Please join us tonight for another evening of politics under the influence at the Seattle Chapter of Drinking liberally. Tonight we’ll go out of our way to ignore the Oregon primary, given that the presidential primaries are settled and there isn’t even a Senate or gubernatorial race happening. But there is plenty of local, regional and national politics to keep us engaged for the evening.
We meet every Tuesday at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. Starting time is 8:00pm, but a few folks show up earlier for dinner.
Notice: Transpartisan Alliance Monthly Salon for May is “Earth’s Natural Resources: Power Down, Power Up, Power Over or Power With?” It’s this Wednesday, May 16, 6:30-9:30 PM in the Conference Room, Intiman Theater, Seattle Center. Panelists are Derik Andreoli-Energy Transitions Northwest (ETNW), David Wright-BCRA Design/Co-Founder-Sustainable Ballard, Rick Forschler-SeaTac City Council, and Joe Tomlinson-Physicist/Independent Researcher.
Can’t make it to Seattle tonight? There are other DL meetings this week. The Tri-Cities chapter of Drinking liberally meets every Tuesday night. Drinking Liberally Tacoma meets this Thursday.
Next Monday there are meetings of the Olympia, Yakima, and Shelton chapters.
With 232 chapters of Living Liberally, including twelve in Washington state and six more in Oregon, chances are excellent there’s a chapter near you.
Speaking of “liberal” . . .
Talk about burying the lede.
Attendees to George W. Bush’s speech on human rights were treated to a complimentary series of water boarding and then whisked off to a black CIA interning facility in eastern Europe where they shall remain until John Yoo issues an opinion the Dark Lord, DICK Cheney, wants.
I can’t make it (as usual), but I hope you discuss Boener’s new tax/spending cut proposal. He wants to make the Bush tax cuts permanant, cut some more taxes on the rich, and cut spending on the poor and middle-class. In other words, class warfare.
You would have thought we would have settle this in the oompromise a few months ago, which put off further grandstanding and brinksmanship on the budget and debt ceiling default until after the election. But Boener wants to renig – of course. He’s threatening to force a default if he doesn’t get his way.
Why? Is he just trying to granstand for the benefit of the tea party folks? Does he really think that giving tax cuts to the wealthy at the expense of the middle-class is a good election-year tactic? Or is he simply trying to distract us from the talking about what a poor predident Romney would be – given his history of forming a gang assault on a gay guy, being a first-class chicken-hawk for himself and his sons during a time of war, or tying the family dog to the top of the car.
Oh, a hearty early congratulations to the Nebraskan GOP for the inevitable Deb Fischer (endorsed by you betcha!) victory in the GOP senate primary.
It is not easy for any state to top the Indiana GOP’s nomination of Mourdock, but the competition for dumbest state in the GOP is fierce and Nebraska is promising to take the title from Indiana in just one week.
Words can not describe.
The asshat troll, in spite of himself, is right not to trust Mitt (R-Money):
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/.....d-hundreds
But our dear asshat troll has no choice but to throw the lever for R-Money due to Mitt’s support of the Ryan plan which helps the “job creators” at the expense of programs for the poor (62 percent of all cuts in the “plan”). You know such bad stuff like food stamps, school lunches, wic, head start, public housing, medicaid and the like.
He like that.
Here you go lads!
Isn’t it interesting that the race baiters here are silent on this? Sharpton, Jackson your heroes??
Get Facts First.
Sharpton, Jackson certainly aren’t my heroes and I wanted Zimmerman to go to court. If we see more things like this, then maybe the shooting was justified and he should go free. Or maybe he got those wounds from a teenager who was fighting for his life. It really doesn’t prove much either way.
The guy in the picture looks like he is constipated.
6 – Wow that like totally excuses the killer of a teenager walking around free for over a month to like spite the kid’s parents to their faces.
Love Florida justice.
Shit! I didn’t recognize Roy Zimmerman without his glasses and I guess the constipated look is his take on R-Money.
another epic session of posting….all…..day….long…..
11 – and for you another day of being an asshat…
you know the rest..
Hmmm… Puddydope and the asshat are tag-teaming….
I’ll leave you two to love fest over each other.
yep, making money, not looking for “free stuff” or handouts, and generally kicking ass…
yep…the usual.
