Drinking Liberally

The Seattle chapter of Drinking Liberally meets tonight (and every Tuesday), 8PM at the Montlake Ale House, 2307 24th Avenue E.

Come join us for some hopped up conversation and hoppy beer.

Not in Seattle? Liberals will also be drinking tonight in the Tri-Cities. A full listing of Washington’s eleven Drinking Liberally chapters is available here.

Comments

  1. 1

    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    I wonder if there is melamine in the beer served at Drinking Libtardly?

  2. 2

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    OH HI PUDDY. HOW’S YOUR BUDDY WOLFIE DOIN’? HE’S HANGIN’ TOUGH
    I HEAR STANDIN’ BY HIS GAL. WOO BOY! I WISH I MADE THAT KIND OF MONEY.

    ONLY PROBLEM.. WHY ISN’T HE DATING A NICE JEWISH GIRL?

  3. 3

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    HEY PUDDY. I HEAR WOLFIE’S GIRLFRIEND MAKES MORE THAN CONDI!!

    WHADAYA THINK OF THAT!?!

    LMAO!!!

  4. 4

    seasalt spews:

    OK, I have a few questions:

    1) Does Goldy really drink with the gang?
    2) By the end of the night, how thick are his beer goggles? (He’ll need some pretty thick ones for my nepharious plans to succeed.)
    3) Does he like women? (And is he ‘free’ to like a new one?)

    I guess I’ll have to drop by and find out.

    Hey, I’m used to having my hopes shattered–I voted for Carter (’80), Mondale, Dukakis, Gore AND Kerry!

    Heh.

  5. 5

    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    Clueless@2: If you travel back in time, I declared Paul Wolfowitz was a moron!

    Once again you prove lack of memory Moonbat!s pupulate this site!

    Next cheeky comment?

  6. 6

    George W. Bush lost the WAR and GBS knows that conservatives politicians and their supporters are TROOP HATERS!! spews:

    What’s up, Apollo Creed??

    how’s that for a cheeky comment?

  7. 7

    George W. Bush lost the WAR and GBS knows that conservatives politicians and their supporters are TROOP HATERS!! spews:

    That’s what you call a stinging left jab on your right cheeky, Apollo.

  8. 8

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    Paul Wolfowitz was a moron!

    YOU MEAN THE ARCHITECT OF THE WAR ON TERRA?!? HOW CAN YOU THINK THIS?

    WELL WELL PUDDY. I GUESS YOU’RE EVEN OFF THE NEO-CON RESERVATION.

    THE CHIMPANZEE YOU VOTED FOR TWICE THINKS WOLFIE CAN DO NO WRONG.

  9. 9

    RepublicansFirst! spews:

    “Paul Wolfowitz was a moron!” – Puddybud

    Puddybud, GOD is watching YOU!! And he does not like what he sees! Paul Wolfowitz was the architect of the HOLY Iraq WAR! And he sold the war to GOD’s America with the promise that the war would cost no more that a few billion dollars! Wolfowitz is a GENIUS!!!!

    And now as the head of the world bank, he will use those same GOD given talents for planning and accounting to guarantee that the world bank will be bankrupt in not time at all!! Leaving only GOD’s America to not give money to the poorer nations!!!

    GOD BLESS WOLFOWITZ!!! GOD DAMN PUDDYBUD!!!!

  10. 10

    Donnageddon spews:

    Bush 2007

    “I believe artificial timetables of withdrawal would be a mistake. … I will strongly reject an artificial timetable withdrawal and/or Washington politicians trying to tell those who wear the uniform how to do their job. [President Bush, 4/23/07]

    Bush 1999

    “I think it’s also important for the president to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn.”

    BUSH Most.Hypocritical.And Worst.President.Ever.

  11. 12

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    Charlie Rangel tells it like it is. That why J. RandomAssHholeWingnut attacks him so freely.
    But J. RandomAssHoleWingnut represents LESS THAN THIRTY PERCENT OF AMERICA.
    Charlie Rangel says it will only be a couple of weeks more before your average Republican Senator and Congresscritter start turning on these bumbling fools in the Whitehouse in a big way. None too soon for my taste.

  12. 15

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    The question in my mind. Mark (Jeff) is just exactly what did you do to have a judge award custody of your daughter to a crackwhore instead of you?

  13. 16

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    While I was fucking MTR and Puffybutt’s wives last night – they both told me that MTR and Puffybutt have moved in together and are now gay lovers who are working to make gay marraige illegal.

  14. 17

    Tree Frog Farmer spews:

    And by the way, Jeff, just exactly why has it been since 2000 that you last voted?

  15. 18

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @5 Funny how these wingnuts claim not to know their neocon friends when they get caught with one hand in the taxpayer’s wallet and the other up a skirt.

    Sorry, puddy, but you ain’t no Democrat and you rightwing fuckers OWN that embarrassing piece of pond slime known as Paul Wolfowitz. HE’S ALL YOURS.

  16. 19

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Roger Rabbit never announces his appearances at DL in advance in order to prevent traffic jams caused by crowds of admiring fans, papparazzi, process servers, and GOP assassins.

  17. 20

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @13 Hey redneck! Didja get the message I left for you earlier today in a previous thread? PAY YOUR FUCKING GAMBLING DEBT, WELSHER!! And thanks for pumping my gas into your SUV — NOV was up another $2.55 today; and that’s on top of the thousands of $$$ of Rupert Murdoch’s money I pocketed this morning. He wants to buy my newspaper. Today was my BEST DAY EVER in the stock market! I made more money asleep than you make in a fucking month!! Man this GOP capitalism is just great! Sure beats working for you assholes. NOW PAY YOUR GAMBLING DEBT, TRAILER PARK LSOER!!!

