Join us at the Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally for an evening of politics under the influence. Officially, we start at 8:00 pm at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. Some folks show up early for Dinner.
Tonight’s activity…we will “veto every single beer”…
…with ill-marks, because it’s a Google.
If you find yourself in the Tri-Cities area this evening, check out McCranium for the local Drinking Liberally. Otherwise, check out the Drinking Liberally web site for dates and times of a chapter near you.
ByeByeGOP spews:
This is all we need – another inarticulate republican asshole who will butcher the English language!
Robert Keto spews:
Goldy –
Do you have a take on Virgin’s PI column today?
Rick D. spews:
Just a mis-speak, and he immediately corrected himself. Unlike some jackass that thought he’d campaigned in 57 states, with one more left to go. Dan Quayle finally gets that little trophy of shame from around his head and has put it around the neck of the Chitown Assclown.
Here is the messiah trying to enter an occupied porta potty and it takes a staffer to point out that the “red” up flag means no and “green” means go. Interesting how Goldy missed this one, but I’m sure he’ll correct it on his next thread.
Needless to say, Barry O’Bama isn’t ready for prime time.
Daddy Love spews:
What has McCain been “drinking liberally” to make his teeth that sickly yellow?
ByeByeGOP spews:
I agree Puddydick posting as Rick D. FlipFlop McCain is NOT ready for prime time. In fact – prime time is WAY past JohnBoy’s bed time! HE HE!
Monterey spews:
“That isn’t the Jim Johnson I knew…”
“That isn’t the Countrywide I previously criticized…”
YLB spews:
4 – That’s been discussed I think. His teeth were knocked out by the North Vietnamese, so that’s his denture work.
YLB spews:
The future:
$3.83 (Canadian) for a week of driving:
http://wheels.ca/reviews/article/256058
YMMV
Roger Rabbit spews:
Roger Rabbit rarely attends DL because it’s a long hop from Green Lake Park to Montlake and it seems like every aggressive driver in this town is looking for a rabbit to run over. We need higher gas prices to get these yahoos off our streets.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@4 He hasn’t brushed ’em since he was captured. That’s why his audiences keel over when he opens his mouth.
"Hannah" spews:
RR @ 9 hahaha :) Too much road rage nowadays, huh?
Roger Rabbit spews:
@11 We rabbits were here before you humans, and we’ll still be here when your species is gone. After you humans are extinct, rabbits are gonna run this place, and I’ll be their king.
"Hannah" spews:
@12 –
Oh King Roger Rabbit…bet that sounds good to your rabbit ears :)
Roger Rabbit spews:
@8 The interesting thing about oil is that it began replacing coal as the world’s primary energy source about 100 years ago even though it cost several times as much as coal because energy consumers were willing to pay a premium for supply reliability. Coal production was vulnerable to supply disruptions because of frequent labor unrest.
To expand on that a bit, coal is a labor-intensive industry, and as of 1900 about 70% of the cost of coal was due to labor costs. In the worldwide economic depression of the 1890s, coal operators tried to cope with declining coal prices by slashing wages by 25% or more and boosting production quotas, which triggered a long-running series of coal miner strikes in all the major coal producing regions. By contrast, oil is a capital-intensive industry in which labor costs never have been more than about 10% of production costs, so oil companies could afford to pay their workers well and the oil industry was not disrupted by the labor problems that beset coal producers. This labor tranquility was a major reason for the shift from coal to oil.
Today, oil is experiencing the supply disruptions that caused the world’s economies to switch from coal to oil a century ago. In this case, the unreliability of supply is caused by other factors, not labor problems, but the net effect is the same: Energy consumers can’t count on either stable prices or stable supplies of oil. This has the potential to trigger a shift from oil to other energy source(s), as happened a century ago. As Yogi Berra would say, we may be looking at deja vu all over again.
Within a couple of years, carmakers will begin marketing practical plug-in electric cars. They will initially be more expensive than comparable gasoline-powered cars, but within reach of many consumes, and their prices should come down over time. The electricy cost of powering these cars is currently comparable to gasoline costing $1.00 a gallon at the pump, so they will have a significant fuel cost advantage over gas-engine cars right out of the starting gate.
The first question that comes to mind is where the electricity will come from. The best answer I can give is that natural gas, while a nonrenewable resource like oil, is not nearly as far along the depletion curve as oil is. We have sufficient supplies of natural gas in the ground both for electricity generation and as feedstock for fuel cells to provide us with a transition energy source for several decades. And expanding North American natural gas production offers the added advantage of providing investment opportunities for greedy rabbits who want to live like Republicans.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@13 Don’t forget to kiss my cute cottontail when you bow and grovel before my throne.
2cents spews:
Did Timmy lie?
Today is the deadline for reporting May contributions and lo and behold no Eyman contributions to I-985.
