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Ted (gag) Cruz (gag) says most violent crime is committed by Democrats. No, Ted (gag), most violent crime is committed by Christians and people raised in Christian homes. #stopChristianterror.
http://www.wired.com/2015/11/t.....-worth-it/
“The Paris Climate Talks Will Emit 300,000 Tons of CO2, by Our Math. Hope It’s Worth It”
Not including the bellicose hot air from Obummer and Ben Rhodes equating climate change to ISIS terrorism!
Well, this was predictable. A Moroccan immigrant taxi driver gets shot by a non-paying passenger for being a Muslim.
http://www.post-gazette.com/lo.....1511290154
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Police probably are looking for someone who is (1) Christian and (2) Republican. Those are the main two categories of people, often combined, who expect foreign-looking taxi drivers to give them free rides and shoot them in the back to boot.
The asshole who engineered the flap over Starbucks coffee cups is now making death threats against abortion doctors. Maybe it’s time this terrorist was arrested?
http://www.dailykos.com/storie.....tail=email
Another Responsible Gun Owner (TM).
“Biloxi Police arrested a man who they say shot a waitress to death at a Waffle House near the Coliseum. Police say, she told him he couldn’t smoke inside the restaurant, so he pulled out his gun and shot her.”
http://wkrg.com/2015/11/27/waf.....r-smoking/
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Guns make you safer, yah.
It turns out that he Colorado terrorist has much in common with our own loon. They both have a “Get Out of Hell Free” card, are obsessed with the End of Days, and want abortion doctors dead.
“He claims to be a Christian and is extremely evangelistic, but does not follow the Bible in his actions,” Mescher said. “He says that as long as he believes he will be saved, he can do whatever he pleases. He is obsessed with the world coming to an end.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/1.....-anything/
@4,
In the violent extremist internment camp we’ll serve him his scalding coffee in his cupped bare hands.
Evangelical Christianity has become a death cult.
“Anti-abortion movement continues to justify murder — even after Planned Parenthood killings”
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/1.....-killings/
“Evangelist Told 1.8 Million Fans To ‘Punish’ Planned Parenthood, Make Doctors ‘Afraid For Their Lives'”
http://crooksandliars.com/2015.....ans-punish
The abortion movement can’t understand why the majority of Americans look at abortion as murdering unborn babies no matter what the Gallupo writer claims! http://www.gallup.com/poll/183.....years.aspx
When you look at the data Pro-Life wins! This Gallup poll confirms a majority of Americans oppose all or almost all abortions.
Just the FACTS ma’am!
When you look at the law, abortion is legal.
When you look at the Constitution, lawmakers have no legal authority over a woman’s vagina.
These too are FACTS!
Yet even if there were a valid Constitutional argument to be made, it would only be that: a legal argument. People who seek to override the law with armed violence are traitors, regardless of their reasoning. Like the fuckwad, they don’t like losing elections. So they arm themselves and go to war with us. They are enemy combatants. They must go to Cuba to be interned.
@8
The clubs, organizations, and cults which radicalize the extremist fringes to armed violence must be shut down and interned.
@9
“The Pro-Choice movement can’t understand why a minority of nutjobs look at the abortion of nonviable fetuses as murdering unborn babies.” -Fixed.
@12 I wonder if nutjobs know it sports a tail and gills.
@ 12, 13
Not the best arguments to make.
Premature Babies May Survive at 22 Weeks if Treated, Study Finds
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05.....study.html
If viability is your threshold, you likely will find that threshold to be increasingly earlier in the fetal life stage as medicine and technology continue to improve. That Moynihanian data point will increasingly work to your disadvantage.
Why, this can’t be correct.
Joint Chiefs chairman: ‘We have not contained’ ISIS
http://thehill.com/policy/defe.....ained-isis
We heard something very different from President Obama.
Say, anyone heard from Colin Powell, a former Joint Chiefs chairman, about anything having to do with ISIS in the past month or so?
He’s been quite the Obama supporter in recent years. Wouldn’t Powell be a good source of commentary, given his very unique military and diplomatic experience?
@9 It’s not surprising the same people who believe climate change is a hoax, Iraq attacked America on 9/11/01, Obama is a Muslim foreigner, and Syrian refugees are terrorists also believe that a clump of cells is an “unborn baby”.
We’ve gone round and round on this, Pudnutz. There’s a very strong argument that a fetus is an “unborn baby” in the hours and days immediately preceding its birth. There’s an equally strong argument that a fertilized egg is not an “unborn baby” but simply a fertilized egg that doesn’t look like a baby, doesn’t feel, doesn’t think, and isn’t aware of its existence. At what point does a fertilized egg morph into a cell mass and then morph again into an “unborn baby”? Even the Supreme Court, drawing upon the wisdom of the ages and many disciplines, couldn’t answer that question.
But the right-to-lifers not only think they know, but also think their answer is the only legitimate answer, and what’s more, they’re determined to impose it on others through force and violence.
The pro-life movement is to the United States what ISIS is to the Middle East: A fanatical religion-based movement that tolerates no dissent from their beliefs and uses terrorism to impose its government on everyone else.
@14 Even if viability is a threshold, it isn’t the only threshold. A good many Republicans would make no exception for children of rape and incest, deformed fetuses, and pregnancies that threaten the life of the mother. Those are thresholds, too, dummy. Also, it isn’t lost on pro-choicers that these self-same Republicans are first in line at the abortion clinic when their mistresses get knocked up.
