Drinking Liberally

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E. Stop on by for some hoppy beer and hopped up conversation.

I’m not sure what kind of crowds we’ll get the next two Tuesdays (or if the Ale House is even open Christmas night and New Year’s Day,) so if you suffer from the DL DT’s, you better come by tonight and drink your fill.

Not in Seattle? Liberals will also be drinking tonight in the Tri-Cities. A full listing of Washington’s thirteen Drinking Liberally chapters is available here.


  1. 2

    ArtFart spews:

    Hmmm…interesting to see how the Westin employees held a party to celebrate their new contract…at the Hilton.

    The idea was to stir up some interest among the Hilton employees. Maybe some of these folks should come talk to the people working at the Montlake Alehouse.

    On the other hand…you’re right. The Westin does have a nice bar. A couple of ‘em, in fact. Perhaps some, er, personal research wouldn’t be a half bad idea.

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    IAFF Fireman,

    I think Mr. Rabbit would take issue with you over the “cheap labor liberal” phrase. He often refers to “cheap labor conservatives” as being the Devil incarnate. Roger,can a liberal be “cheap labor liberal?”


    Watch the drinking and driving. The cops are looking for every revenue opportunity they can find, and a drunk driving rap is a definite son-of-a-bitch on your auto insurance. Not to mention the legal costs, etc., etc.

  3. 4

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Roger Rabbit rarely attends DL but if Darcy ever shows up I might come to get another hug! Rabbits LOVE to be hugged! Darcy hugs good. http://tinyurl.com/opkdy The brand X candidate doesn’t hug worth shit, in fact, after 3 years in office sheriff blowdry hasn’t hugged a rabbit at all — at the rate he’s going, he’ll have caught Gary Ridgeway in less time (a mere 20 years) than it’s taking him to hug a rabbit. How can he solve America’s problems when he can’t even figure out how to hug a rabbit? It’s time for a change in the 8th C.D. So, when is Darcy coming to DL? (slobber)

  4. 5

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @3 “Roger,can a liberal be ‘cheap labor liberal?'”

    I don’t have time to fool around with theoretical speculations like this when there are so many real problems to deal with.

  5. 7

    Puddybud spews:

    Politically Incorrect asked: “Cheap Labor Liberals”?

    Absolutely: Mattel Toy Corporation. 18.2 million chinese toys recalled to date.

    I see you don’t pay attention to the details.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Ever heard of Premier “Election Solutions”? Perhaps you know them better as “Diebold Election Systems”. The criminal has changed his name hoping he won’t be recognized …

    Anyhow, Colorado’s SOS has decertified 3 of the 4 vendors who supply voting equipment to that state. His comments are, to say the least, interesting:

    “Colorado Voting Machines Tossed Out

    “Associated Press Writer

    “DENVER – Colorado’s secretary of state has declared many of the state’s electronic voting machines to be unreliable ….

    ” … Secretary of State Mike Coffman … met with a task force of state lawmakers to discuss what Colorado should do the day after he decertified three of the four voting equipment manufacturers allowed in the state …. Either of Coffman’s solutions mentioned Tuesday would have to be approved by the Legislature. …

    “In his announcement Monday, Coffman said Colorado’s actions would have national repercussions. ‘What we have found is that the federal certification process is inadequate,’ he said. The decertification decision … cited problems with accuracy and security ….

    “Coffman would not comment Monday on what his findings mean for past elections, despite his conclusion that some equipment had accuracy issues. …

    “Coffman announced in March that he had adopted new rules for testing electronic voting machines. He required the four systems used in Colorado to apply for recertification. The systems are manufactured by Premier Election Solutions, formerly known as Diebold Election Systems; Hart InterCivic; Sequoia Voting Systems; and Election Systems and Software. …

    “In Ohio, the state that narrowly gave President Bush his win in 2004, a review concluded last week that electronic voting machines are vulnerable to security breaches and human error. Gov. Ted Strickland said Monday that the state must act on the study’s findings by November’s vote. ‘This country has gone through two presidential elections where there have been, I believe, legitimate concerns raised about the fairness and the integrity of those elections,’ he told The Columbus Dispatch. ‘I don’t think we should go through a third presidential election and have those questions out there.'”

    Quoted under fair use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://www.newsday.com/news/na.....9310.story

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: It’s obvious chimpface never got more than 30% of the vote. (Yes, Virginia, 29.8% of the American electorate IS that stupid as the troll comments in this thread attest.) To make sure something nothing like this ever happens again, we should vote on paper ballots, and hand-count them.

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    Jane Balough's Dog spews:

    ArtFart says:

    Hmmm…interesting to see how the Westin employees held a party to celebrate their new contract…at the Hilton.

