man whose been in elected office for over 30 years, representing himself throughout that time as almost anything other than a Democrat. Keeps his own counsel. Raises his own money. Shares money, resources, staff, and support with absolutely no one. That entitles him to act independently whenever and however he likes. But most of the time it would also cost him the support of the parties and their staff. There’s nothing unusual about that. Certainly nothing nefarious. Little wonder that practically the only people who bring this up are hillbilly Trump-traitors and Russian operatives who have always despised the Democratic Party.
Had he won the nomination you can be sure the party would get behind him. But he did not. He went his own way always as a loner with his own personal agenda. Some may find that admirable. But it also comes at a cost.
@46 Walls can always be gotten around. That’s why Inslee should ask the Legislature for more tank divisions.
@42 I don’t know which Ryan you are talking about.
That does not surprise me (or really for that matter, trouble me) at all.
Was it supposed to?
56,
what happens when he loses his seat in ’18?
@62 They’ll have to get somebody else. Does it matter? The Speaker’s job is already a revolving door.
The Trump administration has frozen funding used to divert young people away from white supremacist, skinhead, and other violent domestic groups.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tr.....extremism/
Meanwhile, in cop news, a North Carolina cop who shot a fleeing black man in the back has copped a plea to federal civil rights charges, and the state apparently will drop the murder charges against him. Here’s the “fleeing felon” rule in action: Shooting a fleeing suspect in the back makes you a felon.
Also, a Texas cop who killed an unarmed 15-year-old black boy riding in a car has been fired after video of the incident contradicted officers’ claims that the driver was trying to run down the cops. In fact, the vehicle was moving away from the police when the cop opened fire.
It’ll be hard for Trump and Sessions to defend these trigger-happy rogue cops, but don’t be surprised to see them try.
Which is why Mark Zuckerberg, Larry Ellison, David Koch, Sergey Brin, Larry Page, Laurene Jobs, Donald Bren, Abigail Johnson, Ray Dalio, Carl Icahn and Elon Musk all live in Seattle.. Oh excuse me! Bellevue.
Really salt mining fool?
He owns a house on Bellevue Avenue. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Larry Ellison? Bellevue? Hmmm…? https://therealdeal.com/2015/04/26/the-incredible-real-estate-portfolio-of-oracle-billionaire-larry-ellison/
“All you need to do is prove one wrong”… HA Libtard!
Discriminating against people can get expensive.
“A federal appeals court says a gay couple’s lawsuit seeking damages from a Kentucky county clerk who refused to issue them a marriage license can proceed.
“Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis refused to issue a marriage license to David Ermold and David Moore in 2015 because she said it violated her religious beliefs.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ga.....n-proceed/
It’ll be hard for Trump and Sessions to defend these trigger-happy rogue cops, but don’t be surprised to see them try.
Especially when it happened under Loretta Lynch eh idiot Wabbit?
DAYUM, you say some stooooooooooooooopid shit early onset senile schismatic IDIOT Roger DOUBLE DUMBFUCK wabbit!
Another DUMMOCRETIN SCUM going down… http://observer.com/2017/05/cl.....aud-trial/
Unlimited disgust for ripping off a charity!
THIS is one HA DUMMOCRETINS really love!
Another instance of College DUMMOCRETIN being SCUM!!! https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/32409/
Right up shitstain steve’s alley!
Memory lane time… https://twitter.com/richarddawkins/status/658022567085801472?lang=en
A university is not a “safe space”. If you need a safe space, leave, go home, hug your teddy & suck your thumb until ready for university.
In the case of the salt mining fool… the thumb is up it’s panty covered ASS!
Of course Dawkins is a hero of HA DUMMOCRETINS!
Awww the snowflakes are upset… https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/32375/
It’s difficult being a male at the university now… https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/32370/
Among this evidence was a recently discovered video of Jane “admitting to using the Title IX procedures to pursue a personal vendetta against John, as well as evidence of substantial witness tampering by Jane,” the lawsuit states.
The plaintiff alleges school officials would not allow to be considered a recording of the accuser saying: “I want to f*** up [John’s] reputation; I want to make sure he never has a girlfriend…here or anywhere…and I want him never to be able to have a social life.”
Looks like Notre Dame is in deeeeeeeeeeeeeeep dooooooo dooooooo!
This should be right up the salt mining fool and hanging human teabag licker’s “alley… https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/32351/
He’s a gay Hispanic who faces constant discrimination on campus — for being Republican
Vincent Wetzel, president of the Orange Coast College Republicans, recently stood before the leaders of his college and declared that as a homosexual Hispanic from a low-income household, he faces discrimination on campus — for being a Republican.
Hispanic poor gay… Three of the DUMMOCRETIN food groups!
Sad!
Hmmm… real FACTS for a change… https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/pursuant-executive-order-public-safety-department-justice-releases-data-incarcerated-aliens-0
There are 45,493 foreign-born inmates currently in BOP custody, of which 3,939 are U.S. citizens (either naturalized or derivative). Of the remaining 41,554 foreign-born inmates (aliens):
“immigrants’ vs. “illegal immigrants” – Soooooooooo we see all those illegal alien crime holders in fed prisons! Puddy wonders what we got for state and county pens!
“He owns a house on Bellevue Avenue.”
Wow babbling butthole, that was some fartback… Stunk to high heaven.
Too f’ing stupid to live..
Hey why don’t we see the babbling butthole troll on Fridays and Saturdays any more?
Ahh those Fridays after sunset. So niiice around here..
Plenty of good yucks on Sat night when the babbling butthole troll puts HA first before the weekly duty with its salt mining buddy. We HA HEROES love to present the babbling butthole with positive thoughts to take to its Sat night duty in the salt mine.
Now why is it so scarce these days on Sat nights? Yours truly wonders.
Whoa! The loon’s exploding head is back, and it’s bringing the hate!
I was hoping for another loon-free thread. Those were nice.
MJ should be illegal.
@72. He’s lucky he’s not dead. Where I come from they shoot Repukes.
62,
If Ryan (whoever that is) finds himself tacking on $8 billion dollar riders for just one out of 247 votes it tells me three things:
-They’ll have to triple the spending compared to O-care;
-Dems will be going into overdrive composing pithy catch phrases to equal “Cornhusker Kickback”;
-Billing frauds like Doctor Dumbfuck will be descending like carion crows on fly-over Hillbilly America*.
*Looks like Doctor Dumbfuck shit the money bed again.
Well monomaniacal moronic moonbattic memoryless malodorous ABSOLUTELY clueless crazed cretin yellowishleakingbuttspigot absolutely neurotic low IQ arschloch with the moist pink lace panty gusset,
Seems you live for PuddyPosts! Butt, your Larry Ellison post was dead wrong so another of your silly shitstorms goes down the drain.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
KAAAAAAAAAAAAAABLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Well monomaniacal moronic moonbattic memoryless malodorous ABSOLUTELY clueless crazed cretin yellowishleakingbuttspigot absolutely neurotic low IQ arschloch with the moist pink lace panty gusset, it seems you live vicariously through PuddyPosts! Sooooooooooooo, you be checking on Friday and Saturdays means your miserable life is still miserable.
Puddy is taking weekend trips around the state to see things we’ve not seen by traveling overseas for vacations!
Sux to be you and your 2003 car!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Hello shitstain steve! How are the racetracks today?
36 & 51,
Still, Bernie would have been a better choice than Hillary. The DNC pissed off quite a few Democrats by manipulating things to insure Bernie wouldn’t get the nom. It showed up in the electoral College results.
FTFY