Shit. I hate it when I agree with the Seattle Times editorial board. (Actually, I kinda like it when I agree with Times, but it’s a lot more fun to trash them.)
The Times takes former real estate salesman Dino Rossi to task for his faux “nonprofit, nonpartisan” think tank, that’s really just a dodge for running his 2008 gubernatorial campaign without revealing its contributors.
Rossi’s group could well be legal, but falls in a gray area. The group is keeping Rossi’s potential gubernatorial candidacy alive through speeches and travel. […] The state Public Disclosure Commission is doing preliminary work before beginning an investigation on Rossi’s group and may not conduct a full investigation. It should decide whether such a group is legal under campaign laws or if such activities violate the spirit of our laws, which is more likely.
[…] Voters have a right to wonder why Rossi invented a group and pretends it is not part of a campaign.
The Times goes on to say that even if he technically managed to skirt our state’s public disclosure laws, “Rossi ought to announce contributors and the amounts donated.”
Yeah, fat chance. The Stranger’s Josh Feit talked with Forward Washington executive director Ted Dahlstrom today, who said: “We have not violated any rule. We have no plans to disclose our list.”
If anything, the Times’ admonishment was too reserved. Forward Washington is a ruse, and everybody knows it. It doesn’t just allow Rossi to hide the identity of his big money contributors, it also allows them to vastly exceed campaign contribution limits. And oh yeah… Rossi gets to draw a salary… expressly forbidden in a real campaign. Sweet.
Rossi ran in 2004 as an agent of change, promising to shake things up in Olympia after two decades of Democratic governors. Now we see the kind of change Rossi was talking about.
UPDATE:
You know what…? The more I think about it, even I was being too reserved:
I first posted this back on December 23 of 2004. In this Public Disclosure Commission filing, Rossi declares that he is running for governor in 2008, and if you look above his signature you’ll see that he certifies that this report is “true, complete and correct.” And he continued to file with PDC until February of 2006.
So then… what happened to the $324,000 he’d raised for his official 2008 campaign? What happened to the computers, office furniture and other assets his 2008 campaign bought? What happened to the $79,000 he had left over in the bank? Did he really shut down his campaign and start Forward Washington, or did he just hang a different shingle on the door?
Now Rossi claims that he was only raising money to pay for his lawsuit? Well, he was either lying to the PDC back in December of 2004… or he’s lying to the PDC (and the public) now.
There’s no question that Rossi is intentionally skirting the law, but if the PDC determines that this is technically legal, than he has laid out a roadmap for killing public disclosure and campaign contribution limits in Washington state. Every candidate can be “undeclared” or “undecided” until officially filing. Every candidate can run a shadow campaign, hiding contributors, and directly drawing a salary.
The public has a right to know: who is paying Dino Rossi’s bills? The only thing stopping this disclosure is Dino Rossi.
$75K a year for being a tool. Nice work if you can get it.
Goldy,
You actually can pay yourself for “lost salary” when you’re running for office. Most candidates decline this opportunity, as it looks bad, and makes fundraising hard to do – but we do have some examples in this state – take a look at Rep. Dan Roach’s C4 filings from last year – he was paying himself to run for reelection! Gotta love that!
Ok, so his payment to himself isn’t listed on a C4, but rather a Schedule A filed on 7/27/06. My bad.
So what do you expect from a lying fuck like Rossi? Remember when he claimed to be a real estate broker when he wasn’t? He’s a Publican. He lies. Not news at all.
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003576.php
Oops breaking – this punk is going to jail. Wonder if he’ll start talking now that his days as a free man are nearly up? Or will the Bush regime make sure he has a “heart attack” first?
No problem.
Just keep counting the votes until your candidate wins!
Peirce County Voter:
Why don’t you try going back to civics class? That song is getting pretty tired, you know by now that the intial counts and the final hand recount increased the accuracy of the election, there was no foul play.
But red voters like you would rather piss in the bed than admit they they lost fair and square.
This looks like it’s going to be high comedy for a while. I believe Rossi contends that this filing was done so that he could still raise money for the election challenge. That’s fine and good, and he’s allowed to do that, but he’s certainly not allowed to later pretend that he didn’t do this when he finds out that it’s not convenient for him.
