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Drinking Liberally — Seattle

by Darryl — Tuesday, 11/19/13, 5:12 pm

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It’s time to let out your inner Socialist! Please join us for an evening of politics over a pint at tonight’s gathering of the Seattle Chapter of Drinking Liberally.

We meet tonight and every Tuesday evening at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. Our normal starting time is 8:00pm.




Can’t make it to Seattle tonight? Check out another nearby DL meeting over the next week. Tonight the Tri-Cities and Shelton chapters meet. The South Seattle chapter meets this Wednesday. And for Thursday, the Spokane and Tacoma chapters meet.

With 212 chapters of Living Liberally, including eighteen in Washington state, four in Oregon, and three more in Idaho, chances are excellent there’s a chapter meeting near you.

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  1. 1

    Steve (Sharkansky is my bitch) spews:

    Tuesday, 11/19/13 at 5:44 pm

    Sharkansky is my new ‘bottom whore’*.

    *Borrowing from Iceberg Slim’s 1950’s South Chicago pimp-talk.

  2. 2

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 11/19/13 at 5:57 pm

    @2 Is he still getting single moms fired from their waitressing jobs for telling his rowdy kid to be quiet because he’s disturbing other restaurant patrons?

  3. 3

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 11/19/13 at 6:07 pm

    With the housing market flooded with foreclosures, you’d think there would be plenty of affordable housing out there. The natural forces of supply and demand at work, right?

    Well, you’d think wrong.

    Big investment funds like BlackRock scooped up tens of thousands of distressed properties, paying cash for them, and now they’re securitizing the rental income and selling that to investors. (And making a hell of a lot of money in the process.)

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/.....rkets.html

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Rents are skyrocketing, which seems strange in an economy that seems stuck in permanent recession. Not so strange, I guess, is the fact that windfall profits from exorbitant rents are raining down by bucketfuls into the coffers of Wall Street tycoons. And who pays these stratospheric rents? Young people, working people … the younger you are, and/or the lower your income, the more likely you are to be a renter. What you’re seeing here is another vicious round of wealth extraction from the poor and working classes by the super-rich. And by the time those sliced-and-diced rental income tranches go bad, they will have been sold at enormous profit to … wait for it … the renters’ pension funds.

  4. 4

    ArtFart spews:

    Tuesday, 11/19/13 at 7:08 pm

    @1 Well, not quite…

    They’ll be part of the REITS lurking in the portfolios of the junky IRA and 401(k) funds those lucky enough to have a few spare bucks will be pissing them into. “Pensions”???? Sounds like an old 20th Century urban legend.

  5. 5

    Steve (Sharkansky is my bitch) spews:

    Tuesday, 11/19/13 at 7:12 pm

    “Is he still getting single moms fired from their waitressing jobs for telling his rowdy kid to be quiet because he’s disturbing other restaurant patrons?”

    I don’t know. I assume so. Megalomaniacs dig that kind of shit.

    Too funny. He was accusing Obama of being megalomaniacal in his idiotic “Liberal Fascist” (God, that shit again?) post. I posted a comment ridiculing him about the waitress incident, sharing the definition of ‘megalomania’ and pointed out that if anybody was a megalomaniac it was (un)SP’s resident megalomaniacal waitress-hater. That was the one that got me banned for life.

  6. 6

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 11/19/13 at 7:38 pm

    Gary Locke is resigning from his post as U.S. ambassador to China.

  7. 7

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Tuesday, 11/19/13 at 7:40 pm

    @5 I hope Sharansky’s overindulged kid doesn’t turn into one of these kids.

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_new.....-life?lite

  8. 8

    Darryl spews:

    Tuesday, 11/19/13 at 9:50 pm

    Really, Roger? You’re going after his kids?!?

  9. 9

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 12:23 am

    @8 Naw. I just hope his kid turns out all right, despite bad parenting. That’s all I said or implied. I want the best life for all kids, including his kid. The only people I’m “going after” is parents guilty of bad parenting. Kids are expected to be rowdy. Kids will be kids, you know. Parents are expected to control their kids in public places like restaurants. The failure here is the parents’ refusal to do that, not the kid’s behavior. If we read about a kid in the papers, it’s because of bad parenting. I simply wish Shark would be a better parent and raise a good kid. Don’t we all want that?

  10. 10

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 12:30 am

    A city referendum banning late-term abortions pushed by right-to-lifers has been defeated by Albuquerque voters, proving their campaign against reproductive rights does not have popular support.