  18. 21

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Personally, I think it’s a problem that work and labor are devalued in our society. There’s absolutely no incentive left in our system to work. Our society punishes people for working with high taxes. But I don’t want to be a sap, so I don’t work anymore. Fuck work!! The less I produce, the more I get paid. Go figure. Only wingnuts could have invented this system.

  19. 22

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @9 It’s obvious Bush put Wolfowitz in charge of the World Bank to wreck it. Wingnutz don’t believe in helping the poor. They want to fuck the poor!

    This will backfire on the neocons, though. Like everything else has. Traditionally, other countries defer to the U.S. in choosing the World Bank chief. Bush mocked those other governments by appointing a warmonger who used the position to line his girlfriend’s purse with their money. You can be sure all those other governments are rethinking their approach. The U.S. will NOT pick the next World Bank president. They will take that prerogative away from us.

    Just like a stern mother takes a pacifier away from a baby who uses it to try to strangle the cat.

  20. 23

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Speaking of strangling cats, Bush spent his childhood blowing up frogs with firecrackers. His sociopathetic tendencies were evident at an early age. I’ll bet Wolfie has animal abuse in his past, too. You can always spot these deranged individuals while they’re still young. It’s in the genes. They have something wrong with their DNA.

  21. 24

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Now we know what the frog-killer thinks of our troops. He won’t let them have money for food, drinking water, or bullets unless Congress lets him continue squandering their lives for nothing.

    And the wingnuts want you to believe our soldiers vote for that asshole … go figure. Now THERE’S a whopper!!

  22. 25

    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    Moonbat!s, you forgot I said Bremer screwed up too. But your hatred feels you memory loss.

    Keep it up.

  23. 26

    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    Clueless:

    Proven wrong on Media Morons

    Proven wrong on my URL sources

    Just wrong!

  24. 27

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @14 They didn’t get it by working for it, Redneck!

    Frank Blethen inherited his! And says his kids should get $450 million without paying a fucking cent of taxes, while working stiffs pay for a $500 million basketball palace so he can sell more newspapers. Go figure. These people are shameless.

    Redneck, the best way to get rich in America is to be born a Blethen, Nordstrom, or Weyerhauser. This can be statistically demonstrated.

    However, if you’re not one of the lucky ones, there’s still a door open — by just a crack. A handful of individuals can get rich by flipping real estate or stocks. I prefer stocks, because owning them is less trouble. I’m not one of those 68,000 millionaires yet, although I’m damn close, and in a couple more years there will be 68,001 millionaires in this town, and one of them will be a rabbit.

    I didn’t get it by working for it, Redneck. I got it by NOT WORKING. I never made squat from working. I never had anything until they starting paying me to not show up for work anymore. I made more money asleep today than I ever made in a whole fucking month when I was working. Working doesn’t pay. Never has, never will. Nobody should work. Bosses keep all the money for themselves while treating their workers like shit. And the government taxes the shit out of wages while taxing capital gains anywhere from 0% (inherited capital gains) to 15%, tops. But you have to be pretty fucking rich to pay a 15% tax on stock options or real estate winnings.

    Why would anyone work or produce anything under a fucking system like this? I don’t. Our fucked-up Republican value system has made it clear that working and being productive is for saps. Now that I don’t work or produce anything anymore, they’re finally paying me.

    Nope, all I do is sit here on my fat rabbit ass watching my oil stocks appreciate. Keep pumping my gas into your SUV, Redneck! I appreciate your business. But you can quit reading the Wall Street Journal now. I sold my stock in it this morning. So you’re not helping me by reading it, anymore; and reading it obviously doesn’t help you, as it’s clear you still haven’t figured out the #1 rule of business:

    PAY YOUR FUCKING GAMBLING DEBT!!!

  25. 28

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I sorta regret it took me so long to figure out how our fucked-up economic system works. I was always told you succeed in America by working hard. What a crock!!! I worked hard for 40 years and got nothing. I would’ve been a millionaire in my 20s if I had quit working at 18. Hey, I didn’t create this fucked-up Republican value system. I just go with the flow.

  26. 29

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    The highest CEO compensation in America last year ws $1.7 billion. There were at least three people in American business who collected over $1 billion in compensation last year. They didn’t work for it. All of them are hedge fund managers. Their companies don’t employ anyone or produce anything. All they do is flip stocks.

  27. 30

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    We need to stop lying to our children about the value of hard work. Work is worthless! At least, that’s the value American business puts on it. People don’t get paid for working hard under our system. They get paid for being clever thieves. Our economy is based on the Republican value system. The whole idea is to live off other people’s work so you don’t have to work.

  28. 31

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    If everyone quits working, the Republicans will get what they deserve — nothing!!! Let’s have a GENERAL STRIKE and cut off their income!!! STRIKE! STRIKE! STRIKE! until the neocon warmongers are forced out of power. To the barricades!!!

  29. 32

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    I went on strike 5 years ago, and the longer I stay on strike, the richer I get. Go figure. The Republicans didn’t plan on that. They’ve been outsmarted by a rabbit. I play their game better than they do.

  30. 33

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @25 Good work, puddy! At the rate you’re dissing your wingnut buddies, by June there won’t be a Republican left you haven’t attacked on this board. It’s only a matter of time before you run out of other neocons to criticize and do a mea culpa! All your wingnut bullshit is finally catching up with you.