@15 Ask the wrong question, get the wrong answer. The right questions are, To what extent is ISIS our problem, and what should be our role in solving it?
So, Bickle and Puddy aren’t running with the Gateway Pundit/Cruz meme that the Colorado Springs terrorist is a transgendered leftist activist bank robber? Maybe you guys can smell a dog turd after all.
Maybe Bickle and Puddy are looking for the AM station playing Rush Limburger. You know, the one with that screaming 1 watt of power.
Evangelical voters face a tough choice. They have two candidates to pick from, and they’re both idiotic lying grifters. But that describes most of their preachers, too, so they’re used to it.
Beats listening to continually failing left wrong radio. Oh wait Dead Schultzie, Randi 4 Bullets Rhodes, and Alan Colmes are what?
Thom Fartman has what? Less than 3 Million on a good day! Butt listen to those “podcasts”. NOT
Premature Babies May Survive at 22 Weeks if Treated, Study Finds
Yup. You know. The ones with 67 chromosomes.
Trust Bob. He’s a Doctor!
@19,
I seem to recall those two concern trolled that general category of bullshit for at least a few hours. Now they don’t want to talk about it. They’d rather debate the viability of severely genetically abnormal fetuses.
This is HI-larious! “Snot-Nosed Conservateen Does Not Want To Be Your Wingnut Hero No More”
BTW: Randi Rhodes is retired.
Randi Rhodes is retired.
Yes, due to suspension from Air America…. Come on you moron. Puddy keeps tabs on your kind!
@26 “Puddy keeps tabs on your kind!”
This isn’t altogether news to us. We’ve suspected for quite some time now that maybe you’re a stalker.
Tabs!
Being kept!
Word!
Plus, also, Rhodes was suspended for attacking Clinton.
Fuckwad, you should be washing her undies.
Faith Based Shopping
“On Monday, Alan Harper, an Alabama state representative who is Republican, posted a comment on his Facebook page that urges his friends to support Christian-owned gas stations and convenience stores when traveling over the holidays. Spending money at stores ‘not owned by God fearing Christians,’ he warned, could have dire consequences. ‘In large part, these stores are owned by folk that send their profits back to their homeland and then in turn use these funds against our country to create turmoil, fear and in some cases death and destruction,’ he wrote. When asked how to tell whether a store owner is Christian, Harper responded, ‘Look behind the cash register.’ … Harper’s comments are raising concerns about xenophobia, racism and racial profiling made in the name of supporting Christian businesses.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/wh.....oes-wrong/
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Hey, I have no problem with this. After all, I profile, too. If I see a car with a fish symbol, I assume the driver will try to brake-check me so I’ll rear-end him and he can make an insurance claim. Those Christians, you know. I give them a wide berth. Not patronizing Republican businesses is difficult, because they own most of the businesses. Still, you can avoid the worst ones, like Hobby Lobby and Chick-fil-A, if you know who they are. It’s a free country, and you’re entitled to shop (or not shop) wherever you like. I look for union labels. I won’t fly on an airplane assembled by non-union labor, because I value my life. My cars are union-made, too.
Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg and his wife announced today they plan to give 99% of their Facebook stock, which is worth about $45 billion, to their charitable foundation.
Plus, also, Rhodes was suspended for attacking Clinton. Yes butt LucasDumbFoxx was making a “point” on Rhodes! This is what she said. It was more of an attack on Ferraro. Yeah, you attack a DUMMOCRETIN and all hell breaks loose!
PuddyCommentariat: If Randi attacked John McCain she’d still be on the air if Scare America was still on! That’s the big rub here! Attack libtards… stick a fork in her… she’s done!
It’s hard to read “Red State” without throwing up, in fact I can’t do it, but it’s nevertheless interesting (from a social science perspective) to see how those guys talk to themselves.
“President Obama is going to spark a mass outbreak of shooters gunning people down. … It’s apocalyptic fear mongering by the President of the United States. We’re going to start seeing crazy people gunning folks down in the name of climate change.”
http://www.redstate.com/2015/1.....ople-down/
That’s their response to Planned Parenthood’s statement about inciting abortion clinic terrorists.
Here’s another interesting (from a social science perspective) example of Red State thought:
“President Obama has been dangerous because he is a partisan (not an ideologue which is actually a positive). He is driven wholly by politics, doing or not doing something because the other side hates it.”
And this:
Hillary on the other hand … sees the Clinton family as some sort of quasi-royalty and she’ll sell policy to the highest bidder in order to maintain that status.”
Seems to be a lot of mirror-gazing going on there. He bottom- lines it thusly:
“I’ll crawl over glass to vote for Sen. Ted Cruz.”
You know, it’s really tempting to set up a fake voting booth, put a large sign in front of it reading “Vote for Ted Cruz Here!”, and then go to a recycling yard and get a truckload of glass bottles … but honestly I’m not mean enough to do it. I’m only mean enough to daydream about it.
The fact is, defenders of Roe v. Wade don’t have a rhetoric problem, but the pro-life movement does. (After all, no one is torching buildings or slaughtering people in the name of choice.) Read about it here:
http://theweek.com/articles/59.....e-movement
” … Is it really surprising that after months of railing against the baby killers (and dismemberers and body-parts harvesters) at Planned Parenthood, threats against and attacks on clinics are rising? Of course not. What’s surprising is that there haven’t been far more of them. Because if we take pro-life rhetoric seriously — if we accept that hundreds of thousands of unprosecuted and unpunished murders are being committed every year in the United States — then violence sounds like a perfectly reasonable response. …”
From RR’s link:
“Pro-lifers are right to point out that the mainstream movement to ban abortion has never explicitly advocated violence.”
