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Drinking Liberally—Seattle

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Please join us tonight for an evening of politics and conversation over a pint at the Seattle Chapter of Drinking Liberally.

We meet every Tuesday at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. Starting time is 8:00pm. Some people show up earlier for Dinner.


Can’t make it to Seattle tonight? Check out one of the other DL meetings over the next week. Tonight the Tri-Cities and Vancouver, WA chapters meet, and Thursday night Drinking Liberally Bremerton meets.

With 227 chapters of Living Liberally, including thirteen in Washington state four in Oregon and three more in Idaho, chances are excellent there’s a chapter that meets near you.

Comments

  4. 4

    @3. Your analogy doesn’t work. I don’t need ID anymore to buy beer. I’m old enough that they don’t ask.

    How come you need to be identified to vote and influence the course of elections, but you don’t need to be identified to spend gobs of money to influence the course of elections? Why does money need to be special?

  6. 6

    Romney only trails Obummer by 5 in New Mexico and is gaining… Who knew The Politico would tell everyone this?

  8. 8

    Puddy, you consider that website to be credible in any manner? There is nothing in that post that reflects any objective analysis. Now I understand your estranged relationship to facts.

  9. 9

    5. Puddybud spews:
    U needed an ID to get into the DUMMOCRAPT convention. Now that was amazing.

    09/11/2012 AT 4:42 PM

    WOW…I didnt know that.

    Democrat Party own-goal.

  10. 10

    Proud Leftist, what is wrong? PROVE IT. Their analysis is front and center.

    There were 709 Likely Voters in the sample. The 351 votes for Obama is 49.5%. The 340 votes for Romney is 47.9%. In other words, a 50-48 match-up. That’s a lot different than the 52-46 reported in the headlines.

    Got proof otherwise?

  11. 11

    its pretty damn easy to get ID – laziness is no excuse.

    Heh. So the asshat is calling Cramer’s vet dad “lazy”.. No surprise. Look at all names he calls Roger Rabbit.

    And as usual, the asshat is butt ignorant.

    Hmmm.. If you’re disabled? If you’re poor?

    In Wisconsin a photo id is free! How convenient! As convenient as any experience in a DMV office as everybody knows.

    Not so convenient when the state is closing down motor vehicle offices..

    http://thinkprogress.org/justi.....oses-dmvs/

    The rich and the corporations need the tax breaks. The Republican need to suppress votes to stay in power.

    The more people vote, the more Republicans lose.

  12. 12

    The more people vote, the more Republicans lose.

    You have that wrong ylbuttspigot… The more the same people vote over and over sometimes in other states for the same election, the more Republicans lose. See the disgraced Maryland DUMMOCRAPT who had to leave her candidacy!

  13. 13

    Oh look..

    Pennsylvania’s “Voter Hall of Fame,” organized by the Department of State, is a list of 21,000 inductees who have voted in 50 consecutive general elections. Of the 5,923 of them who are currently registered voters, 1,384 of them either have no valid state ID or have an ID which expired before Nov. 6, 2011, which would make it invalid at the polls under the state’s voter ID law.

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi.....voters.php

    But it’s “easy” for them to get id. If they can’t for some reason it’s because they’re “lazy”..

    People who have voted in 50 consecutive general elections are “lazy”..

    Amazing the idiocy of the trolls.

  14. 14

    The more the same people vote over and over sometimes in other states for the same election, the more Republicans lose.

    I recall a certain Republican winning in Florida:

    Yet for 19 voters — 15 of them Republican — Duval County election officials counted both ballots. Officials said it was a mistake, the product of long hours and the intense pressure to count every possible ballot.

    One of the double voters, Nicholas Challen, 40, a senior chief petty officer in the Navy who cast his second vote from Jacksonville on Election Day, reacted with jubilation when told that both of his votes counted. He raised both arms as if he had just scored a touchdown and savored the two votes he had delivered to George W. Bush.

    ”Yes!” he said, beaming.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07.....038;src=pm

  16. 16

    Now this is interesting… Well, you know what’s interesting

    Reverend Al, is that this is sort of like an Arab Spring here in Chicago right now. – Stacy Davis Gates, Chicago Teachers Union Political Director.

    Puddy thought Rahmbo Deadfish Emanuel was Jewish. Very telling these union peeps!

  19. 19

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....ly-mean-it

    Tue Sep 11, 2012 at 09:36 AM PDT

    RedState.com to ban users quoting FACT CHECKERS (not snark, these idiots really mean it)
    by MinistryOfTruth

    Really? Doesn’t this sum up all of modern conservativism?
    When all the facts are against you, blame the fact-checkers. . .

    So check out this post by Conservative RedState.com front pager streiff. It is just pathetic.

    Quote a FactChecker Earn a Ban
    In the past we’ve had a policy of banning people who argue in bad faith. As Politifact, and the whole menagerie of “fact checking” organizations have demonstrated themselves to be slavishly attached to the Administration’s nether regions I will consider quoting any of them, in a non-ironic way, as being evidence of arguing in bad faith and worthy of a ban.

    What do you think?

    Love it. Just love it.

  21. 21

    Some of the news lately sucks for Romney. Other news really sucks. But this one here sucks beyond words.

    http://www.reuters.com/article.....5H20120911

    Sheryl Harris, a voluble 52-year-old with a Virginia drawl, voted twice for George W. Bush. Raised Baptist, she is convinced — despite all evidence to the contrary — that President Barack Obama, a practicing Christian, is Muslim.

    So in this year’s presidential election, will she support Mitt Romney? Not a chance.

    “Romney’s going to help the upper class,” said Harris, who earns $28,000 a year as activities director of a Lynchburg senior center. “He doesn’t know everyday people, except maybe the person who cleans his house.”

    She’ll vote for Obama, she said: “At least he wasn’t brought up filthy rich.”

    Nice way to start an article.

  23. 23

    US Egypt Embassy under siege! Obummer Sadministration is pathetic!

    Obummer is campaigning and decides not to meet Bibi Netanyahu! Campaigning in Ohio is more important that Middle East issues.

  25. 25

    That article is so damed funny!

    Several of those interviewed in Lynchburg were devotees of the TV series “Big Love” and “Sister Wives,” about polygamous Mormon families. They were unaware that the Mormon Church long ago renounced polygamy.

    “Mormons don’t believe like we believe,” said Dianna McCullough, a retired factory worker, as she tossed salad in a Tree of Life Ministries soup kitchen. “Like the wives — Romney’s probably got more than one.”

  26. 26

    when Richard Armitage switched parties…

    You da genius… you tell the world how smart you are rujax… so let us know!

    Be sure to provide a CREDIBLE link instead of those left wrong puke sites. Can you dig it SUCKA?

  35. 35

    The article also shows that some old habits are hard to break.

    “I don’t believe in free handouts,” said Robert McCanna, a former accountant. “Obama is pitting blacks against whites.”

    Retired truck driver Lyle Campbell interjected, “If I was black, I would get anything I want.”

  36. 36

    Still waiting for the rujax proof from a credible source… How long? Well we’ll see!

  39. 39

    There umpteen services to help the poor and disabled…keep barking up that tree, ylblazy…….

  43. 43

    @42

    Just think what the crazy muslims would do if tere was an HA Koran study thread each week

  44. 44

    Why is Obama skipping more than half of his daily intelligence meetings?

    I asked National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor about the findings, and whether there were any instances where the president attended the intelligence meeting that were not on his public schedule. Vietor did not dispute the numbers, but said the fact that the president, during a time of war, does not attend his daily intelligence meeting on a daily basis is “not particularly interesting or useful.” He says that the president reads his PDB every day, and he disagreed with the suggestion that there is any difference whatsoever between simply reading the briefing book and having an interactive discussion of its contents with top national security and intelligence officials where the president can probe assumptions and ask questions. “I actually don’t agree at all,” Vietor told me in an e-mail, “The president gets the information he needs from the intelligence community each day.”

  46. 46

    Puddy when does 11,000 jobs = 205 Why did you cut & run??

    @115 Puddy, I factchecked your claim. Do you have anything in writing or it is just another case of puddy bullshit? Trail King is in Mitchell (205) jobs.
    http://southdakota.jobs/

  47. 47

    Greg… 11,000 jobs in the whole state…

    Partial list…

    SIOUX FALLS, SD (937)
    Sioux Falls, SD (666)
    ABERDEEN, SD (470)
    RAPID CITY, SD (434)
    WATERTOWN, SD (264)
    HURON, SD (234)
    BROOKINGS, SD (213)
    PIERRE, SD (208)
    MITCHELL, SD (205)
    Rapid City, SD (205)
    SPEARFISH, SD (127)
    VERMILLION, SD (119)
    YANKTON, SD (114)
    Aberdeen, SD (113)
    MADISON, SD (94)
    Yankton, SD (85)
    Pierre, SD (70)
    DEADWOOD, SD (69)
    WINNER, SD (68)
    Mitchell, SD (64)
    HOT SPRINGS, SD (62)
    Watertown, SD (55)
    NORTH SIOUX CITY, SD (54)
    BELLE FOURCHE, SD (49)
    PINE RIDGE, SD (47)
    MOBRIDGE, SD (36)
    STURGIS, SD (35)
    Sioux falls, SD (34)
    CUSTER, SD (33)
    Huron, SD (33)
    Brookings, SD (32)
    EAGLE BUTTE, SD (28)
    SISSETON, SD (26)
    CANTON, SD (25)
    DAKOTA DUNES, SD (25)
    Vermillion, SD (24)
    WEBSTER, SD (24)
    ARLINGTON, SD (20)
    ELK POINT, SD (20)
    FORT PIERRE, SD (20)

    Stay stupid Greg!

  49. 49

    I just want to remind everyone that puddyloon is the silly asswipe who, in the preceding thread, blamed the outing of Valerie Plane on Democrats by labeling Richard Armitage a “DUMMOCRAPT”. You might want to take this into consideration
    when reading anything else posted by puddyloon.

  52. 52

    I notice how S.D. doesn’t have any jobs because Obama shut down all the energy development there …

  53. 53

    Roger SENILE Wabbit… Been saying Armitage is a DUMMOCRAPT for years. Ask ylbuttspigot, HA’s favoirte arschloch SENILE Wabbit… Puddy provided the link after link after link over the years.

    Where’s your evidence from a credible libtard MSM source SENILE Wabbit? Like the girl attackers were white skinheads? Oopsie… dey were blacks…

    Yeah, you are sooooooooo credible Roger SENILE Wabbit!

  54. 54

    @53 Your being a stupid motherfucker doesn’t make Armitage a Democrat. There’s no connection between the two.

  55. 55

    11,000 jobs in South Dakota you morons! None of you even knew this!

    Of course left wrong sites won’t tell you anything useful!

  56. 56

    stupid motherfucker

    Puddy agrees with your self-assessment Roger SENILE Wabbit… U R a stupid motherfucker! Had to be white skinheads in downtown Seattle. U said it. Still waiting for link! Provided previous proof here! Even leftist loon blogs called him a RINO because they have to “cover their bases”, and not admit he’s a DUMMOCRAPT!

  58. 58

    Meanwhile the latest US debt is $16,019,636,275,972 and climbing. Thank you Preznit Obummer!

  59. 59

    puddy, The housing situation in South Dakota is a disaster so if folks are planning on moving this is what to expect. Bring a tent and lots of soap and water.

    Butt butt butt you said Puddy didn’t know what he was talking about with those 11,000 SD job openings. Then the standard stupidness bearers (Lib da winks at DUMMOCRAPT racism schmuch, rujax, Roger SENILE Wabbit, etc.) chimed it. Apparently there are 11,000 jobs in SD waiting for peeps to take.

    greg, changes the topic, butt still stupid!

  61. 61

    There umpteen services

    LOL! No cites.. Most services have a hard enough time with their core missions and now they’re supposed to help disabled folks while they’re waiting in line in government offices to get id..

    Stupid much asshat???

    The purpose of the laws is to block people from voting so Republicans win.. In the case of PA, even people who have voted in every election for 50 years.

  62. 62

    http://southdakota.jobs/ Puddy when does 6,606 = 11,000 is it when John Roberts from Rupert Murdoch’s fraud news pulls a random number out of his ass and sells it to fools like you? Check out the link and see if you can find the total jobs blind puddy who can’t add.

  63. 63

    Maybe you all could take up a change collection at your drinking Liberal sessions to help pay dow the gigantic debt and deficits you are wracking up. You know each time Romney or Ryan’s name is mentioned you get to throw a buck in a jar.

    PS Moodys is going to downgrade the US from AAA to AA in January if it does not resolve it’s Debt issues.

    And Double PS Germany today said the US had no right telling it what part it should play in the European debt crisis, until the US resolves it’s own frickin debt issues.

  65. 65

    Been saying Armitage is a DUMMOCRAPT for years.

    And you’ve been wrong that entire time.

    Quelle surprise!!

  66. 66

    …answer the fucking questions ya chickenshit.

    Never gonna happen…puddle doesn’t roll like that.

    Why answer questions when they’re only going to make you look stoopid and deluded?

    I’m still waiting for puddle to defend her heroine Crazy Lady Mia Love and her insane word salad.