  31. 35

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    MonkeyFace Bush accomplished a mission allright – here’s the mission he accomplished…

    1) He lied about the war and tricked America into thinking it was safer when it fact it was worse off due to his policy
    2) He managed to rip off billions of dollars of our tax money for his pals
    3) He managed to keep his own family from doing any fighting in the war he called the most important in our generation
    4) He managed to make America the laughing stock AND the enemy of the world
    5) He managed to create the most indicted and corrupt government in US history
    6) He managed to take a surplus left him by President Clinton and turn it into the highest deficit in our country’s history
    7) He managed to take a robust economy and spin it into the current recession
    8) He managed to give his family friend Osama bin Laden a free pass
    9) He sat reading a book while New York was attacked by his family friend Osama bin Laden
    10) He managed to rape the American Constitution

  32. 36

    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    Donnageddon@10: http://www.leaderu.com/humanities/quagmire.html

    “Hoping to preempt criticism that it is lurching toward another Balkan quagmire, the Clinton Administration has promised that it would not deploy any forces to Kosovo without a clear “exit strategy.” This is not the first time Americans have heard such a promise. More than three years after the 1995 Dayton Accords, nearly 7,000 U.S. troops remain in Bosnia even though President Bill Clinton initially promised the deployment would last just one year. Stretching U.S. military assets to cover yet another ill-defined peacekeeping mission will further undermine the ability of the United States to defend its vital national security interests in Asia and the Middle East.”

    All Bush was doing was keeping Clinton to his word. Bush said we’d leave when the job is done.

    But like always you live on Think Progress which takes quotes out of context, and Puddy has to clarify the mud you sling!

  33. 37

    righton spews:

    Will chief civil offender McDermott be passing the hat some more; wow, guilty!!! ha!

    good news for us on the right is this stuff tied him up for x years, and takes $$ out of the campaign coffers

  34. 38

    spews:

    Well, Mr. Righton, I am shocked, shocked I say! Rep McDermott lost his civil case and will have to pay civil penalties for letting the public know about the criminal conspiracy entered into by the former Speaker of the House and other House Republicans.

    He callously disregarded the privacy rights of the criminal conspirators House members by not letting them hide the evidence.

    He should feel so ashamed. In fact, we all should. I feel so ashamed that I think that I’ll make an extra contribution to help pay Rep McDermott’s civil penalty.

  35. 39

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @36 Hey puddbutt, Clinton WON his war and STOPPED a genocide without losing ONE single American life in combat.

    Compare that to Chimpface’s record: He STARTED a war he can’t finish that unleashed a CIVIL WAR in which tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis are DYING and has lost thousands of American lives and squandered hundreds of billions of dollars and he’s fucking LOSING.

    Clinton was a WINNER.
    Chimpface and his supporters are LOSERS.

  36. 40

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Clinton didn’t have to steal two elections to get to be president, either.

    GOP = loser

  37. 41

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @37 Bad news for you traitors is you got caught and not only your boy Newt but your whole corrupt party got run out of Congress on a rail.

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

  38. 42

    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    #35 Gloomy Gus Used Full Toilet Roll Stupid you just don’t give up on the lies do you.

    #1 George Tenet admitted the CIA made a mistake on the WMD. You watched 60 Minutes.
    #2 Where did HE do this?
    #3 I thought our force was volunteer.
    #4 Prove it
    #5 This could be?
    #6 Do you admit to the circumstances of 9/11? Still believe it was an inside job?
    #7 55 months of continued Growth AG Edwards
    #8 – Richard Clarke admitted he made the call. How many times do I need to continue to correct the biggest ASS on ASSWipes?
    #9 He was visiting an elementary school Stuuuuuuuuuuupiiiiiiiiiid
    #10 Really? How? Your friends from Media Morons?

  39. 43

    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    John Barelli I am shocked, shocked by your answer above on McDermott.

    1) Did Baghdad Jim break the law by accepting the tapes?

    2) Did Baghdad Jim break the law by sending the tapes on to the NY Times?

    If you said yes to either then he broke the law. If you said yes to both he broke the law. Hmmm…? I expected better from you John!

  40. 44

    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    Will Dianne be treated like Randy “Duke” Cunningham?

    http://thehill.com/david-keene.....04-30.html

    “The problems stem from her subcommittee activities from 2001 to late 2005, when she quit. During that period the public record suggests she knowingly took part in decisions that eventually put millions of dollars into her husband’s pocket — the classic conflict of interest that exploited her position and power to channel money to her husband’s companies.

    In other words, it appears Sen. Feinstein was up to her ears in the same sort of shenanigans that landed California Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham (R) in the slammer. Indeed, it may be that the primary difference between the two is basically that Cunningham was a minor leaguer and a lot dumber than his state’s senior senator.”

    I wonder what GBS has to say about this? I wonder what Flushed Toilet Stupid has to say about this? I wonder what the Clueless one has to say about this?

    They’ll make up some lame excuse!

  41. 45

    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    So PelletHead, if they won the war in Kosovo, why didn’t Clinton bring our 12,000 boys home?

  42. 46

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    While Governor of Texas, the chickenshit pretend President GW Bush said that President Clinton should set a time table certain for the withdrawl of troops from Kosovo. Wait a minute? Didn’t Monkeyface say politicians shouldn’t be setting troop withdrawl deadlines?

    Oh I guess Bush doesn’t expect to be held to the same standard he wanted applied to President Clinton. Typical right wing hypocrite asswipe.

  43. 47

    RepublicansFirst! spews:

    “Bremer screwed up too”

    GOD will smite you Puddybud!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Bremer was an angel sent to steal the wealth of DEMONIC American tax payers and stuff the cash in GOD’s Haliburtan Cheney stock fund!!!!

    GOD hates you PUDDYBUD!!!!

  44. 48

    DOnnageddon spews:

    “So PelletHead, if they won the war in Kosovo, why didn’t Clinton bring our 12,000 boys home?”