  11. 11

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 12:47 am

    Hmmm, I didn’t know JFK was nearly assassinated in December 1960, and LBJ might have been forced out of the vice-presidency by a corruption investigation if JFK hadn’t been assassinated in 1963.

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_new.....e-60s?lite

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Paul_Pavlick

  12. 12

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 1:27 am

    11) The Military Channel did a special on what if Vice President-elect Johnson had become president in that situation. LBJ would have been President during the Cuban Missile Crisis, and he had favored a surgical strike. The show was called “Armageddon 1962”.

  13. 13

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 2:29 am

    The controversy with the Mayor of Toronto led the Canadian equivalent of Fox News, Sun Network News, gave him a show. Now they have pulled it, citing production costs. They are willing to cross lines CTV, the more conservative of the established private over the air broadcasters would not, and have lost several attempts to get must-carry status from the Canadian Radio and Television Commission.
    http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/news/story/1.2432946

  14. 14

    Puddybud - Back to the Original! spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 5:09 am

    Rents are skyrocketing, which seems strange in an economy that seems stuck in permanent recession.

    That’s not what Obummer’s sadministration is telling the world SENILE Wabbit. So why are you disagreeing with the official DUMMOCRETIN party line?

  15. 15

    Puddybud - Back to the Original! spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 5:46 am

    CBS Poll… Seems to correspond to Gallup and WA Post. Obummercare down to 31% approval. Die hard DUMMOCRETINS (almost 6 in 10) like y’all still holding on for The Won! 67% of independents think Obummercare sucks too!

    DUMMOCRETINS, you get what you jack boot goose step frog march to! How are those brown shirts fitting these days? OWS Fraggy specializes in brown shirts. They may be available at fire sale prices!

  16. 16

    Puddybud - Back to the Original! spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 6:01 am

    Dayum,

    Coloradoans For ObummerCare sure think wimens are just oversexed peeps! Anyone care to thank Sandra Fluke?

    Yeah, that exactly the message I want my daughter to get… Promiscuity is fine as long as you’re covered by Obamacare… What are they thinking?

    College wimens not impressed!

  17. 17

    Puddybud - Back to the Original! spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 6:16 am

    Another reason to legalize drugs!

  18. 18

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 6:45 am

    @16

    The only people up in arms about the ad in question seem to be prudish Christian websites and the Catholics. Boo-fucking-hoo.

    puddibigot’s blockquoted comment is from the comments at the end of the article.

    Here are a few more comments from that article:

    Men should not be allowed to vote until age 25, women age 40.

    you mean 140 – it takes them that long to make up their minds and eliminate sexual fantasy from their “thought process?”!

    Here’s another…

    The left’s war on women. To Obama, women are nothing more than a life support system for a vagina.

    Here’s another from “dixiesusan”..

    It is rumoured that 100% of all the brothels in New York City fully endorse ObamaTax. It extends career lifespan, reduces medical repair costs, and increases brothel profits.
    The National Rainbow Coalition of Male/Female Brothels will be publicly endorsing ObamaTax soon !!!!

    Here’s another…

    I’d like to see an advertisement with a ‘gay pride’ parade, for starters. Then one showing murdered dismembered babies whose ‘abortion’ was paid for with Obamacare funds. Then one raising the ‘birther issue’ again. Then a comprehensive FLOOD showing the Grand Canyon differences between the Demoncratic National Committee and common sense Christian morality and logic.

    Yup, puddibigot, you’ve stuck Teahaddist GOLD with this one. Really persuasive argument you’ve got there, and some compelling allies.

  19. 19

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 6:47 am

    @17

    Who proposed legalizing methamphetamine?

    Do you have a point? (If so, it would be a first)

  20. 20

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 7:20 am

    So, puddibigot, tell me this….you seem exceptionally concerned about the alleged failures of Obamacare.

    From that, I take it that you’re concerned about the problems of tens of millions of people without access to doctors and medicines and treatment (obviously simplifying the issues greatly).

    In place of the ACA – if you could just *POOF* make it go away – what would be your preferred solution? Show your work.

  21. 21

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 9:20 am

    Notice that the republicans never ever list anything they would replace the The Affordable Care Act with?

  22. 22

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 9:24 am

    North Texas Drivers Stopped at Roadblock Asked for Saliva, Blood
    http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/loc.....38621.html

    This is in Texas? I thought they wouldn’t do such a thing there.

