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I’m not the only one who thinks Paul Ryan has thrown down a gauntlet instead of offering a way out of the budget impasse.
“If you boiled down the media’s reaction to Paul Ryan’s budget to a three-letter phrase, it would be: WTF? Most commentators and reporters are flummoxed that the new budget, released this morning, makes no concession to the fact that Republicans just ran a presidential campaign on these very ideas and were soundly defeated.”
Meanwhile, House conservatives are upset, too, because the latest iteration of The Ryan Budget fails to repeal the fiscal cliff tax increases. Bottom line: despite campaigning and losing on their “principles” last year, the hard-right is doubling down and insisting on an even more rightwing budget than voters rejected. This truly is a “WTF?” moment.
http://www.businessweek.com/ar.....ans-budget
Roger Rabbit Commentary: Perhaps the fact guns are flying off shelves, even though fewer American households own guns than ever before, is a clue. Maybe these people are scheming to take by force what they can’t win at the ballot box. In which case liberals must arm.
Hey!
If it is Tuesday it is time to drink liberally and laugh at our Serial RENEGER!
We’re now 20 weeks since Kap’n Kornflake lost his bet by depending upon unskewed polls! and undying belief that he knew fk what about the American electorate … and he has yet to meet the obligation of the wager he lost to me.
Drink a toast to Kap’n Kornflake and the serial RENEGING Republican yahoos!
Followup for RHP…
A week or two back, topic being a paywall, you related how your web site linked to a news site, thereby enhancing the linkee’s site by driving traffic.
Relevant:
A Day in the Life of a Digital Editor, 2013
Like the argument made on mondaynote.com the case for charging for linking is that linkers benefit more than the content creators, extracting value that might otherwise go to the content provider.
Now I understand that you’re not Google. They definitely sit between readers and content makers, extracting the most value.
I’m still undecided if I favor charging for linking or not. Right now I’m just trying to understand the side of the content creators. My primary motivation, like so many other people, is trying to figure out how to cover the costs of original reporting (journalism).
The Family Research Council is a unique set of oddballs who in a recent publication advocated that adultery is something that society should “punish”..
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/.....-punish-it
Strange in that if that were carried out, many if not most Republicans would be wearing scarlet “A”‘s.
I hope they don’t get Scaife funding.
Ahh. The Clinton days when right wingers were really feeling their oats bathed in baptisms of hatred for Bill and Hillary… A new batshit-insane conspiracy theory a day back then it seemed.
Let’s flash back to Larry Klayman of Judicial Watch:
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/.....ite-people
Oh wait.. He wasn’t talking about Bill!
There’s da rub DUMB Wabbit… media in da tank for Obummer@
@4 – The Bible also states that anyone who is divorced and remarries is an adulterer. And the person who marries that previously married individual, whether previously married or not, is also an adulterer. Half the population would have to be tattooed with an “A” on their forehead. Would be great. Puffy’s bible and people – wacko’s.
@5
Klayman – What I have seen is, and I never thought it was even imaginable when I was fighting [Bill] Clinton, I do believe that it is possible now. I think that Obama knows that at some point a significant portion of this country is going to rise up and possibly become violent and I hope and pray that that does not happen.
Yeah, right. This is exactly what he wants to happen. He needs an excuse to annihilate minorities.
@ 1
fewer American households own guns than ever before,
Not accurate as stated, I don’t think. A smaller percentage of American households own guns, compared with previous polls.
The number of households is growing, however.
Since guns are probably ‘flying off the shelves’ at a greater pace than they are being destroyed or sold by our government to Mexican drug cartels, the absolute number of guns in this country is very likely increasing, and the absolute number of households in which they are stored is very likely increasing as well.
Might seem like a small point, but if someone such as yourself, supposedly highly educated, militarily trained, a barrister, and a judge, is to weigh in as you do, that someone should at least try to be credible about it.
Another Republican crook bites the dust.
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_.....probe?lite
@9 I’m not in a mood for semantical quibbles of this nature. You know what I (and the Seattle Times) meant, and so does everyone else who reads this blog.
@9 (continued) If you want to crunch numbers, here’s a database for you to work from.
http://www.economagic.com/em-c.....table13c01
@11, 12
Wheedling, picayunish, ultimately inaccurate whining, inevitably in service of setting up a condescending insult.
Just Bob being Bob.
@13 Sure. Wingnut Central is worried about me, so the boiler room supervisor ordered Bob and Ten to snipe at me. It won’t do them any good, because no one wants their product lineup.
I’m surprised they’re not sniping at the Obama Recovery. We have two economies in this country, and Obama’s policies are fostering this divide: The rich are doing fine (stock market’s up, spending by affluent consumers is up), the middle class is going nowhere (falling unemployment numbers mask the fact good jobs are being replaced by low-wage and part-time jobs). The middle is slowly reducing debt, but only by means of foreclosure and bankruptcy, there’s no repayment going on and the savings rate is negative. Meanwhile, the Fed has pumped $3 trillion of new money into the financial system, but it all ended up on bank balance sheets or in the stock market (banks and shareholders are doing great); none has trickled down to small businesses or households. The little guy running a dry cleaners or used bookstore still can’t borrow. America’s economic system isn’t working for the vast majority of Americans. Hey, this isn’t an endorsement of Obama’s rivals; the GOP’s policies are far worse for the little guys. Which is why Obama and Bernanke are able to get away with it.
If the GOP did its job as the opposition party, everyone would be better off, but don’t hold your breath waiting for a miracle.
@ 13
Hey, Lib Sci, while your children are working up to begin wearing their own masks, which hopefully they won’t drop the way you did when you referred in derogatory terms to the skin color of someone you don’t like, maybe they can begin by wearing one of these:
• Wear a white wristband as a reminder about your privilege, and as a personal commitment to explain why you wear the wristband.
http://www.620wtmj.com/blogs/c.....97831.html
It can help them to believe , like you, that they are actually helping in some way when they use skin color as a weapon against their opponents in their own lives.