    Because Clinton could not allow “an artificial timetable withdrawal and/or Washington politicians trying to tell those who wear the uniform how to do their job. [President Bush, 4/23/07]”

    Sucks to be a “Puddy” “Bud”.

  45. 50

    spews:

    John Barelli I am shocked, shocked by your answer above on McDermott.

    1) Did Baghdad Jim break the law by accepting the tapes?

    Apparently not, as he was never charged with such. He has been found liable in a civil trial for violating a duty of confidentiality. The court was very careful to state that the issue was that he violated a House ethics rule, rather than the law.

    2) Did Baghdad Jim break the law by sending the tapes on to the NY Times?

    No again, the court was pretty careful not to claim that Mr. McDermott violated any law. Their ruling focused solely on the fact that he was given the tapes as a member of the House Ethics Committee, and as such, had an obligation to consider them to be privileged information.

    If you said yes to either then he broke the law. If you said yes to both he broke the law. Hmmm…? I expected better from you John!

    Well, since I said “no” to both of them, and since the court seems to agree, I’d have to say he did not break the law.

    I will acknowledge that, had the parties been switched, I would have been much more annoyed with Mr. McDermott than I am.

    Of course, considering what was on the tapes, I would have been far too embarrassed to actually say so in public, and would have simply hoped that the whole issue would just go away.

    So, yes, the court did find that Mr. McDermott did violate a duty of confidentiality when he let the entire world know that the architect of the neo-con movement, and the hero of conservatives was a liar and a criminal conspirator.

    The court ruled that, as a member of the Ethics Committee, Rep McDermott had an obligation to consider the tapes to be priviledged information. Instead, he let the American public know that Republican Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich violated federal law. I’m sure that all the news stories coming out will prominently mention exactly what Mr. Gingrich was doing on those tapes as well. After all, we do want the whole story.

    We should thank Mr. Boehner for making sure that we’re all reminded of the whole affair.

  46. 51

    RIchard Nixon spews:

    This Bush moron is giving graft and paranoid schizophrenia a bad name!

    Note to George: Quit while you are not yet Impeached.

    I know.

  47. 52

    Bill Clinton spews:

    I cannot believe this! I got impeached for getting a blow job.

    George has shredded the constitution and mired our country in a war that had no need to be fought, and STAYED THERE!!!

    The man has the balls of a bull and the brains of a gnat.

    But he does have no respect for life. And he can drink even Kissinger under the table.

    He is the ultimate Neocon.

  48. 53

    Ike Eisenhower spews:

    Bill, and Richard, I am appalled!

    I was the last competent Republican President, and during my Presidency I had the common sense to raise taxes to 88% for the welfare-rich suckasses that were destroying our democracy. And I alerted the country to the Military-Industrial complex.

    If I were alive, I would piss in the mouth of GWB and then skull fuck the silver-spooned, draft dodging asshole.

    After I was done I would fuck his wife laura, and his kids.

    He is the ABSOLUTE agent for democracy degradation.

    Republicans are now nothing but Welfare-Corporatist’s and their moronic sympathizers.

    Bring the 1950’s back!

    God Bless America, and kill the Neocons!

    Peace and Love,

    Dwight

  49. 54

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    Proven wrong on Media Morons

    SORRY PUD. SOROS DOES NOT FUND MEDIA MATTERS. IF YOU BELIEVE IN THAT FALSEHOOD, THEN YOU ARE A MORON.

    BUT WE KNEW THAT ALREADY.

    Proven wrong on my URL sources

    YOUR URL SOURCES ARE FULL OF SCAIFE, MURDOCH, MOON AND OTHER RICH RIGHT-WING FUNDED MEDIA AS WELL AS RIGHT-WING BLOGS THAT REFER TO THEM. YOU ALSO QUOTE MSM BUT MORE LIKELY THAN NOT ITS BECAUSE IT’S BECAUSE OF A RIGHT WING REFERENCE.

    IF YOU DENY THIS, YOU ARE LYING, PURE AND SIMPLE.

    CONSIDER YOURSELF SHREDDED ONCE MORE.

  50. 55

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    In other words, it appears Sen. Feinstein was up to her ears in the same sort of shenanigans that landed California Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham (R) in the slammer.

    OH WHERE’S THE BRIBE AMOUNTS WRITTEN ON SLIPS OF PAPER? WHERE’S THE YACHT? WHERE’S THE FRENCH FURNITURE?

    OH AND THAT PIECE IN THE HILL WAS WRITTEN BY:

    Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union, is a managing associate with Carmen Group, a D.C.-based governmental-affairs firm (www.carmengrouplobbying.com).

    YET ANOTHER CUT AND PASTE JOB BY PUDDYWHACKO – THE FOOL OF THE RIGHT-WING TOOLS!!!!

  51. 56

    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    Clueless: The Media Matters spokesman said none. But since he funds other orgs that send funds to Media Morons, the spokesman changed to “not directly”. Do you need the link again? Or, do you enjoy living in Clueless world?

    Have a great day.

  52. 57

    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    John Barelli & Clueless:

    Here is the case. Spin on boys:

    The issue on appeal is whether undisputed facts prove that Representative James A. McDermott “unlawfully” obtained the tape recording of an illegally-intercepted conversation in which Representative Boehner participated.

    The complaint alleged that Representative McDermott violated 18 U.S.C. § 2511(1)(c) when he disclosed an illegally-intercepted conversation in which Representative
    Boehner participated. The record developed in discovery showed the following.