    I’m sure it’s not going to happen – he’d have to admit he was wrong – doesn’t have the guts for that.

  67. 67

    Meanwhile the latest US debt is $16,019,636,275,972 and climbing. Thank you Preznit Obummer!

    Quadrupled under Raygun.

    Doubled under Shrub.

    Puddle finds proportions and percents elusive.

    Math is hard!!

  68. 68

    He says that the president reads

    What a breath of fresh air with Obama!

    Imagine – reading!!

    I bet he’d have acted on “OBL determined to strike US” too!

  69. 69

    @53 “Been saying Armitage is a DUMMOCRAPT for years.”

    Could you date it more precisely so we know exactly when you went irreversibly insane? There’s a question on the involuntary commitment papers that asks that. Thanks.

  70. 70

    @56 “Had to be white skinheads in downtown Seattle. U said it.”

    I said no such thing. I said “my educated guess is” they were “skinheads” and I didn’t characterize them as white, black, brown, yellow, red, green, hazy blue, magenta, lavender, orange, purple with pink spots, or any other color. This is a perfect illustration of how you habitually distort everything beyond all recognition! You’re not only a stupid motherfucker, but a raving loon as well.

  74. 74

    @62 I noticed that too. The stupid motherfucker posted a bunch of cities with (presumably) the number of job openings for those cities, then says it’s a “partial list,” but doesn’t give a source. His link leads to a Fox article that says S.D. has 11,000 unfilled jobs that are mostly “skilled labor, engineers or professionals” (so forget it if you’re a laid-off teacher or bank teller) but no breakdown by city so there’s no telling where those numbers came from. And if you add up the stupid motherfucker’s “partial list” you get 5,398 not 11,000.

  76. 76

    Some poeple are beyond hope.

    http://www.publicpolicypolling.....H_9912.pdf

    Who do you think deserves more credit for the
    killing of Osama bin Laden: Barack Obama or
    Mitt Romney?

    Barack Obama…………………………63%
    Mitt Romney…………………………. 6%
    Not sure ……………………………31%

  77. 77

    Could you date it more precisely so we know exactly when you went irreversibly insane?

    It was WAAAAAY before April 27, 2005..

    As for Armitage..

    I see 3/11/2007 as the first time he characterized Armitage as a “friend of the left”..

    Remember though that he’s done the same for Alan Greenspan and Hank Paulson..

    A Fed Chairman appointed by St. Raygun and Bush mis-administration Treasury Secretary who was a big-time Bush bundler. Lefties.. Wow that’s some bat guano crazy nutso stuff that he’s trying to pass as thought.

  78. 78

    Joe Klein has been a journalist for over 40 years and has covered countless political campaigns. Here’s his appraisal of what we face.

    “It’s a closely held secret … but most journalists are more romantic than cynical and are also, by the way, real patriots. We … are freaked out by the paralysis in Washington and the truly diseased atmosphere …. We’re really rooting for the country to do better, and we’re afraid it won’t. The press depression reflects the mood of the country. As I’ve traveled … I’ve seen the zeitgeist shift from real fear … in 2010 to frustration … in 2011 to ecumenical disgust … in 2012.

    “There is an enormous question hovering over the presidential campaign: How do we get out of this place, past this paralysis? How do we break the fever? … I don’t know. …

    “The tension of the next few months will be reinforced by the encroaching reality of what is going to happen immediately after the election …. Absent a deal [on the fiscal cliff], most economists agree, we will have another recession … [and] the sense that our republic is crashing will become a global problem.

    “So the real question … is: Which of these candidates is more likely to make the deal? I have mixed feelings about that. President Obama’s policies and priorities seem more reasonable to me … than the policy mirage that Romney has presented so far, stained by the preposterous extremism of the Republican Party’s base. But Obama has had no luck … in luring Republicans toward compromise, and if he wins this election, the GOP backlash … is likely to make flexibility on taxing and spending more difficult. Romney may be in a better position to negotiate, for two reasons: First, he knows how to do it, having spent a lifetime as a businessman making deals … the second reason … is that he’ll have some Democrats across the table. They tend to value government more than Republicans do; they’re more willing to compromise to keep it operating. Of course, any real attempt to engage the Democrats would probably destroy Romney’s credibility with Rush Limbaugh and the other stupendous citizens in his party.

    “What a conundrum! … The frustration in all this … is that I believe there are real answers to the problems we face, from education to economic growth to health care. I’ve seen and reported on them. There should be real cause for optimism. But I don’t know how we get from here to there.”

    http://www.time.com/time/magaz.....-1,00.html

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: I know how to do it: get rid of Republicans. If we can’t vote them out of office, shoot ’em all! Heh, don’t take this seriously, it’s only a joke of the kind Republicans love to tell about us liberals. I’ll be satisfied if voters evict them and let sane people — the Democrats — run our country. That would fix most of what’s broken.

  79. 79

    Meanwhile …

    “Amid an increasingly dramatic presidential contest, the battles for control of the Senate and House rage far behind the scenes.

    Democrats have an outside shot at picking up the 25 seats they need to regain the majority in the House. … About 75 House races are competitive, while about a dozen Senate contests remain in play.

    “Republican expectations to easily nab Democrat Claire McCaskill’s Missouri Senate seat were curbed when their nominee … made his offensive remarks about rape and pregnancy. National Republicans pulled all their financing from Akin, who has declined to quit the race. While both parties have been surprised by polls that show Akin maintaining a close contest, the Democrats are deliberately holding back explosive TV ads pillorying his comments until the Sept. 25 deadline to replace him on the ballot passes. Once those commercials start, both sides believe Akin will be effectively eliminated, costing Republicans a Senate seat they were counting on ….

    “Democrats keep dreaming about regaining the Speaker’s gavel … and are eyeing clusters of close House races in California, Illinois, New York and Florida, with buzzy candidates such as a Hispanic former astronaut and a female African-American sheriff. What Democrats are banking on: a repeat of 2006, when they won far more seats than some experts had predicted.”

    http://www.time.com/time/magaz.....-1,00.html

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: I didn’t realize before reading this article that the House is in play. Apparently it is. Democrats will pick up the Maine Senate seat being vacated by Olympia Snowe; and keeping McCaskill’s Missouri seat now looks a sure thing. In Wisconsin, popular former governor Tommy Thompson is probably the favorite in his matchup with Rep. Tammy Baldwin, so the R’s have a shot at adding to their Senate count there. But the R’s need to flip 4 seats to take the Senate and the struggling Romney/Ryan ticket doesn’t appear to have any coattails to help with that task. I really haven’t studied the House map, but it has occurred to me that if voter disgust with GOP obstructionism and extremism runs deep enough, we could wake up to a surprising Democratic House majority on Nov. 7. That would be a political earthquake, but we saw one in 2006 and the ground is trembling again, so maybe it’s possible. I’m not claiming it’s gonna happen, just sayin’ it looks possible. The rationale for it is voters might decide gridlocked government isn’t the way to go this time around and a strong campaign by Obama could pull the downticket candidates into office with him.

  80. 80

    “if he wins this election, the GOP backlash … is likely to make flexibility on taxing and spending more difficult. Romney may be in a better position”

    I have a hard time believing that rewarding Republicans with the White House for their obstructionist tactics will somehow result in political compromise. I believe that all we’d see is a dismantling of our nation’s social saftey nets to give tax cuts to the filthy rich and Republicans starting yet another misbegotten war in the Middle-East. And if we object to their senseless war, they’ll call us traitors again, just like they did before.

  81. 81

    Obama re-elected, Democrats keep Senate, win the House … wow! I’d love to believe it can happen. To quote another president from another time, “Morning in America!”

  82. 82

    @79 I find myself struggling with Klein’s idea that people should vote for Romney because the Republican crazies will be even more bitterly intractable if he loses. I’m thinking maybe a re-elected Obama imposing a security zone around Capitol Hill with psychiatrists conducting sanity checks of anyone trying to get in is a better option.

  83. 83

    Joe Klein = Joke Line

    More inside the beltway truthiness.

    Give the Presidency to the Republicans because they’ve been the party of obstinance and obstruction? Because a Republican president in that situation will be solicitous and compromising?

    Like Bush/Rove were?

    You’ve got to be absolutely fucking kidding me.

  84. 84

    @82 I’m not worried about Klein changing anyone’s vote. According to our wingnut friends, anybody who reads Time is already a communist. Which means, of course, they’ll vote for the Kenya-born, Indonesian-educated, Black Muslim communist.

  86. 86

    It appears Colorado’s Republican SoS actually found a non-citizen on the state’s voter registration rolls:

    “It was a guy with a work visa. He didn’t even know he was registered to vote. Somehow we think it was a clerical mistake at the Department of Motor Vehicles when he got his driver’s license.”

    http://thinkprogress.org/tag/v.....?mobile=nc

  87. 87

    Meanwhile in Texas …

    “Nine thousand citizens in Harris County … recently received letters warning them their voter registrations may be cancelled because they might be dead. If they were in fact still alive, these voters had 30 days to respond or be purged from the rolls.

    “But on Monday, Harris County … voter registrar Don Sumners announced he would not purge any of the contested names from the voter roll, at least until after the election.

    “After receiving about 300 complaints from the allegedly deceased voters, Sumner decided the list of names compiled by the Texas Secretary of State was too unreliable.

    “‘We’re not even going to process any of the cancellations until after the election. Because we’ve gotten such a response from people that say that they are still alive,’ he said.”

    http://thinkprogress.org/tag/v.....?mobile=nc

  88. 88

    And in Florida …

    “Months after Florida first began its purge of the state’s voter rolls, officials now have something to show for it: a single prosecutable case of voter fraud by an immigrant from Canada. Josef Sever, 52, is the only person found to have been falsely presenting himself as a US citizen in Florida, and voted in the last two presidential elections despite being a Canadian citizen.”

    http://thinkprogress.org/tag/v.....?mobile=nc

  89. 89

    said “my educated guess is” they were “skinheads”

    The only skinheads are white skinheads Roger SENILE Wabbit.

  90. 90

    Puddy will now use the adjective and pronoun from Roger SENILE Wabbit’s previous post.

    The stupid motherfucker posted a bunch of cities with (presumably) the number of job openings for those cities, then says it’s a “partial list,” but doesn’t give a source.

    The only “stupid motherfucker” is you Roger SENILE Wabbit… Since you can’t pay attention to thread entries in a blog let Puddy help you… Greg posted the source link you “Roger SENILE stupid motherfucker Wabbit” on SD jobs. I clicked the link and displayed a partial link “Roger SENILE stupid motherfucker Wabbit”.

    Man, as the election gets closer and the slobbering libtard msm poll tricks get exposed, libtards bear their “stupid motherfucker” fangs.

  91. 91

    Still using Roger’s adjective and pronoun

    And if you add up the stupid motherfucker’s “partial list” you get 5,398 not 11,000.

    The Governor claimed 11,000 jobs “Roger SENILE stupid motherfucker Wabbit”!

    Senility… it definitely has appeared in the Wabbit.

  92. 92

    I see 3/11/2007 as the first time he characterized Armitage as a “friend of the left”..

    Hey ylbuttspigot did Puddy’s bidding. Keep looking…

    Using Roger’s adjective and pronoun, “Roger SENILE stupid motherfucker Wabbit”, still waiting for your link to demonstrate Richard Armitage is a Republican. You brag about your intelligence. Well prove it. Lib da winks at DUMMOCRAPT racism hasn’t helped. He’s natually stupid and has been displaying that trait for years. rujax… well an amoeba inhabits his neanderthal cranial orifice!

    Remember “Roger SENILE stupid motherfucker Wabbit”, the link must be from a credible source, not some left wrong libtard site. Maybe that’s why all the ad hominem attacks and subterfuge. You can’t prove otherwise so attack Puddy. Anyone with a brain sees the ad hominem attacks is your only recourse.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  93. 93

    With all this poll watching this year… it will be difficult for DUMMOCRAPTS to pull off what that Maryland lady did voting multiple times or the NAACP lady voting for four dead people. That’s a good thing. Voting early and often and in multiple states was invented by DUMMOCRAPTS.

  94. 94

    Now this is priceless… DNC gives tribute to US Vets and displays Russian Navy warships.

    Naval experts concluded the background was a photo composite of Russian ships that were overflown by what appear to be U.S. trainer jets. It remains unclear how or why the Democratic Party used what’s believed to be images of the Russian Black Sea Fleet at their convention.

    DUMMOCRAPTS can’t even get the navy correct!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  95. 95

    Obama can’t visit with Netanyahu but has time to visit David Letterman!

    Let’s see what the US Jewish voter sez in November!

  96. 96

    Sigh, SpuddyPud @ 88 (interesting juxtaposition there)

    WRONG AGAIN.

    You try so hard to appear relevant. You really are just a pathetic, ignorant jackass Spudds. I know a few of these guys. They hang out in the clubs I used to go to when I was in Seattle. They’re also programmers at Steam, Micro$oft and one of them is a fitter/machinist at the Lake Union Shipyard. He also bounces part-time at a club in Ranier Beach. Not someone you fuck with.

