Darcy Burner: Leader

8th Congressional District Democratic challenger Darcy Burner has run two ads so far, and both feature her family’s history of military service. Both her father and husband have served in the military, and one of her brothers participated in the initial invasion of Iraq.

I’ve heard some criticism from Reichert boosters that this won’t play in her district… that the service of her family members won’t give Burner the credibility she seeks. But I think these critics are wrong. Every soldier we send overseas leaves a spouse and children and parents and siblings behind. There are many more voters in the 8th District who share Burner’s experience than there are who served in combat. Burner understands the incredible burden this war places on military families, because she comes from one.

Curiously, Burner rarely talks about her own service — the years she spent in the Civil Air Patrol (CAP) — even though it was obviously an enormously influential period of her life. Burner started at age 14 and quickly rose through the cadet ranks, becoming the executive officer of the Nebraska wing at age 16, and being named National Cadet of the Year in 1989.

Darryl of Hominid Views was intrigued by this biographical tidbit and has posted a fascinating and candid interview with Burner on the subject. It soon becomes clear that when Republicans criticize her lack of service or leadership experience, they are shooting blanks; Burner displayed extraordinary leadership at a very early age, and it is this experience that gave her many of the skills that have helped her succeed throughout her life.

Her military family background and CAP experience has also given her perspective on politics that I believe explains much of her appeal in a swing district like the 8th:

Most of the members of the Civil Air Patrol that I know are relatively conservative politically

Comments

  1. 1

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    “Fatwa Friday”……………..Carl, do you think Mrs. Grossman would mind if we BAR-B-Qed a couple of her llamas to feed the Democrat “jihad”? I think two would be enough. Lots of hungry HA.ORG posters are looking forward to the big day!!!!!!!

  2. 2

    skagit spews:

    hey skagit did you serve in the patrol with darcy.your and idiot.calling people cowards.military service in the patrol.do you get a pension.

    Commentby YO— 9/26/06@ 10:41 pm

    After all that ranting, you never did rebut the point did you? When you’re a coward, you’re a coward. Can’t get past it . . . And your Resident Idiot knows how to get you going. Terror! Terror! Terror! Are you scared enough yet to vote for the same ol same ol?

  3. 3

    Daddy Love spews:

    Man, I started reading about the Civil Air Patrol…it’s WAAAY too martial for me. I never would have joined. Uniform geeks.

  4. 4

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    If James Woolsey was head of CIA we would have had men in place. Instead we got a donk CIA man and he didn’t have the balls to put them there. Maybe he learned how to shoot cruise missiles from his former boss.

  5. 5

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    This Friday, soon to be known as “Fatwa Friday”, I will declare a “jihad” on stupid, dumb ass liberal Democrat posters on HA.ORG!!

  6. 6

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    JCH

    Good luck with that.

    Commentby Daddy Love— [Yeah.......the Moooooooolims and illegals are a strong part of the Democrat voting base.]

  7. 7

    Daddy Love spews:

    MWS

    So it was Think Progress. They gave page numbers; look it the fuck up. I’m not going to do it for you.

    So Clinton sent cruise missiles to kill bin Laden, and issed him by minutes, but Bush pulled the Special Forces out of Tora Bora and sent them to Iraq. Who tried harder to make America safe?

    Again, a no-brainer. Which means even you should get it.

  8. 8

    pbj spews:

    “Curiously, Burner rarely talks about her own service – the years she spent in the Civil Air Patrol (CAP) – even though it was obviously an enormously influential period of her life. Burner started at age 14 and quickly rose through the cadet ranks, becoming the executive officer of the Nebraska wing at age 16, and being named National Cadet of the Year in 1989.” – clownstein

    Hint for you clownstein, the Civil Air Ptrol is NOT a military service. I served you little weasel. If you hadn’t been hiding under your mommy’s skirt and actually served this nation’s military- you KNOW that.

    Oh, and Reichert served too – in the REAL MILITARY.

  9. 9

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Federal Agency Suppressed Report Linking Hurricanes to Global Warming

    Associated Press reports this morning that Nature magazine says NOAA administrators blocked a report by agency scientists “that suggests global warming is contributing to the frequency and strength of hurricanes.”

    Agency spokesmen claim the report was only a “draft” and an “internal document” and deny it was kept from the public for political reasons.

    But Sen. Frank R. Lautenberg, D-N.J., responded, “the administration has effectively declared war on science and truth to advance its anti-environment agenda … the Bush administration continues to censor scientists who have documented the current impacts of global warming.”