You would be so proud, Lib Sci.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/po.....anopoulos/
2014 Baby! If not then, then there’s a shitty struggle in 2016.. The vote suppressors will be outright fraudsters by that time.
@ 18
WTF?
What was cut out of the deficit other than the $600M in 10 years by the expiration of the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, YLB? What’s the other $2,000,000,000,000 he’s talking about?
Is it the expiration of the FICA holiday? The end of the wars that were going to end anyway?
Where else is he counting that money?
Rather than cut-and-paste some unattributed and unanswered comment made by The One, maybe read a little more critically.
BTW the Senate budget plan still hasn’t been produced for review. When it is, you’ll find that there’s no additional $2T cut.
I would give Obama credit for his willingness to address entitlements – he’s gone there in the past and he’s going there now. Whether that gets past the Senate is another issue but he’s been using back channels, I’m reading, to argue that cuts there will be necessary. Credit where credit is due. He could be more specific in public about it, but I’ll take it.
@19 Maybe if you read a newspaper once in a while you’d know something.
@18 If I were Obama, after what Ryan/GOP did yesterday, I’d walk away too. That was a declaration of war, not an offer to work for a compromise. Negotiation and diplomacy have limits; when you’re dealing with jerks, sometimes the only thing they understand is a fist in the face. We seem to have reached that point with the GOP.
Trayvon Martin reached that point with George Zimmerman, too, but in that case the bad guy had a gun and behaved like bad-guys-with-guns usually do. This is why I keep saying liberals must arm. As someone said once, “Don’t bring brass knuckles to a gunfight.” If the other guy wants to fight with guns, you gotta bring a gun to the gunfight. Liberals must arm.
@ 20, 21, 22
Forgot your meds again, RR.
And as far as Obama walking away, he’s still got to sign the CR by the end of the month.
There’s another way to describe walking away. It’s called folding.
Jason @ # 3: I’ll admit that my own experience doesn’t compare to the Googles and Yahoos of the world. If they have a way of re-displaying the content, and stripping out the ads and displaying their own via cookies, then that’s a problem.
But is their complaint that the Google cookies over-ride their own cookies? If so, I doubt they would get much sympathy.
We are in agreement that original content and in-depth reporting needs to be paid for, and rewarded.
But if everyone doesn’t put up a paywall, people will just find a way around those that do. Fairview Fannie just doesn’t have enough original quality reporting to justify paying for it online – I can get the same or similar content for free by subscribing to any number of wire service news feeds, local corporate press releases, etc. (It’s interesting to see corporate news releases cut and pasted wholesale into stories, with only minor changes).
Speaking of race and the GOP, I see that they ventured into Brooklyn to do an outreach to blacks. Well, actually, it was an outreach to twenty black Republicans.
Two thoughts here. First, there are twenty black Republicans in Brooklyn?? Second, isn’t this like the GOP addressing their black problem by reaching out to Puddy? Yeah, I’m sure that’d be effective. Don’t you agree, Bob?
Republicans. Bound and determined to blow it again in 2014 and 2016. If Bob had any sense, he’d be talking about that instead of nipping at the heals of Democrats and coming up with comical accusations of racism against Lib Sci.
Your GOP ship is sinking, Bob. Um, wouldn’t your time be better spent bailing water? I must say, though, to see you continue to waste your time and energies here whining about Democrats and so utterly failing at tagging Lib Sci as a racist works just fine for me.
As for you and your Trayvon “thug” comment. I remember quite clearly when you called Martin a “thug”. Your statements above are revisionist history. Your accusation that Martin was a thug was based on fake photos and a fake tweet posted on a racist wingnut hate site.
Don’t bother with the dance, Bob. YLB and his amazing “databaze” can easily find your comment that started it all. It would be the first time you used the word “thug”.
@23 “he’s still got to sign the CR”
No he doesn’t. If he doesn’t like it, he can refuse to sign it, then let the government shut down and blame the GOPers. And there’s no doubt at all in the recent polls about who the public will blame. Their disapproval ratings are two or three times his.
Some GOP mouthpieces have accused Obama of trying to destroy the Republican Party. I hope they’re right.
@ 3, 24
Maybe unrelated, maybe not:
The Chromebook doesn’t even use Windows, let alone Microsoft Office. Everything goes through Google Documents. (You don’t need to buy virus protection either. This thing was $250, all in.)
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Maybe that makes me a captive of Google, but so what? I have to use someone’s operating system.
http://www.marketwatch.com/sto.....2013-03-13
I have six Macs for work and peripheral locations. Original iPad. Original Kindle Fire and the new Fire HD 8.9. Still think I need the Macs, or some other PC, for non-work document stuff.
But would a Chromebook make me think otherwise?
@17. Serial “Still won’t pay your debts” Conn, what are you babbling about? Really, you are making no more sense than as puddy.
From yesterday, http://horsesass.org/?p=49418#comment-1218518
I still don’t see the posts where you document what Liberal said that was so racist.
Mass Shooting Of The Day (TM)
“HERKIMER, N.Y. — Authorities have identified the man they believe killed four people and wounded two others at separate shootings in neighboring upstate New York villages.
“Joseph Malone, the police chief for Herkimer and Mohawk, says authorities are looking for 64-year-old Kurt Meyers, of Mohawk. Officials say guns and ammunition were found inside his apartment after emergency crews were sent to a fire there Wednesday morning.
“Soon after, police say two people were fatally shot and two others wounded at John’s Barber Shop, around the corner from the apartment. Officials say the second shooting happened about a mile away in Herkimer, where two people were killed at Gaffey’s Fast Lube and Car Wash.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....67414.html
Roger Rabbit Commentary: I think we should start confiscating guns from angry old white men with homicidal inclinations. And take away their matches and lighters and gas cans, too.
@ 25
Your accusation that Martin was a thug was based on fake photos and a fake tweet posted on a racist wingnut hate site.