I’d take exception to that. It’s my opinion that “mainstream” includes people, and organizations that are invited to attend and take part in the organizing and promotional activities of one of the major political parties, that party’s federal campaigns, and that party’s conventions, both state and national. That being said, if you agree with that, then violent extremist anti-abortion individuals and groups have become mainstream in America, owing entirely to the Republican Party. Advocacy of violence has most certainly become part of the mainstream of the anti-abortion movement in America. For the safety of all Americans that has to stop. To do that they must be treated exactly the way we treat all other enemy combatants who set out to wage war against the United States via terrorism. They should be detained without trial, interned in Cuba indefinitely, and tortured.
Does the Fuckwad read RedState?
I’m thinking not so much. Hee, hee.
Hey HA DUMMOCRETINS, when are you gonna confront your white privilege background?
Seems tonight over a beer is a great time!
@37,
and…
done.
@39,
whatajoke!
I confronted.
I was all up in his face like “Yo! White privilege background! Why you wanna be like that, yo? Blindin’ me with all that mayonaise, them well maintained public schools, elite summer soccer camps, clog dancin’, swim club memberships, golden retrievers, J. Crew, and detached outcome oriented parenting an’ shit! What’s up with that?” He had nothing to say in reply. Beer time now. Later Fuckwad.
Before anyone forgets, this is what REAL Americans sound like. USA! USA! USA! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPxvGd0BDW8
Seems this Chicago police shooting incident is a libtard problem. Rahm Emanuel knew about this problem 13 months ago and Obummer only started this just us “investigation” six months ago. For Ferguson, Obummer was right there calling for an investigation. Eric Gun Running Holder went right in there! Now we see Emanuel firing the police chief. It’s endemic to DUMMOCRETINS running big cities. Seattle, Philadelphia, Chicago, Baltimore, etc. DUMMOCRETINS love watching inner city blacks killing inner city blacks. When Republicans Rudy “Big” Giuliani(s) and Michael Bloomberg ran NYC we didn’t hear about these problems. With DUMMOCRETIN whack job Bill diBlasio, we hear of strange crap too!
There we go!
The Trumpster’s money threw a golf course on top of environmentally sensitive lands in Scotland, but he might not get to play golf there if the U.K. bars him from their country as an undesirable alien.
http://www.motherjones.com/moj.....travel-ban
Um, Amadou Diallo anyone?
Weren’t we promised that “tabs” were being “kept”?
Where are the tabs? Aren’t they being kept?
The whole point of the tab is keeping the tab.
Sheesh.
Puddy wrote… It’s endemic to DUMMOCRETINS running big cities. Seattle, Philadelphia, Chicago, Baltimore, etc. DUMMOCRETINS love watching inner city blacks killing inner city blacks.
Libtard the racist schmucko wrote… Amadou Diallo anyone?
Puddy didn’t realize the four police officers were all inner city black cops. Amazing what BULLSHITTIUM flows from Libtard the racist schmucko fingers!
@40,
This is what HA delivers as DUMMOCRETIN thought? Everything in that post is already a given. What are you personally doing about it schmuck?
White privilege. Puddy wants a safe place on HA Carl, Darryl and Goldy!
Of course Roger senile forgets all the anarchists and their terroristic activities. Roger senile gives them a pass. http://www.pugetsoundanarchists.org/ are Roger senile’s friends!
“President Obama has been dangerous because he is a partisan (not an ideologue which is actually a positive). He is driven wholly by politics, doing or not doing something because the other side hates it.”
Apparently Roger senile hates TRUTH!
Hey DUMMOCRETIN morons,
Why is Obummer telling Turkey to seal their border to keep ISIS out, http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-.....1448674401 while at the same time we’re opening our borders per Obummer’s executive actions to ISIS and any other illegal alien who wants to infiltrate America through the southern border with Mexico?
@36. that red state opinion piece where Ben Carson should drop out over his take on the domestic terrorism at the Planned Parenthood center is insightful.
“But Carson’s latest slip up is probably the worst one yet in my eyes. He did something no conservative should ever do, and no skilled and experienced conservative candidate for president would ever do, which is accept the premise of a liberal interviewer’s question. Carson did that when he accepted the premise that “hateful rhetoric” could have caused the crazy Colorado shooter to do what he did, ”
Two Observations,
in Ultraconservativeland, a”good” conservative is apparently schooled to never allow any common ground with a non conservative under any circumstances. Makes compromise hard doesn’t it.
Carson admitted the truth, that “hateful rhetoric” could have been a factor, so he has to be obliterated. Arch conservatives never want to admit there are consequences from their actions.
I read a couple of days ago that CJ Pearson had a “Come to Jesus” moment and realized the Republican party was not what he thought it was.
“CJ Pearson told CNN on Friday that concerns about the Republican Party’s viewpoints on racial and gender disparity as well as youth issues convinced him he could no longer be a mouthpiece for conservatism.
“I was tired of being a champion of a party that turned a blind eye to racial discrimination. Tired of being a champion of any cause that denies equal rights to every American. Tired of being a champion of a party that doesn’t care about the issues important to young people,” Pearson wrote in an email.”
It’s been fascinating reading conservatives turning on him like feral weasels, now that he’s not echoing what they want to hear.
Over at Red State, there are headlines like
“CJ Pearson lacks political principles, but manufactures the attention he craves”
“CJ Pearson’s strange rise and abrupt betrayal”
And over at Free Republic, comments like
“He’s been herded back onto the ‘RAT reservation. A free Obamaphone awaits.”