    For complete story and/or copyright info, see http://tinyurl.com/hojns

  10. 10

    Daddy Love spews:

    This is an insult to those of us who have actually served our country and those of us who have lost brothers in combat.

    Get he fuck over yourself. How far do you think Darcy has been from losing a brother in combat? I kinda think she understands.

    The Civil Air Patrol is NOT PUBLIC SERVICE!!!!!!!!!! It is a club that high school kids join and yes they usually do good things for the community.

    And we all know how different “doing good things for the community” is from “public service.” And how easy it is to win national awards. I’m sure you have several, correct?

    But if she has to run on actions that she took while a member a high school club, then it just goes to show how truly unqualified she is.

    Funny, but the whole point of Goldy’s post is that she’s NOT runing on that. Slow down. Breathe. Read for comprehension, not speed.

  11. 11

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    John Barelli, “National Defense Service Medal” ……..Agree [for once]. Even midshipman wear this………………………… My favorite is the deployment ribbon with 3 stars. [3 WESTPACs and 1 "IO"]

  12. 12

    klake spews:

    Goldy where are you sending your children to school today may change in Seattle after they review the cost to be so liberal with the tax payer money. You should send your daughter to the Eastside on that new light rail that Seattle is so proud about these days. Only in Seattle can you spend the most for a service and get nothing on the return for the investment. Wow! Socialist Democrats at their best.
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15024052/

    The district allows students to attend public schools anywhere in the city. Students who live near their school are expected to get there on their own. Free busing is provided for all other middle- and high-school students, and for elementary-school students who attend a school within the large geographic “cluster” in which they live.
    Because of this, Seattle spends more per student on transportation than the state’s other large school districts. About half the yearly transportation costs are paid by the state; the district covers the rest, mostly with local property-tax money.

  13. 13

    Daddy Love spews:

    MWS

    Where in the NIE does it offer any conclusions about successes or failures at present or in the past regarding Iraq?

    The “failure” of Iraq is that is sparked a HUGE increase in global terrorism, and, as the NIE reports, it is the incubator of a large and growing new generation of jihadist leaders, as the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan was the incubator of the current generation. I don’t know how you define “victory,” but whaever the military outcome in Iraq we will be feeling the effects (and fightng the children) of this incredible folly for at least a generation.

    So vote for Reichert and create more terrorists!

  14. 14

    Daddy Love spews:

    MWS

    Sure pal. James Woolsey, member of the Project for the New American Century, who thought Iraq was behind 9/11. Totally dedicated to getting SaddamOsama. Yeah, we could have counted on him. Clinton fired his ass in ’95.

  15. 15

    Daddy Love spews:

    Union Fireman @ 117

    Darcy didn’t lose her brother in combat

    So the people who wait at home to find out if their siblings will come back dead or alive only count if they come back dead? In my opinion, this says that if you served, you dishonor the families of those who served with you, and your own family.

    My problem is when she implies military service, by playing on her CAP record.

    Again, the whole point of the post is that she is NOT running on her CAP service. She was asked about it in an interview and told the truth, as we would expect a candidate for high office to do. Is that hard for you to understand or something?

    If you have evidence that she puts her CAP sevice in an ad, for example, I’m sure we’d all love to hear it. If it’s just on her site in her bio, it’s just more buiographical information. If Gay Pride Dave was a Scout, I wouldn’t think anything of his mentioning that he was a member of an organization that discriminates against gays.

    And the “implies military service” thing is just a crock the wingnuts made up. If you can’t tell the difference between what someone actually says and what’s in your head, you’re gonna have a hard, hard time in life, son. She SAYS in her ads, for example, that her father served, and her brother was serving in Iraq. If for some reason that makes YOUR head THINK that she’s saying that she is or was in the military, I’d say that’s your problem.

    I have been awarded numerous National medals. One most notable is my National Defense Medal.

    Then you know that they’re not easy to get, and to win one takes more than usual perseverance and performance. Admirable qualities, wouldn’t you say?

  16. 16

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    MWS Sure pal. James Woolsey, member of the Project for the New American Century, who thought Iraq was behind 9/11. Totally dedicated to getting SaddamOsama. Yeah, we could have counted on him. Clinton fired his ass in ‘95. Commentby Daddy Love— 9/27/06@ 12:29 pm

    The James Woolsey interview is an eye opener on Bill O’Reilly!

  17. 17

    Daddy Love spews:

    The NIE “key judgments” doc says a lot of interesting things. It says thisngs that each “side” can use, apparently.