    Well of course. The Westin is a union hotel so their service is overpriced and it sucks.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    “Ohio Elections Official Calls Machines Flawed


    “CINCINNATI — All five voting systems used in Ohio, a state whose electoral votes narrowly swung two elections toward President Bush, have critical flaws that could undermine the integrity of the 2008 general election, a report commissioned by the state’s top elections official has found.

    “’It was worse than I anticipated,’ the official, Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner, said of the report. ‘I had hoped that perhaps one system would test superior to the others.’

    “At polling stations, teams working on the study were able to pick locks to access memory cards and use hand-held devices to plug false vote counts into machines. At boards of election, they were able to introduce malignant software into servers.

    “Ms. Brunner proposed replacing all of the state’s voting machines …. She wants all counties to use optical scan machines that read and electronically record paper ballots that are filled in manually by voters. She called for legislation and financing to be in place by April so the new machines can be used in the presidential election next November. …

    “Florida, another swing state with a history of voting problems, is also scrapping touch-screen machines and switching to optical scan ones for the election. Such systems have gained favor because experts say they are more reliable than others and, unlike most touch screens, they provide a paper trail for recounts.

    Ms. Brunner … ordered the study as part of a pledge to overhaul voting after problems made headlines for hours-long lines in the 2000 and 2004 elections and a scandal in Cuyahoga County … that led to the convictions of two elections workers on charges of rigging recounts. …

    “The study released Friday found that voting machines and central servers made by Elections Systems and Software; Premier Election Solutions, formerly Diebold; and Hart InterCivic; were easily corrupted.

    “The $1.9 million federally financed study assembled corporate and academic teams to conduct parallel assessments. A bipartisan group of 12 election board directors and deputy directors acted as advisers.

    “The academic team, made up of faculty members and students from Cleveland State University, Pennsylvania State, the University of California, Santa Barbara, and the University of Pennsylvania, said systemic change was needed.”

    Quoted under fair use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12.....38;emc=rss

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: Now you know how a monkey got to be president.

  9. 11

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Democrats, unlike Republicans, don’t have to cheat. All we need to win is an honest election. No sane person would vote Republican.

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    Jane Balough's Dog spews:


    Liberals hate voting machines because they can’t mess with the paper ballots. Remember rule number one: Democrats always cheat.

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    YLB spews:

    Hmmm. The mangy cur is back. Maybe he can get the ACVR to investigate the crappy voting machines in CO and OH.

    Damn! I keep forgetting that outfit was phony like all the rest of cur’s blather about vote fraud.

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    Jane Balough's Dog spews:


    You guys are against voter ID so by default you are guilty of covering for voter fraud. There is nothing more that needs to be said.

  13. 16

    BS spews:

    I wonder how they are going to fit “When Edwards had an affair with another woman while his wife was battling breast cancer, nobody died” on a bumper sticker?

  14. 17

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I haven’t endorsed a candidate yet. I think this is a two-person race and the choices are limited to Clinton and Obama.

    There is much not to like about Clinton, especially if you believe (as I do) that corporate power is the greatest enemy of both our democracy and the middle class. It’s hard to endorse her knowing the financial bedrock of her campaign is the same corporations and CEOs who backed Bush. That tells you, in a nutshell, who she will work for if she makes it to the Oval Office.

    But Krugman is right about Obama. He’s hopelessly naive to think he can negotiate with neo-Nazis. They have to be crushed.

    I’m leaning toward holding my nose and voting for Hillary in the Feb. 8 caucus. This is the wrong time and place for youthful idealism. What we need for the next 8 years is a bitch wearing Doc Martens.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @13 The ACVR went out of business when they quit paying the rent on their 2″ x 3″ mailbox in a Dallas strip mall.

  16. 19

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @15 A dog who committed voting fraud is lecturing us about voting fraud? Now I’ve seen everything!

  17. 21

    headless lucy spews:

    re 16: Well it definitely won’t fit next to “Mike Huckabee’s son fucked a dog in the ass and then hung it.”

    …at Boy Scout camp. Wonder what kind of a merit badge he got for that?

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    proud leftist spews:

    BS says:
    “Hey, all this hate-talk is kinda fun.”

    Hate-talk is your natural venue. If you haven’t figured that out yet, then, my poor son, you need to find yourself. Get in touch with your inner hater. You ain’t a lover, man, you’re a hater. Embrace it, go with it. It’s okay, you’re a Republican.

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    proud leftist spews:

    Didn’t Mike Huckabee’s son hang a dog (and didn’t the good governor use his political power to ensure his son faced no criminal consequences)? Maybe Huckabee’s boy could come out here and dispatch the cur that pollutes this blog. Jane’s Dog has mange, fleas, and distemper. Somebody needs to put the poor thing out of its misery.