  23. 23

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 9:30 am

    The Trans-Pacific Partnership Treaty Is the Complete Opposite of “Free Trade”

    http://truth-out.org/opinion/i.....free-trade

    I want fair trade.

  24. 24

    Ekim spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 9:34 am

    21. No Time for Fascists spews:

    Notice that the republicans never ever list anything they would replace the The Affordable Care Act with?

    But they do have a Really Affordable Care Plan.

    Get sick. Get well fast.
    Get really sick. Kill yourself.
    It worked for Katherine Harris’ husband.

  25. 25

    Puddybud - Back to the Original! spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 10:30 am

    Don’t young parents tend to vote DUMMOCRETIN and then wise up later in life? Well if they can’t keep their doctor, who is like a family member in the early years, what will they do?

    And so it begins… blame the insurers who were forced to provide something called “Essential Health Benefits” Google that sucka and view those requirements!

  26. 26

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 11:05 am

    @14 “That’s not what Obummer’s sadministration is telling the world SENILE Wabbit. So why are you disagreeing with the official DUMMOCRETIN party line?”

    Puddykins, since you’re too stupid to figure it out, I’ll spell it out for you:

    Obama works for Wall Street. I rob Wall Street.

    There. Is it clear now?

  27. 27

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 11:07 am

    @15 Yeah, our poll ratings look bad — until someone compares them to yours.

  28. 28

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 11:08 am

    @22 Texas is a foreign country. They do whatever they want to.

  29. 29

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 11:25 am

    Lonely man who pretends to be puddy, the quote you want is

    “Show me a young Conservative and I’ll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I’ll show you someone with no brains.”
    ― Winston Churchill

  30. 30

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 11:29 am

    “If by a “Liberal” they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties-someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a “Liberal”, then I’m proud to say I’m a “Liberal.”
    ― John F. Kennedy, Profiles in Courage

    What are conservatives proud of?

  31. 31

    ArtFart spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 11:45 am

    @5, @9 Our first child, from when she was a baby, was a perfect angel in public places and we could take her to any restaurant with confidence the only effect she’d have on other people would be to charm the heck out of them. Our second was somewhat more boisterous as a toddler, and sometimes his outbursts would be offensive to the waitstaff or other patrons. When that happened, we’d respectfully apologize, pay our bill (with an extra-large tip) and leave.

    Nope, the issue Roger’s referring to isn’t about pointing fingers at the Sharkansky kid. It’s about the kid’s peckerhead of a father.

  32. 32

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 12:07 pm

    I see the puddibigot had time to drop by and excrete some GOP propaganda, but refuses to lay out what he thinks would be a superior alternative in terms of providing health care services to those who are uninsured or underinsured.

    Coward.

  33. 33

    rhp6033 spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 12:14 pm

    Today’s lead story in the fishwrapper was about how so many states are salivating for Boeing to relocate in their state.

    But it’s not realistic. Boeing might hold out the promise to get concessions from other sites, but there are really a limited number of sites capable of supporting the 777X program, it’s wing assembly, and the multitude of vendors and logistics necessary to build an aircraft.

    This includes Puget Sound, Long Beach, Charleston (albeit land issues). Long shots include Wichita (weather problems), and Mobile (the Airbus presence there is a a security concernt for Boeing).

    Those with NO CHANCE includes anywhere in Texas and other suitors.

  34. 34

    Puddybud - Back to the Original! spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 12:34 pm

    “Liberal”, then I’m proud to say I’m a “Liberal.”
    ― John F. Kennedy, Profiles in Courage

    Fascist one… You are no John Kennedy!

  35. 35

    Puddybud - Back to the Original! spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 12:54 pm

    The Libtard in Obummer’s pocket media has some explaining to do with their slobbering champeening of Obummercare… Here are the whoppers…

    Healthcare.gov is So ‘Easy’ to Use – “This is the Web site folks, healthcare.gov. If you go to this Web site, you will find out how easy it is to read, how easy it is to navigate all the information, all the basic questions, and all the direction you need to take to get involved, to get health care. This is a great guide, if I may say, for any of you out there who feel so confused by all of these right-wing commercials that are just permeating through your television screen.”
    — Host Ed Schultz on MSNBC’s The Ed Show, September 30, 2013.

    When you drink the kook-aid, you naturally become a kook!