    On December 21, 1996, Representative Boehner participated in a conference call with members of the Republican Party leadership, including then-Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich. At the time of the conversation Gingrich was the subject of an investigation by the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct, commonly known as the House Ethics Committee. Representative Boehner was chairman of the House Republican Conference. The participants discussed various strategies regarding how todeal with an expected Ethics Subcommittee announcement ofGingrich’s agreement to accept a reprimand and to pay a fine in exchange for the Committee’s promise not to hold a hearing.

    On January 10, 1997, Clymer published a front-page article in the New York Times entitled “Gingrich Is Heard Urging Tactics in Ethics Case.” The article, which included lengthy excerpts of the taped conversation, reported the circumstances leading to disclosure of the tape

    On cross-motions for summary judgment the district court held that Representative McDermott violated 18 U.S.C. § 2511(1)(c) when he disclosed the tape to the reporters.
    Boehner v. McDermott, 332 F. Supp. 2d 149, 158 (D.D.C. 2004) (Boehner II). Section 2511(1)(c) makes intentional disclosure of any illegally-intercepted conversation a criminal offense if the person disclosing the communication knew or had “reason to know” that it was so acquired.

    As Chief Judge Ginsburg wrote in the original appeal: “One who obtains information in an illegal transaction, with full knowledge the transaction is illegal, has not ‘lawfully obtain[ed]’that information in any meaningful sense.” Boehner I, 191 F.3d at 479 (Ginsburg, J., concurring) (alteration in original).

    We do not understand Representative McDermott to be arguing that even if he unlawfully obtained the illegally-intercepted conversation, he had a First Amendment right to disclose the tape. See generally Boehner I, 191 F.3d 463; id. at 479 (Ginsburg, J., concurring).

    In the Boehner case, as in this suit, a conversation over a car cell phone was intercepted, but in that case the defendant knew both who was responsible for intercepting
    the conversation and how they had done it. In the opinion of the majority [of the D.C. Circuit], the defendant acted unlawfully in accepting the tape in order to provide it to the media.

    BTW Who is Clymer? None other than Adam Clymer and we know what VP Cheney thinks of him!

  53. 58

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Rabbit 27 – Nice rant from a fucking loser. The fact of the matter is that YOU CHOSE to settle for the low expectations and guaranteed security of living off The Producers. You were paid exactly what you were worth which apparently wasn’t much. You just didn’t have what it took to bill time at $350/hr like a real attorney. You made your bed you fucking loser. Wallow in it…

  54. 59

    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    Clueless: Still drinking for the pulsating Kos stalk drinking that white salty, sticky fluid emanating forth every .8 seconds.

    So Clueless I guess going to the US Court of Appeals is getting another “right-wing” reference.

    As Zsa Zsa Gabor would say “Vat a LOOOOOOOOSSSER”

  55. 60

    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    So John Barelli and He Who is STILL Clueless:

    Your side said the taping by Linda Tripp bad, but you hold up Jim McDimwitt’s release of an illegal tape good. Why do Moonbat!s like to implement selective prosecution?

  56. 61

    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    Barelli & Clueless: I seem to remember isn’t this the same McDimwitt who had to return $5000 because the contributor was a Saddam henchman?

  57. 62

    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    Moonbat!s: It seems the late Rachel Corrie’s friends are at it again: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/S.....2FShowFull

    Sheik Ahmad Bahr, acting Speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council, declared during a Friday sermon at a Sudan mosque that America and Israel will be annihilated and called upon Allah to kill Jews and Americans “to the very Last One.” Following are excerpts from the sermon that took place last month, courtesy of MEMRI.

    Sure is amazing who you libtards support!

  58. 63

    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    Oh that’s right Voice of Chalk Scratching won’t post anything from the Jerusalem Post because they don’t agree with “his” politics!

  59. 64

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Well now that the AWOL – coke-snorting – hog-fucking coward has put the veto pen to our troops’ funding, all future deaths and injuries in Iraq to US service people are even more Bush’s fault than usual. Bush hates America, freedom and our troops. And so does every inbred moron who supports Bush.

  60. 65

    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    John Barelli & Still Clueless:

    I missed this in the 05/01/07 judgment:

    “Employees of the Social Security Administration, as well as other government employees, may not reveal social security numbers or records. See 42 U.S.C. § 405(c)(2)(C)(viii)(I), (III).2 Judicial employees may not reveal confidential information received in the course of their official duties. See CODE OF CONDUCT FOR JUDICIAL EMPLOYEES Canon 3D. And so forth.”

    Wow, they referenced themselves! Waaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!

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    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    And what the court found interesting:

    “5 Under House Rule 10, clause 4(e)(3) of the 105th Congress, the special proceedings dealing with Gingrich proceeded under the rules applicable to the 104th Congress. Thus, although Representative McDermott disclosed the tape during the 105th Congress, the applicable rule was that of the 104th Congress.

    Way to go McDimwitt! Waaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aa HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!

  62. 67

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    PUDDYPUD: THE MAN YOU WORSHIP CALLED MURDOCH IS NOW BIDDING 5 BILLION FOR DOW JONES.

    THE EVIL OF THIS MAN KNOWS NO BOUNDS. THE WSJ EDITORIAL PAGE HAS OVER THE YEARS BEEN THE PREMIER PROMULGATER OF RIGHT WING LIES. PUDDYBUD LOVES THIS OF COURSE AND SO DOES THE MAN PUDDYBUD WORSHIPS AND DRINKS THE STICK WHITE SALTY FLUID FROM: RUPERT MURDOCH.

    HOWEVER THE NEWSROOM IS ONE OF THE BEST IN THE COUNTRY WITH A PROUD TRADITION OF EXCELLENT JOURNALISM.

    MURDOCH WILL DESTROY THIS. THE FAMILY THAT OWNS DOW JONES HAS RESISTED HIS PREVIOUS OFFERS AND I HOPE WILL CONTINUE TO CARE ABOUT GOOD OVER EVIL.