Rossi has a long history of questionable ethical behavior.
I remember the 1980’s, when Rossi was working with Melvin Heide. Heide was a crooked real estate broker who was indicted for fraud, and convicted, and sent to jail. Rossi claims he didn’t know the guy he worked with for years was a swindler. Rossi worked with Heide until just before filing for public office.
Read more about Rossi and Heide in this Times article.
Just keep counting until you win. That’s what works best!
Via the excellent SoundPolitics.com: “Joel Connelly, the contumelious liberal columnist for the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, has 4 people registered to vote claiming residence at his 737 sq. ft cabin on Whidbey Island.
“These registered voters are: Connelly himself, Virginia Snyder, who Connelly informs me is his “master landscaper”, and Ellen and David Lawsky. Connelly is an interesting case, as he might be able to argue plausibly that he’s resident of either Seattle or Whidbey Island. My interpretation is that he’s a Seattle resident who is claiming voting residence at his weekend home so he can vote in more competitive races, but he asserts other facts that would support his claim to a Whidbey Island residence. I’ll get to this at the end of the post.
“The registrations that appear to be outright fraudulent (and I don’t use that word lightly here) are those of Ellen and David Lawsky. David Lawsky is a correspondent for Reuters, who relocated from the Washington, DC bureau to the Brussels bureau in 2001. Ellen Lawsky is Head of the International High School in Brussels. In a May 2004 column, Connelly described Lawsky as “a hiking buddy visiting from Washington, D.C.”. Funny then, that this out of town visitor and his wife had registered to vote at Connelly’s Island County cabin in October 2002 and have voted in 8 elections since, including those for local school, park and library measures. But how can they legitimately claim to be legal residents of Island County, Washington State, and not Washington, DC? As far as I can tell, they can’t” …
Well, well, well. So melamine poodle Joel Connelly is getting out the vote, expanding the franchise to visiting tie-carriers who can become tie breakers in close gubernatorial elections.
I was recently reading about Joel’s bros, Clops Connelly and Baboon Connelly, in Asbury’s Gangs of New York. Better find out if Clops and Baboon aren’t voting from big Joel’s little cabin, particularly since the gangstas have met all Democrat requirements for being eligible voters: They’re from somewhere else, they’re dead, and one of them must be an animal.
Pull Baboon’s registration card to see if he signed in with a paw print, like Connelly’s other left-wing poodles.
Campaigns do try to offset lost salary for candidates. But this story sounds far different than paying a candidate to run for office. He’s not currently running for office.
I would guess that both Dems, Reps, and Greens, all parties have and do pay candidates to run for office. And with the way things are going these days, I wouldn’t be suprised if we didn’t see more and more paid candidates. Running for office is essentially something that many step up and do for the party. Many are also asked to run, and those candidates will often get paid as well.
Most people would not only lose wages, but their actual jobs, if they tried to run for office. Unless they were super-human. Bloggers know, you-gotta pay your bills, and politics leads to lost income. It takes an amazing amount of hours and money run an affective campaign, even for un-paid or super low-paid positions like school board.
In modern America, being a polician is also announcing open-season on your personal life, your family life, and every secret ballot you never cast. So the escalation will inevitably continue.
Real public finance reform, like Washington Public Campaigns is the only proposition on the table that may do something to allow regular folk to run for office, but until then… you’ll see more paid candidates, and more un-challenged seats.
And even then, the toxic environment that surrounds running for office these days will eventually eliminate every sane person from every running for office who doesn’t have at least some alternative motive than the simply the “preservation of the common good” in government.
12 Gentry, what you’re predicting in your last paragraph may have long since come to pass. Most Publicans these days act as if they believe there’s no such thing as “the common good”, and all too many Democrats, although professing to believe in it, would be hard pressed to define it.
Don’t worry, I’m sure he’ll officially declare soon.
You are right to fear his running Goldy. After the unprecedented increase in spending by a democrat legislature, signed and delivered special interest legistlation for tribes and others and non-effective leadership from Gov Gregoire, the Rossi campaign has more than enough ammo for a landslide victory…
As I understand things, this is nothing more than what a presidential exploratory committee does…..