“Boy! … Git your little Black ass back on the Democrat Plantation!”
“Do we know when this kid will be coming out? ”
“He was never ours to lose.”
And from his twitter feed
“CJ Pearson @thecjpearson Nov 30
I seriously can’t get over the fact that people on the right are so mad over me having good relations with people on the other side. Petty!”
@47 “Puddy wants a safe place on HA Carl, Darryl and Goldy!”
You’ve been allowed to freely pass gas and stink up this place without hindrance for 10 years, and you don’t feel safe? Sounds like a personal problem to me.
@48 When you refer to “anarchists” I assume you mean the Republican Party. You know, the “drown government in the bathtub” guys. The crazies who drive around with homemade license plates, gunrunners, bridge closers, and lunatics who shoot up abortion clinics. They’re your friends, not mine.
@49 @50 This is what raving lunacy looks like.
Arch conservatives never want to admit there are consequences from their actions.
Yeah moronic twit just like the hateful SPLC retoric led Floyd Lee Corkins II opening fire in the lobby of the Family Research Council in downtown Washington in 2012. Then Corkins planned to target the Traditional Values Coalition next. He had the address of Traditional Values Coalition President Andrea Lafferty!
Seems DUMMOCRETINS never apologize for their actions!
Really weak sauce there Roger senile. @49 @50 are FACTS!
Those were Republican anarchists in Seattle breaking windows creating havoc last May? Those were Republican anarchists shitting on police cars in NYC?
You are really senile dumb wabbit!
GOATBOY @56
The Family Research Council is associated with various Klan groups, including the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC), a white supremacist group that has described black people as a “retrograde species of humanity.”
So GOATBOY, are you a member of a “retrograde species of humanity?” Is this another expression of your self hatred?
@56. Been saving that link for a while?
Hypocrites. When it happens to them, they squeal like pigs.
“Tony Perkins, Family Research Council President, Pins Shooting Blame On ‘Reckless’ Southern Poverty Law Center”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....91007.html
Conservative speech should be held harmless, but liberal speech is reckless?
In Conservativeland, It’s Only Wrong when a Liberal does It.
What was the horrible things that the Southern Poverty Law Center say that was so bad about the Family Research Council?
Mark Potok, a senior fellow at the SPLC, called Perkins’ accusation “outrageous.” He said the council earned the designation for spreading false propaganda about the gay community, not for its opposition to same-sex marriage.
“The FRC routinely pushes out demonizing claims that gay people are child molesters and worse – claims that are provably false,” he said in a statement. “It should stop the demonization and affirm the dignity of all people.”
Only in Conservativeland could Conservatives telling blatant and provable lies about Planned Parenthood is the same thing as SPLC telling the truth about FRC.
ekim the goat driver… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Research_Council
Floyd Lee Corkins II performed an act of domestic terrorism goat lover!
Don’t see KKK anywhere? PROVE IT!
Puddy knows why ekim buys his shin boots one size too large. Perfect fit for the hind legs of the goat!
Sometime cartoons distill issues down to it’s core elements
Creator, Enabler, Fool.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVAPerMVAAAnLc9.jpg
@56. Been saving that link for a while?
Don’t need to. Puddy seldom forget what Puddy has read over the years. Google fills in the rest. Puddy don’t need no crazed databaze!
Seems the moronic twit’s head went…
KAAAAAAAAAAAAAABLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
@59
Not to mention that Tony Perkins, Family Research Council President, has intimate ties to the KKK. Wonder if he also goes to Klan rallies as well.
Walmart: If you raise the minimum wage in your town, we won’t open a store. Seems like a win/win.
http://thinkprogress.org/econo.....t-springs/
“The FRC routinely pushes out demonizing claims that gay people are child molesters and worse – claims that are provably false,” he said in a statement. “It should stop the demonization and affirm the dignity of all people.”
Poor moronic twit @60… FACTS just don’t seem to fit its narrative… Don’t you remember Harry Hay? No? Let Puddy remind you of his own words http://nambla.org/nyu1983.html
PuddyCommentariat: Surely the moronic twit remembers Kevin Jennings? Puddy brought him up on the Friday Night Comix… http://www.wnd.com/2009/10/111792/
FACTS really suck moronic twit!
http://www.occupydemocrats.com.....nt-blacks/
“a shocking new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Alabama Justice Project has found that law officers in Dothan, Alabama, have been planting drugs and weapons on black suspects for years”
>> The Southern Poverty Law Center, trying to get equal treatment for blacks and Puddy want’s them muzzled. Hypocrite.
“The whistle-blowing officers have even said they are willing to testify against their corrupt comrades, who were apparently members of a neo-Confederate organization that called “for blacks to return to Africa, published that the civil rights movement is really a Jewish conspiracy, and that blacks have lower IQ’s.” ”
FYI,
#45 on the list of “Top 101 counties with highest percentage of residents voting for Bush (Republican) in the 2004 Presidential Election, pop. 50,000+”
Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/Dothan-Alabama.html
Ah a Wikipedia story. How cute. I’m sure they wrote it themselves.
Here is another Wikipedia story about Tony Perkins.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Perkins_%28politician%29#Controversy
Ah gee, references to the CCC and David Duke. Can we say KKK oh BUTTBOY? Obviously your Google skills leave much to be desired. Otherwise you would have seen that link and others tying Perkins to the KKKlan.