    And your South Dakota jobs post was hysterically obvious in the lie. Those jobs, nowhere near the 11,000 figure you cite, are mostly temporary and short term and require one to bring their own house with them, as rents in the area are now hitting the $5000/month for a one bedroom apartment. Services are non-existent. That means grocery stores, gas stations, doctors offices, auto repair etc. The only new ancillary businesses opening up there are saloons.

    Hmm, there’s a thought.

    You stupid, ignorant misguided fuck. Your blather and bullshit are probably welcome over at FreeRepublic but here, its just blather and bullshit. Simply because everyone is smarter than you.

  98. 98

    61. YLB spews:

    Stupid much asshat???

    09/11/2012 AT 8:11 PM

    there he goes again – they guy with barely two nickels to rub together calling other people “stupid”…lol

  100. 100

    93. Puddybud spews:
    Now this is priceless… DNC gives tribute to US Vets and displays Russian Navy warships.
    Naval experts concluded the background was a photo composite of Russian ships that were overflown by what appear to be U.S. trainer jets. It remains unclear how or why the Democratic Party used what’s believed to be images of the Russian Black Sea Fleet at their convention.
    DUMMOCRAPTS can’t even get the navy correct!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    09/12/2012 AT 4:54 AM

    the DNC is full of the biggest f-ing drooler idiots on the planet.

  101. 101

    Wow. Just wow.

    Driven by desperation and a complete lack of both principles and campaign competence, Romney launches incoherent, crass and ineffective attack on Obama Admin for Egypt/Libya events.

    You know, the violent attacks incited by right-wing Christianist Terry Jones.

    (I’m sure puddle will be along any minute to tell us that he is a “DUMMOCRAPT”)

    NBC:

    …one of the most over-the-top and (it turns out) incorrect attacks of the general-election campaign…Yet after learning every piece of new information about those attacks, the Romney statement looks worse and worse — and simply off-key…

    You’d expect the Sarah Palins of the world to quickly pounce on something like this, and she predictably did. But a presidential nominee running for the highest office in the land? After the facts have come out, last night’s Romney statement only feeds the narrative that his campaign is desperate.

    Tweets from Romney event:

    OMG, Romney is not only lying about the nature of Cairo Embassy statement – but is criticizing embassy officials that were under attack
    — @speechboy71 via Twitter for Mac

    Romney simultaneously saying Obama admin wrong and that it had same reaction as he did.
    — @ThePlumLineGS via TweetDeck

    OMG what a FAIL.

  102. 102

    Always keeping it classy.

    Reince Priebus

    @Reince

    Obama sympathizes with attackers in Egypt. Sad and pathetic.

    Had this occurred in 2002, or thereabouts, and Democrats were critical of a Republican president, we’d have heard all about treason and patriotism and ‘watching what we say’.

    Republicans aren’t too big on consistency, or decency.

  103. 103

    I’m with Atrios:

    Making Stuff Up
    We’ll never really solve the ‘idiots or liars’ eternal question, but the speed at which bullshit travels through wingnuttia, from the peanut gallery up to their presidential candidate, is always impressive.

  104. 104

    Check out this picture.

    Smirk. He’s smirking like that amoral entitled prick that he is.

    Smirking while trying to plant a shiv in the President’s back in the midst of an international crisis. I’d expect nothing less from Mitt, but it’s still breathtaking to see so vividly and without camouflage.

    Prick.

  105. 105

    Romney has no honor.

    Josh Mashall:

    So while American diplomats were dying in the field, Romney pops up with an egregious attempt to politicize the deaths with a flat out lie.

    Behind the curtains a more chaotic and rash picture emerges.

    Nor does he appear competent. He does appear desperate, however.

    Bear in mind, this was all happening while attacks on US personnel abroad were ongoing.

    The campaign also authorized Romney’s top foreign policy advisor to give a blistering interview attacking the president while the attacks were continuing.

    Despicable. Incompetent. Amoral.

  106. 106

    Ungrateful libyans….fuck em, let em starve and butcher each other…no more US help.

  107. 107

    About the maker of the movie that God-loving Muslims in Egypt and Libya found so offensive:

    Bacile, a California real estate developer who identifies himself as an Israeli Jew, said he believes the movie will help his native land by exposing Islam’s flaws to the world.

    “Islam is a cancer, period,” he said repeatedly, his solemn voice thickly accented.

    And the promoter:

    Morris Sadek, an Egyptian-born Christian in the United States known for his anti-Islam views, told the AP from Washington that he was promoting the video on his website and on certain TV stations, which he did not identify.

    A quote of Sadek:

    “Israel is the liberation of the West Bank and Gaza, the Palestinians and the liberation of Jerusalem from the Arab invaders, to be the united capital of the State of Israel Hebrew!”

    Nothing like a little fratricidal hatred between the god-believers.

    Anyone else smell Netanyahu in all this? Do you think he coordinated with his friend Romney? This wouldn’t be the first time that a Republican challenger conspired with a foreign entity to undermine the sitting President.

  108. 108

    Convenient way to stoke a crisis AND get Osama bin Laden’s death off the front pages.

  109. 109

    Consider the case of Scott Van Duzer, originally a New York native and now the owner of Big Apple Pizza and Pasta restaurant in Florida. A registered Republican, Van Duzer is 46 years old, six feet three inches tall, and works out regularly. He also runs a foundation he established to collect blood for the ill, earning him several commendations.

    Van Duzer voted for Obama in 2008 because he like the “hope and change message”. Of course, this is just the type of dissafected Republicans whom party officials are targeting in 2012 and trying to bring them “back into the fold” by claiming that President Obama hasn’t fulfilled his promises made in 2008.

    But on Sunday, the President was doing a campaign bus swing through Florida, and made a surprise stop at Van Duzer’s restaurant. The Secret Service swept through first, collecting every sharp object which might be used as a weapon. Then the President entered, took one look at Van Duzer’s biceps, and said “Look at those guns!” After a momentary panic among the Secret Service subsided, the President ordered several pizzas for the campaign staff on the bus, and the two talked. Van Duzer, overcome with the moment, hugged the President, lifting him off the ground just as photographers snapped the picture.

    Van Duzer commented that he was impressed with the President’s “message of change”, and his “genuine personality”. “I saw it first hand,” Van Duzer said of the president’s personality. “It didn’t feel like it was just another stop on his tour.” He said he would vote for Obama again in 2012.

    The President spent some $200 on Pizzas and left a 30% tip for the wait staff.

    But what happened afterwards says a lot about how Republicans really treat their own. Van Duzer’s restaurant received hundreds of Yelp reviews, almost all of them from outside the state. Some claimed to have eaten there and that the pizza and service was terrible, and the restaurant was unclean. Others simply tried to organize a boycot of the restaurant, saying that they would never patronize the restaurant if the owner supported the President. Some simply renewed the false claims that the President was a secret Muslim and a Kenyan.

    What a bunch of bunch of mean-spirited idiots.

  111. 111

    @108, 109
    Yup, saw that.
    Like going after the 12-year-old kid who spoke out about SCHP – Graeme Frost.

    These people have no character, no decency.

  112. 112

    # 106: Yep, the moment I heard of the attacks in Cairo and Libya, I smelled Karl Rove or his protoges.

    Just when the Obama administration is polling at higher numbers on foreign policy than Romney, a video surfaces which is clearly calculated to encite Muslim outrage?

    I used to be very suspicious of conspiracy claims, but I’ve learned over the years that whatever conspiracy claims you hear about Republicans, it’s usually just the tip of the iceberg. The problem is that the proof usually arrives too late. We’ve gotten better at investigating and publicizing Republican culpability, and now it generally takes only years, rather than decades, for it to become apparant. But it still takes too long.

  113. 113

    @111
    I don’t think we’ve plumbed the depths that either Netanyahu or Romney will sink to get what they want.

    The fortunate thing is, this seems to be TOTALLY blowing up in Mitt’s face.

  114. 114

    At least the United States government apologized for the anti-Islamic film:

    U.S. Embassy Condemns Religious Incitement
    September 11, 2012

    The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.

    http://egypt.usembassy.gov/pr091112.html

  115. 115

    Wow the leftist nutjobs are trying to defend Obama’s failed foreign policy by conjuring up a Karl Rove conspiracy theory. Nutjobs.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....-in-libya/

    Pandering to Islamic terrorists ain’t working. Look at all the deaths in Iraq & Afghanistan.
    Obama seems to think he can sweet talk these terrorists by not calling them…terrorists.

  116. 116

    # 112: And, of course, the whole incident flaring up on Sept. 11th is pretty convenient for someone trying to flame anti-muslim passions here in the U.S.

    # 114: The fact that Americans were killed is tragic. Unfortunately, for the Republicans who consider Americans pawns in their play for power, the fact that Americans might be killed, or be cut off from unemployment benefits right before Christmas, or were unemployed in the first place, is just “collateral damage”.

    The watchword on this issue, and the title of future books about it, should be “…and cooler heads prevailed”.

  117. 117

    @114
    Why don’t you take your dog and pony show somewhere where there’s an audience who might believe that crap.

    Alabama?

    Sound Politics?

    Transparent, poorly crafted apologies for Romney’s incompetence will not get you anything here but derision.

    BTW your guy Mitt’s behavior over the past 24-hours is being compared to McCain’s campaign suspension. Sucks to be you.

  118. 118

    9:20 am and not a single post from ‘bob’

    At least he has the sense to keep his head down and let the third-string (@114) take the fire.

    Telling. Very telling.

  119. 119

    @113

    I’d like any of our resident trolls to explain what they find offensive and wrong, with specifics, with that statement.

    Show your work.

  120. 120

    Regarding Bacile, the ‘man’ who made the incendiary film:

    Run your mouth, let other people do the dying. Not much different from what Thiessen, Senor, Kristol, and company everyday, so I guess we shouldn’t be surprised.

    Sounds about right.

  121. 121

    @1 I’ve never seen anyone “drink heavily” at DL, but I’ve often seen you make shit up.

  122. 122

    @88 “white skinheads”

    Those are your words, not mine, so get your attributions straight.

  123. 123

    @91 “still waiting for your link to demonstrate Richard Armitage is a Republican”

    This statement, by itself, qualifies you as deserving of the “stupid” moniker. As for the “motherfucker” part, well, that’s private information between you and your mom!

  124. 124

    Liberal Scientist @ 118

    If a mob of religious zealots in Egypt had attacked our embassy in protest of a gay rights parade in the USA, or in protest of abortion being legal in this country, would it have been equally appropriate for the US embassy to apologize for gay rights and abortions being legal (and constitutionally protected) in America?

  126. 126

    @95 It would be interesting to see what reception he’d get at Freep the first time they saw him in the flesh.

  128. 128

    @113 “Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy.”

    There are three things listed here that Republicans are against: Respect, others’ religious beliefs, and democracy. So far they haven’t attacked “is”, “a”, or “of”, but that’s coming.

  129. 129

    @114 Explain how bombing Ghadafi was “pandering to Islamic terrorists.” Show your work and cite sources.

  130. 130

    @117 “9:20 am and not a single post from ‘bob’”

    Maybe he got fired in the latest round of budget-cutting, or got outsourced.

  131. 131

    Sarah Palin sez, “We already know that President Obama likes to ‘speak softly’ to our enemies. If he doesn’t have a ‘big stick’ to carry, maybe it’s time for him to grow one.”

    LMFAO!!

  133. 133

    @123 I’m having trouble following your analogy, Richard. The riots in Cairo and Benghazi weren’t provoked by American cultural practices or even the treatment of Muslims in the United States — that doesn’t seem to rouse the Muslim world. On the other hand, if you went to their countries and did those things, you’d be asking for trouble and probably would find it. The Bacile video is in the latter category. It was calculated to provoke and, not surprisingly, it provoked. When you go to someone else’s neighborhood and poop on their lawn most folks would say you’re trying to start trouble. That’s what these guys did, for whatever reason.

  135. 135

    @123, 132

    I hadn’t gotten around to it, but yes – same question as Roger – what’s your point?

  136. 136

    NBC Calls Romney’s ‘Palin’-Like Reaction ‘Over The Top’

    “After saying he was ‘outraged’ by these attacks and the death of an American consulate worker, Romney said, ‘It’s disgraceful that the Obama administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.’

    “Yet after learning every piece of new information about those attacks, the Romney statement looks worse and worse — and simply off-key.

    “First, Romney was referring to a statement that the U.S. embassy in Egypt issued condemning the ‘efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims.’ But that embassy statement, which the White House has distanced itself from, was in reference to an anti-Islam movie and anti-Islam pastor Terry Jones, and it came out BEFORE the embassy attacks began.

    “Then this morning, we learned that the U.S. ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens, and others died in one of the attacks.

    “Bottom line: This was news-cycle campaigning by the Romney campaign gone awry. Why didn’t the Romney campaign wait until it had all the facts? On his overseas trip in the summer, Romney was so careful not to criticize Obama while on foreign soil. But how much time do you give an administration to work through a diplomatic and international crisis before trying to score immediate political points?

    “You’d expect the Sarah Palins of the world to quickly pounce on something like this, and she predictably did. But a presidential nominee running for the highest office in the land?