Hey you guys wrote the rules.. don’t get so bent out of shape when someone plays by them…
THERE’S ONLY ONE BIG DONOR TO SPEAK OF AND IT’S INITIALS ARE:
B.I.A.W.
‘NUFF SAID.
#14 so spending will cost Dems the Governor’s office? If so, then the Bush regime’s record spending will certainly cost Publicans the White House. I’ll take that trade.
@16
It just might.
The conservative faithful are fed up with the spending that the Republican held congress and President unleased on the country.
Fortunately, a Democrat is unable to run as a fiscal conservative. So there is still hope for 2008.
whomever the Democrat candidate is will have to promise to, at the very least, ROLL BACK TAX CUTS and that is a bad message to have to deliver just to keep your base happy.
The out of control spending kept many conservatives home…and cost the Repuclicans congress. Barely.
Looks like the Bush regime took the bait. Baby Bush pardoned the traitor Libby. This is just one more arrow in our sling for the 08 Election.
Bush is starting to look more like Nixon every day. And I am sure that the Democratic party will start airing those commercials that tie the two together soon.
Hmmmmm, a little selective memory?
http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/cl.....grants.htm
Armed Bank Robbery, Armed Assault, Dealing Firearms without a license, Blackmail, Distribution of Cocaine (Attempted and actual) want to go on?
Libby was convicted of the same crime Martha Stuart was. I agree, that if convicted, the guilty should pay their debt to society. However, in this case, the President used his power accordingly. Although I don’t agree with it on principal, it is within his power to do so. Just like it has been before him.
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I hope to hell that Rossi is the Republican nominee for governor next year. Time reveals more and more what an empty shirt he is–he is nothing but styled hair, substance-free platitudes, and a blank agenda that his sponsors will draft for him. Oh, yeah, and he’s an ethical cesspool, incapable of distinguishing right from wrong and incapable of acting consistently with the principles he mouths. Gregoire will clean his clock and the rabid right will finally have to shut up about his entitlement to the governor’s office. There are Republicans who could be strong candidates for governor, but Rossi ain’t one of them.
Ummm- let’s see: Rossi plan is evil-John (The Haircut”) Edwards is doing the same thing, but his cause is noble?
Two-faced Democrat slugs!
Libby commutation is bad- Sandy Berger’s theft of National Security documents is OK?
Democraps!
RE the SUBJECT CHANGE by the liberal moron @ 18…
That\’s not fireworks you hear… that\’s the sound of the collective heads of many macroglossus coprophagus lunaris vespertilio simultaneously exploding as word gets around that GW commuted the prison sentence of Scooter Libby.
Gotta love the smell of fried liberals brains on a sunny July afternoon even as moldy and unused as they are.
You will note, liberal fools, that he only commuted his sentence which is not to be confused with a pardon (for you oh so easily confused liberal fools). I suspect the pardon won\’t be necessary when the appeal is complete.
translation for the liberal fools…
macroglossus coprophagus lunaris vespertilio =
long-tongued poo eating moonbat =
YOU FUCKING LIBERAL IDIOTS!
The smell of fried liberal brains on a sunny afternoon … sort of like the smell of napalm in the morning. (Or, as my alternative-lifestyle friends like to say, there’s nothing like a great big bowl of hairy assholes to start a man’s day.)
John @ 20
“Ummm- let’s see: Rossi plan is evil-John (The Haircut”) Edwards is doing the same thing, but his cause is noble?
Two-faced Democrat slugs!”
Perhaps you can explain how you believe what John Edwards did even remotely resembles Rossi’s scam.
“Libby commutation is bad- Sandy Berger’s theft of National Security documents is OK?”
Hmmm…your argument appears to be logically flawed. Berger theft==Libby Lying. Neither is okay.
Berger was tried, convicted, sentenced, and served his sentence. Libby was tried, convicted, sentenced, and would have soon served his sentence (he’ll serve some of his sentence still).
Or were you suggesting that Bush should have commuted Berger’s sentence?
Benjamin Franklin believed strongly for most of his life that no official should receive a salary for his official duties. Only at the end of his life did he admit that this would prevent most people from ever running for office.