  36. 36

    Puddybud - Back to the Original! spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 12:58 pm

    I see the PUDDY had time to drop by and excrete some GOP propaganda, but refuses to lay out what he thinks would be a superior alternative in terms of providing health care services to those who are uninsured or underinsured.

    Lunatic moron schmucko-idiot… There have been many proposals from the GOP since 2010. Obummer rejected them because none lead to single payer.

  37. 37

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 1:00 pm

    Boeing’s stock dropped over $4.50 today. McNerney’s IRA probably lost seven figures. That’s what he gets for messing with the union. I wonder what the stock will be worth after Boeing announces it’s going to build the 777x in Dubai with dollar-a-day Pakistan laborers? And the only people who will fly on them will be low-wage laborers commuting from Pakistan to Dubai. That doesn’t look like a profit-making proposition to me. Apparently it doesn’t to the stock market, either.

  38. 38

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 1:07 pm

    @35 Here’s the GOP’s healthcare enrollment website:

    http://www.easy-bankruptcy.com/

  39. 39

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 1:10 pm

    @36 Why didn’t they make those proposals when they were running the government?

  40. 40

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 1:42 pm

    @34. Amusing how the coward who won’t defend his conservative values, when exposed to a positive ideal, a vision of good, a defining statement that is uplifting, he attacked the messenger.
    I think he cannot stand that our vision for the country is good and compassionate, is what Jesus would admire, and his version is not.

    We all know what conservatives are against, but they will not admit to what they are for.

  41. 41

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 1:43 pm

    @38 Funny!

  42. 42

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 1:52 pm

    @41 re @38: Republicans ran the country for 30 years and that’s the healthcare system they gave us during all that time. When Clinton proposed healthcare reform in 1993, they said no, no, no. When healthcare reform was on the congressional agenda in 2003, they voted no, no, no. If they now have “proposals” they want us to consider, I would say they’re late to the party.

  43. 43

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 1:57 pm

    If Republicans don’t want single payer, they should help Obamacare succeed, because if Obamacare fails, we’ll likely
    end up with universal Medicare.

  44. 44

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 1:58 pm

    correction @42: excuse me, 2009 not 2003

  45. 45

    ArtFart spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 2:20 pm

    @32 C’mon…does anyone who isn’t demented or delusional really not understand that Pudnutz and his fellow GOPers don’t want to “provide healthcare” to the working class, just like they don’t want to provide affordable housing, food assistance or education. They want to keep ’em dumb and desperate enough to work for peanuts and shut up.

  46. 46

    Puddybud - Back to the Original! spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 2:27 pm

    Obama works for Wall Street. I rob Wall Street.

    Weally DUMB Wabbit? Then the OWS crowd like Fraggy are as stoooooooooooooopid as ever jock strapping a wall street freak!

  47. 47

    Puddybud - Back to the Original! spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 2:31 pm

    @34. Amusing how the coward who won’t defend his conservative values, when exposed to a positive ideal, a vision of good, a defining statement that is uplifting, he attacked the messenger.

    Who claimed Puddy was a libtard Fascist Pigsty? Puddy been sticking up for Puddy’s conservative values since 2005. You are a moronic jackASS! You are very delusional!

    I think he cannot stand that our vision for the country is good and compassionate, is what Jesus would admire, and his version is not.

    Puddy has lived your version in Philadelphia. No thank you very much!

  48. 48

    Puddybud - Back to the Original! spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 2:33 pm

    don’t want to “provide healthcare” to the working class

    Once again FartyArt proves to all his nose and ASS are in libtard web sites!

    Does FartyArt EVAH pay attention to the details?

    Apparently not your honor. The prosecution rests your honor!

  49. 49

    Puddybud - Back to the Original! spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 2:41 pm

    Wow, did Sebelius really say that?

    “Had I known then, what I know now, things would have been different,” she added.

    PuddyCommentary: Why didn’t you WANT to know then? Your own CIO was raising red flags back in March 2013.

    She said that she was told that since Tuesday morning, at least two more South Floridians had successfully signed up for the program. She repeatedly said the government website did not have enough testing before it was launched.

    Amazing two whole peeps. Waytogo libtardos! All this means is the front end of ObummerCare still can’t handle anywhere near the promised land of demand, even though ObummerCare makes enrollments mandatory or you pay that fine! When do you pay Sebelius?

