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Drinking Liberally — Seattle

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Our summer and the political campaigns are all heating up. So please join us for a thirst-quenching evening of politics and conversation over a pint at the Seattle Chapter of Drinking Liberally.

We meet every Tuesday at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. Starting time is 8:00pm. Some people show up earlier for Dinner.

Can’t make it to Seattle tonight? Check out one of the other DL meetings over the next week. The Tri-Cities chapter of Drinking liberally meets every Tuesday night. Drinking Liberally Tacoma meets on Thursday. Also on Thursday, the Spokane Chapter is back!

With 226 chapters of Living Liberally, including eleven in Washington state and four more in Oregon, chances are excellent there’s a chapter near you.

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    Republicans claimed Clinton’s tax increase on the wealthy would screw the middle class and put people out of work. Instead the unemployment rate dropped from 6.9% to 3.9%, the deficit fell every year and by the time Clinton left office, we were on track to eliminate the entire national debt.

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    I would have liked to attend, but I was at the airport overseeing the shipment of high-tech exports, mostly American-made by union workers, to Japan.

    Washington Export Lesson # 1:

    In other news, the cherry harvest from Eastern Washington was pretty good this year, with the Raniers being exceptionally sweet. Although cherries don’t bring nearly the price they used to in Japan due to competition from China and the overall economic situation in Japan, they are still a very valuable export crop for the U.S.

    The best Washington cherries are exported to Japan,we don’t even see that quality on the store shelves here in the U.S. A lot of Japanese buy them in gift boxes which are shipped directly to the recipient for delivery within a few days of harvest. A gift box containing a couple pounds of U.S. cherries can cost between $50 USD and $100 USD to Japanese customers. The Japanese often serve cherries, and other fruit, as a desert after meals.

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    I must have missed a news factoid. The conservative talk shows are savaging the concept of maternity leave, that it’s terribly unfair for business if a woman takes off for more than a couple of days after the birth of her child. They are livid that companies might have to hire a temp.
    These are the different themes the conservatives were taking on their shows.
    – Women who want to have kids, should never apply for a job, because that’s not fair to their employers.
    – Businesses should be able to fire any woman who gets pregnant.
    – Businesses shouldn’t have to hire women on the CHANCE they might GET pregnant.

    Seems that talk show Conservatives are pro family, but only if family doesn’t cut into business profits.

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    More news from crazy-land;

    Apparantly Michele Bachman feels left out of the news lately, or doesn’t want Isa to get all the credit for crazy investigations. Her recent campaign is to take up the resources of the the F.B.I., Homeland Security, the Dept. of State, Justice Dept., etc. to investigate “potential” attempts by the Muslim Brotherhood to gain influence in the White House and the U.S. Congress.

    While this has all the hallmarks of a Macarthyite witchhunt, it appears that her real target is Huma Abedin, aid to Hillary Clinton and wife of Anthony Weiner. She’s making the conservitive talk-show insist that Abedin’s security clearance be revoked. When she was challenged to provide evidence of any link between Abedin and the Muslim Brotherhood, her claims were summarized by one writer as follows:

    “So, to connect Abedin to the Muslim Brotherhood, you have to go through her dead father, to the organization he founded, to a man who allegedly supported it, to the organization that man used to lead, to Europe in the 1970s and 1990s, and finally to the Brotherhood.”

    Which still doesn’t explain how Abedin could influence the Congress while married to Weiner, who is Jewish and a staunch defender of aid to Israel.

    Michele Bachmann Points To Huma Abedin As Muslim Brotherhood Infiltrator

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    Sparking demand for their products will create jobs.
    I had that discussion with SerCon. Only if people have disposable money, will demand for products increase.
    He didn’t care, he just wanted that money tax free.

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    The financial disclosure forms Romney filed during his 2008 presidential run showed the former Massachusetts governor was worth as much $250 million at the time. But Romney has never released any tax returns — neither during his campaigns for president and Senate nor during his time as governor — and would not commit to doing so this time around….

    With the tax-filing deadline looming, Republican Senate candidate Mitt Romney yesterday challenged Sen. Edward M. Kennedy to disclose his state and federal taxes to prove he has ‘nothing to hide,’ but another GOP rival, John R. Lakian, called Romney’s move ‘bush league’ ‘It’s time the biggest-taxing senator in Washington shows the people of Massachusetts how much he pays in taxes,” said Romney, a business consultant from Belmont. Romney said he would disclose his own state and federal taxes for the last three years ‘on the very day that Kennedy turns over his taxes for public scrutiny.’ [Boston Globe, 4/19/94]

    heh.

    http://thinkprogress.org/econo.....ax-return/

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    Sparking demand for their products will create jobs.I had that discussion with SerCon. Only if people have disposable money, will demand for products increase.

    And if they produce products people actually want. If they’re producing tract homes in the burbs, they’re probably not going to sell many. But, there’s a demand for low-rise apartments in many cities traditional cores.