This says the Trump-hole is something worse than a liar – it’s a bullshit artist.
And so are our trolls Boob and Boob’s teeny tiny sidekick, the babbling jackass troll @ 66..
You cherry pick your “facts” and dredge NAMBLA up from over 30 years ago? I cannot possibly explain to a homophobic bigot like you how broken many, many gay men were by the treatment they got from straight society back then. NAMBLA is a nasty aberration that modern day gay culture does not support, any more that straight culture supports straight men having sex with underage girls, (unless it’s Ted Nugent.)
This has been told to you over and over, Consenting Adults. Kids are not adults. Kids cannot give consent. People who do that, should go to jail, like Jerrod and the Dugger guy.
If the FRC is still pushing that garbage, then they are just as hateful as they are described.
By the way
3) Do you really believe Ted Nugent’s claim that he “got the parents’ permission” is an acceptable excuse for having sex with young girls?
4) What’s worse? Two consenting adults having sex, regardless of gender – or – A sexual predator preying on young girls
@63 “Puddy seldom forget what Puddy has read over the years.”
I’m not impressed. Anyone can do that by reading the same 24-page comic book over and over.
A safe place for Fuckwad is a very dangerous place for everyone, but an especially dangerous place for goats.
Something like 230,000 veterans suffer from hepatitis C. Many of them got it from blood transfusions in Vietnam. A 100% effective cure for hepatitis C was invented by a VA doctor, but the VA can’t afford to buy it for veterans, because the VA doctor sold his discovery to a private drug company for $400 million, and the private drug company (Gilead Sciences) charges the VA $48,000 for pills that cost $1,200 to make. Well, that’s capitalism.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/va.....patitis-c/
(Full Disclosure: Roger Rabbit owns stock of Gilead Sciences. Hey, I don’t get to run the company or set prices, I only collect dividends!)
There probably isn’t enough latex fetish gear and KY jelly on earth to make a “safe space” for Puddy.
@73. That’s awful! Unfettered greed.
@9 So Puddy you and they think that the government has the power to control abortion. You trust the government to be able to resist the power to order abortions? To enforce population control. Or you conservatives have been determined to be dangerous by liberals who are in control and can decide to deal with your defective genetics. The US government and state governments have done abortions and sterilizations people determined to be defective or non citizens or perhaps umm because they black. You want to give the government that power. A government that can stop abortions is one that can order and have them done. Rolls that way in China.
@29 He maybe finding it hard to find a local owned gas station or convenience store owned by Christians. A lot are owned by folks who speak Hindi and have statues to Hindu gods and all but are hard working American business people pursuing the American dream for themselves and their children. Yes the smell of curry and incense is occassionally present, but I find such smells inviting and a reminder of the larger world of humanity.
@65 Sounds like some communities tax payers won’t be subsidizing Wally World. Good for them. Bet cha they still get a Wally World.
@70 Of course neither of you is discussing the rights of the teens. Is a 14 year old just a kid. Do some have sex? Do some decide to have sex? Why don’t they have the right to consent? If they can consent to another 14 year old ummm what is the point? If not 14 then 15 or 16 or 17? Is our society infantilizing them? Maybe the age to get married should be 25 or even 30. Should the choice to engage in sex be that high? Obviously not. Liberals though should at least ask the question of whether the law abridges the rights of teens to engage in certain behavior in weird un logical ways. Why can’t young human beings have the right to choose their lovers? This is also tied up in issues of privilege and parents power and privilege. There are certainly states where Ted can do what you are claiming he is doing if the parents are ok with it everything is golden. Unless he pisses the parents off or the person their son or daughter is doing isn’t of their approval.
Better nice job in pointing out the stupidity of the ape. But I think all that’s need to be done is point out all the heterosexual rapists, domestic abusers, murderers, and child molesters that exist…. As they point to the sky God,
I guess I could take the time and google today’s news and I’m sure I could provide a minimum of two links for the ape.
Comparing the rhetoric of PP and FRC, is like comparing and apple to a orange.
Meanwhile it seems Obummer in his zeal to get more illegal immigrants into America released some into shady circumstances… http://www.washingtontimes.com.....igrant-ch/
goatse ekim, driving goats crazy everywhere in the world @58 claimed
PuddyCommentariat: When confronted goatse ekim provided no proof for the Family Research Council. Google it everyone! That’s all goatse ekim has except full on horsesASS manure from left wrong sites.
Butt, goatse ekim decided to attack Tony Perkins instead. Why? Train wreck time. There was no EVIDENCE on FRC! So we see the twisted mind of the goatse! Well in 1992 Perkins “paid former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke $82,500 for his mailing list.”. Yep! The only reference there is. Butt living on those left wrong sites which conflate a mailing list purchase to full on support is goatse ekim’s life! That’s what libtards do. Stretch the truth to some big time lie and then repeat it over all the airwaves controlled by them!
DUMMOCRETINS are SCUM!
“That’s what libtards do. Stretch the truth to some big time lie and then repeat it over all the airwaves controlled by them!”
The loon projects too much. Then again, if the loon didn’t have big-time lies born of projection, he wouldn’t have anything at all. And the loon likely couldn’t live with himself without pinning his own worst characteristics on those whom he hates.
No wonder the loon is freaking out at 5:30AM. Carson has dropped even further in the latest national poll, and now is in a tie for third.
http://www.realclearpolitics.c.....-3823.html
Tony Perkins as guest speaker at a CofCC meeting
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/.....kins_0.JPG
I’m sure the CONGENITAL LIAR will claim there is no proof that the CofCC is related to the KKK.