    “After the facts have come out, last night’s Romney statement only feeds the narrative that his campaign is desperate. …”

    http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_.....id=twitter

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: This is very consistent with the Mitt Romney we’ve seen throughout the campaign. He’s a flip-flopping panderer who will say whatever he thinks the GOP base wants to hear. He’s shown a ready willingness to feed GOP mobs the “red meat” rhetoric they crave, no matter how inaccurate or irresponsible it is. And he keeps throwing stuff at the wall hoping to find something that will stick. His ridiculous, smirking statement in the wake of the Libyan embassy murders is merely the latest iteration of this campaign tactic. And, one might add, its mean-spirited nature, far from being an aberration, is a manifestation of traits that lie at the very core of Mitt Romney’s character and personality.

  137. 137

    @ 135

    But how much time do you give an administration to work through a diplomatic and international crisis before trying to score immediate political points?

    How much time do you sit and say nothing until you are permitted by the MSM to think you have ‘all the facts’?

    When a statement made on behalf of the federal government is as egregious as the one issued by the Cairo embassy, Romney’s just supposed to do nothing until Obama gets his story straight?

    Had Romney said nothing, the news would have been full of stories about Romney’s uncaring nature and his trepidation insofar as foreign policy issues are concerned.

    The Cairo embassy reflects State, and the White House. Given the fragile current state of the Middle East, there couldn’t have been some sort of coordinated message planned in advance and approved at higher levels? Did the 9/11 anniversary sneak up on Team Obama?

  138. 138

    BTW…all ‘bob’ could muster this morning was a single snide comment over on the People for Puget Sound thread.

    Not a single word on Romeny’s shameful behavior of the past 24 hours.

  140. 140

    @136 “When a statement made on behalf of the federal government is as egregious as the one issued by the Cairo embassy”

    You’re either full of shit or stupid beyond belief. The Cairo embassy personnal who issued that statement were trying to defuse a situation incited by a couple of attention-seeking incendiary troublemakers. They were very reserved and diplomatic in the language they chose, which is what diplomats are paid to do. Why do asswipes like you always defend the inciters instead of the peacemakers? That says worlds about what kind of person you are.

  141. 141

    @136 “Given the fragile current state of the Middle East” the last thing America needs is for rightwing hotheads to incite violence in that part of the world by publicly attacking their religion. Now you’re attacking the Obama administration and its overseas diplomats for trying to calm the situation created by those rightwing hotheads. It appears you believe starting a war for no damn reason is the better option here. The main issue with this is Romney jumping on board with that idiocy. He’s asking me to vote for him. No thanks, I’m not a buyer of those goods.

  142. 142

    @135 “as egregious as the one issued by the Cairo embassy”

    “9/11”

    That’s truly pathetic of you. After royally fucking up his foreign excursion of a few weeks ago, Romney was so desperate to wipe that from memory that he royally fucked up again. It’s as simple as that and your spin is disgusting.

  143. 143

    @ 141

    What’s my spin, Doctor Steve?

    A year ago Libya’s leader was sodomized and then shot in the head. A year ago Egypt’s leader was deposed, rather forcefully, and a fair amount of violent activity occurred in the square in (I think) Cairo – Lara Logan can vouch for that.

    On the anniversary of 9/11, the State Department couldn’t have thought to make sure that any public messages put out by its Middle East embassies reflect actual US sentiment and policy?

    Really? I point that out and you call it spin?

    I would have called it, um, foresight, had the US thought to coordinate its message.

  144. 144

    @ 139

    The Cairo embassy personnal who issued that statement were trying to defuse a situation incited by a couple of attention-seeking incendiary troublemakers. They were very reserved and diplomatic in the language they chose, which is what diplomats are paid to do.

    RR, if that’s the case then why did the White House 1) disavow their statement and 2) delete the statement?

    It’s possible to be reserved, diplomatic, and grossly incorrect all at the same time.

  146. 146

    “A year ago Libya’s leader was sodomized and then shot in the head. A year ago Egypt’s leader was deposed, rather forcefully, and a fair amount of violent activity occurred in the square in (I think) Cairo –”

    And Mitt Romney took no position whatsoever. No, you don’t think, you disgusting fool.

    This is how it’s done, Bob.

    “Yesterday we commemorated the anniversary of the attacks of September the 11th, and today we are reminded that brave Americans serve us every day at the risk of their own lives,” Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said in a statement. “We honor the Americans we lost in Libya and we will stand united in our response.”

    Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) announced plans for a moment of silence in the House and ordered flags at half staff.

    “We mourn for the families of our countrymen in Benghazi, and condemn this horrific attack,” he said in a statement. “Eleven years after September 11, this is a jolting reminder that freedom remains under siege by forces around the globe who relish violence over free expression, and terror over democracy — and that America and free people everywhere must remain vigilant in defense of our liberties.”

    Instead of acting like a damned fool, Bob, act like an American.

  147. 147

    @143 Would you have preferred a statement like this?

    “Fuck you, Islamist assholes! Muhammed sucks goat dicks! Your mother is a whore and your sister is your daughter! And by the way, we’re taking your oil!”

  149. 149

    @143 “Grossly incorrect.” That’s a big phrase for someone of such small thoughts. Like giving a 12-gauge as a birthday present to a 6-year-old, it evokes a sense that one should wait for people to grow up before giving them grown-up toys.

  150. 150

    This how it’s done. Compared to these men, Romney has descended to HA troll behaviour.

    A joint statement from three of the Senate’s most prominent foreign policy hawks, Sens. John McCain (R-AZ), Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Joe Lieberman (I-CT), took a similarly measured response that acknowledged that the full story of what happened on Tuesday had not yet emerged.

    “There is still much we do not know about what happened in Benghazi yesterday,” the statement read. “What is clear, however, is that the attackers must be apprehended and punished. We appreciate that senior Libyan leaders have condemned these cowardly attacks, and we now look to the Libyan government to ensure that the perpetrators are swiftly brought to justice, and that U.S. diplomats are protected. We have confidence that our own government will provide all necessary assistance to this end.”

    McCain said later on Twitter that Clinton’s statement Wednesday morning condemning the attack, was “excellent and moving.” Graham, while critical of Obama’s broader foreign policy on FOX News Wednesday, reiterated that he sided with Clinton’s efforts to transition the government to democracy.

    “Under Gaddafi it was the policy of the government to kill Americans,” he said. “This is an outrage and I think Hillary is right.”

  154. 154

    @ 145

    Doctor Steve, this was Romney’s statement:

    ‏@MittRomney
    On this most somber day, America is united under God in its quest for peace and freedom at home and across the world.

    And from his website:

    Eleven years ago, evil descended upon our country, taking thousands of lives in an unspeakable attack against innocents. America will never forget those who perished. America will never stop caring for the loved ones they left behind. And America shall remain ever vigilant against those who would do us harm. Today we again extend our most profound gratitude to our brave troops who have gone into battle, some never to return, so that we may live in peace. On this most somber day, those who would attack us should know that we are united, one nation under God, in our determination to stop them and to stand tall for peace and freedom at home and across the world.

  155. 155

    There comes a time when one should politics aside and act like an American. Anyone can see that McCain, McConnell, Boehner, and Graham understand this to be true. Others, like Romney and Bob, show their true colors and see it as a time to try to score cheap political points that serve only their own personal interests. That they fail miserably and still won’t STFU is really damned disgusting.

  156. 156

    At the present time, RealClearPolitics awards Romney only 2 of the tossup states — North Carolina and Virginia — which puts Obama well over 300 electoral votes.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.c.....s_ups.html

    And in RCP’s aggregation of popular-vote polls, Obama has moved from being tied with Romney just a few days ago to a +3.4% lead.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/

    Clearly, things are not going Romney’s way. And he’s not much of a passer; all his Hail Marys are either underthrown, intercepted, or thrown to the bench. With the clock running down, his best hope is that a lightning strike destroys the scoreboard.

  157. 157

    @153 This also was Romney’s statement:

    “It’s disgraceful that the Obama administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.”

    In fact, that was his first statement, then he realized he’d spasmed again and put his speechwriters to work cleaning up his bowel accident.

  160. 160

    When a statement made on behalf of the federal government is as egregious as the one issued by the Cairo embassy, Romney’s just supposed to do nothing until Obama gets his story straight?

    What unbelievable bullshit.

    As I’ve asked, what precisely is wrong with the statement – it’s on this thread above, on richard pope’s comment?

    Moreover, statements from embassies, I believe, are by law necessarily directed toward the population of the respective country.

  161. 161

    @153 How pathetic. You can put that where the sun don’t shine, Bob.

    (CNN) – Mitt Romney blasted the Obama administration on Wednesday for a statement he said was made by the U.S. Embassy in Egypt after its security was breached, calling it “akin to an apology” that was “disgraceful” and adding that the president assumes responsibility for all communications from U.S. diplomats.

    Your man fucked up, Bob. He did it trying to score cheap political points at the wrong damned time. I can see that coming from someone like you, but this man is supposed to be a little bit better than that. It is now revealed that he isn’t.

  163. 163

    Did anyone catch that Obama wouldn’t speak to the press this morning?

    Romney, OTOH, DID have a press conference.

    And they were ready for him:

    http://www.therightscoop.com/e.....e-covered/

    Before Romney issued his statement today, an open mic capture the press coordinating questions to ask Romney, with one saying “no matter who he calls on we’re covered on the one question”.

    If it looks like the media is reporting a similar narrative about Romney’s inappropriate criticism, maybe it’s because they decided to revert to Journolist-style behavior.

    Watch the video of the presser. Romney ducked nothing. Contrast that with Obama’s aversion of direct press contact. What’s it been, one press conference since March? Yeah, that’s leadership.

  164. 164

    “Did anyone catch that Obama wouldn’t speak to the press this morning?”

    So what? Did you catch this, Bob? Compare this to Boehner, McConnell and the others. Actually, there is no comparison.

    “I’m outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi. It’s disgraceful that the Obama administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks,” Romney said.

  165. 165

    @162 “Did anyone catch that Obama wouldn’t speak to the press this morning?”

    Maybe because, unlike Romney, he has a job?

  166. 166

    @163 “Romney’s inappropriate criticism”

    Well, you finally one right for a change. One more and you’ll be keeping up with a stopped clock. For one day of your life, anyway.

  167. 167

    calling other people “stupid”

    Yes calling someone “lazy” who has a 50 year unbroken streak in voting and can’t get a photo id because of all the Republican-manufactured hoops they have to jump through is stupid..

    Calling a vet in the same predicament “lazy” because he can’t manage the same kind of hoops is “stupid”..

    a very, very “stupid” person makes those kinds of calls..

    an asshat in other words.

  168. 168

    WTF?

    The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.

    Bullshit.
    If that were the case, why did the Democrats mention KILLING BIN LADEN 21 times during the Convention and many, many times in ads??
    Those attacking the Embassy were screaming
    “Obama, there are 10,000 Osama’s”
    So where in the hell did the Embassy get the info that the attack was about a movie by an Israeli Jew??
    This makes no sense on it’s face.

    This one is going to be playing out for awhile.
    A foreign policy of apologizing for the free speech act of a US citizen, followed by a US apology, followed by the murder of our Ambassador is hardly a policy of strength.

    And one other thing-
    Why is the Obama Administration apologizing for hurting someone else hurting Muslim’s feelings while Team Obama is filled with Christian haters and never is a word said. Bill Maher for example. Did Obama apologize for him?
    And how about forcing Catholics to go against their belief and pay for Birth Control??
    So many twists and turns of Obama hypocrisy.

    This one will be real interesting as it plays out.
    Just heard a tape recording of a female CBS journalist and someone from another MSM network collaborate on how to try and orchestrate questions to nail Romney. So glad some recorded this.

  169. 169

    123. Richard Pope spews:
    Liberal Scientist @ 118

    If a mob of religious zealots in Egypt had attacked our embassy in protest of a gay rights parade in the USA, or in protest of abortion being legal in this country, would it have been equally appropriate for the US embassy to apologize for gay rights and abortions being legal (and constitutionally protected) in America?

    Good point Richard. Is the Obama Administration going to apologize for any acts by the US Government or it’s citizens that might “hurt a Muslims feelings”.
    Certainly homosexuality is a Muslim No-No, as is abortion.
    So Lib Sci merely pretends he doesn’t understand your point Richard.
    But your point is very clear…
    Where does the Obama Regime start and stop making apologies for acts that hurt Muslims feelings? Very excellent point Richard.

  170. 170

    Obama criticized Bush repeatedly during times of crisis. Now it’s inappropriate?? Wow.
    I guess if you criticize Obama’s Regime for trying the old double-standard switcheroo, you are once again, a racist.

    It’s an election.
    Foreign Policy is a huge issue raised by Obama himself, criticizing Romney for not being experienced enough..even though Obama had no experience before becoming President.

  171. 171

    It’s ridiculous to believe the Obama Regime propaganda that somehow this murder of our Ambassador is about some 3rd rate movie when the crowd is screaming “Obama, there are a billion Osama’s”
    Obama has destroyed America’s position of strength in the world. He obviously wants a diminished America based on his actions & words.

  172. 172

    @167 I see our newest troll* is now weighing in with his foreign policy “expertise”.

    * Or maybe just one of the same old trolls recycling himself with a new screen name.

  173. 173

    “It’s disgraceful that the Obama administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks,” Romney said.