LOL @ YLB, the self proclaimed smartest person here, can barely rub two nickels together…lol
yep that you are.. Going on three years.. wow what a legacy of your short time on earth that is..
you mean as opposed to your legacy of posting all…day….long…and making other people carry you and your family’s burden because you refuse to work…
legacy…..
Obummer D-Money
Whatadipshit… I just came on the blog ya dipshit crazed data-debazed moron!
The truth… cuts like a hot knife in cold butter!!!
Maybe this is what happened to the vast majority of HA libards.
Wow more truths found today…
The hits just keep coming…
Sounds like the SEIU!
And more and more hits…
So now we see those union dues at work!
@5 Looks like M. Rmoney was pretty good at gaming the system. Which brings us to the point I want to make. Conservatives love to talk about how the rich get that way by “working hard.” This is pure nonsense, of course. No wage job pays enough to make anyone “rich” by any conventional understanding of what constitutes “rich.” Nowadays, the most common career path into the upper class is finance, and people who “work” in finance make their money by manipulating money — not by starting companies, creating jobs, or creating new wealth. See, for example, the guys who spent millions (some of which, no doubt, was public subsidies) to lay a fiber optic cable between Chicago and New York so they could execute arbitrage trades a couple millionths of a second faster. (Light travels at a fixed speed, so the only way your supercomputer can beat the other guy’s supercomputer to the punch on the trading floor is by shortening the route that data-carrying light has to travel.) You gotta wonder why they went to all this trouble and expense when it would have been easier and cheaper to move the Chicago Options Board to New York City, or the New York Stock Exchange to Chicago — which makes you strongly suspect these geniuses figured out a way to make taxpayers pay for the whole thing in the name of creating a few hundred temporary construction jobs. Conventional methods of amassing wealth became passe decades ago — virtually as soon as Republicans took over our government with the advent of Reaganism in the 80s — and there’s hardly a millionaire businessman today who isn’t sucking on the public teat in some fashion or other. That’s exactly how government got so big and why we can’t seem to make it smaller or less expensive. Working hard? That’s for saps and suckers. I figured that out years ago. That’s why I don’t work anymore and spend my time staring at a computer screen and occasionally pushing little chits representing so-called “financial assets” (i.e., stock shares) in endless and meaningless circles. That’s how everyone else makes money now, and I figure if you can’t lick ’em, join ’em! Work is history. Look how much richer the rich have gotten since 2007. Look how many of the unemployed are still unemployed. There is no work for workers anymore. There’s only financial games.
@24 Wow, twelve thousand bucks for political office space, WOW!!! I’ll bet that’s more than the Koch brothers pay for political office space in a whole day.
For some reason, pussbutt thinks it’s okay to spend corporate money on political activities that benefit corporations, but not okay for unions to spend union money on political activities that benefit union members. How fucking stupid is that? Sometimes you wonder if pussbutt isn’t just trying to spam these comments to drive traffic away from this blog.
@17 I refuse to work. Other people are carrying the burden of supporting me by making purchases that contribute to corporate profits that trickle down to me in the form of dividends. Whaddya gonna do about it?
P.S., keep driving your gas guzzlers, wingy-dingys, because every time you fill up you’re contributing to my lifestyle of idle sloth.
Wow Obummer’s peeps called it a lie but the Secret Service logs say otherwise… So the bribe to Jeremiah Wright was put forth by Dr. Eric Whitaker close bud of Obummer… vice president of the University of Chicago Medical Center. Remember Michelle Obama had a 6 figger job as Vice President of the University of Chicago Medical Center. Now was her job to ensure the poor didn’t come to University of Chicago Medical Center for health care? And when she left the position was killed.
Notice the lamestream slobbering libtardo media will not cover it.
@30 “close bud of”
Oh yeah, that has complicity written all over it …
Once again Roger Dumb Bunny is a moron.
Who’s father wasn’t college educated?
Willard Mitt Romney
Barack Hussein Obama
We know Mitt worked hard at Harvard, we see his grades. For some reason Obummer is “ashamed” to post his!
Nuff Said sucka
Patriotic Voter Quiz
If you were a patriotic voter in Nebraska, which U.S. Senate candidate would you vote for?
Candidate 1: Education degree, served on school board and in state legislature, no military service.
Candidate 2: Pharmacy degree, served as governor and U.S. Senator, former Navy SEAL who lost leg in combat and recipient of Congressional Medal of Honor.