(Pay no attention to the KKK members or confederate battle flag in the picture.)
goatse ekim you can’t run from #58. There is no FRC connection to the KKK. You can’t prove it! We’re still waiting. So all you have is Tony Perkins.
Yet, nary a peep about Robert Byrd from goatse ekim! So where is goatse ekim on DUMMOCRETINS meeting with hateful La Raza organizations? “For the race everything, outside the race nothing” Oh wait those jock strap DUMMOCRETINS so never mind! Heilary, Bernie, and Martin all spoke!
This doesn’t bother goatse ekim “The ultimate ideology is the liberation of Aztlan. Communism would be closest. Once Aztlan is established, ethnic cleansing would commence: Non-Chicanos would have to be expelled, opposition groups would be quashed because you have to keep power.” – Miguel Perez MEChA Chapter, Cal State-Northridge
Seems goatse ekim has selective hatred! Gotta hate Tony Perkins. Gotta hate the FRC. Yet all we have are two speeches and a purchase of a political list. Yet DUMMOCRETINS speak in front of a left wrong hate group A-OK with goatse ekim!
Sux to be goatse ekim!
Now on to the moronic twit and his Harry Hay issue!
When confronted in October 2009 with his 1997 speech Kevin Jennings DID NOT reject his claim that Harry Hay inspired him! Here is the relevant portion of that speech moronic twit
Puddy Commentariat: So moronic twit, this isn’t 30 years ago, this is six years ago! Also Kevin Jennings edited and co-wrote a book called Becoming Visible about the history of gay activism in which there is an entire chapter about Harry Hay! http://www.amazon.com/Becoming.....8-2#reader You can purchase the book and start reading the Harry Hay praise on page 162.
What makes Kevin Jennings a hero to you is his well known history of bashing Christians. Act Up support. More on that later too! You can see how he rejected God in his own book http://www.amazon.com/dp/08070.....dr_ext_tmb
You can read about Brewster… more about Brewster later moronic twit!
You see moronic twit, Puddy has no problem with you and your lifestyle when you live it quietly and privately. Puddy has a problem when you decide to force it down Puddy’s throat with your public parades. . Puddy is not your ally; a straight adult who worships LGBT’s and unequivocally endorses your lifestyle. Won’t happen. Deal with it. Maybe you should have a gay pride parade on Christmas Day in Seattle. That would work right?
So what the moronic twit says. No one would have cared about NAMBLA if it wasn’t for Obummer pushing this agenda straight into people’s faces. This Kevin Jennings was nominated as the Safe Schools Czar. Jennings founded GLSEN, the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, a support group for teens and his “hero” was Harry Hay; plain and simple! So this 30 years ago argument you so adroitly threw up is garbage!
Brewster – Then we learned Jennings had no problem advising a 15 year old boy to continue a sexual relationship with a much older man. “Use a condom”! It was called Brewstergate because he called the person Brewster. http://www.amazon.com/One-Teac.....1555832636 And… Growing Up Gay/Growing Up Lesbian http://www.amazon.com/Growing-.....1565841034 Read pages 99 & 100 which describes two 10-year-old boys in a very graphic sexual encounter. Absolutely need reading for middle schools when you want to recruit! Then when Jennings was put forth to get a NEA award Jennings changed the age to 16. So what was truth? It seems that as a teacher, he was required under Massachusetts’ mandatory reporting law to report Brewster’s sexual relations with adults. He didn’t! DUMMOCRETINS are SCUM!
Acting Up – AIDS Coalition to Unleash Power – ACT UP targeted John Cardinal O’Connor on December 10, 1989 for upholding biblical teaching on sexuality. Who was supporting this? The czar moronic twit!
Fisting – http://www.massresistance.org/...../fistgate/
Hmmm…? Kevin Jennings was right there. Explain that away! Butt butt butt that was 30 years ago. 2000 is 30 years ago per the chronology of the moronic twit!
Queering Kiddies in School – Book “Queering Elementary Education” http://www.amazon.com/Queering.....0847693694 Start those youngsters into knowing “hey you really are gay no matter what mom and dad say”! Where you can read the forward where Jennings twists “anti-bullying” as his way to present his blatant pro-homosexual agenda as a “safety” issue! Just scroll down and read it yourself. How many of those elementary school sessions on queering has Jennings run over the years moronic twit?
Maybe Kevin Jennings meant his real definition of safe American schools was really safe for child predators?
BTW moronic twit… Puddy brought this up years ago. Grow some balls and ask the clueless crazed databaze deala for some proof!
@75 I agree it’s terrible, and I think someone should look into whether the VA has a valid claim to at least partial ownership of that drug patent. If it were up to me, I’d sell the pills to the VA on a cost-plus basis; I mean, I’d be happy to get a 10% return on my Gilead stock. But I’m only one shareholder of many, and there’s nothing I can do to keep it from doubling or tripling.
Fuckwad knows waaay too much about NAMBLA.
And goats.
@90,
ekim taught us about goats
Obummer introduced us to NAMBLA through Kevin Jennings
“Puddy has no problem with you and your lifestyle when you live it quietly and privately. ”
So long as gays, gay couples and gay families stay invisible and don’t pop your bubble, you will tolerate their existence.
Seems a black man wouldn’t use the “stay in your place” defense.
Guess what I just found out?
Thomas Jefferson owned human slaves. He even raped them.
Didn’t Carson say Jefferson is one of his heroes?
@91,
Two term President Obama introduced us to Jennings who introduced us to Hay who introduced us to NAMBLA.