  63. 68

    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    When Representative McDermott became a member of the Ethics Committee, he voluntarily accepted a duty of confidentiality that covered his receipt and handling of the Martins’ illegal recording. He therefore had no First Amendment right to disclose the tape to the media.

    Way to go McDimwitt! Waaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aa HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!

  64. 69

    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    Clueless: Just because I find truth in his NY Post paper because the NY Times WILL NOT print detrimental facts about your friends pisses you off to no end.

    Keep up the good work Clueless! Keep drinking from the KosTube! Video coming soon!

  65. 70

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    PUDDYWHACKO: I DON’T CARE WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT SOROS AND MEDIA MATTERS. IT JUST SHOWS YOU VALUE A SHITHEAD LIKE O’REILLY OVER THE FACTS.

    SO KEEP SPEWING YOUR NONSENSE AND DRINKING THE SPEW (STICKY, WHITE AND SALTY) FROM THE SCAIFE, MURDOCH, MOON, KOCH AND OTHER RIGHT-WING ASSHOLES WHOSE PUBLICATIONS YOU ARE ADDICTED TO AND CITE CONSTANTLY IN YOUR INSANE RANTS.

  66. 71

    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    Donnageddon:

    Apparently your dictionary has issues. And… you would think of bud being a narcotic versus new growth based on life.

    Typical Moonbat! thinking… DRUGS!

  67. 72

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    I’M PROUD TO SUPPORT JIM MCDERMOTT. HE HAS PISSED OFF LEGIONS OF RIGHT WING SHITHEADS LIKE PUDDYPULLER WITH HIS INDEPENDENT-MINDED STANCE ON THE ISSUES.

    THIS WAS EXTREMELY VALUABLE IN THE DARK TIMES OF THE CHIMPANZEE-DELAY-FRIST NEXUS WHEN PUDDYLOSER WAS DAILY DRINKING AND BATHING IN STICKY, WHITE, SALTY FLUID OF RIGHT WING SPEW. PUDDY STILL DOES THAT TODAY BUT THAT STUFF IS NOT SO SWEET IS IT PUDDYLOSER?

    MCDERMOTT MADE A COURAGEOUS DECISION TO EXPOSE THE EVIL FRAUD AND CRIMINAL NEWT GRINGRICH WHO PUDDYLIAR WILL VOTE FOR TWICE IN A SPLIT SECOND JUST LIKE HE DID FOR THE CHIMPANZEE.

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    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    Donnageddon: Sucks to be you.

    Clinton said he was putting a timeline of one year on the deployment! It was his radio address in 1999. He gave a timetable.

  69. 74

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    I find truth in his NY Post paper

    YEAH YOU WOULD. MURDOCH LIKE MOON AND SCAIFE CAN PUT 2+2=4 TO THE SERVICE OF THE INSANE RIGHT-WING AGENDA.

    THE AGENDA THAT PUDDYWHACKOFF LOVES, WORSHIPS AND IS ADDICTED TO LIKE THE WORST JUNK A DOPE FIEND CAN PUT IN HIS VEINS.

  70. 75

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    called upon Allah to kill Jews and Americans “to the very Last One.”

    PUDDY CAN RELATE TO THIS WHACKJOB. IT’S BASICALLY WHAT PUDDY AND HIS FRIENDS PRAY TO THE GOD OF ABRAHAM TO DO TO PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY WHO WANT TO RETURN THIS COUNTRY TO SANITY.

  71. 76

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    Still waiting for the inbred right to comment on Monkeyface Bush’s statement that Clinton should set a firm timeline for removing troops from Kosovo. If it was okay then, why not now? Fucking hypocrites.

  72. 77

    spews:

    Puddybud:

    The problem with your references is that they go back to the original, now vacated ruling. While the full court still ruled that Mr. McDermott violated Mr. Boehner’s privacy, they used different reasoning and did not find that any laws were broken.

    Instead, they apparently went further, stating that if Mr. McDermott had not been a member of the Ethics Committee, with special responsibility to treat the tape as privileged, that he would have been within his First Amendment rights to publish the tape.

    Your mistake is understandable, as the full decision of the court is not yet available (or at least I couldn’t find it), and the earlier (now vacated) decision is being referenced by Faux News on a regular basis.

    Splitting hairs? Yes, I am. But that split hair is the difference between violating the law and violating a House rule.

    There is the possibility that, once the full ruling of the Court of Appeals is readily available, that it will not say what every news agency has reported that it says. Stranger things have happened. There is also the possibility that the case will be appealed to the Supreme Court, at which point anything could happen.

    My best guess is that Mr. McDermott will be satisfied with the ruling, as it confirms that no laws were broken, Mr. Boehner will be stuck with the ruling, as he technically “won”, even though the real hope was that the courts would rule that Mr. McDermott violated the law.

    Faux News and NewsMax will continue to reference the now vacated ruling, as it says what they want to hear, and we’ll be reading references by the right wing types to that old ruling, and we’ll continually have to correct them, showing the ruling of the full appeals court that does not make the claim that a law was broken. For most of those right-wing types, the distinction will be much too subtle.

    On one level, the right wing types will have a point, in that, if Mr. McDermott were a Republican, many of our posters here would ignore that distinction as well.

    But, if the parties of all the players here were reversed, I wouldn’t be saying much about the whole thing, because the underlying cause of the whole thing (the information on that tape) would be way too embarrassing.