But Franklin had sold off his printing business years before at a hefty profit, which allowed him to travel throughout Britain and Europe for decades, in relative comfort, without drawing a salary from anybody.
Personally, I don’t mind having a candidate draw a modest salary from his/her campaign while they are actually running for office, or while they are in the transition period between winning an election and taking office. But perhaps we should limit that period of time to six months or so, and also place a monetary limit on the amount they can draw, to avoid the worst appearances that the money is an out-and-out bribe.
But there are lots of ways for a “candidate” to receive benefits without drawing a salary. First, turn his home into an official campaign office (requiring hundreds of thousands of dollars in “improvements”, including security). Second, provide all the transportation he or his family needs (cars + drivers). Third, make sure he and his family don’t have to pay for meals for the duration of the campaign. Fourth, promise the candidate that as long as they hew to the BIAW line, then there will always be lucrative job waiting for the candidate after the election (or when they leave office).
So Dino Rossi is nothing but a “former real estate salesman”. Good god, you snotty lefties are something else. Real estate agents are part of what makes the world go ’round and their efforts make life better for everyone. I don’t expect you morons will ever figure that out. I’m sure you’re much too busy making puppets of Bush and Cheney in prison suits.
As for “non-partisan” campaign organizations, what the hell do you think Media Matters is?
Phonies.
Bush’s commutation of Libby’s sentence should come back to bite the Republicans. The commutation provides more evidence, as if any were needed, that Republicans believe they are above the law. Remarkably, Bush offered no substantive justification for the commutation, other than that, based on his presumed long jurisprudential experience with sentencing, the sentence was “excessive.” The sad irony here is that Bush appointed Judge Walton, who sentenced Libby, because he had a reputation for being tough on criminals. Bush, naturally, does not believe in fair, let alone harsh, sentences for those involved in his aristocracy of arrogance. Libby deserved jail time. That’s what the justice system decreed. The right, however, just doesn’t believe in justice.
Who the F is paying for Gregoire’s 1st class trips all over the world?
Uh let’s have a quiz:…………..
1: She pays for all these trips out of her own pocket.
2: She has a 10 Cent carrot juice stand in front of Roger’s Hole raising the travel funds.
3: She has no idea where the funds are coming from, but having one hell of a good time traveling.
4: She is screwing the citizens of this state into paying for all of her extensive worldwide travel.
I’m sure fucking glad there’s no librul media bias. ‘Cause if there was, they’d be reporting how John “The Breck Girl” Edwards setup a phony foundation to “fight poverty”. He paid himself from the foundation’s money to go on the lecture circuit. Uh-huh… in places like New Hampshire and Iowa… I guess there’s a LOT of poverty there.
Edwards is an ANNOUNCED POTUS president, and he gets a free pass when he clearly and intentionally violates campaign finance laws. When asked about it, he gave the Algore answer of “… no controlling legal authority…” uh…. even though there is.
Rossi is a great man who should be sitting in governor’s mansion now instead of mrs. gregoire.
29 – PAY YOUR FUCKING GAMBLING DEBT. AND DO US THE COURTESY OF BACKING UP YOUR BULLSHIT WITH LINKS TO THE RIGHT-WING CRAP YOU SWALLOW. NOT THAT IT WOULD MATTER.
GULLIBLE, BET-WELSHING DUMBASS.
CRUCHON @ 26
YOU’RE A MORON. MEDIA MATTERS CALLS THE RIGHT WING ON ITS PROPAGANDA AND THE MSM ON ITS INCOMPETENCE AND ITS GO ALONG TO GET ALONG ATTITUDE WITH THE MOST UNPOPULAR, ABERRANT ADMINISTRATION IN U.S. HISTORY.
ALL YOUR WORSHIP OF RIGHT-WING WATER CARRIERS LIKE LIMBAUGH IS GOING DOWN THE DRAIN CRUCHON. YOU’RE A LOSER.
Courtesy of Ragnar Danneskjold over at Sound Politics:
Clinton issued 140 pardons as well as several commutations on his last day of office (January 20, 2001).
Carlos A. Vignali had his sentence for cocaine trafficking commuted, after serving 6 of 15 years in federal prison.