The average Nebraska Republican will vote for Candidate 1 — and these people call themselves “patriots”?
Roger Dumb Rabbit… If you’d actually search for facts they would slap your sorry ASS!
Hey dipshit Dumb Wabbit… Where in this thread did I say or write that?
Citation
Date & Time
How is spending $4K a month on OWS freakazoids helping SEIU members?
U R STUPID!
Wow now Roger Dumb Wabbit is a physicist. Hey Dumb Wabbit:
How fast does light travel through fiber?
What is the most popular fiber used in computer centers?
No cheating by Googling it!
Don’t worry I won’t wait around for some deflection answer. Time to sleep.
its hard to refuse work when nobody wants to hire you.
Nothing – because nature will take its course eventually.
…besides, you are already irrelevant.
Patriotic Voter quiz part II
Which 2008 presidential candidate volunteered for the Navy and served in Vietnam – including time as a POW?
Which 2008 presidential candidate refused to volunteer for any US Armed forces?
and guess which candidate the progressive “patriots” voted for?
Wanna keep making a fool out of yourself old man?
From earlier today…
Oh, god, the stupidest man alive has arrived – Hi puddles!
So, given your superior analytic skills, puddles, tell us – how did the Burgess Shale form? and where did all those fantastical creatures come from, and go?
Did all that wonderful oil we’re burning come from fossilized algae deposited tens and hundreds of millions of years ago, or did god put it there 6000 for us to find and use as we please?
Did Jesus ride a dinosaur? How did Noah keep the Velociraptors from eating the Emperor Penguins? Did god create dinosaur fossils just to test our faith? Or did the devil do it? [Ed: WARNING to thinking people, link leads to ‘answers in genesis, which WILL make you stupid]
While your at it, please spew some more false equivalences and bash a few straw men, oh, and please provide us some of those cool linky-things that don’t go anywhere you say they go – I love those.
I love when puddles comments here!
Mitt Romney psychopath or fuckin’ lier?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ure=relmfu
The question answers itself.
Are you really that stupid? Or are you just so hatefully blind, so frothy over the notion that people don’t want to be cogs in some billionaire neofeudalist’s money machine, that you will say ANYTHING that you think might derail an honest discussion over the problems that this society faces?
Your stupidity is painful to read. I would love to meet you and see firsthand what such manifest stuuuuupid looks like on the hoof. I l find medical oddities so interesting.
That’s where I always get with republicans – stupid or lying?
Republicans are a mutant strain of human in which one or more of the genes necessary for empathy and/or critical thought has been inactivated.
@35 “Where in this thread did I say or write that? Citation Date & Time”
@24, 5/15/2012, 9:34 PM
re 36: Why do you have a picture of a marble on your comments?
@36 How the hell would I know? I’m not an engineer. You’re the computer expert, so tell us, does computer data traveling in a fiber optic cable get to its destination faster in a shorter cable? No cheating now …
@38 Which war did you volunteer to fight in?
@39 The author of Genesis, who apparently was human and therefore fallible, guessed the world was 6,000 years old. Probably to make sure nobody who could contradict him was still around (as opposed to saying the world was 60 years old). Based on best available science, it appears he was off by roughly 13.7 billion years, but that’s actually not so bad given the state of science then. Reading the Bible is like reading about Caesar’s military campaigns; makes for interesting reading, but as a technical manual it’s a bit out of date, as our knowledge and capabilities have advanced a bit since then
When I run for public office, I will let you know.
nice try at deflection…fail.
@49 “When I run for public office, I will let you know.”
Don’t bother, I can draw my own conclusions.
“I would love to meet you and see firsthand what such manifest stuuuuupid looks like on the hoof. I find medical oddities so interesting.”
Nice one, Doc.
“Republicans are a mutant strain of human in which one or more of the genes necessary for empathy and/or critical thought has been inactivated.”
Eh, and I thought they’d simply failed to evolve along with the rest of us due to the failure of the genes required for empathy and/or critical thought to have ever activated. But I’m not married to that idea so I’m open to consideration of your mutant strain hypothesis.
Yeah they would rather cog members of the DA, an organization assisted by none other than Obummer’s marionette master George Soros!
This Lib the moron lives up to his billing.
Well you wrote post #25. Making wild ass peculations on who and what caused fiber to be laid and how it was paid.