    Oh, and by the way. With regards to your question:

    “Your side said the taping by Linda Tripp bad, but you hold up Jim McDimwitt’s release of an illegal tape good. Why do Moonbat!s like to implement selective prosecution? “

    Why, for the same reason that your side thinks that taping by Ms. Tripp is good, and release of the tape of Mr. Gingrich is bad, of course. Neither side is entirely free of hypocrisy. For myself, I prefer to err on the side of releasing information about our elected representatives violating the law.

    But then, I wasn’t all that upset at the release of the Tripp tapes, either. I never was Mr. Clinton’s biggest fan, and was very disappointed with his behaviour. Every positive thing the man did will be forever tainted by the fact that he couldn’t manage to keep his trousers zipped.

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    spews:

    Oh, one more tidbit with regards to Ms. Tripp’s conviction. The couple that illegally taped Mr. Gingrich’s call were also convicted. Mr. McDermott’s role in this was in receiving the tapes and releasing information from them.

    Much like Ms. Coulter’s role in the Tripp tapes, except that he didn’t lie about it first, only admitting the truth after getting caught.

    Of course, Ms. Coulter is hardly a stellar role model.

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    Donnageddon spews:

    Puddybud said : “All Bush was doing was keeping Clinton to his word. Bush said we’d leave when the job is done.”

    Uh… WTF? Bush stated that the President had to provide a timeline for the exit out of the Kosovo war. None of that is out of context. And “Balkan quagmire”?. Just how stupid are you, Puddybud?

    When the Kosovo campaign was successfully complete our forces left.

    Bush on the other hand continually changes the exit criteria, and refuses to provide a timeline for withdrawl from his disasterous 5 year quagmire in Iraq. Bush and the Neocons want an eternal war. They are hypocrits and murderers.

    But thanks for bringing Clinton’s name into the discussion, Puddy. You are firmly still on the kool aid drinking wingnut reservation.

  75. 80

    Donnageddon spews:

    Puddybud said “Clinton said he was putting a timeline of one year on the deployment! It was his radio address in 1999. He gave a timetable.”

    Uhm… yeah, he did. I never stated he didn’t. But Bush refuses to follow his own advice.

    Bush is a hypocrit.

    Sucks to be Puddybud’s wife and kids.

  76. 81

    Donnageddon spews:

    Puddybud said: “Donnageddon:

    Apparently your dictionary has issues. And… you would think of bud being a narcotic versus new growth based on life.

    Typical Moonbat! thinking… DRUGS! ”

    I am curious, Puddybud, just what in hell are you talking about?

  77. 82

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @45 Because we didn’t slaughter all those Christo-fascist Serb sons of bitches, so they still need to be policed.

  78. 83

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    What the wingnuts really have against Clinton’s successful Kosovo intervention (as opposed to Chimpface’s disastrous Iraq misadventure) is that the people he saved from genocide were Muslims.

    The wingers are pissed that Clinton didn’t let the Serb Christo-fascist sons of bitches slaughter them.

  79. 84

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Remember the World War II Wehrmacht belt buckles engraved “Gott mitt uns”? Hitler apparently wasn’t a Christo-fascist — merely a fascist who believed in some vaguely undefined “providence” — but he let his troops go into battle believing they were doing Christ’s work.

    Anyone see a parallel there?

  80. 85

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @56 SO FUCKING WHAT? Soros made his money legally, in the marketplace, and he can damn well give it to anyone he wants to. And progressives have as much right to their think tanks and media as rightwing blowhards do! Considering that the rightwing megaphone is 100 times better funded and owns 100 times as much of the media, you’re being awfully petty about this. You’re one sorry, petty, mean little, vindictive, PUNK.

  81. 86

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @58 Keep tipping back them Lone Starts and paying your DUI attorney $350 an hour, Redneck!! My lawyer pals appreciate your business. Really, they do. They wouldn’t have their McMansions, Land Rovers, and yachts without clients like you. And please please PLEASE keep pouring my soon-to-be $4 gas into your SUV!!! I like your business. My stocks went up another $1,000 this morning while I was still in bed. Capitalism is great! Sure beats working for assholes like you.

  82. 87

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Redneck good buddy, I got a question for ya: How come a guy who can afford $3 gas and $350-an-hour attorneys can’t afford to pay a $100 gambling debt? Are you ready to admit you’ve got the cash, but won’t pay because you’re a fucking liar and welsher? You may as well admit it, because everyone knows what you are.

  83. 88

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Never make a bet or cut a deal with a Republican, because they’re all welshers, and you’ll get stiffed every time.

  84. 89

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @61 I think the point there would be that he returned it when he found out where it came from. A Republican would have kept it — and asked for more.

  85. 91

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @72 If I knew nothing else about McDermott, I would support him simply because the wingers hate him. That, by itself, is reason enough to love Jim McDermott!

  86. 93

    George W. Bush lost the WAR and GBS knows that conservatives politicians and their supporters are TROOP HATERS!! spews:

    Puddybud @ 44:

    No, they are not the same thing. Ask the federal prosecutor’s office. If they were, she’d be under inditement.

    But, hey, you’re not one to let facts get in the way of a flimsy comparison.

    Nice try but you own the Cultre of Crime!

  87. 94

    George W. Bush lost the WAR and GBS knows that conservatives politicians and their supporters are TROOP HATERS!! spews:

    Roger @ 88:

    I will say that at least Puddybud paid his debt. Albeit, it took him over a year and a half to save up the $12 bucks for my lunch.

  88. 95

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    I got news for ya rabbit. Soros did NOT make his money in the marketplace. He speculated on the Thai Baht in a shitty underhanded way.

    Here’s the scam he pulled.

    He borrowed a huge amount of money in the form of Thai Baht.

    He exchanged the Thai Baht for USD in the FX market.