Almon Glenn Braswell was pardoned of his mail fraud and perjury convictions, even while a federal investigation was underway regarding additional money laundering and tax evasion charges.[12] Braswell and Carlos Vignali each paid approximately $200,000 to Hillary Clinton’s brother, Hugh Rodham
Marc Rich, a fugitive, was pardoned of tax evasion.
Susan McDougal, who had already completed her sentence, was pardoned for her role in the Whitewater scandal.
Melvin J. Reynolds, a Democratic Congressman from Illinois, who was convicted of bank fraud, 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice, and solicitation of child pornography had his sentence commuted on the bank fraud charged and was allowed to serve the final months under the auspices of a half way house.
Roger Clinton, the president’s half-brother, on drug charges after having served the entire sentence more than a decade before.
List of people pardoned by Bill Clinton:
BB>Verla Jean Allen (1990 false statements to an agency of the United States)
Nicholas M. Altiere (1983 importation of cocaine)
Bernice Ruth Altschul (1992 money laundering conspiracy)
Joe Anderson Jr. (1988 income tax evasion)
William Sterling Anderson (1987 defraudment of a financial institution, false statements to a financial institution, wire fraud)
Mansour Azizkhani (1984 false statements in bank loan applications)
Cleveland Victor Babin Jr. (1987 using the U.S. mail service to defraud)
Chris Harmon Bagley (1989 conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
Scott Lynn Bane (Unlawful distribution of marijuana)
Thomas Cleveland Barber (Issuing worthless checks)
Peggy Ann Bargon (Violation of the Lacey Act, violation of the Bald Eagle Protection Act)
David Roscoe Blampied (possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
William Arthur Borders Jr. (Conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge (Alcee L. Hastings), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions; corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein; traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery)
Arthur David Borel (Odometer Rollback)
Douglas Chrles Borel (Odometer Rollback)
George Thomas Brabham (Making a false statement or report to a federally insured bank)
Almon Glenn Braswell (1983 mail fraud and perjury)
Leonard Browder (Illegal dispensing of controlled substance and Medicaid fraud)
David Steven Brown (Securities fraud and mail fraud)
Delores Caroylene Burleson, aka Delores Cox Burleson (Possession of Marijuana)
John H. Bustamante (wire fraud)
Mary Louise Campbell
Eloida Candelaria
Dennis Sobrevinas Capili
Donna Denise Chambers
Douglas Eugene Chapman
Ronald Keith Chapman
Francisco Larois Chavez
Henry Cisneros (former HUD Secretary)
Roger Clinton, Jr. (half-brother of President Bill Clinton)
Stuart Harris Cohn
David Marc Cooper
Ernest Harley Cox Jr.
John F. Cross Jr.
Reickey Lee Cunningham
Richard Anthony De Labio
John Deutch (former Director of Central Intelligence Agency)
Richard Douglas
Edward Reynolds Downe
Marvin Dean Dudley
Larry Lee Duncan
Robert Clinton Fain
Marcos Arcenio Fernandez
Alvarez Ferrouillet
William Dennis Fugazy
Lloyd Reid George
Louis Goldstein
Rubye Lee Gordon
Pincus Green
Robert Ivey Hamner
Samuel Price Handley
Woodie Randolph Handley
Jay Houston Harmon
Rick Hendrick
John Hummingson
David S. Herdlinger
Debi Rae Huckleberry
Warren C. Hultgren Jr.
Donald Ray James
Stanley Pruet Jobe
Ruben H. Johnson
Linda Jones
James Howard Lake
June Louise Lewis
Salim Bonnor Lewis
John Leighton Lodwick
Hildebrando Lopez
Jose Julio Luaces
James Timothy Maness
James Lowell Manning, (1982, aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate income tax return)
John Robert Martin
Frank Ayala Martinez
Silvia Leticia Beltran Martinez
John Francis McCormick
Susan H. McDougal
Howard Mechanic
Brook K. Mitchell Sr.
Samuel Loring Morison
Charles Wilfred Morgan III
Richard Anthony Nazzaro
Charlene Ann Nosenko
Vernon Raymond Obermeier
Miguelina Ogalde
David C. Owen
Robert W. Palmer
Kelli Anne Perhosky
Richard H. Pezzopane
Orville Rex Phillips
Vinson Stewart Poling Jr.