Actually, Steve, that was your accusation of me. My accusation of him as a thug in training was based on his past behavior and the manner in which the physical confrontation with Zimmerman is said (by Zimmerman, admittedly) to have begun.
And regarding the GOP and Brooklyn, maybe I missed something in the thread but what the hell are you talking about?
Falling in love is a capital offense in tribal Pakistan.
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_.....-shot?lite
Roger Rabbit Commentary: What do you expect? These are the same yahoos who harbored Osama bin Laden for 10 years.
@ 26
Now you’re being the imbecile we all know you to be.
No way a CR makes it through a GOP House, a Democrat-led Senate, to Obama’s desk and doesn’t get signed.
A president who just blew the build-up to the sequester and who is down in approval by close to double-digits over the past month isn’t going to let the government shut down, asswipe. When bipartisan Congressional action results in a bill on his desk, he’ll fucking sign it. Pull your head out of your ass for the first time this morning and go take your meds.
@30 Has it occurred to you that maybe Zimmerman deserved a fist in his face? If I was hopping down the street minding my own business, in a place where I have a right to be and doing what I have a right to do, and some jerk was stalking me I’d be tempted to do what Martin did. Wouldn’t you?
There’s no doubt in my mind that Zimmerman will be convicted. He instigated the confrontation, so he can’t claim self-defense. The victim wasn’t breaking any laws or doing anything wrong, so he can’t claim justification. The thug here is George Zimmerman, not Trayvon Martin.
@ 33
Has it occurred to you that maybe Zimmerman deserved a fist in his face?
Why, yes, yes it has, RR. Has it occurred to you that maybe Martin deserved a gunshot by someone in genuine fear for his life?
I suggest you counsel the prosecuting attorney to ask the very question you just asked, as part of her closing statement to the jury. Hanging, slow curveball right down the middle. Good one. Lawyer and judge my ass. You’re an imbecile.
@32 I’m really getting to you this morning. Good! I don’t get paid for this, but I sure do enjoy it.
“Actually, Steve, that was your accusation of me.”
Horseshit. There was only one source for what you repeated here as truth, Bob, and it was a right-wing hate site posting fake photos and a fake tweet. Really, Bob, enough of the BS.
Meanwhile, what are your cohorts up to?
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/.....ok-publish
But what’s really important to you, Bob, of course, the subject of dozens of comments, is that Lib Sci once used the term “minstral show”.
Say, Bob, tell us again how it was that you determined that Zimmerman was justified in killing Martin because Martin was a mixed martial artist? And your source for that was what again? In case you forget, as you seem to have conveniently done with your “thug” comment, it’s in the “databaze” too. It’s the only time you used “MMA” in a comment.
@ 35
Any time you want to make yourself look more stupid than we already know you to be, feel free.
I’ll be pleased to point it out.
What is it with these right wingers and the voices they hear in their heads??
Oh! It’s an echo!
@ 36
“It’s the only time you used “MMA” in a comment.”
You do realize, Steve, that it was used by a witness as well, right?
However, evidence shows an eyewitness already described Trayvon Martin as raining blows down on George Zimmermnan “MMA style.”
Ragan said if more evidence came to light to support Martin has experience with MMA fighting, the case dynamics would dramatically change.
“If I am Mark O’Mara, I have my investigators out doing whatever I can do to find if Trayvon Martin had any MMA training, because if he did, then I can invalidate the opinions to charge period,” Ragan said.
http://cfnews13.com/content/ne.....n_leg.html
Apparently some of the social media that the prosecution and Martin’s family unsuccessfully sought to keep from the defense pertains to a big interest Martin had in MMA.
Nelson authorized his request to subpoena Trayvon’s Twitter and Facebook posts. In self-defense cases, she said, if there’s evidence that a victim had a violent past, it could be relevant.
The accounts were de-activated long ago, O’Mara said, but he believes they will reveal “videos out there that suggest he (Trayvon) involved himself in MMA fighting.”
That’s important because one eye-witness told investigators that he saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman, straddling him “MMA-style,” a reference to mixed-martial arts fighting, a combination of boxing, wrestling and martial arts.
http://articles.orlandosentine.....ark-o-mara
If I commented on something in the news, once, in context, why is that a problem, Steve?
“And regarding the GOP and Brooklyn, maybe I missed something in the thread but what the hell are you talking about?”
In an open thread I’m talking about the stupidity of your GOP leadership reaching out to blacks by venturing into Brooklyn to reach out to who? Black Republicans. People like Puddy. Pretty fucking stupid of your leaders, don’t you think, Bob? Of course I can understand why you don’t want to discuss the stupidity of your party leadership and how it will no doubt lead to more GOP losses in 2014 and beyond. Far better for you to be as relevant as your party leadership and nip at the heels of Democrats in a local blog with your snide comments. That’s the GOP plan for turning things around? An outreach to Puddy and snide remarks? Good luck with that, Bob. You see cleverness in what you do, I’m sure. But I see you turning into a running HA joke with your party’s continuing epic failures as the punchline.
@34 “Has it occurred to you that maybe Martin deserved a gunshot by someone in genuine fear for his life?”
Yes, that did occur to me, I’ve given it quite a bit of thought, and my answer is:
1. Martin did not deserve to get shot.
2. Until Zimmerman came along, Martin was a law-abiding citizen, in a place where he had a right to be, doing what he had a right to do, and had a legal and moral right to not be bothered by some jerk playing self-appointed vigilante.
3. Zimmerman instigated the confrontation; and that makes him, not Martin, the aggressor.
4. Zimmerman disobeyed the police dispatcher’s explicit instructions, an innocent person died as a direct result, and that makes Zimmerman a murderer.
What part of this don’t you get? You’re a fucking moron.
@38 Yeah, he reminds me of the hoary old Tonto joke I can’t repeat here because it’s considered racist now. But then, I’m apparently not the only commenter reminded of old-time racism by Bob’s comments.
@ 40
A link would be nice, Steve.