Seething serial goat fucker Puddy introduced us to Carson who introduced us to Jefferson who introduced us to slave rape.
… Fixed
“Puddy has no problem with you and your lifestyle when you live it quietly and privately. ”
That looks worth exploring.
@76 The argument against abortion is easy to understand. For people opposed to abortion, it’s not only a premeditated killing of human beings, but of the most vulnerable and defenseless human beings, who are seen as deserving society’s protection.
The fact SCOTUS made abortion as a constitutional right isn’t that big an obstacle, because SCOTUS has been wrong before, and has changed course before — as in the case of segregation, for example. If Plessy v. Ferguson can be overturned, then Roe v. Wade can be, too. This is especially true given that, while the constitutional right to privacy portion of the Roe v. Wade opinion is rock-solid, the Court’s extrapolation from this of a constitutional right to abortion is on much shakier ground, from a legal reasoning perspective.
It’s perfectly possible, even natural, for good and decent people to oppose abortion on moral and humanitarian grounds, even if you leave religion out of the picture, although the picture becomes somewhat blurrier when you include the negative impacts of forced motherhood in the equation.
Enacting laws protecting unwanted children from their parents’ urge to destroy them is a natural role for government. It’s hard to see how liberals, who support government intervention in a wide variety of other private activities, could oppose such laws on ideological grounds. The difficulty with such laws isn’t theoretical, but rather practical; to wit, the same problem government encountered in trying to protect society from the negative consequences of alcohol consumption. In a word, people are going to do it anyway. But that would be a flimsy justification for legalizing abortion, if that’s all there was.
It isn’t, of course. Our societal conflict over abortion really comes down to a clash of values. The question is whether a fetus has a right to be born and enjoy (?) a human life that supersedes the right of the mother to control her life.
Abortion politics is a result of the fact that simple-minded people see the world in black-white terms, whereas the issue is much more complicated than that, and sometimes requires people to make difficult judgments, which is something the legal system can usually handle okay if given the chance, but conservatives aren’t very good at. They’re more inclined to enact laws that leave no room for judgment in individual cases, which severely bolixes things up. You can’t expect people to support something that leaves them twisting in the wind. To make it work, you’ve got to offer solutions to their problems.
I personally prefer a system under which abortions would be rare, not because they’re illegal or impossible to get, but because women burdened with unwanted pregnancies would have attractive alternatives and incentives to choose them.
There will, of course, always be the obvious exceptions, as in rape cases or where the mother’s health requires aborting a fetus. Elective and necessary abortions have to be thought about and treated differently, and many pro-lifers have discredited themselves and their cause by refusing to do that.
@79 If Alabama made it legal for 12-year-olds to marry, should Washington recognize such marriages if they move to our state?
Child marriages, arranged marriages, and honor killings are common in many Muslim societies. If some of those people immigrate to our country for whatever reason, should we recognize and allow their customs, or require them to comply with our laws, which forbid all three of those practices?
Just how much freedom should people have in our country?
@80 “rapists, domestic abusers, murderers, and child molesters”
This is what we rabbits expect of humans. After all, you’re an inferior species. A few of you are smart enough to not try justifying it. I lose patience with the great mass of you who claim that thumping on a book with black covers makes it okay. You won’t find a single rabbit anywhere on earth who’d try to pull a stunt like that, much less think he could get away with it. Some of you stupid humans do it and then run for president. Sheesh. The reason you hominid idiots managed to take over this planet is not because of the brains you don’t have, but because you have opposable thumbs, which allows you to make more destructive weapons.
“Elective and necessary abortions… “
Definitions? Who should decide?
This is where I fundamentally have a problem with govt intrusion here. Would you outlaw or restrict mifepristone or high dose levonorgestrel? I don’t see much demonstrated competence within our existing legal system for sorting out these issues. That may be why we have the system we do. And don’t forget that at bottom, the anti abortion movement is really anti birth control.
@92 “Seems a black man wouldn’t use the ‘stay in your place’ defense.”
Yeah, it’s not much of a leap from there to saying, “We’ll all get along fine if you black people stay in your houses.” That’s basically what the police tell black people. There’s no problem as long as black people don’t drive, don’t cycle, don’t walk, don’t go in stores, etc. Stay invisible and you won’t get beaten up or shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUlkyPCJgGM
@99 “And don’t forget that at bottom, the anti abortion movement is really anti birth control.”
I never said the anti-abortion movement, as it exists in the USA, is either rationale or reasonable, or limits its activities to opposing abortion. I’m discussing the issue on a theoretical level.
I reject your argument that the legal system can’t handle difficult issues. It can. Obviously, easy issues are easier to handle, but on the whole, lawyers and judges are quite good at applying a rational and fact-based reasoning process to challenging and nuanced problems. They’re probably as good at this as scientists are.
@96
Abortion politics is a result of the fact that simple-minded people see the world in black-white terms…
Those are staunch up right Republicans you are calling simple-minded.
@102 You don’t say! I wonder where I got that idea from? (Hint: I was a Goldwater conservative before I became a Democratic party hack and liberal propagandist.)
@101,
Okay, it is indeed “nuanced”. Here are a few:
Conception cannot be scientifically defined. There is no precise “moment” before which the cells, chemicals, and fluids are gametes and after which they are zygotes. The transformation process is gradual and continuous.
Some very popular forms of currently available widely used birth control work by interfering with the nourishment, and development of newly formed zygotes.