Norman Lyle Prouse
Willie H.H. Pruitt Jr.[1]
Danny Martin Pursley Sr.
Charles D. Ravenel
William Clyde Ray
Alfredo Luna Regalado
Ildefonso Reynes Ricafort
Marc Rich – tax evasion fugitive
Howard Winfield Riddle
Richard Wilson Riley Jr.
Samuel Lee Robbins
Joel Gonzales Rodriguez
Michael James Rogers
Anna Louise Ross
Dan Rostenkowski – Former Democratic Congressman convicted in the Congressional Post Office Scandal
Gerald Glen Rust
Jerri Ann Rust
Bettye June Rutherford
Gregory Lee Sands
Adolph Schwimmer
Albert A. Seretti Jr.
Patricia Campbell Hearst Shaw
Dennis Joseph Smith
Gerald Owen Smith
Stephen A. Smith
Jimmie Lee Speake
Charles Bernard Stewart
Marlena Francisca Stewart-Rollins
Fife Symington III – former Arizona governor
Richard Lee Tannehill
Nicholas C. Tenaglia
Gary Allen Thomas
Larry Weldon Todd
Olga C. Trevino
Ignatious Vamvouklis
Patricia A. Van De Weerd
Christopher V. Wade
Bill Wayne Warmath
Jack Kenneth Watson
Donna Lynn Webb
Donald William Wells
Robert H. Wendt
Jack L. Williams
Kavin Arthur Williams
Robert Michael Williams
Jimmie Lee Wilson
Thelma Louise Wingate
Mitchell Couey Wood
Warren Stannard Wood
Dewey Worthey
Rick Allen Yale
Joseph A. Yasak
William Stanley Yingling
Phillip David Young
Keith Sanders
Darren Muci
John Scott (not a full pardon)
Anthony M Pilla
List of people commutations by Bill
Clinton:
Benjamin Berger
Ronald Henderson Blackley
Bert Wayne Bolan
Gloria Libia Camargo
Charles F. Campbell
David Ronald Chandler
Lau Ching Chin
Donald R. Clark
Loreta De-Ann Coffman
Derrick Curry
Velinda Desalus
Jacob Elbaum
Linda Sue Evans
Loretta Sharon Fish
Antoinette M. Frink
David Goldstein Honest to God… look it up!
Gerard A. Greenfield
Jodie E. Israel
Kimberly Johnson
Billy Thornton Langston Jr.
Belinda Lynn Lumpkin
Peter MacDonald – President of the Navajo Nation
Kellie Ann Mann
Peter Ninemire
Hugh Ricardo Padmore
Arnold Paul Prosperi
Melvin J. Reynolds – Democratic Congressman from Illinois – bank fraud and obstruction of justice
Pedro Miguel Riveiro
Dorothy Rivers – lead official in Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, plead guilty to theft of 1.2 million dollars in federal grant money
Susan Rosenberg
Kalmen Stern
Cory Stringfellow
Carlos Anibal Vignali – convicted of cocaine trafficking
Thomas Wilson Waddell III
Harvey Weinig
Kim Allen Willis
Kimba Smith
Antonio Camacho Negron – FALN militant
Oh yes, and then there are the U.S. Attorneys that Clinton fired en-masse when he took office. That of course was ok. When Bush’s A.G. fires a few of them he gets hounded to death in the media.
Screw you damned hypocrites.
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Your cave is calling. You should probably return to it before the big, nasty world scares the bejesus out of you. Our state is more dependent on international trade than any other state (I believe). A governor that gives a shit about economic interests in this state should get her ass out there and promote us. I’m glad we have a governor that cares about the big picture.
I would be happy to have a governor who did what she said she was going to do when campaigning…
She is one tax happy spend happy B who has accomplished nothing but pick pocketing the citizens of this state.
1.6 Bil in new raises to state employees, thousands of new hires. Ding Ding Ding
She really cares about the Big Picture allright….How about the small picture of the citizens in this states pocketbooks. They are sure gitting Picked clean these days.