    America under attack and Romney’s first reponse is to attack our American president and our nation’s diplomatic missions. And here at HA we have Bob and his Klown doing the same thing. When your knee-jerk response when America is under attack is to put party before country, you only confirm what many have said of you for a long time. A lot of you really do put party before country. You should be ashamed of yourselves. I suppose it shouldn’t be a surprise to anybody by now that you’re not.

  174. 174

    Journolist-style behavior

    ‘bob’ has officially joined puddle on the other side of the shark jump.

  175. 175

    @170 “Obama has destroyed America’s position of strength in the world.”

    Uh-huh. How do you define “position of strength”? Starting a war with a third-world country that didn’t do anything to us, and then getting bogged down for 8 years? It took a Democratic president to bail you out of that one.

  176. 176

    @172 They don’t know how to be ashamed. They skipped the socialization process when they were growing up. Correction, they never grew up, and never got as far as socializing into society.

  177. 177

    “our newest troll”

    There’s nothing new about him but the screen name, Roger. He’s our old goatfucking Klown, Mr. Klynical. He’s had a string of screen names recently, sometimes even within the same thread. Darryl busted his ass for that particular sin just the other day.

  178. 178

    @176 I know various posters have been saying that, but has it been confirmed? I have the impression Darryl said he isn’t Mr. Cynical.

  180. 180

    Heh. And this religious-extremist (Jews, Christians and Muslims) inspired flare-up in the Middle East makes voters trust Dullard (R-Money) how?

    What happened to “it’s the economy stupid”..

  182. 182

    What’s interesting – right-wingers everywhere, Congress, Halperin, anonymous “high-ranking” Republican sources reported in the MSM – are sticking a fork in Romney.

    Yet our dead-enders here can’t defend him enough.

    Very illuminating about both the intelligence and morals of our resident troll infestation.

  183. 183

    @180

    Translation: Change the subject, QUICK!!!

  184. 184

    @ 173

    Lib Despair, we already know from Journolist emails that many in the MSM are coordinating their ‘reporting’.

    Here we see they’re coordinating their questions as well.

    Is this really any different from Jeff Guckert? If the questions are planted, does it really matter who is doing the planting?

    Independent journalism is a thing of the past. The present is service to The One.

  185. 185

    @ 161 greg

    FTFA:

    Klein claims credit for inspiring “Sam Bacile” to produce “The Innocence of Muslims,” promising him he would be “the next Theo Van Gogh,” referring to the Dutch columnist who was murdered by a Muslim extremist. Of the attacks in Libya, Klein said, “We went into this knowing this was probably going to happen.”

    I think I’m going to be sick. Why haven’t these men been arrested for incitement to riot? This whole thing is straight-up mindfuckery. Propaganda. And it seems to me that these men would be most directly responsible. It would serve their stated purpose of creating chaos in that region. The translation into Arabic and then bringing it up to notice in North Africa was very deliberate.

    The people rioting in Libya right now are the Ghaddafi people. The people who were just thrown out of power for chrissake. I suspect the situation is similar in Egypt.

    So the question would be;
    Are we now seeing a deliberate attempt by an entirely domestic political faction, with the express purpose of instigating violent hostilities against the United States by a foreign nation for the purposes of generating political leverage for that faction?

    Isn’t that a classic definition of Terrorism? Of Treason?

  186. 186

    pension costs

    In other words, that part of a teacher’s negotiated, agreed remuneration that was to come after they retired.

    Or, in other other words, that part of a teacher’s negotiated, agreed remuneration that is easiest to steal from them, when they have no more leverage.

  187. 187

    @177 No, Roger, what Darryl said was that it was so obvious to him that he was the Klown that didn’t even bother checking his IP address. He refers to him as “Mr. non-Cynical”.

  188. 188

    The present is service to The One.

    Paranoia is a treatable condition, ‘Dr.’ bob, you should know that.

  189. 189

    we already know from Journolist emails that many in the MSM are coordinating their ‘reporting’.

    LOL! Tin foil hat much?

  190. 190

    “The Obama administration suspects that the attack was planned, The New York Times reported.

    “President Barack Obama on Wednesday condemned the ‘outrageous’ attacks, and promised, ‘justice will be done’ with the cooperation of the Libyan government.

    He also said: ‘We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others.'”

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/48999274

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: This isn’t the Bushevik regime anymore, so you won’t see a knee-jerk response. Grown-ups are in charge now. This was a planned attack, not a spontaneous riot. We’re working with the Libyans to hunt down the terrorists. We’re bolstering security at diplomatic posts in the area. That’s what you expect a competent administration to do.

  191. 191

    we already know from Journolist emails that many in the MSM are coordinating their ‘reporting’

    Um, no. No we don’t know that.

    But if you yell ‘journolist’ or ‘Weigel’ or ‘lamestreammedia’ or ‘kenyanislamofascist’ or ‘birth certificate’ loud and often enough, you’re sure to attacts a sizeable crowd of idiots.

  192. 192

    Mitt Romney campaign:

    – Governor Romney rejects the reported message of the movie. There is no room for religious hatred or intolerance.

    Again, I think the trolls around here are a bit behind their team’s messaging.

    Bob? bob??

  193. 193

    “Paranoia is a treatable condition, ‘Dr.’ bob, you should know that.”

    Funny. I had forgotten about Bob’s residency. He apparently didn’t consider that we might actually have a real Doc or two here. Actually, I’m surprised that I forgot about that one, seeing how he’s always addressing me as “Doctor” for some strange reason. Disrespect for your medical bonifides, calling people Doctor who aren’t, the dropped reference to a residency. I have to wonder now if he’s bitter about some past failure. I think we can both imagine what that might be.

  194. 194

    Hey bob, it’s not too late…

    I used to be a serious Republican, moderate and business-oriented, who planned for a public-service career in Republican politics. But I am a Republican no longer.

  196. 196

    @184 Steve A. Klein (aka Sam Bacile??) is protected like Terry Jones and the hatemongers lead by Fred Phelps of God Inc. It will be interesting to see what fame brings to Mr. Klein’s Insurance Company in Hemet Ca.?

  198. 198

    The administration has said there is evidence of a “planned attack”, but not necessarilly of a planned riot. The attackers may have been looking for an opportunity, and the riot provided them with the cover they needed.

    It reminds me of the book about Ross Perot’s rescue team which got EDS guys out of Iran during the revolution there, some of whom were being held in the Tehran prison. They had hired a teenage local to watch the prison in case the prisoners were released without warning, and then escort them to a safe house. But taking advantage of a big demonstration at the prison, the “watchdog” actually instigated the crowd to storm the prison and free the prisoners. That’s an example of taking advantage of an unplanned opportunity to support a planned operation.

    Oh, and various news organizations are now saying that they have considerable doubt about the identity of the purported producer/promoter of this film. He claims to be a U.S. citizen who is Jewish and holds dual Israeli citizenship. He also claims to be a California property developer who raised $5 million to produce the film from Jewish financers, and also claims to have screened the entire film once before in a nearly empty theatre in southern California.

    But there is no record of anyone with his name holding any licenses for dealing with real estate in the state of California, and the Israeli embassy says there are no Israeli citizens with that name. There is also no record of any showing of the film anywhere in California. At this point, there is considerable doubt that the fellow the original news organizations talked to only be telephone actually exists.

  199. 199

    Isn’t that a classic definition of Terrorism? Of Treason?

    Terms cheapened by their use by Republicans deflecing legitimate criticsim of George W. Bush.

    But, yes, I think you have a point, a very good one.

    Just like the Reagan campaign colluding with the Iranians to bring down Carter, the far rightwing – including the Romney campaign? – are not at all beyond undermining the US government, if led by someone they despise.

  200. 200

    Good god, here we go again with rhpees black helicopter bs……..

    Better check under your bed real careful tonight rhpee…

  202. 202

    “Booted for nicking the fentanyl?”

    Good one, Doc! I would have guessed rejection by the Carribean/UAG rip-off diploma mill.

  204. 204

    At least not every Republican is as self-serving during a crisis as Dr. Bob and his failed candidate, Mitt Romney.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmi.....romney-cai

    “It’s bad,” said a former aide to Senator John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign. “Just on a factual level that the statement was not a response but preceding, or one could make the case precipitating. And just calling it a ‘disgrace’ doesn’t really cut it. Not ready for prime time.”

    “I guess we see now that it is because they’re incompetent at talking effectively about foreign policy,” said the Republican. “This is just unbelievable — when they decide to play on it they completely bungle it.”

    A third Republican, a former Bush State Department official, told BuzzFeed, “It wasn’t presidential of Romney to go political immediately — a tragedy of this magnitude should be something the nation collectively grieves before politics enters the conversation.”

    “They were just trying to score a cheap news cycle hit based on the embassy statement and now it’s just completely blown up,” said a very senior Republican foreign policy hand, who called the statement an “utter disaster” and a “Lehman moment” — a parallel to the moment when John McCain, amid the 2008 financial crisis, failed to come across as a steady leader.

  205. 205

    “Not ready for prime time.” “Incompetent”. “It wasn’t presidential” “Cheap news cycle hit” “Utter disaster”.

    And that’s just Republicans talking.

  206. 206

    “I would have liked to see a statement [from Romney] that looked more like leading, presenting a vision, less like ‘again, Obama sucks,'” former Republican National Committee online communication director Liz Mair.

  207. 207

    @204 Yup, Mittens made a major faux pas, and tripped over his own dick again. London all over again but this time on steroids.

    Republicans are so enslaved to their “Obama hates America” meme they can’t see straight, think straight, or talk straight.

  208. 208

    Speaking on Fox News, conservative columnist Peggy Noonan was also blunt. “I don’t feel that Mr. Romney has been doing himself any favors in the past few hours,” she said. “Sometimes when really bad things happen, when hot things happen, cool words or no words is the way to go.”

  209. 209

    Well, at least Mitt and Bob have a Klynical Klown on their side, if not McCain, McConnell, Graham, Boehner, Noonan, Krystal and all the rest. Having a Klynical Klown on your side has gotta count for something, doesn’t it?

  210. 210

    It hardly seems fair for us to pile on Mitt, seeing as how plenty of Republicans are doing it for us. Well, almost all. There’s still Bob and his sidekick, the Klynical Klown.

  211. 211

    “There’s a broader lesson to be learned here: Governor Romney seems to have a tendency to shoot first and aim later and as president one of the things I’ve learned is you can’t do that,” Obama told CBS News on Wednesday. “It’s important for you to make sure that the statements that you make are backed up by the facts and that you’ve thought through the ramifications before you make them.”
    I like having an adult as a president.

  212. 212

    (Accidentally posted on other thread, reposted here)

    From TPM:

    “If Gov. Romney ‘jumped the gun’ why were White House officials also distancing themselves from the statement?” Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul said in a statement. “Why didn’t President Obama take any questions from the press this morning to explain?”

    This is almost verbatim what sharkjumpin’ bob wrote above.

    Can’t we just read Romney press releases ourselves, and dispense with Romney-felating bob’s insipid posts?

  213. 213

    seeing as how plenty of Republicans are doing it for us

    That won’t last, unfortunately. Ranks are closing already…

    Here also is Daniel Foster, no Rubin-esque psycho or Kristol-ian hack, referring to Romney’s dishonest and ill-timed smear as “awkward” and essentially blaming the lib’rul media for piling on poor beleaguered Romney. (Foster’s post also summarizes Romney’s statement thusly: “Romney calls Cairo embassy response disgraceful.” With that sort of paraphrase it really is tough to see what all this fuss was about!)

    …and of course, Jennifer Rubin…

    (“The president’s appallingly weak reaction to the incidents yesterday in Benghazi as well as the assault on our embassy in Cairo highlights just how unprepared and disengaged he is on matters of national security. Before our eyes, in the maelstrom at two embassies and in the economic doldrums, he is transforming into Jimmy Carter.”)

    I guess if you ever lose Jennifer Rubin, it’s really all over. Dare to dream.

  214. 214

    we already know from Journolist emails that many in the MSM are coordinating their ‘reporting’.

    The arschloch ylbuttspigot whips out the tin foil. Unfortunately arschloch ylbuttspigot <a href="http://“>is wearing it as WikiPedia shows… like the dripping diarrhea from his arschloch!

  215. 215

    First we had “tricky dick” Nixon and now we have “trips on his dick” Romney. It’s a natural progression.

    I’m just now seeing the news of the day. Dang.

  216. 216

    Did Obummer discuss our embassy breach in Egypt? Why did the Egyptian security services walk away? Remember Obummer went to Egypt in June 2009 on his apology tour!

    No strength from this sadministration!

  217. 217

    This attack has everything to do with the date 9/11 and Al Zawahiri discussing the death of an Al Qaeda guy from a drone attack, not the video. The video was used as a catalyst to get people at the embassy and catalyst.

    Also we know the DNC cheerleaded the death of Bin Laden last week. You libtards forget the world watched the DUMMOCRAPT cheerleading, right before 9/11. Great timing libtards! It’s pox on your house morons!

  218. 218

    puddle is, of course, an idiot, and in good company with rightard hero Donald Rumsfeld:

    The attacks on our embassies & diplomats are a result of perceived American weakness. Mitt Romney is right to point that out.
    — @RumsfeldOffice via Twitter for iPhone

    Truth:

    June 14, 2002, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
    Suicide bomber kills 12 and injures 51.
    February 20, 2003, international diplomatic compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
    Truck bomb kills 17.