Sure, I do know the speed of light through fiber, the time it takes for a data packet from some rich NY Wall Street loving DUMMOCRAPT to some rich CME loving DUMMOCRAPT in Chicago.
Remember Obummer D-Money
Remember Obummer D-Money
puddles circles around and jumps shark, again!
Two links to George Soros in one morning – how blessed are we?!
Now, you had asked what would SEIU union members get out of an office (which seemed reasonably priced – were you ‘trying’ to make a ‘point’ about that, too?) in which OWS worked, and I retorted, in part…
Now, you stop talking about SEIU and OWS, and move onto…wait for it…GEORGE SOROS!
What a masterful pivot, what a breathtaking obfuscation, what brilliant avoidance of the original topic – and weaving around and throwing Soros back at me – POW! Amazing!
puddybud, bringing you straw man Soros dolls in the most astounding places!
Keep up the work – I love your oeuvre!
@48
This issue isn’t Genesis, per se, but rather modern day humans who believe, fervently, that it is a literally true account of ‘creation’, and beyond that, that such believers have a deeply flawed ability to think critically, and therefore any of their statements needs be examined with extra rigor and skepticism.
And they often look like fools when their 6000-year-old earth Young-Earth-Creationism is discussed in the light of day.
Moreover, the notion of the 6000 year old earth is not something inherent in the Bible, as you suggest, but rather the result of a seventeenth century Irish bishop, James Ussher, trying to use his particular Bible as a literal accounting of creation. His years of studying resulted in his declaration that creation began…
What a wasted life.
So puddles, my questions stand – and you very obviously have been avoiding them – come on – let your freak flag fly!
Oops – didn’t give the link to Ussher wiki page, for those interested. Here it is.
Liberal lab-tech, don’t you have some beakers to go clean?
Your daily christian bashing is getting old…time for you to pick up a new schtick…
Here’s what puddles was railing about the other day:
The link he included was this, and goes to the WSJ (should I be like puddles and call that ‘favorite of fascists’ or just let it be?) – linked to a hit-piece that attacked Obama for pointing out the Willard Rmoney’s ‘national finance co-chair’ was an absolute pig, whom the WSJ portrayed merely as a…
The truth about Frank VanerSloot can be found all over the place, despite his practice of threatening to sue anyone who mentions his name in the press.
Glenn Greenwald has written about him. Maddow last night indicated that VanderSloot was invited on her show anytime, and that he had in fact contacted her at the last minute to come on by phone, which she declined, but offered him a spot live and in person anytime. Here’s an Idaho blog that covers him, bravely. Here’s Jody May-Chang’s homepage, who covers VanderSloot, and I believe is in the midst of being sued by him for talking about him.
VanderSloot is a nasty character, running a predatory pyramid scheme, er, “multi-level marketing” business – think Amway – that is particularly prevalent in Mormon communities – high concentrations in Utah and Wyoming. They are exploitative, with an army of salespeople feeding money upward. And Mitt loves those business owners. Here’s a Mother Jones piece about the ‘industry’ and its ties to Mittens.
The big point is, puddles was trying to inject Fox/WSJ faux-outrage into the discourse here, about appropriate coverage of some under-the-radar billionaire asshole in Idaho who loves him some mittens. This after every possible link to Obama was exhaustively dissected by the right and help up as deeply, deeply nefarious – remember Bill Ayer’s living room?
Come on puddles, let’s discuss Frank VanderSloot. You started the discussion – let’s continue.
Been ignoring the comments for a while. The amateur ignorance of the trolls is tooneasy. But the PROFESSIONAL ignorance of Puddy is back.
I see you’re flogging Klein’s book. You know, the guy who wrote a book ‘proving’ Hillary Clinton is a lesbian. The guy who got caught making shit up in both his Kennedy books. On preponderance of the evidence, rational people ignore him.
But he’s a great marketer. He knows there is a market segment that will buy any poorly sourced er…made up theory and an industry of radio that will help him sell books to Puddy.
Then go away. I believe you’ll find like minded fascists over at Stefan’s sucky little blog. You and pudge could make beautiful music together.
I suppose you have to write that, because no one else around here would.
Delusional, thy name is max
BTW, maxie, are you a YEC, too?
Color me surprised.