  50. 50

    Puddybud - Back to the Original! spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 3:47 pm

    Last Friday on Da Perfessa’s favrit cable network PMSNBC, Martin Bashir basically said someone should shit on Sarah Palin’s mouth and piss in her eyes and mouth.

    “When Mrs. Palin invokes slavery, she doesn’t just prove her rank ignorance. She confirms if anyone truly qualified for a dose of discipline from Thomas Thistlewood, she would be the outstanding candidate,” he concluded.

    Puddy wonders how many HA DUMMOCRETINS are shocked and dismayed at his crass commentary.? Since no one came out and condemned it, Puddy wondered why. So Puddy asks. Puddy has a good idea which HA DUMMOCRETINS cheer this commentary.

    Prove Puddy wrong HA DUMMOCRETINS!

  51. 51

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 3:48 pm

    I just had a fascinating discussion with my coworkers. It started with one giving the blanket statement that “Regulation is the problem” but when pressed, they couldn’t cite a regulation that they had a problem with. I gave the metaphor that capitalism without regulation is like football without rules, it’s just the bigger stronger guys beating the shit out of the weaker ones and then going and rampaging in the bleachers. They agreed, that was not what they meant by too much regulation.

    Anyway after more probing, when they said regulations, they meant fees. They felt that all the endless fees for everything was a problem
    Then they got to the root problem. They hated the mismanagement of government. They hated when government was dictatorial and imposed new regulations and fees for no reasons. Government set the rules and changed them for no reason, like establishing a 300 foot set back from the river and then changing it 500 feet. They hated the corruptions where shoddy work was done and rewarded. They hated that tunnels were rammed through, against the will of the people.
    So what they hated was government that seemed corrupt, unfair and dictatorial. I agree with them. Nobody, liberal or conservative wants a local, state or national government to make one feel powerless and ripped off.

  52. 52

    No Time for Fascists spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 4:03 pm

    @50. Shorter puddy. Flag Pin!

    Because you have not shown instant denial against [Insert outrage here], you must be an agent of evil, plotting against all that is good about civilization!

  53. 53

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 4:47 pm

    The Koch brothers are funding an attack ad against Sen. Mark Begich (D-AK) that uses a Maryland actress who pretends to be an Alaska voter.

    Asked about it, the actress shrugged and said, “I’m just an actress.” In other words, she gets paid to do commercials, and says what she’s paid to say, whether it’s a sale pitch for laundry soap or a Koch brothers script.

    Which is fine as far as it goes. They can advertise anything they want. Hopefully, Begich will run ads reminding Alaskans that woman is a paid spokesperson doing the bidding of billionaires, not an Alaskan voter.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....12485.html

  54. 54

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 4:53 pm

    @52 Speaking of outrage, wingnuts are circulating an e-mail accusing Obama of omitting the phrase “under God” from a reading of the Gettysburg Address he did for PBS’ Ken Burns.

    He’s guilty. Obama didn’t say “under God,” which appears in popular versions of the Gettysburg address.

    More specifically, in the last three version of the GA. Lincoln didn’t write “under God” in his first two drafts. He only inserted it in the third, fourth, and fifth drafts.

    Burns asked the five living presidents and ex-presidents to read the five different versions of the GA, giving a different version to each. Sounds innocuous enough, doesn’t it? He assigned the first version, the so-called Nicolay version, to Obama.

    Obama read the Nicolay version of the GA exactly as Lincoln wrote it.

    Who could find fault with that? Well, the Breitbart blog, for one, and then all the other rightwing bloggers who picked it up from Breitbart and gleefully galloped forth into the blogosphere with it, thinking they’d score a major “gotcha.”

    What Breitbart has, and the wingnuts who have propagated this email have, in their possession is a cheap shot.

    No surprise there. We expect that from them. It’s what they’re good at.

  55. 55

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 5:08 pm

    @46 Yes, weally.

  56. 56

    Puddybud - Back to the Original! spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 5:29 pm

    Fascist Pigsty,

    It’s exactly the same commentary from HA DUMMOCRETINS when someone on the right says something not as bad but it gets DUMMOCRETIN panties in a bind!

    So Fascist Pigsty must agree! Q.E.D. per checkmate Flag Pin!

  57. 57

    Michael spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 5:33 pm

    And it’s The Washington Times FTW in the category of: World’s Most Delusional Headline.