@39 I’m not going to bet money with a guy who doesn’t pay his bets, but trust me, George Zimmerman will go to prison.
“If I commented on something in the news, once, in context, why is that a problem, Steve?”
Because you posted it as fact even though as your post above shows, there’s no evidence for this whatsoever. In case you don’t know, you jumped to conclusions about Martin, “thug” and “MMA” because you’re a racist, Bob. You were obviously looking for ways to justify the shooting of a black teen. You’re still doing that. That’s racist, Bob.
But what’s really important is that Lib Sci once called Arturo Davis a minstrel show. Look, if Puddy took exception to what Lib Sci wrote I’d pay attention and respect his point of view. But not you, Bob. Because of the very real trail of racist remarks you’ve made over the last year, your own accusations of racism carry no weight whatsoever. They just make you out to be even more of a racist asswipe than you came off as being before that started.
@ 44
‘Trust me’?
Now that‘s funny.
You probably were saying the same thing about Mike Nifong’s prosecution of the Duke lacrosse players.
My guess is that following discovery, charges are reduced, and that following presentation of the prosecutor’s case, a motion for dismissal on
1) Stand your ground law and/or 2) Failure to meet burden of proof is made, and that at least some of the charges against Zimmerman are dismissed. And that’s only if it even goes to trial, which is doubtful.
Dershowitz or Roger Rabbit?
New Forensic Evidence Is Consistent With George Zimmerman’s Self Defense Claim
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....27972.html
I gotta go with Dershowitz. Always go with boxers when the alternative is shit-smeared briefs.
White Semen spewing from the Vatican Chimney – New Pope has been chosen.
Man Who Taped Mitt’s 47% Remark Comes Forward
“The bartender who recorded Mitt Romney’s infamous 47% remarks at a fundraising dinner during the presidential campaign has come out of the shadows to talk about the recording that changed the course of the 2012 campaign.
“‘How big a decision was it for you to release the tape and to go through all of this,’ Ed asked the videographer, whose identity will be revealed on-air Wednesday.
“‘It was tough,’ he said. “And I debated for a little while, but in the end I really felt it had to be put out. I felt I owed it to the people who couldn’t afford to be there themselves to hear what he really thought.’
“He went on to say: ‘I simply wanted [Romney’s] words to go out. And everybody could make a judgement based on his words and his words alone. The guy was running for the presidency and these were his core beliefs. And I think everybody can judge whether that’s appropriate or not or whether they believe the same way he does. I felt an obligation to expose the things he was saying.’
“‘Has there been any time where you feared for your life?’ Ed asked.
“‘I was up against the most powerful, the richest people in the country and the stakes were pretty high and you never know what could happen,’ said the man who shot the 47% video. ‘There’s nuts out there. You just don’t know. I’ve certainly had threats.'”
http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/03/12.....tt-romney/
Roger Rabbit Commentary: The bottom line here is that Mitt Romney was unfit to be president, this man helped voters come to that realization, and millions of Americans are better off as a result. The righties will call him all sorts of horrible names, and maybe threaten his life, and maybe one of them will even take a shot at him. But this man did not get paid for what he did, or get any other personal benefit from it, and it will end up costing him a lot personally. We all owe him a debt of gratitude.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minstrel_show
That’s Serial “Won’t pay his debts” Conn’s reason for claiming that Liberal is racist? Serial “Won’t pay his debts” Conn has consistently posted much worse about non political figures in the news. Typical.
@49 Bob is a straw-grasper.
Breaking News — Conclave Elects A Pope
@ 49
From your link, NTfF:
The minstrel show played a powerful role in shaping assumptions about blacks. However, unlike vehemently anti-black propaganda from the time, minstrelsy made this attitude palatable to a wide audience by couching it in the guise of well intentioned paternalism.[120] Blacks were in turn expected to uphold these stereotypes or else risk white retaliation.[121]
My point about Lib Sci, who expects Davis to uphold what’s expected of him because of his skin color. As Davis did not adhere to Lib Sci’s expectations, Lib Sci felt free, among friends on HA, to use Davis’ skin color as a means of attack.
Very retaliatory on Lib Sci’s part, don’t you think? Thanks for the help, NTfF.
@ 44
George Zimmerman will go to prison.
Just so YLB has it in his database, what will be the crime for which he’s convicted, RR?
“This man is a HARVARD LAW PROFESSOR. So all you computer chair lawyer wannabees better do more studying if you think you are right over him.”
Too funny. A wingnut comment from Bob’s Dershowitz link. When defending the senseless murder of a black teen, for wingnuts being a Harvard law professor means you know what you’re fucking talking about. Well, unless you’re a black Harvard law professor who becomes president. In that case, every wingnut troll posting blog comments from their mother’s basement thinks he’s got more smarts. Nothing racist about that, huh, Bob?
@ 54
I’m supposed to respond to an anonymous comment by someone?
Dershowitz thought Florida should have gone to Gore.
That’s my response, Steve.
@53. Let me see if I got this Right.
Davis switched parties to Republican when he was rejected by black Democrats for being too conservative. Liberal allegedly (no link) called Davis a mistral show for joining the GOP. I took that as Davis is supporting the GOPs skewed view of minorities.
It’s crude, but I fail to see your point. You have posted much worse.
Who is this Steve?
No identify of the new pope yet, that should occur any minute.
@57 That probably should have been worded, “a black Harvard law graduate who became a law professor who became president.”
“As Davis did not adhere to Lib Sci’s expectations, Lib Sci felt free, among friends on HA, to use Davis’ skin color as a means of attack.”
Hell, I’ve done that to Puddy without mercy, who never lives up to my expectations, and we’re still friends at the end of the day. It’s not like Puddy is defenseless. He gives as good as he takes. You really need to come up with something better, Bob. You only come off as flailing away to deflect from your own very real racist attitudes.
@53 Manslaughter.
“a black Harvard law graduate who became a law professor who became president.”
I stand corrected on that point.
62 – Or Harvard-trained law professor…
Now watch..