John Derbyshire unleashes his inner racist. Of course we already knew that Republicans have issues with “raisins in the sun”. (h/t to Driftglass)
Of course, an “underperforming minority”, our very own “raisin in the sun”, will soon show up to prove himself to be at least a useful tool for his masters.
Intrade now has Scott Walker at 82% likely to win recall election. Man, his numbers are climbing faster than Obama’s numbers are falling.
Wonder how long before WI is moved into the Toss-Up column for November?
@65 yawn
There’s more to the Wisconsin recall election than Scott Walker. Even if Walker retains office, if only one of the four GOP state senators also on the recall ballot loses, Walker will be neutered.
@53 “Making wild ass peculations on who and what caused fiber to be laid and how it was paid.”
I did no such thing. I know who laid that fiber and why, and I said who and why, jackass. If you read a fucking newspaper once in a while, you might have a clue about what’s going on in the world.
@ 67
Big ‘if’.
Smaller if: If GOP takes four US Senate seats to get to 51, Reid will be neutered.
How do you know Walker will win?
http://www.todaystmj4.com/news.....60925.html
Because liberals are acting like liberals over it. Already.
http://politi.co/KsOshx
Republicans believe in doing the same thing expecting different results. They are insane. Anyone who votes for them has been duped or is insane as well.
69 – The worst crime a right winger can commit is getting caught:
http://www.jsonline.com/news/s.....98943.html
Getting caught hurts the right wing cause.. But these days… Getting caught so much only makes people shrug.. So I guess its open season..
And here’s another
http://chippewa.com/news/local.....963f4.html
Right wingers just being right wingers..
Facts??? What are those to a right winger??
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....19253.html
Right wingers are big into “conscience” these days:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/05/15/kansas/
Notice the helmet hair and the moral scold mug.
The rights of women over their own person?? Not a fucking chance.
Headlines:
California, the ninth largest economy in the world, resorts to austerity
Uhh.. Not so fast.. Brown is bypassing the hamstrung legislature which needs a supermajority to pass tax increases to go straight to the people.
If the people are duped, compromised by right wing propaganda and other shenanigans well austerity, i.e. madness, it is. It’s worked out just fantastic for the UK so far.
Otherwise, it’s just common sense.
@61
In other words, hatred of others is ok when you’re a progressive…thanks for verifying what we already knew.
Now, get back to cleaning those beakers and flasks…
Oh checkmake… Did you listen to the tapes he made with Jeremiah Wright today?
They were priceless and Wright says a lot about Obummer and Whitaker!
HA HA HA HA HA!
KAAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBBBLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMO
Wow, I read the “Glenn Greenwald” piece on VanDerSloot. His bullying tactics? So you excuse George Soros of his bullying tactics? So you use a leftist I will use a righty! And why does George Soros hide his waelth overseas? Why does George Soros his behind closed events with police stopping the free press?
Cry me a river lib the moron!
@77
Puuuuuuuuddddddyyyyyyyyy…..
Just ’cause you brought it up, I just listened to the tapes posted on Hannity’s site. Can you point me to the one where he says anyone offers him money to stay quiet? Maybe listen to this one wow, that’s a barn burner. After Faux news tried to make Wright a focal point, Obama asked him to “please” stay out of the spotlight.
As usual, your ‘kablamo’ is a fzzzzzzzzt.
So why are all the tapes Hannity released edited? Hmmmm? Why not just put the whole conversation up? Hmmmm? Minute here, mostly without the questions, 25 seconds here. The only voice claiming bribery is Klein’s. Hmmmmmmmmmmm……
Yawn. Think I’ll go watch smurf cartoons with the little one. It’s deeper than a Puddy comment.
Well first you leftists said Klein was lying. Now the tapes appear and all are aghast.
First tape… Was he aware that Eric Whitaker had offered you money! And Obummer asks Wright to not appear at the NAACP or the National Press Club and not do any more public speaking until after the November election as it will hurt the campaign if you do that.
Glad you like watching little blue peeps. They are like you blue through and through cartoon characters.
KAAAAAAAAAABBBBBBLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMOOOOO
More for you checkmate
See ya!
Study Says Texas Executed Wrong Man
A 6-year study by a law professor and 12 law students has concluded that Texas executed an innocent look-alike in 1989 for a 1983 gas station robbery.
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_n.....arlos?lite
Roger Rabbit Commentary: As long as you never set foot in Texas, you have nothing to worry about, unless they try to extradite you.