HMMMM. A LOT OF RIGHT WING BULLSHIT IN THIS THREAD. WELL EITHER THINGS ARE GETTING DESPERATE OR THE MIGHTY WURLITZER IS KICKING INTO HIGH GEAR.
GET READY FELLOW LIBERALS TO KICK WINGNUT ASS!
I love being called a loser and a moron by people who don’t even have the balls to post under their own names.
Media Matters is nothing more than an arm of the Hillary campaign. And I expect you probably know it.
Media Matters is nothing more than an arm of the Hillary campaign.
KEEP GOING CRUCHON! WHERE’D YOU LEARN THAT ONE FROM? LIMBAUGH? O’REILLY? YOU ARE TOO HYSTERICAL!
ROSSI DOESN’T HAVE A PRAYER. PEOPLE DON’T LIKE A SORE LOSER ESPECIALLY AN EMPTY SUIT STUFFED WITH RIGHT-WING CASH.
Rossi took his loss with class, in case you didn’t notice. He didn’t scream and go hysterical like the left has done ever since Florida 2000. The left is populated with whining crybabies who SHOUT when things don’t go their way. Like for example,you, YOS LIB BRO.
Rossi took his loss with class
BY DRAGGING THE STATE THROUGH A HOPELESS ELECTION CONTEST. BY PUTTING UP BOGUS ARGUMENTS BEFORE A REPUBLICAN JUDGE IN A REPUBLICAN COUNTY AND GETTING DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE. BY INSULTING THE SUPREME COURT. BY WHINING AFTERWARDS IN INTERVIEWS.
DARRYL SAID IT HERE BEST:
Yes! Please, go for it, Dino! I want to see the Rossi 2008 “We Wuz Robbed” campaign tour!
Look out! The sore loser express is coming through, and you better get out of the way. Whooo woooo!
I think you sound a bit worried. I don’t know why. Liberals that have flooded this state in the past few years will re-elect Gregoire. I think you need to relax, maybe have a couple of beers.
CRUCHON, ONLY THREE THINGS WORRY ME: APATHY, COMPLACENCY AND THE BIAW.
Media Matters is nothing more than an arm of the Hillary campaign.
That’s one of the dumbest comments I’ve seen in a while, and, ’round here, that’s saying something.
The BIAW? Good god. Get out of the city once in a while.
CRUCHON @ 33
YOU’RE LOSING IT. WHAT DOES CLINTON’S DISMISSAL OF USA’S HAVE TO DO WITH PARDONS AND COMMUTATIONS?
DIDN’T RONNIE REAGAN DISMISS CARTER’S USA’S?
DIDN’T DUMBYA DISMISS CLINTON’S USA’S?
THE ISSUE IS SIMPLE – SHRUB FIRED THOSE USA’S WHEN THEY DIDN’T PLAY BALL ON ROVE’S VOTE SUPPRESSION STRATEGY. THEY COULDN’T BE TRUSTED FOR 2008 WHERE THE PLAN WAS TO REALLY KICK IT INTO GEAR!
THEN TO TOP IT ALL OFF, THEY SLIPPED THE REPLACEMENTS PASS THE SENATE WITHOUT CONFIRMATION! A LITTLE CLAUSE IN THAT PATRIOT ACT CAME IN HANDY THERE. HOW CONVENIENT.
BY THE WAY, CRUCHON, WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT “NON-PARTISAN” ORGANIZATION CALLED THE “AMERICAN CENTER FOR VOTING RIGHTS”.
TAKE A LOOK: http://WWW.AC4VR.COM
GONE IN THE SHIFTING WINDS OF ROVE’S FOILED TACTICS.
I imagine you are one of the kooks that also believe that Bush and Rove will somehow find a way to put the country under martial law before his term expires.
Get out of the city once in a while.
I GET AROUND CRUCHON. I CAN BE SEEN HOBNOBBING IN COWLITZ, GRAYS HARBOR, JEFFERSON, PACIFIC, SAN JUAN AND WHATCOM COUNTIES.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE IN COMMON?
47 – IMAGINE ANYTHING YOU WANT CRUCHON.
You may “get around” “YOS LIB BRO” but I have no idea what your point is and I’m not playing childish guessing games with you.