@ 58
I was just thinking that if Intrade hadn’t just shut down
http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/1.....-shutdown/
that RR could regale us with tales of how much money he made correctly predicting the identity of the new pope.
“It’s crude”
It wasn’t Lib Sci’s best comment, that’s for sure. However, a few poorly chosen words do not equate to racism. But jumping to the conclusion that Martin deserved to die without hearing all of the evidence points to racism. Posting lies about Martin started by right-wing blogs as truth points to racism. Bob writing about militias (is there a militia in Michigan that isn’t right-wing extremist and very, very white? No.) being needed in Detroit to deal with violent blacks points to racism.
Geez, everything points to Bob being a racist. All based on his own comments. Even Bob’s attacks on Lib Sci for his minstrel show comment come off as those of a racist. So what’s one to conclude other than that Bob is, in fact, a racist?
@ 62, 63
Actually, he’ll be, what, 54 or so when he’s done? He’s gotta do something. Hawaii gets boring after awhile.
Harvard Law sounds about right. Call Steve prescient.
@ 65
But jumping to the conclusion that Martin deserved to die without hearing all of the evidence points to racism.
Whereas jumping to the conclusion that Zimmerman is guilty of murder without hearing all of the evidence isn’t racist? After all, a lot of you white guys want that Hispanic dude locked up for manslaughter @ 61 or worse. Couldn’t I say that points to racism were I of a mind to do so?
Gee, Steve. I thought it would only point to conclusion-jumping.
LOL!!! Once upon a time a hate-filled loon went on and on about Google overstepping their bounds in data collection..
And he very stupidly asked what was quoted above..
Well the FEC gave a “rat’s ass”…
http://www.nbcnews.com/technol.....fcc-742296
$25,000 fine.. A relative slap on the wrist.. A slap on the face if Google was run by right wingers but I digress..
Who else “gave a RAT’S ass about ‘payload'”?
Oh 37 States!
http://redtape.nbcnews.com/_ne.....tates?lite
37? More than a few were right wing States I’m sure…
@64 I didn’t make any money predicting the identity of the new pope. I didn’t play that trade. But I sold my Boeing stock this morning and made 33% after owning it 2 years. I probably took the money from someone who lost a short bet, because short covering is what drove it up the last few days. This doesn’t count dividends.
That pushes BUTTBOY’s cognitive abilities, though…
From the CNN live blog:
“It is taking longer for the new pope to appear after the white smoke this year than it did for Benedict XVI to appear after his election in 2005. But, an extra step has been added this time – the new pope has been allowed to pray alone in the Pauline Chapel before he appears on the balcony.”
Yeah, I’d pray too, if I had to deal with the Vatican’s scandals.
“And the new pope is: Argentina’s Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio.”
“I’m supposed to respond to an anonymous comment by someone?”
Why not? You’re the oone who posted an anonymous right-wing blogger’s lies about Martin for discussion. So go ahead, remark on how a wingnut believes that being a fucking Harvard law professor means something. You don’t see the irony? An education-hating, Harvard-hating, professor-hating wingnut desperately clinging to the words of a Harvard professor because they seem to justify the senseless killing of a black teen? Too pathetic for fucking words.
The new Pope is a Jesuit..
Ok in my book. Although I see he’s pretty conservative.
He’s also 76 years old.. Amazing!
Boring? Ask Sarah about Wasilla Alaska.
Pope Francis.
Why thanks Steve! Should I try to live up to your expectations?
1) What are they? I have never seen them in writing
2) I hope I don’t have to drink that wonderful elixir, Steve’s Stupid Solution
3) If I agree to them do I have to sign anything?
4) Will the DUMB Wabbit have to be there to witness my signature if I agree to sign
5) Will you get rid of Pluto boy? He is a nuisance
6) When can we go golfing? I need a good caddy
7) Can I meet your Republican woman? Gotta question her motives with you. Seems she’s failing
That’s enough for now!
Take care Steve. – Puddy
It seems Intrade has collapsed, and shut down this weekend. Apparently the CEO, who was killed on Mt. Everest in 2011, embezzled millions.
“Whereas jumping to the conclusion that Zimmerman is guilty of murder without hearing all of the evidence isn’t racist?”
Take it up with someone else. This is between you and me and I never claimed that Zimmerman was guilty. That’s because, unlike you, I didn’t jump to any conclusions. I only disputed your own conclusions which you evidently reached by readily accepting falsehoods spewn by right-wing hate sites which you repeated here and which obviously suited your own racist belief system.
@77(4) I’ll notarize it for 15 bucks.
Eh, Dr. Boner Bob. Zimmerman has admitted to the murder. The only question is if the state of Florida legally sanctions the murder.
Damn Steve, that’s the way your HA libtard leftist lemming friends operate around here. If someone misspeaks they jump down your throat.
Personally, I don’t excuse Lib da moron at all. He claims (no brags) he’s so superior to the masses and he “trains” his son the “right” way. So there is no way that ID10T gets the doubt benefit from Puddy!
Really? Got proof? MURDER?
Google is left wing if anything. That’s why they are stuffing their $billions in cash overseas. They don’t care about America like most left wing outfits. GE, Apple, Microsoft, etc… Need to see the link again libtard leftist lemmings?
Stay stupid Pluto boy. U R the gutter dweller here.
So far I haven’t been able to find the bookmaking odds on Bergoglio, but he seems to have been a very long shot, so there are some happy bettors out there right now.
@84 They’re stuffing cash overseas for the same reason hundreds of other corporations are: To avoid U.S. taxes. Real patriotic of them.
Republicans argue low business taxes = more jobs. Let’s test this empirically. Right now corporations are paying record low taxes, and making record high profits, so if the GOPers are right we should be drowning in jobs. But where are the jobs?
ObummerCare SILLY Wabbit!
“When can we go golfing? I need a good caddy”
It probably wouldn’t be the first time a white man caddied for a black, but it’d be a first for me as I’ve never caddied for anybody!