    Gay-marriage momentum comes to a sudden halt after Illinois

  58. 58

    Puddybud - Back to the Original! spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 5:42 pm

    Just think Obummer is at 37% approval WITHOUT the help of media pounding him over and over as they did with GW Bush! Obummer has done this all by his lonesome, it’s all Obummer!

  59. 59

    Puddybud - Back to the Original! spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 5:45 pm

    Look at the blue states rejecting the ObummerCare fix proffered by Obummer last week. Well Cuomo claims NY State’s exchange is working. Butt, insurance was sky high before Obummercare.

  60. 60

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 5:52 pm

    In response to my challenge to the puddibigot to put up an alternative to the ACA that he would favor. He gives us a link to a site whining about MSNBC liberals making the same challenge. However, that site is terribly light on substance as well, saying in their favor only this…

    There are the plans put forth by Reps. Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.) Paul Broun (R-Ga.) and Tom Price (R-Ga.), for starters. And “The American Health Care Reform Act” from the Republican Study Committee.

    So puddibigot, enlighten us…which of the plans do you favor? Ryan’s? Broun’s? Price’s? Why? How would one of them, or all of them be better? Why do you prefer them? How will they better solve the problem of millions of people without access to doctors or treatments or care?

    Show your work.

  61. 61

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 8:11 pm

    Ohio Republicans think gunmen should have a freer hand in shooting people, should have less training before flashing guns in public, and druggies should be allowed to carry concealed handguns.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....13361.html

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Sounds to me like their future election strategy is to depopulate their state until it takes only 1 voter to win Ohio’s electoral votes.

  62. 62

    Puddybud - Back to the Original! spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 9:02 pm

    There is only one who’s light on substance… that’s schmucko-lunatic. Did schmucko-lunatic read H.R. 3121 Bill? Prolly not. Anything is better than Obummercare. A friend of my just enlightened me. She has 4 children, 2 in college. Paid $290 for a comprehensive plan. Was told it didn’t have those “Essential Health Benefits”. Well her new plan with those Essential Health Ripoffs now $1,128 and she receives less coverage. Now she has two mortgages. She’s pay the $95 penalty!

    Now schmucko-lunatic do you repudiate Martin Bashir or cheer him?

  63. 63

    Puddybud - Back to the Original! spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 9:11 pm

    BTW the WaPo and CBS Polls are heavily weighted DUMMOCRETIN and Obummer at 37/36% approval.

    Gotta give it to DUMMOCRETINS. Keep ObummerCare coming.

    When asked why officials pushed ahead with the Oct. 1 launch date despite warnings the site hadn’t been properly tested, Sebelius said they were hoping to give consumers as much time as possible to enroll before coverage begins in January.

    “We were hoping to maximize that,” she said. “Clearly that was a bad call.”

    Must be the really LIVs and hard core DUMMOCRETINS are those still positive responders!

  64. 64

    Puddybud - Back to the Original! spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 9:17 pm

    “The 30th of November is not a magic go, no go date. It is a work of constant improvement. We have some very specific things we know we need to complete by the 30th and that punch list is getting knocked out every week,” Sebelius told The Associated Press.

    Really? That’s not what Obummer told us! Obummer claimed: “the improvement will be marked and noticeable.”

  65. 65

    Puddybud - Back to the Original! spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 9:21 pm

    When you work on PMSNBC and you call someone a cocksucking fag (clue a scream from gleeeeeeeeeeeeeman here), you are suspended on PMSNBC. Call someone to piss and shit in Sarah Palin’s mouth you are revered on PMSNBC! Hey, Bashir’s comments were on a teleprompter. Someone had to type them in. A producer had to approve them. So it’s another DUMMOCRETIN day at PMSMBC, just like it’s here on HA DUMMOCRETINS!

  66. 66

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 9:26 pm

    Here’s a description of HR3121, from the “Republican Study Committee” that sponsored it…

    -Fully repeals President Obama’s health care law, eliminating billions in taxes and thousands of pages of unworkable regulations and mandates that are driving up health care costs.
    -Spurs competition to lower health care costs by allowing Americans to purchase health insurance across state lines and enabling small businesses to pool together and get the same buying power as large corporations.
    -Reforms medical malpractice laws in a commonsense way that limits trial lawyer fees and non-economic damages while maintaining strong protections for patients.
    -Provides tax reform that allows families and individuals to deduct health care costs, just like companies, leveling the playing field and providing all Americans with a standard deduction for health insurance.
    -Expands access to Health Savings Accounts (HSAs), increasing the amount of pre-tax dollars individuals can deposit into portable savings accounts to be used for health care expenses.
    -Safeguards individuals with pre-existing conditions from being discriminated against purchasing health insurance by bolstering state-based high risk pools and extending HIPAA guaranteed availability protections.
    -Protects the unborn by ensuring no federal funding of abortions.