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    proud leftist spews:

    Roger @ 17
    I have to disagree with you, even if you might be a most delightful and furry animal. Hillary is a most adept, intelligent, and decent human being. If she is the Democratic candidate, I will vote for her. But, it is time for some idealism on the left. She has moved too far to the right for my tastes. Obama, Edwards, Richardson–I prefer any of them to Hillary. Hell, my wife and father favor Biden. Dodd doesn’t look too bad, either. Frankly, this nation doesn’t need Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton. It just ain’t Hillary’s time. This election is ours–let’s get someone we really want, not someone we just think is electable.

  21. 29

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The Difference Between Liberals and Conservatives

    When I post a comment like #22, I put an asterisk on it that says, “Hey! Just kidding!”

  22. 30

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @23 That’s not hate-talk, it’s reporting the news:

    “As Mike Huckabee gains in the polls, the former Arkansas governor is finding that his record in office is getting more scrutiny. One issue likely to get attention is his handling of … allegations that one of his sons was involved in the hanging of a stray dog at a Boy Scout camp in 1998. The incident led to the dismissal of David Huckabee, then 17, from his job as a counselor ….

    “It also prompted the local prosecuting attorney … to write a letter to the Arkansas state police seeking help investigating whether David … had violated state animal-cruelty laws. …

    ” … John Bailey, then the director of Arkansas’s state police, tells NEWSWEEK that Governor Huckabee’s chief of staff and personal lawyer both leaned on him to write a letter officially denying the local prosecutor’s request. Bailey … said he viewed the … intervention as improper and terminated the conversation. Seven months later, he was called into Huckabee’s office and fired. … One reason Huckabee cited was ‘I couldn’t get you to help me with my son when I had that problem’ ….

    “‘Without question, [Huckabee] was making a conscious attempt to keep the state police from investigating his son,’ says I. C. Smith, the former FBI chief in Little Rock ….

    “The Animal Legal Defense Fund got an anonymous fax that summer alleging that David Huckabee and another youth had been involved in the hanging of a stray dog at the camp …. A local animal-rights activist, Joyce Hillard, later contacted the camp director. Notes of Hillard’s report to the defense fund read, ‘Boys confessed & were fired. Dir. is making excuses, saying dog was sic & boys were putting him out of his misery.’ (The director told NEWSWEEK only that a stray dog was ‘put down’ and that the counselors were fired for violating the Scout credo to be ‘kind.’) The father of the other counselor was quoted by the Arkansas Democrat Gazette … as saying that his son found the dog ‘hung over a limb and choking.’ David Huckabee did not respond to requests for comment. … A campaign official says David ‘regrets’ the incident and notes that he later made Eagle Scout.”

    Quoted under fair use; for complete story and/or copyright info see http://www.newsweek.com/id/78241

    Roger Rabbit Commentary: The Boy Scouts sure have changed! If David Huckabee had done that back when I was a Scout, he not only wouldn’t have made Eagle Scout, the Scoutmaster would have ripped off his merit badges, planted a boot in his hindquarters, and ejected him from the Troop.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @26 I ain’t made up my mind yet. After all, I’m only a dumb bunny, and as everyone knows, rabbits are kinda slow. Maybe I’ll support Dodd. At a minimum, he deserves my vote simply for what he did yesterday.

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    Puddybud spews:

    Why do democrats lie:


    Fair use claws and copyleft to the URL holder.

    “The National Archives is withholding from the public about 2,600 pages of records at President Clinton’s direction, despite a public assurance by one of his top aides last month that Mr. Clinton “has not blocked the release of a single document.”

    At a presidential debate in October, Mrs. Clinton was questioned about language in the 2002 letter that discussed the possibility of withholding some records about the former first lady. Mr. Clinton later called the questions “breathtakingly misleading” and complained bitterly that his wife had been sandbagged.”

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    MISTER Roger Rabbit indeed! Boy, for a failed attorney, you sure are one arrogant son-of-a-bitch! Have you ever had a real job, Roger, or have you sucked-off the public dole your entire life?

    You’re no more enititled to any respect than you are entitled to the pension you’re drawing. You really are a pathetic fuck with no life.

    BTW, I’m not a Republican. When have I ever said anything good about the Republicans or used their propaganda? Not on this blog or anywhere else, that’s where!!


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    I’ll answer the question I put to Roger “The Asshole” Rabbit: Yes. there are cheap labor liberals just like there are cheap labor conservatives.

    Roger, fuck you and everthing you stand for, you arrogant and worthless piece of shit!! It would be great if you and all your relatives were to die and be removed from the gene pool.