“Can I meet your Republican woman? Gotta question her motives with you. Seems she’s failing.”
Ah, my Dear Ms. Wingnut. She really is dealing with a failure. – failure to help her son get back on his feet. He became hooked on oxicontin through a dozen surgeries on his foot which was crushed in an accident at work when painter’s scaffolding collapsed. Not only is he hooked, but he can barely walk anymore. He’s a good young man but his future is very bleak right now. She’s gone through hell and a fortune trying to help him. I want to shoulder that burden for her for awhile by having him come live with me.
Take care, friend.
Pope Francis I, 76, was the son of an Italian railway worker. He was the runner-up in the last conclave, so he wasn’t such a long shot after all. He has only 1 lung, as one of his lungs was removed in his teens due to a childhood infection. He is a Jesuit and is considered a “compassionate conservative.”
Strange. The other night I was thinking about this conclave (even though I’m not Catholic, it affects the whole world), and I thought about St. Francis of Assisi — what if they had elected him pope? I wonder if the new pope took his papal name from that Francis. If he did this would suggest a papacy devoted to ministering to the world’s poor. Given Francis I’s age and health, though, this probably won’t be a real long papacy.
@ 85
So far I haven’t been able to find the bookmaking odds on Bergoglio, but he seems to have been a very long shot, so there are some happy bettors out there right now.
The longshot that a guy who was second on both ballots when Benedict was elected might be, RR?
I guess Hillary must be a longshot in 2016, too.
Is there anything factual about anything you spew?
@88 One of us is silly for sure.
The stock market isn’t real excited about the new pope. The Dow is up only 8 points. I guess Wall Street figures this guy isn’t going to be the patron saint of banksters. Hey, don’t get discouraged, guys, Jesus promised forgiveness to everybody — even you! All you have to do is accept it. Pretty slow day for stocks, I’m making only $900 today, but that still beats working for wages Republicans want to pay! Not only do they oppose raising the $7.25 federal minimum wage, they think even that is too high.
Sorry to read that Steve about your girlfriend’s son. Is he getting SSI or something similar?
When the French invaded and colonized Madagascar, they made the natives reimburse France for its expenses. When the Nazis murdered Jews in the ghettoes, they sometimes made the Judenrat collect money to reimburse Germany for the cost of the bullets. Today, Republicans want to keep this noble tradition alive by making workers pay their employers for the privilege of working.
@92 See #90. I beat you to it.
From CNN’s live blog:
“Choosing the name Francis is powerful and ground-breaking, CNN Vatican expert John Allen says. As already noted, this is the first Pope Francis. The name parallels one of the most venerated figures in the Roman Catholic Church, St. Francis of Assisi. Allen described the name of Pope Francis as ‘the most stunning’ choice and ‘precedent shattering.’ ‘There are cornerstone figures in Catholicism’ such as St. Francis, Allen said. Figures of such stature as St. Francis seem ‘irrepeatable – that there can be only one Francis,’ Allen added.”
Roger Rabbit Commentary: There’s little room for doubt about who the new pope is taking his papal name from, and what kind of pope he intends to be.
Yeah so is every other big outfit who can do the same..
Right wing Congress and Presidents lets them!
Stay fleeced, exploited and lied to by right wing bullshit grifters like Glenn Beck – to the end of your days.
“Damn Steve, that’s the way your HA libtard leftist lemming friends operate around here. If someone misspeaks they jump down your throat.”
It happened to me. Remember how in an unfortunate choice of words both GBS and I called Marvin a faggot? We said it and we had to live with it as a day wouldn’t go by without Marvin reminding us. It didn’t matter that we both saw Marvin as closeted wingnut and we were tweaking him. It was very, very wrong for us to go there.
I see Lib Sci’s comment as being quite tame to what GBS and I blurted out that one unfortunate day. Someone who is not bigoted using a bigoted word as GBS and I did to hurt another person, even a bigot, is something done in such bad taste as to be truly reprehensible. That’s how I felt about what I did. Considering that, what’s to be said of a person with an obvious racist bent like Bob concluding that an unarmed black teen walking home from a 7/11 store deserved to die and then repeated lies to make the case?
You mean that “entitlement” that ODS suffering right wing morons want to
cut“reform”?From Wikipedia (footnotes omitted):
“Abortion and euthanasia
“Cardinal Bergoglio has invited his clergy and laity to oppose both abortion and euthanasia.
“Homosexuality
“He has affirmed church teaching on homosexuality, though he teaches the importance of respecting individuals who are gay or lesbian. He strongly opposed legislation introduced in 2010 by the Argentine Government to allow same-sex marriage, calling it a ‘real and dire anthropological throwback’. In a letter to the monasteries of Buenos Aires, he wrote: ‘Let’s not be naive, we’re not talking about a simple political battle; it is a destructive pretension against the plan of God. We are not talking about a mere bill, but rather a machination of the Father of Lies that seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God.’ He has also insisted that adoption by gay and lesbian people is a form of discrimination against children. This position received a rebuke from Argentine president Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, who said the church’s tone was reminiscent of ‘medieval times and the Inquisition’.
“Class equality
“During a 48-hour public servant strike in Buenos Aires, Argentina, Bergoglio observed the differences between, ‘poor people who are persecuted for demanding work, and rich people who are applauded for fleeing from justice’
“Relations with the Argentine government
“On 15 April 2005, a human rights lawyer filed a criminal complaint against Bergoglio, as superior in the Society of Jesus of Argentina, accusing him of involvement in the kidnapping by the Navy in May 1976 (during the military dictatorship) of two Jesuit priests, whom he, as superior of the Society of Jesus of Argentina in 1976, had asked to leave their pastoral work following conflict within the Society over how to respond to the new military dictatorship, with some priests advocating a violent overthrow. The priests, Orlando Yorio and Francisco Jalics, were found alive five months later, drugged and seminude. Bergoglio’s spokesman flatly denied the allegations. Under Argentine law such accusations can be made on little evidence, to be investigated by a court.”