    GM’s hired MTV to help them sell cars to young people who don’t want cars:

    Forty-six percent of drivers aged 18 to 24 said they would choose Internet access over owning a car, according to the research firm Gartner.

    “They think of a car as a giant bummer,” said Mr. Martin. “Think about your dashboard. It’s filled with nothing but bad news.”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03.....wanted=all

    Why not, rather than trying to sell them cars they don’t want, have MTV work with you to figure out something you can build that young people actually want?

  13. 13

    @12 If you’ve seen any of the latest batch of Ford commercials (the ones with Mike “Dirty Jobs” Rowe grilling burgers and pitchin’ cars) it would seem Detroit thinks the answer is to add more “technology” to their same old product like adding a hard drive to the stereo and turning the whole thing into a 3,500-pound iPod.

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    @12
    I don’t own a TV. I’m assuming Dirty Jobs is a TV show.

    My idea of a perfect car is a ’72 Porsche 911.

    Radiators? Who needs ’em!

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    Hey look at. that conservative Oklahoma City has gone from being ranked 48th in the nation in 2008 in terms of bicycle friendliness to 35th place today. That must really chaff at bike haters like James Inhofe (R-OK). Inhofe tries to strip out funding for cycling from the federal transportation budget, even when the mayor of Oklahoma’s largest city is calling for it.

    The League of American Bicyclists has increased Oklahoma’s bicycle friendliness ranking from 43rd in 2011 to 35th this year. Even more impressive to note is that in 2008, Oklahoma was ranked 48th. According to the League, this steady improvement is due to increases in “infrastructure and funding that provide on-the-ground bicycle facilities; education and encourage programs that promote cycling; and passage and enforcement of bicycle-friendly laws that make it safe and comfortable for people of all ages to ride.”
    http://www.okcbicyclist.com/20.....-rankings/

    It is nice to see fairly conservative places with Republican Mayors like OKC getting going on cycling. Cycling for basic transportation isn’t and never should have been made into a left-right partisan issue.

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    @12

    The problem with hard-drives in trucks is that the younger people don’t want the truck, they don’t want to drive. They’re not going to suddenly want to drive because the truck has a hard-drive. Ford should try making a few light-rail cars or at the very least partner with Zip Car and ucarshare to put out something young people would actually use on occasion.

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    HA’s chief hemorrhoid threw this up on HA today.

    http://blogs.reuters.com/david.....-piles-up/

    If HA’s chief hemorrhoid and crazed databaze moron ylb actually read something useful, he would have understood. And remember this fool claimed he didn’t like Wall Street Journal opinion pages, but runs to a blog. yNUlTZb! Read the capitals! But, alas, he is HA’s chief hemorrhoid and as stupid as ever!

    Watch now… something like prove it or another crazed databaze attack!

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    Romney said he would disclose his own state and federal taxes for the last three years ‘on the very day that Kennedy turns over his taxes for public scrutiny.’ [Boston Globe, 4/19/94]

    Apparently Kennedy didn’t.

    heh!

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    And you don’t???

    Like gatewaypundit

    Remember ya moron, I never said I don’t run to opinion journal. You did. Another of your useless false equivalences!

    Stupid idiot.

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    Some time back, maybe 3 years, I stated as fact that the US Govt tracked every American. Meaning we effectively lost any and all of our privacy [1].

    Either Lee or Carl, I forget, were skeptical of my claim.

    I just want to reiterate that I was correct. If anything, I’ve probably understated the situation.

    Decent summary.

    http://www.networkworld.com/co.....us-citizen

    Great interview with NSA whistleblower William Binney (30 years, retired 2001, continued as a consultant).

    http://www.democracynow.org/20.....er_william

    Here’s some geek commentary.

    http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4259441

    [1] With the possible exception of people who still cast their ballots at a poll site, depending on procedures.

  25. 25

    So does this mean Willard (R-Money) is a Kennedy in disguise???

    Reaching again? Remember your BDS happened way earlier than your ODS accusation!

    Moron!

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    Remember this? He was focused. “Debbie Downer” now that’s funny. A laser focus. Well Puddy posted this last month.

    Now we see this today. Will da professa place this pertinent story on the Friday Night Funny Pages?

    President Barack Obama’s Jobs Council hasn’t met publicly for six months, even as the issue of job creation dominates the 2012 election.

    But you know Jay Carney says Obummer too busy. But we know Obummer loves golf. And he has a laser focus on his golf game. But this is very telling…

    Then, there’s the fact that some members of the commission have conspicuously declined to endorse him. And that Obama has conspicuously declined to endorse some of their recommendations. And that some of what Obama won’t endorse has been warmly embraced by Republicans, including likely GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney.

    To cap it all off, several of the companies whose CEOs serve on the panel are involved to some extent in outsourcing — a fact that could undercut the ferocious attack Obama and his campaign are mounting on Romney over his alleged ties to the practice.