Many parents “elect” to abort a pregnancy after testing and genetic counseling reveal fetal abnormalities “inconsistent with life”. But there is no precise scientific definition for such fetal abnormalities.
Some of these abnormalities would include genetic mutations resulting in lack of brain stem, continuous searing pain, compulsive self-harm, etc. With massive interventions full term babies with these abnormalities may, in a small percentage of cases, be delivered alive with life expectancies measured in weeks or perhaps months.
There are many other such nuances for the legal system to grapple with. My impression has been that the legal profession is reluctant, to say the least. Within the medical profession, there is no choice but to confront these nuances. To do so, most doctors consult with patients in private, providing factual information about approaches and outcomes, and allowing patients themselves to decide.
Decisions made by properly informed patients, without interference, generally have the best outcomes overall.
So long as gays, gay couples and gay families stay invisible and don’t pop your bubble, you will tolerate their existence.
There goes the moronic twit again… It’s when your peeps get up in peoples faces is where Puddy draws the line.
Where did Puddy use that “stay in your place” defense moronic twit?
Puddy introduced us to Carson
Once again libtard the racist schmuck is clueless. Better contact the clueless crazed cretin to check the crazed databaze!
Meanwhile DeadFish is going to Cuba… Oh you weren’t supposed to know this… http://www.politico.com/story/.....uba-216351
@107,
that shit should get your ass banned.
In the midst of heated public protests about racially motivated cop shootings, and a spree of public shootings and right wing asshat terrorist attacks these fuckheads broadcast where a prominent Democratic elected official is taking his family for the holidays.
And you link to it.
I see what you are doing. Classic puddy squid ink, as soon as anyone does any analysis on anything puddy says, he says didn’t say that.
“Puddy has no problem with you and your lifestyle when you live it quietly and privately. ”
So long as gays, gay couples and gay families stay invisible and don’t pop your bubble, you will tolerate their existence.
Wow,
the moronic twit is on a exploding roll @109. Got chronologically smacked around above now making wild ASS accusations calling correct answers squid ink! Seems your leetle world is going up in smoke. Wrong ANALysis! Puddy delivered facts. Your peeps love to push themselves in your face. That’s your kind’s modus operandi!
Kevin Jennings’ hero was Harry Hay. The moronic twit claims it’s all 30 years ago. Kevin Jennings was seven years ago. S M A C K D O W N! Then the moronic twit pivots and starts the ad hominem PuddyAttack! Straight out of the Saul Alinsky playbook. Denigrate your opponent by calling him names or disparage their character! Just visit the moronic twit responses after its chronology was DEEEEESTROYED!
@108
Politico tweeted it you moron! Staying stooooooooopid as evah!
Even more puddy ink. Just can’t admit he is wrong. I documented his tolerance of gay people so long as he never has to see them. When his own words are shown to be bigoted and homophobic, he then goes off on a tangent about Kevin Jennings and Harry Hay, trying to deflect and distract from his own bigoted and homophobic views.
(polite golf clap!)
@111,
Just. Like. I. Said.
Jeebus what a dumbshit.
@88 Is your point about teenagers having sex and wanting to or just it’s wrong if they are having homosexual sex?
Teens have sex. That is the reality, that is what your bible says, it’s says they fuck. It says hey they do it and they are married and should not do it with anyone else. So most 13 year olds would be married and having sex. That is at least one solution and is that the solution you support? Would seem so. And no same sex stuff. Gotta keep that underwraps or make sure anyone gay is pulled firmly into the heterosexual agenda very young.
@89 Actually there are things you can do. You as a stockholder should have the power to change the people in the board room. Keep the compensation for board and officers to a reasonable amount, ect. I know it’s a hard thing to do and officers and board members do a lot to prevent stockholders to exercise their rights…yep stockholders are the owners and board members are answerable to them, but only if the stockholders actually act like owners. I know in the great market it’s unlikely that kind of behavior is going to happen since you have a few big holders and a lot of stock held by mutual funds that should but don’t exercise their votes. The game is rigged, but no they still duties to the little stockholders. They are answerable those holders who happen to receive services of the VA or their families.
@92 A strong black woman certainly would not, and would not tolerate her man not doing so.
@96 The United States government has a problem here since infanticide was practiced as a way to control population on small islands that could not support a large human population. Polynesian women on these islands were expected to murder their babies in times of famine or to keep the islands population in sync with the resources available. This was true on Guam, the Hawaiian islands, the islands we used for atomic tests, ect. One place the practice fell out was Easter Island and it’s an ecological disaster. We also have folks who came from Norway and though the practice fell out of favor they had the test of the sword. If we don’t have abortion then infanticide should be just fine, even though legally under the English Common law and Roman law personhood begins at birth. Though the Romans did practice some Patrician obligations that are not in vogue today. Under Roman law fathers would have been required to have taken care of some of the folks in our prisons and on death row.
@107 I had to look at the link to figure out who the heck Deadfish is. Guess that is Republic talk for something. It’s Chicago so it’s not likely a Republican is going to be the next mayor. The machine will show the current mayor to the door the next election if it believes that is in the machines best interest. Generally the Chicago machine is very effective, but the police has been an on going problem for decades.
I hope they enjoy their vacation, and I hope I’m not invited to come over and watch the movies or the slides. Please God NO! Still I’m a bit jealous as Cuba is a happening place and the people there are cool and they are our neighbors. They are welcome to be become a state or states in our Union at any time they want. Our isolation of them has been counterproductive and anti-American. And may Cuban Pete visit us all, and in particular Puddy.