    Health savings accounts, tort reform, taking away women’s autonomy, tax deductions.

    Weak tea, and a bunch of Teahaddist wet dream stuff thrown in.

    puddibigot – give us your analysis – how many of the presently uninsured, and underinsured will gain access to actual medical care with these changes?
    Why is this better than the ACA?
    Why do you like this particular bill, and not the Ryan plan, or the Price plan, or the Broun plan?
    Could you compare and contrast all of those, and inform us as to why you picked the one you did, and why it will work better than the ACA to provide the best, most widely accessible solution to the problem of poor access to medical care?

  67. 67

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 9:33 pm

    @64

    Puddibigot…you really don’t understand that this…

    “the improvement will be marked and noticeable.”

    and this…

    “The 30th of November is not a magic go, no go date. It is a work of constant improvement.”

    are perfectly congruent and do not at all contradict each other? They both can be quite true in describing the same thing, and do not at all conjure some nefarious dishonesty.

    You’re fucking illiterate.

  68. 68

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Wednesday, 11/20/13 at 9:33 pm

    Please proceed, puddibigot…

  69. 69

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Thursday, 11/21/13 at 2:44 am

    Besides the issues with the mayor of Toronto, another scandal with Conservatives, the Senate scandal continues to grow. With allegations from the RCMlP investigating it alleging that the PM’s office of doctoring a key repport.
    http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/news/story/1.2434323

  70. 70

    EvergreenRailfan spews:

    Thursday, 11/21/13 at 3:28 am

    @69, that’s the RCMP investigating. As for the Senators, they were part of a new group intended to change the Canadian Senate, a goal of Prime Minister Harper, and now it is going to tarnish him.

  71. 71

    Puddybud - Back to the Original! spews:

    Thursday, 11/21/13 at 6:32 am

    Why is this better than the ACA?

    Oh you mean Obummercare? You mean you forgot Obummer loved it being called Obummercare? You mean you forgot Obummer loved it being called Obummercare? From the mouth of your preznit…

    Once it’s working really well, I guarantee you, they will not call it Obamacare. Here is a prediction for you. A few years from now, when people are using this to get coverage, everybody is feeling good about the choices they’ve got, there are going to be a whole bunch of folks that will say, yeah, yeah, I always thought this provision was excellent. I voted for that thing. You watch. It will not be called Obamacare.

    From Glenn Beck who nails it again…

    “Let’s take the past few months,” Stu said. “In July in his speeches, he said the Affordable Care Act 16 times and Obamacare 15 times. So right about even. Again in August, about even. He used the Affordable Care Act 10 times and Obamacare 7 times. Okay? Now we’re up to the ramp-up period – September – it’s about to launch, the buildup is coming. You might think maybe he has a thought that there’s going to be some problems. In September he went 44 times Affordable Care Act, 15 times Obamacare.” It is what has happened since October 1, however, that is particularly telling.

    “So the first two months were about a one-to-one ratio. Then he goes to a three-to-one ratio a little before September. A little odd, a little increase there, however, it’s October where it actually launches where he goes to a 50-to-2 – two Obamacare mentions… A 25-to-1 ratio Affordable Care Act to Obamacare.”

    That’s odd schmucko-lunatic, because Obummer loved it being called Obummercare. So now it’s not Obummercare, it’s the ACA. Direct from Daily Kooks you get your marching orders. HAHAHAHAHA No one calls it Obummercare anymore. Still so shrill schmucko-lunatic is, a real schmuck! Duke University Professor Chris Conover estimates 129 million people will affected using the numbers you proffered from the LA Times report. That blows away any “uninsured” number you DUMMOCRETINS love to provide.

    So schmucko-lunatic how does your side reconcile those numbers? Wait… It’s just estimates will be the retort.

    Remember you could keep you doctor and your health plan per Obummer (NOW BIG LIES), so any uninsured estimates are hard to believe these days.

    The rest of your rant is as feckless as always.

  72. 72

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Thursday, 11/21/13 at 6:56 am

    @71

    That was a lot of words – including a Glenn Beck quote! – to not answer my question.