@100 There’s a difference between someone who does wrong, admits it, is remorseful, and changes his behavior; and someone who keeps on doing wrong.
Jeff Immelt is a right winger YOU MORON! Jack Welch is a right winger!
GE has funded right wing bullshit forever (see AEI) and turned Ronald Reagan into a right wing nut!
“Is he getting SSI or something similar?”
I don’t know if SS disability insurance is a part of this yet. Because it was a work related accident I do know they’ve been working with L&I. You can imagine how much it pains my Dear Ms. Wingnut to have to do that. I think L&I pays for the surgeries and she pays for most of the residential-type drug treatment programs. I couldn’t say what it’s added up to, only that there have been quite a few residential drug programs he’s been in, none of which have been effective, and that are costing her $30 – 50K a pop.
I just know that I’ve got to do more to help somehow, Puddy. I don’t see my being supportive of what they’re going through as being enough anymore.
Papal names they rejected.
Kim Jung
Sparkplug
Dweezel
Bob
Doggy Dog
Moonunit
Sicle
Then after this exchange they apparently decided on Francis
“How about Pope Thrakazog?”
“forest-smog?” “Thrakazog! Thrakazog! With a ‘K’! “
“Whatchamazog!” “Listen buddy, for the last time it’s…”
“Four ax in a bog?” “Thrakkorzog!”
“Ah, laxitive-log!” “No no no!”
“Lap lands a zog?” “No!”
“Two laplanders and a dog?” “Thrak”
“Sapsuckafrog!” “No no no!”
“…Susan?” “Oh, now you’re doing it on purpose; how juvenile!”
@107 When in doubt, name the pope after a saint, can’t go wrong with that. What we need next is a pope named after Joan of Arc who will, of course, be a woman …
I don’t see why a nun couldn’t be pope. They should let nuns become popes.
@100 – so I can use the word nigger them?
@108 what’s the new pipes position on pedofiles? Missionary or doggie?
I was sad to hear about the shootings in upstate New York. The first girl I kissed was from Herkimer, N.Y. She had long dark hair and legs that went on forever, and was three years older than I was. Only when I met my wife did I kiss a prettier girl.
@100, 109 – my apologize, I don’t have my glasses on and misread what you wrote. I thought you were trying to justify your and GBS’ use of the word faggot
What a tard… A Republican gives political money to James Clyburn? U really are stupid. Immelt is Obummer’s Job Czar. Some of his job czar policies in action.
U forgot that too? Whatatard Pluto boy is!
Who brought up Jack Welch u ID10T? Only U did!
Wow gleeeeman shows his true colors again. Apology sucks!
@100 but your friend Puffy probably approves of your use of the word faggot, so I’m not sure if you really got through to him.
114 You remind me of the story where the political correctness dictators got the guy fired for using the word “niggardly” in a sentence.
113 – LMAO!!! A child of Obama-despising right wing parents, JACK WELCH’s picked successor is a flaming liberal according to YOUR STUPID ASS!
Did he send jobs to China?? So did any greedhead who could get away with it YOU DUMBASS!
Job Czar??? You’re so stupid it’s pathetic. That ‘s only Obama’s obsession with cutting deals with the right.. He’s only been doing it since Harvard Law School!
So?? Right wing CEO’s give money all the time to Dems who do them favors both small and large..
It’s all part of the game ya moron!
Pluto boy… so pathetic…
Puddy thought you claimed your father was right-wing. Yet, turned out such a whack job leftist, U R HAs gutter dweller.
@119. Real nice puffy.
faggot:
a bundle of sticks or twigs, especially when bound together and used as fuel
a bundle of iron bars
contemptuous word for a woman or child
an extremely annoying, inconsiderate person most commonly associated with Harley riders
No gleeeeeeeeeman – U R the expelled water from a douchebag
Yes gleeeeeeman, the truth is nice cuz it’s da truth!
I bet Steve is really proud of you now, I’ll bet he’ll even caddy for you now
He was stupid. So was Warren Buffet’s.. Even my father-in-law’s parents were right wing. He turned out to be a hard-core union man..
Lots of people’s politics turn out differently than their parents.
It’s hilarious that’d you think Jack Welch would annoint a flaming liberal as his successor.
But anything to do with your object of hate, Barack Obama, switches off your non-existent brain matter. U R naught but a hater, a name-caller and a fool.
Who knows gleeeeeeeeeman, but everyone knows no one is proud of your racism.
A gay racist… is that the new standard for today’s gay man or lesbian?
Yeah his political money to libtards speaks volumes of his conservatism.
SO YOUR FATHER WAS STUPID. Well he married your mother or was that stupid? Seems stupid didn’t fall too far from the tree. You went left wrong stupider! He sired you or was that the milkman? Mail man? Pool boy? Do tell! See what happens when you go there, lunatic?
Gotta go. Work calls!
MORON!
126 – Unlike your ugly ass – no my dad wasn’t perfect..
I don’t believe my dad was smart enough to write something like this:
She comes home at 13 and says: “My clueless father, I lost my virginity today. God it hurt but he later ate my pussy and I got a male induced orgasm. Clueless daddy, it felt so good that I’m gonna fuck behind your back!” So if that’s the case cluelessASS how would you feel knowing your daughter has chosen to be a nympho slut? Oh… that’s right she’s the offspring of a librul, she can do anything she wants! Well in my case I told both sons, no premarital sex is off limits.
Any kid would proud of their dad writing something like that.
Pure brilliance! Next!
“I’ll bet he’ll even caddy for you now”
It’d probably be better that way. If Puddy caddied for me I’d be wanting him to wear a white jumpsuit and green cap like the black caddies at Augusta National used to wear. Heh. Just kidding you, Gman.
Poor Puddymoron..
So Jeff Immelt gave some money to Jim Clyburn and (gasp!) Hillary Clinton among some other Dems like Max Baucus (big deal there)..