    But Obummer runs around the country and now the world going to fund raisers and he’s so busy. Well he’s not busy enough to deliver jobs to unemployed workers.

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    Watch now… something like prove it or another crazed databaze attack!

    07/18/2012 at 6:07 pm

    Crazed deranged databaze HA hemorrhoid

    Prove it.
    07/18/2012 at 6:29 pm

    Right on time. Don’t need to prove your words ya moron. Everyone remembers them.

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    And if they produce products people actually want. If they’re producing tract homes in the burbs, they’re probably not going to sell many. But, there’s a demand for low-rise apartments in many cities traditional cores.

    I think there is a demand for both Michael. I haerd a report today that new home construction starts are at their highest level in the last few years.

    Suburban tract housing and urban apts have two distinct buying demographics. People starting families or planning on it in the near future just arent going to move downtown into an urban apt…on the flip side, young, single people tend to want to live an urban lifestyle and are the primary buyers of urban apts(for the most part)…

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    Will this make the Friday Night Funny Pages?

    During a pen and pad briefing with reporters on Capitol Hill, Hoyer was asked if any Democrats are “reconsidering the wisdom” of letting the Bush tax cuts expire at year’s end for the top income earners given the still struggling U.S. economy.

    “I haven’t talked to any who are of that mind,” said Hoyer. “If you talk to economists, they will tell you there are two things that are the most stimulative that you can do — one’s unemployment insurance, the other’s food stamps, okay?”

    Of course you haven’t talked to any whom are of that mind. You talk to your DUMMOCRAPT friends 24×7. No wonder there are no jobs being created.

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    Watch now… something like prove it or another crazed databaze attack!

    07/18/2012 at 6:07 pm

    b cs -t puddymoron -b “prove it” -c

    Right on time. Again, who is puddymoron? My name is Puddybud. You are the crazed deranged databaze ylb HA hemorrhoid.

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    LMFAO@ unemployment insurance and foot stamps as “the most stimulative that you can do”

    ahh yes, the mind of a progressive….creating a nation of slave-like govt dependents…

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    sure glad the spelling police are out in force tonight.

    BTW, did you ever get the starter changed in the Taurus?

    I love Fords!

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    Maybe some streetwalkers on Aurora

    your the one that lives 2 blocks off of aurora, so you should know….

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    ahh yes, the mind of a progressive….creating a nation of slave-like govt dependents…

    07/18/2012 AT 7:09 PM

    ..and then calling it good economic policy!

    LMFAO…..

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    It’s MY CODE. I can do what the fuck I want!

    That’s because you have all the

    fucking time

    in the world sitting on your fat ASS with no job!

  44. 44

    streetwalkers on Aurora

    Are you crazed deranged databaze HA hemorrhoid ylb one of those on Aurora street corners holding a sign “out of work”? Since you know all about

    streetwalkers on Aurora

    It’s one C note, one minute and you’re gone.. – Wow he knows so much!

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    Have you all noticed how Serial Bob is losing heart of late? He hardly puts anything into it any more. There’s no more waiting to pounce on the start of an open thread with a dozen comments posted over the span of a few minutes. No more dialog with Darryl on the poll threads. No more silly spiking of the ball between the 40-yard lines. Damn. To immediately follow his SCOTUS and ACA humiliation with this must have been more than the poor sap’s spirit could take.

    I’ve said before that Bob is the political equivalent of the fair weather sports fan. When he thought his team was a winner, he was here all day getting all smarmy on us and spiking the ball. Now that even dumbfuck Bob can see that he’s hitched his horse to a loser, he somehow finds that he has more important things to do.

    The way things are rapidly going downhill for Romney, we’ll probably have to bid goodbye to Bob long before November rolls around. As he showed us with SCOTUS, he’s not going to stick around when the going gets tough.

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    Heh. keeps “calling” things after the fact..

    Nope you dope… Called it at 6:07PM. Too bad you still are a chronological idiot.

    Remember dancing on Mike Webb’s grave. Oops… he was dead months ago!

    MORON!

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    45. Have you read the New York Post today? No. My eyes are connected to my brain. spews:
    BTW, did you ever get the starter changed in the Taurus?

    Don’t own one asshat. But I’m sure your asshatmobile Taurus is well know by the streetwalkers in various places..

    It’s one C note, one minute and you’re gone..

    07/18/2012 AT 7:23 PM

    just a C note? I didnt know your old lady was that cheap.

    heh, she would have to pay me anyway….

  57. 57

    “Really Steve?”

    I’m just messing with Bob’s mind while he still has one to mess with. Sadly, I suspect he’ll be losing it soon.

    I hope all is well in Puddyville.

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    @43 I sit on my fat ass with no job, and I’m PROUD of it!!! I feel sorry for poor saps like you who work. Republicans don’t work, and neither do I. Why should they have all the fun?

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