When you are done shouting, maybe you can answer my question I posed at #47.
FACE IT CRUCHON.
YOUR LIMBAUGH-SWILLING KIND HAS LOST.
What a mature, thoughtful response. It’s always more than a lot of fun trying to get a liberal to answer a direct question.
50 – YOU DIDN’T ASK A QUESTION. YOU LET YOUR “IMAGINATION” RUN WILD.
I’M NOT TAKING YOUR BAIT. GOOD NIGHT!
Bill Cruchon said:
Ok, this one I had to answer.
Have you read unSoundPolitics (pick any day) since the election?
You righties have been screaming that we stole it from Mr. Rossi, despite your hand-picked judge, your Republican Secretary of State and your Republican U.S. Attorney telling you that Ms. Gregoire won it fairly.
You folks were so mad about it that you got a U.S. Attorney fired because he wouldn’t make up evidence for you.
So, if you wish, we can also say that Vice President Gore and Senator Kerry didn’t scream, shout or get hysterical, despite considerable evidence that President Bush did not win fairly.
Yes, here in Washington, the Republican Secretary of State said Ms. Gregoire won fairly, while in Florida and Ohio, the Republican Secretaries of State (who also just happened to be active members of the Bush campaign) said that Mr. Bush won fairly.
Do you somehow think these situations are comparable?
Oh, joy! We now have a wingnut who has stooped to the “Clinton did it too!” defense complaining about the level of thought behind the responses to his thoughtless post. Of course, these wingnuts don’t engage their brains before spewing these talking points–it’s what makes them wingnuts in the first place.
What I really want to see is the mental gymnastics that these clowns are willing to go through in order to make the “Clinton did it too!” defense stick. So, with respect to Scooter Libby, which Clinton pardon or commutation will a wingnut use to conjure up even a whiff of being granted in order to keep the recipient from disclosing acts of wrong-doing on the part of members (e.g. the Vice-President) of Clinton’s administration?
Bill Cruchon said:
Thank you. Just for the record. I am a real estate agent. (That’s my ad over to the right of the page.) I am not a broker. If I were to call myself a broker in correspondence, or even on my business card, I would be subject to possible fines or even loss of my real estate license.
While a few folks here might have something against real estate agents in general, most of them simply expect us to be honest. That would include, in my not-so-humble opinion, identifying ourselves properly.
The difference between “broker” and “agent” is covered in the basic real estate course, and again in the “real estate practices” course every agent is required to take upon first license renewal.
I wonder what Mr. Rossi has against real estate agents, that he did not wish to be numbered among us?
Oh, and I do post under my own name.
re 47: Bush granted himself that power in the renewal of the Patriot Act. Why would he go to the trouble of doing that if the possibility were not being considered?
#57 It’s amazing how many of you lefties still cling to Bush conspiracy theories. I bet we won’t hear much from you after Hillary is inaugurated in January 2009. Sheesh!
#54 Oh gosh you’re right. I totally forgot about all those protest marches demanding that Gregoire be impeached.
re 58 & 59: One man’s “meeting” is another man’s conspiracy (Cheney’s secret energy meetings). The “you’re a conspiracy nut” meme doen’t work anymore.
The whole al Qaida thing is a supposed conspiracy. Are YOU some kind of conspiracy nut?
Bill Cruchon said:
Could it be that Ms. Gregoire hasn’t started a war, ruined our reputation throughout the world, fired U.S. Attorneys in mid-term because they weren’t partisan enough, but she has generally done a pretty good job as Governor?
Your comment was about Mr. Rossi’s behaviour, which I compared to Mr. Gore’s and Mr. Kerry’s behaviour.
I then compared the comments of Mr. Rossi’s supporters with those of Mr. Gore’s supporters and Mr. Kerry’s supporters.
The concept is “comparing like with like”, or more commonly, “comparing apples with apples”.
You, on the other hand, chose to compare the public comments of Mr. Rossi with the comments on this blog.
This would be called “comparing apples with oranges”, and unless you’re deserving of one of Mr. Engvall’s signs, I presume you understand the concept, but are deliberately trying to obfuscate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upXayzBPuzM