He also gave money to George Dumbya Bush, Mitt Romney, John McSame and turtleman Mitch McConnell.
Any money given to Obama? None that I can see.
What a flaming pro-Obama liberal Jeff Immelt is..
What sad ODS sufferer Puddymoron is..
“my apologize”
No problem, but I rather get an apology from you for accusing me the other day of murdering gays in Africa. I took it that you were saying that because of some right-wing evangelical teachings and the stories about the subsequesnt killing of gays by villagers. But the only way you could get there, calling me a murderer, is if you were to consider all Christians to be murderers of gays, obviously blaming all for the actions of a few, and then somehow concluding that I’m a murderer too, simply for being charitable to a Christian charity. I didn’t consider that to be one of your better posts, Gman.
Hey,
has Kap’n Kornflake – Serial RENEGER acknowledged
PresidentLoser of the 2012 election and forever tagged with 47%, Mitt Rmoney’s birthday?I believe it is Rmoney’s 666th birthday, no?
Which was more hilarious today?
a) Erik son of Erikson tweeting:
b) The Republican Lt Governor to Florida’s Republican Governor of Medicare & Medicaid fraud resigning?
Lt. Gov. Jennifer Carroll resigns amid state, federal probe of non-profit veterans group
Another banner day for so called conservative Republican intellectualism.
Scott Prouty is a hero!
Puddystupid is a zero…
@132 Someone the other day was asking, where are the black Republican women politicians? It looked like we’d found one but now it appears that we’re a little too late. Now we’ll have to call her a former black Republican woman politician.
@130 I never accused you of Murdering gay Africans and never suggested you support the killing of gays. Did I ? Please refer me to the post. I believe what I said was that you are doing charity work for a country that punishes gay people with death for being gay – Uganda. I just don’t see how that is very religious like, to support a Ugandan charity. I think you could find a better charity to support, but do what you want. Throw your support to a charity in a country that kills gay people for being gay.
“Throw your support to a charity in a country that kills gay people for being gay.”
If you live America, Gman, you live in a country where gays are killed for being gay. Is it really possible that you hate all Americans except for maybe what, gays? Is your gay-dar so good that you can walk down a busy sidewak and kow who to condemn and who not? Do you sort out family and neighbors as to which ones to hate?
I will not condemn the people of an entire nation for the acts of a relative few. I’m certainly not going to condemn innocent children, some of whom will no doubt turn out to be gay. If that’s really your thing, Gman, wholesale condemnation, innocent and guilty alike, then this is where we part ways.
@136 are you aware of the Ugandan Bill that was passed by the government? It doesn’t sound as if you are. Nothing like living in America. Read the bill/law passed by Uganda and let me know if you still fell that way. I’d provide a link here but typing on an iPhone, and not that easy. Ugandan law calls for the death penalty and a you who doesn’t comply with the law. Nothing like being gay in America
And anyone who doesn’t comply with law…meant to type above.
@136 you yourself could be put to death for knowing someone like me if you didn’t turn me to authorities. Are you comparing America in the same way?
@136 I’m not condemning anyone in America this way, that is your interpretation. Read the Ugandan Law
@127,
You don’t ever realize you played the ID10T again for Puddy. You jump right on the next post Pluto boy with the crazed databaze.
Damn I AM GOOD at this.
Thanks for playing Pluto boy. Now for my next act…
Hmmm…? Gotta be subtle again! Well Pluto boy wouldn’t know a sldege hammer hit him betwixt da eyes with that granite neanderthal perfect vacuum cranial orifice.
Most of his humor would be lost on libtard leftist lemmings but what the hay… Puddy can try!
OK, Gman, you’re bothered by “endemic homophobia” not only in Uganda but in most sub-Saharan African countries as well. You’re aware, aren’t you, that there’s a bit of a history of “endemic homophobia” amongst African-American males as well? I imagine that you hate all of them too. People hate you. You hate them. That’s a lot of hate, Gman.
I don’t buy into homophobia, Gman, but I don’t buy into your approach either. You see, the problem is that you both indulge in hate. For that, I reject them and I reject you as well.
I will continue to try to help children in Uganda and I don’t give a fuck what you or anybody else thinks about it.
@143 – you didn’t bother to read the Ugandan Law. Waste your money. Why not donate to a North Korean or Iranian Orphanage too – don’t cut yourself short.
@143 I don’t hate anyone, that is where you are wrong. But keep pushing the hate, real religous of you.
zzzzZZZZzzzzzz… How many times have you played that stupid card? One day I’ll count it.
It’s the new/old “monomaniacal”..
Stay silly.. Most of the time it’s boooooring.. Occasionally it’s funny..
And keep running away from your idiocy in these threads..
Here’s the count:
% b cs -t puddymoron -c
+——-+
| count |
+——-+
| 37433 |
+——-+
1 row in set
LOL! It’ll be 50k by 2014..
“you didn’t bother to read the Ugandan Law”
You assume wrong. I’m done with you.
@147 – ewe how dismisive.
@147 – you sure you don’t want to use the Faggot word. Check with Puffy, maybe it would be appropriate in this case.
@ 149
Actually, the word Asshole would better fit you, Gmanboobs.
Awaiting your criticism of AIDS funding for sub-Saharan Africa because lives saved might end up being homophobic lives.
Should I be against charter school funding for poor black kids in DC because they’ll likely grow up to be Democrat voters? It’s the same fucked-up rationale as yours.
@150 – I think, for you, donating to Nazsi would best suit you.
I think you and Steve are missing the point. My point is similiar to how nations don’t give aid to countries with Human Rights Violations or like when celebraties wouldn’t go to South Africa during the days of Aparthied. I think murderig your own is a lot worse than worrying about if a black kid becomes a Demorat or Republican or Independent or Libertarian.
I guess you guys just don’t have any qualms with murdering Gay people – just carry on.
Golly gleeeeeeeeeeeman,
You pizzed off Steve. No more milk and cookies for you!
@154 – he’s all yours. Have fun blowing him.