    February 28, 2003, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
    Gunmen on motorcycles killed two consulate guards.

    July 30, 2004, U.S. embassy in Taskkent, Uzbekistan
    Suicide bomber kills two.

    December 6, 2004, U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
    Militants stormed and occupied perimeter wall. Five killed, 10 wounded.

    March 2, 2006, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
    Suicide car bomber killed four, including a U.S. diplomate directly targeted by the assailants.

    September 12, 2006, U.S. embassy in Damascus, Syria
    Gunmen attacked embassy with grenades, automatic weapons, and a car bomb (though second truck bomb failed to detonate). One killed and 13 wounded.

    January 12, 2007, U.S. embassy in Athens, Greece
    A rocket-propelled grenade was fired at the embassy building. No one was injured.

    July 9, 2008, U.S. consulate in Istanbul, Turkey
    Armed men attacked consulate with pistols and shotguns. Three policemen killed.

    March 18, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana’a, Yemen
    Mortar attack misses embassy, hits nearby girls’ school instead.

    September 17, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana’a, Yemen
    Militants dressed as policemen attacked the embassy with RPGs, rifles, grenades and car bombs. Six Yemeni soldiers and seven civilians were killed. Sixteen more were injured.

  219. 219

    No, I’m calling cramer lazy for not helping his dad.

    He did. Within 7 hours of Cramer speaking out, the PA Transportation Dept got his dad transport to get his photo id..

    A tv show, a multi-million dollar net worth and a twitter feed of one-half a million followers can do wonders..

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi.....solved.php

    Not every infirm veteran senior has that. pwned..

  220. 220

    @217

    Breathtaking stupidity. Better than usual, even.

    Truly a monumental achievement, puddle, in the field of stupid.

  221. 221

    The Obummer sadministration took many many hours to dismiss the original American embassy communique in Cairo. Why? Were they clueless?

    The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims — as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others.

  222. 222

    214 – Yawwn.. More tinfoil from the most moronic of conspiracy spinners here…

    Dullard’s “positive” message not getting out???

    Shit, I thought all those millions from right wing billionaires were supposed to do that!

  223. 223

    Seems the intelligence community is reporting it was a 9/11 coordinated attack. Not being reported on PMSNBC Lib da dunce? Lib da dunce dismisses the US intelligence community. Did Obummer miss the daily briefing again?

    Stay stupid Lib da dunce!

  224. 224

    Now the libtard msm begins the rip Lib da dunce a NEW ASSHOLE!

    Cairo embassy in broad daylight. No one armed. Benghazi heavily armed with rocket propelled grenades.

    See? when you actually read instead of dwelling on left wrong sites and it being 9/11! IDIOT!

  225. 225

    On Sept. 11, al-Qaida leader Ayman al-Zawahiri put out a video eulogizing Abu Yahya al-Libi, an Islamist terrorist and high-ranking al-Qaida member, who was killed in a drone attack in June. Sources have said they believe the Libyan incident might have been revenge for the death of al-Libi.

    How are those new ASSHOLES feeling Lib da dunce?

  226. 226

    Tin foil hat weating ylbuttspigot, HA’s diarrhea king… WikiPedia proved you wrong. Yes Facts seem to put you into an idiot stupor state.

  227. 227

    Wow Lib da dunce runs to Daily Kooks… while others use the standard libtard msm for news!

    So typical of that moron Lib da dunce!

  228. 228

    Wow Lib da dunce runs to Daily Kooks…

    Please…if you’re going to whine, provide factual rebuttal. The list could be gotten anywhere, and if you can impeach it with facts, do so.

    You can’t, of course, so you whine about the source – which is vastly more truthful and reliable than the bullshit right-wing site you link to, when you link at all.

  229. 229

    Wow Lib da dunce runs to Daily Kooks… while others use the standard libtard msm for news!

    So typical of that moron Lib da dunce!

    When you’ve got nothin’, this is what you write.

  230. 230

    WikiPedia proved you wrong.

    Nope. No “conspiracy” I could see..

    Dullard (R-Money) like McSame before him is doing just fine sinking his own ship..

    Sure does suck for an ODS sufferer like you! Oh the pain!

  232. 232

    @231

    ‘failure monkeys’ – I like that!

    Applies to Mittens’ foreign policy staff, 70% of whom are Bush retreads.

    We can see today where that would get us.

  234. 234

    ‘failure monkeys’ – I like that!

    Failure Monkey is originally from the comic strip Get Fuzzy.

  236. 236

    Please…if you’re going to whine, provide factual rebuttal.

    Oh like your whine on post #214? Now the US government (Obummer’s sadministration) has delivered Lib da dunce a few new ASSHOLES!

    Puddy stands behind his comment… Daily Kooks, so typical of Lib da dunce. His PC prolly has Daily Kooks as one of his most visited links in the bookmarks toolbar!

    Mirror mirror on da wall, who’s the moron of dem all? Large echo sound… Lib da duncccce, followed closely by rujax and ylbuttspigotttt.

  237. 237

    The single purpose of the FoxNoise story linkin @235 was to broadcast this:

    Still, Maureen Ferguson and Ashley McGuire of the Catholic Association are calling for Sebelius’ resignation.

    From a more reliable source:

    Although Hatch Act violations can be a firing offense for federal employees, it appeared unlikely that Sebelius would be disciplined.

    Awwwww…Rhett has a sad :(

  238. 238

    How unfathomable is it that the Middle East embassies were caught unprepared on the 11 anniversary of 9/11. Did Obummer miss the daily briefing again?

  239. 239

    Will Obummer send the special strike force marines to track down those Libyan attackers who killed those four Americans?

  240. 240

    @236

    Oh like your whine on post #214?

    Um, post #214 was your post, puddle.

    Puddy stands behind his comment…

    That you’re going to whine and not offer a factual rebuttal?
    I offered a list of 11 incidents where terrorists attacked US diplomatic sites during Rumsfeld’s tenure, after Rumsfeld insinuated that Obama-induced US weakness was a cause of the attacks yesterday, an accusation that you dutifully echoed.

    You have yet to explain how those attacks were not due to Bush-induced US weakness.

    Waiting….waiting…

    (Just like waiting for you to explain the logic of Crazy Lady Mia Love’s nonsensical statements, or why you’ve rejected Jesus’ admonition to love the least of His brothers)

    Waiting…waiting…waiting…

  241. 241

    Oh noes… another ASSHOLE appears on Lib da dunce…

    The actions of the mob in Libya and the clear interventions of the former regime are nothing short of pure evil and in no way representative of the teachings and practices of the faith of Islam.

    At this time of grief it is important that we steel our resolve against this evil. We must not blink in the face of this irrational reaction to the mere words of a little known filmmaker. Apologies from our government to this absurd mob are ridiculous and counterproductive to establishment of true human rights within this region.

    Moderate Muslims are taking a stand against their OWS types. Oh noes…

  242. 242

    @239 Puddles asks:

    Will Obummer send the special strike force marines to track down those Libyan attackers who killed those four Americans?

    You’re just nutz aren’t you?

    Do you honestly think for one moment that THIS president is not going to go after and KILL terrorists who attack Americans?

    Let me answer your retarded question. Yes.

  243. 243

    @213 “That won’t last, unfortunately. Ranks are closing already…”

    Too late. There’s enough sound bites, articles, blogs and tweets of Republicans piling on Mitt to feed $100 million in Obama and SuperPAC ads. They even have images of Mitt smirking over it all. Damn.

    http://www.nationaljournal.com.....n-20120912

    Romney’s decision to weigh in is generating criticism from fellow Republicans. Former Sen. John Sununu of New Hampshire said on MSNBC Wednesday morning: “They probably should have waited. … You look at the way things unfolded, you look at the timing of it, they probably should have waited.”

    Why Romney do this? For the sake of the nation?

    http://www.nationaljournal.com.....n-20120912

    “This is an opportunity and a chance for us to debate existing administration policy,” the senior official said.

    It’d be a laugh if it wasn’t so damned serious a blunder on Romney’s part.

    Americans die, Mitt smirks. Must Republicans always smirk when they fuck up?

    I really hope he doesn’t fuck up like that again. I’d hate to see the oaf blunder the nation towards war or something just by flapping his big mouth before Obama sends him packing to the history books in November.

    You Republicans really ought to figure out a way to quit nominating people like Palin, Galt and Mitt to the highest offices in the land. You’ll be the ruin of our country if you keep doing that shit.

  244. 244

    Oh like your whine on post #214?

    Um, post #214 was your post, puddle.

    Wowo such stupidity… Did Puddy say like your whine IN post #214? Lib da dunce has such a command of English!

    How do those new ASSHOLES feel?

  245. 245

    Just another example of the party that failed to protect America on September 11th 2001 continuing to fail us in all respects


    “I’m grateful to him (Romney) for formulating his stance so clearly because he has once again proven the correctness of our approach to missile defense problems,” Putin told reporters, according to the Russian news agency RIA Novosti.

    “The most important thing for us is that even if he doesn’t win now, he or a person with similar views may come to power in four years. We must take that into consideration while dealing with security issues for a long perspective,” he said, speaking after a meeting with Serbian President Tomislav Nikolic, according to Interfax news agency.

  247. 247

    @244

    Um, puddl, I neither authored #214, nor responded to it.

    You’re so intent on braying about diarrhea and assholes, you can’t keep your posts, or your insults, straight.

  248. 248

    @245

    Yup! Vladimir Putin thanking Romney for stating that Russia was the main geopolitical foe of the US.

    Mittens is fucking up foreign policy without even holding office.

    Thank god he never will.

  249. 249

    As Romney goes down in flames today, taking the GOP down with him, as Americans die and Romney smirks, Pudge tries to find himself and his depressed (un)SP dimwits a “happy space”, asking this question,

    “Just one example of when the Republicans in Congress, under Obama, opposed legislation just because they wanted to hurt Obama.”

    It’s actually kind of sad and it brings a tear to my eye. Just kidding. Idiots. All of them. Stupid fucking idiots.

  250. 250

    Large echo sound… Lib da duncccce, followed closely by rujax and ylbuttspigotttt.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHA…I’m SOOOO in puddl’s head!

    This is really too easy.

  251. 251

    @217 “This attack has everything to do with the date 9/11 and Al Zawahiri discussing the death of an Al Qaeda guy from a drone attack”

    I assume you attended the planning sessions, then, because otherwise how would you know this?

  252. 252

    Answer:

    Large echo sound…

    Question:

    What happens when an ‘idea’ finds its way into puddl’s cranium and swirls around for awhile.

  253. 253

    @217 Yup, leave it to puddy to blame this attack on Obama’s killing of Osama bin Laden.

  254. 254

    @249

    Yeah, I saw that – pudge pathetically bleating about how no one could possibly give him an example of that.

    Followed be a total of something like 11 or 14 posts from the usual suspects saying the equivalent of, “Yeah.”

    Inspiring.

  255. 255

    Okay I got that wrong. I meant your moaning and groaning in #220 about my #217. It’s easy to get ylbuttspigot and Lib da dunce confused.

    Whining comment still stands Lib da schmuck on your post #220!

    How are those NEW ASSHOLES working on your body delivered directly by Obummer’s sadministration? Now you can post faster with the additional dribble capacity!

  256. 256

    Okay I got that wrong

    WOW. Must be taking your meds.

  257. 257

    @249 Don’t overlook his sidekick Jim Miller, who’s complaining on (u)SP that the Washington Education Association didn’t go on strike this fall because they don’t want to hurt Inslee’s chances — poor McKenna can’t catch a break!

  258. 258

    OK, post #217…

    Raving speculation and nonsense sentences like:

    The video was used as a catalyst to get people at the embassy and catalyst.

    What the fuck does that even mean?

    Also…

    Also we know the DNC cheerleaded the death of Bin Laden last week.

    Yeah, so? god knows the Republicans would never cheearlead about terrorism, or use American military triumph in a political fashion…*rolls eyes*

    Post #217 merited nothing but derision and ridicule.

    Every time I deal with puddl, this scene fom ‘Dodgeball’ goes through my head:

    White Goodman: Go ahead, make your jokes, Mr. Jokey… Joke-maker. But let me hit you with some knowledge. Quit now. Save yourself the embarrassment of losing with these losers in Las Vegas, La Fleur.
    Peter La Fleur: Alliteration aside, I’ll take my chances in the tournament.
    White Goodman: Yeah, you will take your chances.
    Peter La Fleur: I know. I just said that.
    White Goodman: I know you just said that.
    Peter La Fleur: Okay, I’m not sure where you’re going with this.
    White Goodman: Well, I’m not sure where *you’re* going with this.
    Peter La Fleur: That’s what I said.
    White Goodman: That’s what I’m saying to *you*.
    Peter La Fleur: All right.
    White Goodman: …Touché.

  259. 259

    Those goddamned Republicans ought to just STFU,

    A spokesman for Rep. Nan Hayworth (R-N.Y.) is facing criticism after advocating violence against female Democratic senators in a Facebook post.