    He and his accomplices then started a rumor that the Baht was about to be devalued by the Thai government. A panic ensued.

    Sometime later, the Thai government did devalue the Baht by a substantial amount.

    Soros then went into the FX market to buy Baht to pay back the Baht based loan. But since the value of the Baht was so low, he needed substantially fewer dollars to buy the Bahts than he got in the original Baht for Dollar exchange.

    The devaluation of the baht was so bad, that people saw their life savings wiped out, and their businesses ruined. George Soros is personally responsible for millions of wrecked lives. It was so bad that many Thai people and businessmen committed suicide.

    So go peddle your fucking bullshit somewhere else you dumb fucking shit. Soros is no genius; he’s a fucking thief just like all you fucking democrats.

  89. 96

    George W. Bush lost the WAR and GBS knows that conservatives politicians and their supporters are TROOP HATERS!! spews:

    MTR

    You are a sham of a lying piece of shit. George Soros is a hedgefund manager of a multibillion dollar portfolio.

    He shorted the Baht in the ’96-’97 timeframe because he knew the financial troubles Japan and the rest of Asia was experiencing at the time Thai Baht was ripe for devaluation.

    In fact, asshole, he railed against political leaders that they lacked the will to prevent the economic collapse of Thailand with either troops or money.

    He saw it coming and profited from it. Secretly, you admire him. Publicly you despise him because he has a conscience.

    The Thai economy didn’t collapse because of a whisper campaign by George Soros and a few of his buddies.

    How fucking STUPID are you to believe that????

    What kind of a fucking loser moron would let his daughter be raised by drug addicted, suicidal crack whore and pay her $500,000 to do it?

    No one! That’s who.

    They ONLY part of your bullshit story that might be true is you knocked up a street walker. But that half-a-mill story — pure bullshit. Maybe that crack whore soaked you for $50 bucks for a hand job and she let you cum on her pussy and that’s how she got knocked up, but the rest of your shit is a pack of lies.

    What a pathetic DICK!

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    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    John Barelli:

    United States Court of Appeals
    FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA CIRCUIT
    Argued October 31, 2006 Decided May 1, 2007

    I found it.

  91. 98

    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    And John, the paragraph I missed when the PDF page flipped said the court upon third appeal said 18 U.S.C. § 2511(1)(c) no longer applied.

  92. 99

    Puddybud's Who Left the Reservation spews:

    George Soros Starting with Wikipedia:

    “Currency speculation

    On Black Wednesday (September 16, 1992), Soros became immediately famous when he sold short more than $10 billion worth of pounds, profiting from the Bank of England’s reluctance to either raise its interest rates to levels comparable to those of other European Exchange Rate Mechanism countries or to float its currency.

    Finally, the Bank of England was forced to withdraw the currency out of the European Exchange Rate Mechanism and to devalue the pound sterling, and Soros earned an estimated US$ 1.1 billion in the process. He was dubbed “the man who broke the Bank of England.”

    The Times October 26, 1992, Monday quoted Soros as saying: “Our total position by Black Wednesday had to be worth almost $10 billion. We planned to sell more than that. In fact, when Norman Lamont said just before the devaluation that he would borrow nearly $15 billion to defend sterling, we were amused because that was about how much we wanted to sell.”

    According to Steven Drobny,[8] Stanley Druckenmiller, who traded under Soros, originally saw the weakness in the pound. “Soros’ contribution was pushing him to take a gigantic position,” in accord with Druckenmiller’s own research and instincts.

    In 1997, during the Asian financial crisis, then Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir bin Mohamad accused Soros of using the wealth under his control to punish ASEAN for welcoming Myanmar as a member. Later, he called Soros a moron.[9] Thai nationals have called Soros “an economic war criminal” who “sucks the blood from the people”.[10]

    [edit] Partners

    George Soros’s most successful partners at Quantum fund have been Jim Rogers, Victor Niederhoffer, and Stanley Druckenmiller, all of whom are famous traders in their own rights.

    [edit] Insider trading charges

    In 1988, he was asked to join a takeover attempt of the French bank Société Générale. He declined to participate in the bid, but did later buy a number of shares in the company. French authorities began an investigation in 1989, and in 2002 a French court ruled that it was insider trading as defined under French securities laws and fined him $2 million which was the amount that he made using the insider information.

    Punitive damages were not sought because of the delay in bringing the case to trial. Soros denied any wrongdoing and said news of the takeover was public knowledge.[11]

    His insider trading conviction was upheld by the highest court in France on June 14, 2006.[12] In December, 2006 he appealled to the European Court of Human Rights, claiming that the 14 year delay in bringing the case to trial precluded a fair hearing.[13]”

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    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    THESE WINGNUTS ARE SO ADDICTED TO HATING SOROS BECAUSE THEY ARE ADDICTED TO RIGHT-WING BULLSHIT. THE BULLSHIT TELLS THEM TO HATE AND THEY HATE RIGHT ON CUE.

    IF SOROS DIDN’T EXPLOIT OPPORTUNITIES IN THE CURRENCY MARKETS THEN SOME OTHER HEDGE FUND OPERATOR WOULD DO THE EXACT SAME THING AND MORE LIKELY THAN NOT THE GUY WOULD BE RIGHT WING.

    AND YOU WOULDN’T HEAR A PEEP FROM HATE-ON-CUE TYPES LIKE MTR AND PUDDYGULLIBLE.

  94. 101

    YOS LIB BRO spews:

    WHAT’S SO HILARIOUS IS THAT THESE WINGNUTS ARE GOING ON ABOUT SOROS’ CONVICTION IN A FRENCH COURT!

    LMAO!!!!

    THESE IDIOTS CAN’T GET THEIR HATE STRAIGHT!!!