    See, I suspect you have no answer, and would prefer to wallow in Beckian idiocy about AVA v. Obamacare nomenclature…but really, you seem to venomously against Obamacare, I assume you have an alternate plan you like.

    In response to that question the first time, you again gave a link that whined about Obamacare, but did mention in passing a number of Republican plans.

    I’ll ask again…

    puddibigot – give us your analysis – how many of the presently uninsured, and underinsured will gain access to actual medical care with these changes?
    Why is this better than the ACA?
    Why do you like this particular bill, and not the Ryan plan, or the Price plan, or the Broun plan?
    Could you compare and contrast all of those, and inform us as to why you picked the one you did, and why it will work better than the ACA to provide the best, most widely accessible solution to the problem of poor access to medical care?

    Now, in fairness, you did mention the name HR3121, and accused me of not reading it. Have you? Would you share your thoughts, your critique?

    Please show your work.

  73. 73

    Puddybud - Back to the Original! spews:

    Thursday, 11/21/13 at 8:09 am

    to not answer my question.

    Can’t schmucko-moron read? Puddy answered the question. AND…….. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Puddy not going to answer it again. Damn you are as dense as granite. Puddy read the original parts of HR 3121 when offered as an alternative to Obummercare long ago in 2010 schmucko-moron… Search HA and review the commentary from other HA DUMMOCRETINS regarding NO Republican alternative to Obummercare. Search what Nancy Pelosi told Republicans. Puddy offered all the links to everything Pelosi and Max Baucus rejected back in 2010. It’s all there. Why not email your bestus bud unemployed moron ylb for a crazed databaze review.

    You are one of those 24 hour moronic moonbat memory malady morons. Anything past 24 hours is forgotten and you need to capture it to remember it.

    See ya dense as granite DUMMOCRETIN! Puddy ain’t yo bitch schmucko-lunatic. You are mine. Plain and simple.

    Oh yeah wait for it… schmucko-moron will bray and snort Puddy running away. Puddy give links to many things. The Glenn Beck link is easily found! Puddy suggests you search for it since it bothers you so much about facts from Glenn!

  74. 74

    Deathfrogg spews:

    Thursday, 11/21/13 at 8:51 am

    SpittlePuddles @ 71

    You do know that Beck is an avowed white supremacist right? You forget, I knew the dude in high school. He hasn’t changed his stripes at all, and has only become more vehemently racist since. He’s a fucking psychopath, and to him, you’re just obsolete farm machinery. According to his “faith”, you are what they call a son of Ham. Not fit to have any value for anything but physical labor.

    The fact that you quote him, knowing full well that he speaks with the most venomous atavism in his heart to anyone not Mormon and especially NOT WHITE, speaks incredible volumes about your cognitive abilities.

  75. 75

    Steve (Sharkansky is my bitch) spews:

    Thursday, 11/21/13 at 9:00 am

    “you are what they call a son of Ham”

    Alas, my friend Puddy bares the mark of Cain. Sucks.

  76. 76

    demmocretin spews:

    Thursday, 11/21/13 at 12:22 pm

    I’ll answer this one for puddy since he may be a little too embarrassed to come right out and say it. The RepubliCon health plan is to open a Health Savings Account, and if you get really sick, hope you die quickly, because whatever meager amount you’ve managed to save won’t help you for long.

  77. 77

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Thursday, 11/21/13 at 5:00 pm

    @73
    More squid ink.

    “I already answered that”, when he hadn’t, is standard puddibigot M.O.

    Rather than referencing alleged analysis from some post in 2010, why don’t you give an affirmative, precise and detailed argument for what you’re for, rather than against.

    Wouldn’t you rather proclaim and testify in favor of what you love and believe, than just wallow in criticism of what you hate?

    Don’t hide your light under a basket!
    Proclaim the Good News of right-wing healthcare management!

    I doubt you’re capable of doing this, so this is going to end up just being a taunt, one that makes you look stupid and cowardly…but prove me wrong – make a case for what you believe would be good policy that serves the country, that solves this very real problem.

    Which plan or plans do you favor, and why? Why would that be superior to the ACA/Obamacare? How will people be better off with your favored plan, as opposed tot he status quo, or with the ACA?

    C’mon, puddibigot, show us your brilliance.

  78. 78

    Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

    Thursday, 11/21/13 at 5:10 pm

    Puddy give links to many things. The Glenn Beck link is easily found!


    Sic transit gloria puddibigotii
    .

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