    Jay Townsend, the official campaign spokesman for the freshman representative, went on a vicious online rant on Saturday, which he began by taunting a constituent who voiced criticism about an earlier post on gas prices. “Listen to Tom. What a little bee he has in his bonnet. Buzz Buzz,” Townsend wrote.

    “My question today… when is Tommy boy going to weigh in on all the Lilly Ledbetter hypocrites who claim to be fighting the War on Women? Let’s hurl some acid at those female democratic Senators who won’t abide the mandates they want to impose on the private sector.“

    Damn. He goes from a question about gas prices to throwing acid at female Democrats in the blink of an eye. It’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better, if it ever does.

  260. 260

    A career diplomat had sharp words for Mitt Romney this afternoon:

    “Former Amb. R. Nicholas Burns, who has served in both Democratic and Republican administrations, said he was ‘disappointed’ in Mitt Romney’s reaction to the violence in Egypt and Libya …. ‘I was, frankly, very disappointed and dismayed to see Gov. Romney inject politics into this very difficult situation where our embassies are under attack, where there’s been a big misunderstanding in the Middle East, apparently, about an American film, where we’re trying to preserve the lives of our diplomats,’ Burns said …. ‘This is no time for politics.’ Burns added: ‘I just think that Gov. Romney has, in a very unwise way, injected himself into a situation where he clearly doesn’t have all the facts.'”

    And leave it to the idiot giving Romney foreign policy advice to pop off without having any facts:

    “Williamson … dismissed Burns’ criticism, deriding him as someone who first served under former President Jimmy Carter. But Burns … actually began his foreign-service career during the Reagan administration.”

    http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_.....ponse?lite

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: No wonder Romney is so lame — he surrounds himself with stupid people who can’t even do the basic fact-checking that involves nothing more than looking up someone’s biography on Wikipedia.

  261. 261

    It just struck me…the similarities between puddl and White Goodman are really striking, and he’s named “White”.

    Delicious. White Puddman.

  263. 263

    Steve, R U Stupid.

    Putin tells Obummer hands off Syria. Obummer tucks tail.

    Putin tells Obummer through his proxy

    “The American side is not prepared to give us foolproof guarantees that the missile defence system they are deploying in Europe will not target Russia,” said Mr. Ushakov. “Oral assurances are not enough.”

    Putin tells Obummer through his proxy

    Mr. Putin will tell Mr. Obama that “unilateral U.S. sanctions against Iran that run against international law and affect third countries are unacceptable”, said Mr. Ushakov briefing Russian media ahead of Mr. Putin’s departure for Mexico on Sunday.

    Putin tells Obummer through his proxy

    “This is a matter of principle for us. If the sanctions hit Russian banks and companies, they will deal a blow to our bilateral relations and interaction on international issues,” Mr. Ushakov warned.

    Putin tells Obummer through his proxy

    “We are talking about restrictive measures not only against Iran but also affecting foreign companies and individuals working with it, including in the hydrocarbon extraction and transport, petrochemicals, finance and insurance industries,” the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

    Putin tells Obummer through his proxy

    “We consider efforts to … impose internal American legislation on the entire world completely unacceptable,” the Russian Foreign Ministry said. “We reject methods of overt blackmail that the United States resorts to in relation to the companies and banks of other countries.”

    And Steve once again proves he doesn’t get it. Puddy realizes these comments weren’t in US newspapers! You only see this overseas when you travel and read their newspapers!

  264. 264

    @260
    He was overwhelmed by the opportunity to say what they believe are the two magical words that will get Mittens elected: “Jimmy Carter”

    He just couldn’t help himself.

  265. 265

    @263 Do you read Russian? I’ve kinda suspected you were a Russian mole. The first time I laid eyes on you, something told me you looked sorta Russian. I think it was your beady eyes.

  266. 266

    Puddls entire post @263 is cribbed verbatim from the Hindu, here, and Haaretz, here.

    puddl, doesn’t baby Jeebus cry when you steal intellectual property like that, without attribution?

    Moreover, you could edit your post to be punctuated with

    Putin tells HA through his proxy puddl

    and be accurate!

    Why are Republicans like Mittens and puddl so determined to serve Putin’s interests? Is it the shirtless pictures?

  267. 267

    The four American bodies are hardly even cold and Obummer is out in Vegas campaigning… Finally sez we’ll bring the killers to justice 24 hours later instead of immediately stating this!

    Very telling!

  268. 268

    @266 Oh noes! puddles is a plagiarist! you don’t say! well, he has to, because he never has original thoughts of his own.

  269. 269

    @267 Even as Romney maintains a respectful silence … NOT!!!

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

    puddles you are actually funny sometimes!

  270. 270

    The four American bodies are hardly even cold and Obummer is out in Vegas campaigning…

    Oh! The straw-grasping is getting really really desperate now.

    puddl, when are you going to explain to me the logic of Crazy Lady Mia Love’s nonsensical statement about women’s choice, or why you were ridiculing another person’s attempt to live Jesus admonition to love the least of our brothers?

  272. 272

    Puddy realizes these comments weren’t in US newspapers! You only see this overseas when you travel and read their newspapers!

    And Lib da dunce sez what? Nothing much.

    Ummm Lib da dunce… Puddy read those when he was overseas. Sucks to be you dunce! How did Puddy know about those comments Lib da dunce? Huh? Crickets chirping…

    Does it change the FACTS of Putin’s utter disregard of Obummer? Nope! Putin kicked Obummer’s ASS. Putin drew a line in the sand. Putin wants Obummer to win. Obummer promised flexibility. Or this… Somehow this was missed by Steve’s post above…

    So: Romney wants to return to the era of Reagan, when Putin’s beloved USSR was obliterated. It’s hardly surprising that Putin is delighted with Obama and wants to see him returned to power.

  273. 273

    You only see this overseas when you travel and read their newspapers!

    Um, bullshit. I found those in about 12 seconds with this thing called ‘the Google’ sitting in front of my computer in Seattle.

    You’re very impressed with your traveling, aren’t you? Did your employer allow you the petty pleasure of staying on the ‘concierge floor’ at the shitty Marriott again this time?

  275. 275

    Does it change the FACTS of Putin’s utter disregard of Obummer?

    I believe Putin was thanking Romney, today, for his inane pronouncements about foreign policy and how those statements aided Russia.

    Bozo.

    White Puddman, indeed.

  276. 276

    I found those in about 12 seconds with this thing called ‘the Google’ sitting in front of my computer in Seattle.

    You found them after I posted them not before. You had never read them before Lib da dunce. You are such an idiot! Puddy has seen many more comments in my travels, including China’s commentary to Obummer over Syria earlier this year, none of them ever covered by the slobbering Obummer loving msm.

  277. 277

    @263, 272 – Looks like puddles is afraid of the big bad wolf.

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

  278. 278

    Meanwhile, the Republican War on Women moves relentlessly onward,

    The Republican-controlled Missouri State Legislature voted on Wednesday to override Gov. Jay Nixon’s (D) veto of a bill that would allow employers and insurers to refuse to cover birth control, abortion or sterilization for moral reasons.

  279. 279

    So: Romney wants to return to the era of Reagan, when Putin’s beloved USSR was obliterated. It’s hardly surprising that Putin is delighted with Obama and wants to see him returned to power.

    The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

    BTW it seems Glenn Beck’s Muslim Brotherhood comments are spot on regarding the issue of Egypt’s security forces disappearing from our embassy!

    Just ask CBS’ Lara Logan and her “treatment” by Egypt’s finest!

  281. 281

    263. Puddybud spews: “Steve”

    I have no idea at all why you addressed that comment to me. I don’t recall even mentioning Putin. I’ve been too busy sharing Republican disgust with Mitt Romney, a Republican wanting to throw acid at women and, inspired by that last one, a post on the continuong Republican War on Women.

  282. 282

    @ 261. Liberal Scientist is a slut etc

    It just struck me…the similarities between puddl and White Goodman are really striking, and he’s named “White”.

    Delicious. White Puddman.

    Spudds Whiteman.

    You remember. The old golf pro that got sent up for putting at the wrong hole.

  283. 283

    Yeah, looks like Clinton is offering freebees to Putin too…

    The effort to grant Russia normal trade status, however, has become entangled in legislation that would punish Russian officials accused of abusing human rights, denying them visas and freezing their assets. That has raised doubts that any agreement on lifting the Jackson-Vanik provisions can be reached before the November election.

    The human rights bill, which has bipartisan support in both houses of Congress, is named after Sergei Magnitsky, a lawyer who died in prison in 2009 after being prosecuted on charges that his supporters argue were manufactured to cover up official corruption.

    Seems Romney is right!

  284. 284

    Where was the Obummer anger at da whitey house presser over the killing of the ambassador this afternoon?

  286. 286

    You know Romney got something right when the libtard press asked the same seven questions in a row. Then the open mike proves they libtard press colluded together with those seven questions!!!

  287. 287

    Where was the Obummer anger at da whitey house presser over the killing of the ambassador this afternoon?

    I suppose he was supposed to stamp his feet and sputter, maybe holler, “Bring ’em on!!”
    Maybe threaten to kill the perps with his own bare hands.

    You right wingers are never satisfied unless there’s an ostentatious show of bloodlust.

    Puddl, as a Christian, how would Jesus respond to his ambasador being murdered?

  289. 289

    So when Obummer sends those marines to kill those thugs in Benghazi, will it be an overseas contingency operation instead of the continuing war on terror?

  290. 290

    Puddl, as a Christian, how would Jesus respond to his ambasador being murdered?

    Why do you bring Jesus up? Seems you use Jesus as a crutch to make insipid commentary!

    ENDOFSTORY

    How are those sadministration delivered ASSHOLES doing Lib da dunce?

  291. 291

    So when the American diplomatic missions are under attack and some Americans are dying, what does Mitt Romney do? He attacks them as well.

    Thank God there are Republicans with cooler heads than that. It gives me some hope. It’s just too bad for America that none of them are the Republican presidential candidate this year.

  293. 293

    Oh noes… CNN delivers another new ASSHOLE on Lib da dunce.

    But U.S. sources said Wednesday the four-hour assault in Benghazi had been planned, with the attackers using the protest as a diversion.

    So did Obummer miss this when he missed 40+% of his morning briefings?

  294. 294

    @284 Right here, puddles …

    “At 7:22 a.m. ET, President Obama issued the following statement:

    ‘I strongly condemn the outrageous attack on our diplomatic facility in Benghazi, which took the lives of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens. Right now, the American people have the families of those we lost in our thoughts and prayers. They exemplified America’s commitment to freedom, justice, and partnership with nations and people around the globe, and stand in stark contrast to those who callously took their lives.'”

    http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_.....libya?lite

    But you know what, puddles? I don’t want an angry man in the White House. I want a calm, rationale, and calculating man sitting behind that desk.

  295. 295

    I want a calm, rationale, and calculating man sitting behind that desk.

    Yeah, SENILE one… one who won’t call them radical muslim extremists… one who won’t call it a war on terror, just an overseas contingency operation. Yeah that’s really calculating.

  298. 298

    With the way things are fast going downhill for Mitt and his party, I now wonder if Bob will even make it to November? Puddy will be here, though.

  299. 299

    @297 If Osama bin Laden weren’t dead because Obama killed him, he’d be laughing at you: “Sticks and stones can break my bones but little ol’ names can’t hurt me …”

  301. 301

    It gets worse for Romney and the GOP by the hour, and this time it’s Fox delivering the bad news. That’s gotta suck.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politic.....tion-poll/

    An increase in support from women as well as independents gives Barack Obama a post-convention advantage over challenger Mitt Romney. The president receives a five percentage-point bounce among women and a 12-point bounce among independents, in a Fox News poll released Wednesday.

    Overall, the Obama-Biden ticket tops the Romney-Ryan ticket by 48 to 43 percent among likely voters.

    That’s a four-point “convention bounce” for Obama among likely voters. Before the conventions, Romney edged Obama by one point (45-44 percent, August 19-21, 2012).

    That enthusiasm edge has evaporated.

    Obama’s personal favorable rating also improves — up two points to 53 percent since the conventions.

    Romney bests Obama outright on just one issue: cutting government spending (+13 points).

    And it’s just going to get worse for them.

  303. 303

    I wonder which flameout was the worst in American history, the Hindenburg or Romney and the GOP? I’d have to say Romney and the GOP. At least the Hindenburg was quick. Romney and the GOP’s flameout is excruciatingly slow and painful for them. The Hindenburg was likely an accident. Romney and the GOP did it to themselves.

  304. 304

    Puddybud says @290:

    Why do you bring Jesus up? Seems you use Jesus as a crutch to make insipid commentary!

    I’ll say this with no snark or vituperation, and I’ll ask that you respond similarly.

    You’ve said repeatedly that I’m going to be sorry when Jesus returns “in clouds of glory.” I take it from your belief in a biblical timeline, in a literal Bible, and in your professions of faith that you are a devout Christian.

    I contrast this with numerous posts in this thread demanding anger and violence, faulting Obama for not acting forcefully.

    My question is, how do you reconcile this? Do you believe in Jesus’ message of love? Do you aspire to the unconditional love that he preached? Do you endeavor to treat the least of your brothers with the same love you hold for God?