YLB spews:
14 – Gasification of forestry/ag wastes and municipal solid waste could be an important future source of “renewable” gas for electricity from highly efficient fuel cells.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@17 There are lots of things that could contribute to the energy mix. The most immediately promising is conservation. If you replace a car getting 15 mpg with one getting 30 mpg, the effect on your pocketbook will be the same as gas prices dropping from $4 to $2.
The free market sometimes does a lousy job of steering people to rational behavior. The cheap gas of the 90s encouraged people to buy gas guzzlers. The resulting profligate consumption is now having broad economic and social consequences for those same people, and for everyone else. People like Mark the Hummer should be pilloried, and we should tax the shit out of gas guzzlers when gas is cheap to discourage people from buying them.
The oil spikes of the 70s drastically increased our energy efficiency. The current spike will also lead to increased efficiency and renewed conservation efforts, and that’s a good thing. The U.S. vehicle fleet turns over roughly every 7 years, and as a result of today’s high gasoline prices we’re going to have more fuel-efficient cars on our roads 5 years from now. If the current spike brings plug-in electric cars and alternative fuels to market, the effect on oil consumption will be even more dramatic.
A prolonged period of very high oil prices, while obviously bad for the near-term economy, is certain to accelerate the development of alternative-fuel and technological solutions to our oil dependency, and on balance, over the long run the net effect of what we’re going through now may prove to be very positive.
It’s unfortunate that it takes the club of economic suffering to force people to do what their intellects should tell them to do. You humans are stupid. We rabbits will be around longer than you because we know how to survive on renewable resources like grass, lettuce, and carrots.
YUMMY!! I LOVE CARROTS!!!
Roger Rabbit spews:
@17 (continued) Don’t overlook farting Republicans.
Another Smart liberal spews:
This is all we need – another inarticulate republican asshole who will butcher the English language!
I hear you. These assholes will be lucky to carry 1 out of the 59 states. Geeesh
Another Smart liberal spews:
Roger Rabbit rarely attends DL because it’s a long hop from Green Lake Park to Montlake and it seems like every aggressive driver in this town is looking for a rabbit to run over. We need higher gas prices to get these yahoos off our streets.
06/10/2008 at 8:08 pm
We should hope. We all know light rail hasn’t.
Jane Balough's Dog spews:
Did Timmy lie?
Today is the deadline for reporting May contributions and lo and behold no Eyman
Well shit he is probably still counting. Unlike libs he gets a lot of money from US individuals who are tired of getting mugged by the tax man. Give him a month. hehehehe
Roger Rabbit spews:
@20 The last thing this blog needs is another wingnut pretending to be a liberal. I understand why they don’t want anyone to know they’re Republicans, though.
Roger Rabbit spews:
@22 Oh yes, please give Timmy all your money, dog! All $1 of it. And the only reason you have that much is because you lifted it from Jane’s purse.
Rick D. spews:
These drinking liberally meetings are being held to build up their alcohol tolerance for when they wake up on that November Wednesday morning and realize that Dino Rossi is the Govnah of WA and McCain is the Commander in chief.
Then, the real drinking will commence for liberals…combined with massive intake of anti-depressants of course.
Just as John Lennon sang ,”Whatever gets you through the night” is alright, is alright…..
4 more years!!
P.S. Special Roger Rabbit sighting at 1:18 of the clip too. The identity of the other male rabbit remains unkown, but has been alleged to be Darryl.
Daddy Love spews:
So what will YOU do when you “wake up on that November Wednesday morning and realize that Christine Gregoire is the Govnah of WA and Barack Obama is the Commander in chief?”
rhp6033 spews:
Roger R;
Interesting take on the coal vs. oil. Of course, it depends upon what is being powered – coal-powered automobiles never really caught on, for some reason ;-). I recall reading that the first automobiles were able to get their gas free from the refiners, as gasoline was a by-product of the process of refining kerosine, which was widely used in lamps.
I remember growing up in the South in the 1960’s, and most schools & factories used coal to fire their furnaces. Older homes had coal furnaces also, and those homes had their own coal bins in their basement, and would get regular deliveries from the supplier. But electricity won over coal because it was cleaner and easier to work with (you didn’t have to shovel coal into the furnace as part of your daily chores). The final nail in the coffin for coal as a primary energy source was the Clean Air Act, which made most coal furnaces in private homes and small businesses illegal to operate without major and expensive replacement of equipment. This meant that coal was used as an energy source only by the biggest consumers – power plant operators and very large factories, who primarily used the coal to generate electricity.
I still remember coming home from college in the mid-1970’s, and realizing – for the first time – that I could see all the way across the city to the mountains beyond. Although growing up in that town, it was the first time I had ever been able to see through the pollution, previously created mostly by thousands of coal furnaces.
I keep hearing Repubicans talking about the need to make it easier to use “clean coal”. No such thing – some coal has less sulpher and other pollutants than others. But coal is inherently less clean to burn than oil. Of course, if you confine coal burning to high-efficiency power plants to create energy, then you might have an acceptable trade-off.
ByeByeGOP spews:
Laura Bush killed a guy.