    If so, how is it you call for death and violence?

    How do you call yourself a Christian, while calling for the violent death of your enemies?

    How does that work?

  305. 305

    I want a calm, rationale, and calculating man sitting behind that desk.

    Yeah, SENILE one… one who won’t call them radical muslim extremists… one who won’t call it a war on terror, just an overseas contingency operation. Yeah that’s really calculating.

    So what? The Obama Admin’s the one that’s been taking out terrorists. Bush and Romney both said they didn’t care about Osama. Obama, obviously, disagreed with them on that.

  306. 306

    @304 “I contrast this with numerous posts in this thread demanding anger and violence, faulting Obama for not acting forcefully.”

    I see the issue more tactically. Who does puddy expect Obama to use force against? We have to find the perps first. Or does puddy think Obama should randomly bomb Libya until a satisfying number of Libyans are dead?

  308. 308

    If we don’t consider Egypt an ally:


    Anthony Terrell@AnthonyNBCNews
    In an exclusive @BarackObama tells @jdbalart “I don’t think that we would consider (Egypt) an ally” #msnbc2012


    Why do we sent them more than a billion dollars each year, Mr. President?

  310. 310

    @308
    Good question!

    We’ve been sending Egypt a lot of cash for a long, long, time. I think it’s time for the US to stop playing sugar-daddy to the world. I have no problem with helping pay for people from other countries to come here to study or pay to send American’s abroad to teach, but that should be about the end of it.

  311. 311

    @ 310

    From what I recall it’s been mostly a payoff to keep them from attacking Israel (again). What’s striking is that we’d suddenly say they’re not our ally.

    Kinda makes Israel comparatively more important to us, doesn’t it? We seem to be running out of Middle East allies.

  314. 314

    @ 313

    I suppose one difference is that, existential threat aside, Israel possesses the capacity to feed its inhabitants. And then some.

    If it weren’t for defense against attack, would Israel need the money? Methinks not.

  316. 316

    If it weren’t for defense against attack, would Israel need the money? Methinks not.

    Israel’s a first world country with a highly educated population and a diverse economy. It doesn’t need the money period.

  317. 317

    “It’s like the judge telling the woman who got raped, ‘You asked for it because of the way you dressed.’ OK? That’s the same thing. ‘Well America, you should be the ones to apologize, you should have known this would happen, you should have done — what I don’t know — but it’s your fault that it happened.’ You know, for a member of our State Department to put out a statement like that, it had to be cleared by somebody. They don’t just do that in the spur of the moment.” — Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ)

    http://www.salon.com/2012/09/1.....pe_victim/

  318. 318

    Confused Neocons Dep’t

    “There’s a strong consensus on the Right that we should be headed for a much more decisive repudiation of this administration than the current polls suggest is possible.” — Ross Douthat

    “If the Republican Party cannot win in this environment it has to get out of politics.” — George Will

    “If you can’t beat Barack Obama with this record then shut down the party.” — Laura Ingraham

    http://open.salon.com/blog/ted.....n_failures

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Amazing as it seems, Republicans genuinely don’t understand why nobody likes them.

  319. 319

    It isn’t complicated:

    “Before Republicans lose themselves in metaphysical speculations about the causes for their party’s underperformance, Douthat thinks conservatives need to get a grip and face the most obvious explanation of all for their party’s declining prospects: ‘The recent presidency of George W. Bush.’

    “Gallup polls going back to the beginning of the Obama presidency have been remarkably consistent: By overwhelming margins, the American public continues to blame George W. Bush for the country’s present economic discontents rather than President Obama.

    “When Gallup first began probing for this ‘blame assessment’ in July 2009, 80% of Americans gave Bush a great deal or a moderate amount of blame, compared with just 32% who blamed the bad economy on Obama.

    “According to Gallup, the percentage blaming Bush dropped to about 70% in August 2010, and has stayed roughly in that range ever since. Meanwhile, about half of Americans have blamed Obama since March 2010, ‘with little substantive change from then to the present.’ Even half of Republicans give the lion’s share of blame to Bush.”

    http://open.salon.com/blog/ted.....n_failures

    Du-oh!

  321. 321

    Well Lookee Here …

    This one’s been flying under the radar, but guess what, Paul Ryan’s challenger is coming up in the polls and Ryan may be facing a horse race just to hold onto his House seat.

    http://www.salon.com/2012/09/1....._expected/

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: While it seems improbable, it’ll be a hoot if Ryan loses his House seat on Nov. 6.

  322. 322

    “Americans don’t want to give the White House back to the Republicans because they remember the Bush era all too well,” said Douthat.

    I thought Cereal told we weren’t allowed to blame Bush anymore.

    Does Douthat have a bad case of Bush Derangement Syndrome?

  323. 323

    In case you didn’t know, Paul Ryan represents a swing district where he is personally popular; his district went for Obama in 2008 by 51%-47%. This is Les Aspin’s old district, a Democrat who held the seat for 22 years. So it’s not a “safe Republican” district and could be in play if Ryan stumbles in the main event. Even if he’s re-elected to the House, as he probably will be, it’s eminently possible he can’t deliver his own district (let alone his state) for the GOP ticket.

  324. 324

    Who does puddy expect Obama to use force against? We have to find the perps first. Or does puddy think Obama should randomly bomb Libya until a satisfying number of Libyans are dead?

    That’s one of the things I was trying to get at, Roger.

    This wrathful bloodlust from the Republicans – the party that so ostentatiously wears its self-righteousness on its sleeve.

    I in fact think the whole bunch of them would cheer like Romans in the Coliseum if we were to bomb a bunch of brown Muslims indiscriminately.

  325. 325

    @322 Douthat is one of the more coherent neocons trying to make sense of all the flaming debris raining down on them.

  326. 326

    We sure could have used an open thread today! Did the person in charge of making sure open threads are created get killed in the Libya consulate attack?

  327. 327

    Anyway, I see that our embassy in Cairo finally deleted the apology posting:

    File not found.

    http://egypt.usembassy.gov/pr091112.html

    Of course, President Obama didn’t like the posting either. Nor did Secretary Clinton. But what Romney said was pretty idiotic, worse than what the embassy posted in Egypt, and at least none of our embassy staff over there wants to be President!

    And that inflammatory movie sure is totally idiotic, and was produced by a convicted bank swindler. Incredibly, the actors are real, but the dialogue is dubbed — since no person of good faith would say the things that are said in the movie. And when you dub things in a foreign language — let’s say Arabic — it is even more believable that the actors really said those things.

    Any way we can deport the movie producer back to Egypt? Is he naturalized? Did he commit the bank fraud before he was naturalized?

  328. 328

    Quiet around here this morning.

  329. 329

    My question is, how do you reconcile this?

    So easy Lib da dunce… righteous indignation. You denigrate the Creator of the Universse and His Son, He’ll denigrate you when He returns. Plain and simple.

    Seems the simple thing fly right by you!

  330. 330

    Roger SENILE Wabbit farted this

    I see the issue more tactically. Who does puddy expect Obama to use force against? We have to find the perps first. Or does puddy think Obama should randomly bomb Libya until a satisfying number of Libyans are dead?

    Somehow the SENILE one and his coattail dragger Lib da dunce missed this from the CubScout above…

    Do you honestly think for one moment that THIS president is not going to go after and KILL terrorists who attack Americans?

    Let me answer your [useless adjective] question. Yes.

    So Roger SENILE Wabbit and his coattail dragger Lib da dunce… Seems the CubScout disagrees with your “assessment”. Maybe Cubscout bought a clue today!

  332. 332

    My question is, how do you reconcile this?

    So easy Lib da dunce… righteous indignation. You denigrate the Creator of the Universse and His Son, He’ll denigrate you when He returns. Plain and simple.

    I think you misunderstand, puddy.

    I’m asking you how you reconcile Jesus’ admonition to love your enemy while at the same time calling for violence and vengeance.

    How do you reconcile those two things?

  333. 333

    Interesting commentary from an Obummer speech The World Beyond Iraq, Fayetville, NC 3/19/2008 is now coming back to haunt his sorry ASS…

    “In 2002, when the fateful decisions about Iraq were made, there was a President for whom ideology overrode pragmatism, and there here were too many politicians in Washington who spent too little time reading the intelligence reports, and too much time reading public opinion. The lesson of Iraq is that when we are making decisions about matters as grave as war, we need a policy rooted in reason and facts, not ideology and politics.”

    Now we see this attack was planned in advance. And we see Obummer’s hateful ideology against Israel is on full display this week. And we also learned from the Government Accountability Institute earlier this week Obummer skipped many of the Presidential Daily Intelligence Briefings meetings (PDIBs) he attacked GW Bush on in that speech. From January 2009-mid 2011 just 43.8% attendance. Very sad. For the mid-2011-mid 2012 down to 38% attendance. Well Obummer was running around making sure the handout express was fully in gear. So what did the PDIBs know and why did Obummer skip them?

  334. 334

    I’m asking you how you reconcile Jesus’ admonition to love your enemy while at the same time calling for violence and vengeance.

    Jesus also called people like you fools and blind. He definitely was speaking of Lib da dunce in the future. Jesus also called people like you serpents and a generation of vipers. How Jesus spotted you into the future.

    See ya!

  335. 335

    Oh noes… jobless claims hit 382,000 last week. And the week before they added another 2000 upward. This Obummer economy is weally working well.

  336. 336

    Jesus also called people like you fools and blind. He definitely was speaking of Lib da dunce in the future. Jesus also called people like you serpents and a generation of vipers. How Jesus spotted you into the future.

    puddybud, you’re spinning and spinning. This isn’t about me – my soul is apparently consigned to hell already.

    I’m asking about you – how do you reconcile the admonition to love – the highest law – with the vituperation, the calls for vengeance and violence?

  337. 337

    Since Lib da dunce can’t connect the dots…

    Jesus also called people like you fools and blind. He definitely was speaking of Lib da dunce in the future. Jesus also called people like you serpents and a generation of vipers. How Jesus spotted you into the future.

    Puddy repeats

    Jesus also called people like you fools and blind. He definitely was speaking of Lib da dunce in the future. Jesus also called people like you serpents and a generation of vipers. How Jesus spotted you into the future.

    You see if Jesus used those terms so can Puddy!

  338. 338

    Remember we’re told that by libtards hurt feelings of Muslims cause terrorism (reread the US Embassy commentary), then Obummer and the DUMMOCRAPTS spiking da ball bragging about Obummer killing Bin Laden inspired hurt feelings of Muslims.

    Of course HA libtards are asleep as always!

  340. 340

    I’m asking about you – how do you reconcile the admonition to love – the highest law – with the vituperation, the calls for vengeance and violence?

    Puddybud – I really would like for you to illuminate me about what looks like a huge hypocrisy.

    How, and where and when, do you suspend that greatest law, the law to love?

    That’s what I’ve taken away from Christianity when I left it, and I see that law as the only good way forward.
    As a Christian, how do you reconcile that law with calls for violence and vengeance?

    I am honestly interested in an honest answer, not just repeating that you don’t have to listen to me.

  341. 341

    @338

    I think you conflate ‘Muslim’ with ‘terrorist’ or ‘Osama bin Laden’.

    There’s a difference, and it’s important.

    Now, please respond to #340. Thanks.

  342. 342

    I think you conflate ‘Muslim’ with ‘terrorist’ or ‘Osama bin Laden’.

    Nope you Dope. Puddy already placed the comments of right thinking Muslims here. Those comments caused you to grow a new ASSHOLE!

  343. 343

    Please don’t ignore post #340, puddybud.

  344. 344

    I’ve got to head out to my office – I’ll check back in later this morning…I really, honestly hope for a thoughtful, honest response to #340.
    Thanks.

  345. 345

    How many times has Puddy told Lib da schmuck John 10:30 “I and the Father are one.” What God asked Jews to do in the Old Testament was fully supported by Jesus!

    Somehow Lib da dunce can’t get this simple verse!

  347. 347

    Oh noes… Economists for Romney!

    Gary Becker, Nobel laureate
    James Buchanan, Nobel laureate
    Robert Lucas, Nobel laureate
    Robert Mundell, Nobel laureate
    Edward Prescott, Nobel laureate
    Myron Scholes, Nobel laureate

    Plus 643 others from all 50 states. Will the slobberin libtard loving msm report it? Now where is that Economists for Obummer website?

  348. 348

    Did Lib da dunce read post #345? It answers everything that Lib da dunce can’t FATHOM or understand!

  349. 349

    @346
    Puddybud, that billboard in question suggests the violent removal of President Obama.

    I think criticism of it, rightly so, is criticism of right-wing Obama hatred.

    Welcome to the team!

  350. 350

    @345
    I’ve always understood that passage to mean that Jesus was God – support for the trinitarian view, and tying Jesus directly to the God of Abraham, but not meaning that all the OT laws were reaffirmed by Jesus. Interesting.

    Does that mean that you follow Leviticus and Deuteronomy rigorously? Really? I’m just trying to understand here.

    ‘An eye for an eye’ seems to conflict with ‘Love your enemy’ and ‘love your neighbor’ and ‘blessed are the peacemakers’, no?

    So you really see no conflict with calling for vengeance, for attacks on your enemies, with Jesus command to love, to love your enemy?

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