    It says, for example, and I am paraphrasing here, that if the jihadists are “perceived” to have won in Iraq, it will “inspire more fighters to continue the struggle elsewhere,” but if they are “perceived” to have failed , then our intelligence agency’s opinion is that “fewer fighters will be inspired to carry on the fight.”

    Notive they didn’t say we ARE causign them to be preceived as having failed. The problem is that Bush and “staying the course” are NOT the way to “victory.” Maybe no one knows the exact solution, or what WILL work for us to get out of this with some sort of effective vistory, but we KNOW that what we’re doing now is not working. And ALL THE GOP IS OFFERING IS MORE OF THE SAME.

    Democrats are going to try to make this mess that Bush created work for us somehow. Republicans PROMISE more of the same. The choice IS clear.

  18. 18

    JDB spews:

    “No one serious about the Constitution would do that.”

    Loser Yellowback, John Craig, Doofus, pbj, sounds like your cue.

  19. 19

    spews:

    Something I understand a little better now. The Republicans hated everything Bill Clinton stood for, and did everything exactly the opposite of Bill Clinton out of spite. That is why Bill Clinton tried to kill Bin Laden repeatedly and openly, and Bush ignored him completely, even after numerous warnings. They had to be 180 degrees different…..

    Maybe you righties should read the 4 declassified pages of the NIE before you comment any more. Your Fuhrer’s little war for political capitol is making terrorists far faster than we can ever kill them. Don’t complain if your children have to sacrifice for Bush’s lies with their lives.

    If you are going to support Bush, and his Republican sleazebag friends like Reichert, better buy funeral plots for your family. Soon because of Bush, and his partners in crime like Reichert, the terrorists will start to look like the bugs in space troopers…. the orcs in Lord of the Rings.

    Get my drift. Al Queda is 500% larger than on 9-11. I wonder who is to blame for that fact. Clinton?

    Freaks.

    I blame Reichert, just as much as Bush. He is a fraud. A tool. DeLay’s butt boy. A rubber stamp retard voting against the American People at ever turn.

    Hey Dave, why did you vote for a budget that left no additional funding for the VA? Even with our boys coming home blown to bits by the planeload.

    Thank Patty Murry into guilting 1 BILLION dollars out of the Republican crooks for emergency VA funding by calling them out. I remember the interview the day after they passed the budget with no additional VA funding.

    A Republican’s idea of supporting the troops is to send them off to die in a war based on lies with improper gear, body armor, and medical attention when they get home.

    Maggots.

  20. 20

    spews:

    #38 ” Why not run on her vast voting record, oh wiat not good there. ”

    You know I would sure be attacking her for her non existant voting record if I had a voting record like Rubber Stamp Reichert.

    If helping the crooked Bush Administration destroy America is what a congressman is supposed to do the Reichert is doing a great job!

    What investigations has he called for? Implemented? This Reichert dirt bag is connected at the hip to Tom DeLay, one of the biggest pieces of human scum to ever serve (sic) in congress.

    So since we are bringing so many soldiers home in gurneys, how much has the VA budget increased lately? Adjusted for inflation?

    The Bush Animals are taking care of their rich friends, not our troops. Reichert is part of this nightmare.

    By the way Mr. Reichert what is your grade on getting the 9-11 reccomendations implemented? FFFFCFFCFFFFF?

    If you think we are safer now because of Republicans the people in the white coats could be just around the corner to take you away.

    Republicans are maggots, and America is their host.

    Our congress needs fumigated. By the way, how many Republicans got indicted for corruption this week?

    By the way, if you want to know why Iraq is such a disaster, read how Bush only sent republican hack children to manage the rebuilding right after the war. Incompetence beyond criminal.

    http://rawstory.com/showoutart.....00193.html

    You might as well just hand Iraq off to the “insurgents”.

    http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0924-13.htm

    Bush wanted chaos. There is no way anyone could make as many mistakes as they did in Iraq accidently. The more chaos, the higher the price of oil. If you don’t believe me, just look at the profits of the people that fund Bush’s campaign. Everyone is getting rich, and our troops are getting turned to hamburger.

    Reality

    America may never recover from the damage Bush, and this Republican Congress has caused.

  21. 21

    spews:

    ” Daddy Love going to the well of moonbattiness Think Progress. They don’t think and there will be no progress. So what does that prove? Did Clarke authorize those Cruise Missiles? Now that’s an interesting question. I see Clinton took credit for Congress trying to balance the budget when he submitted larger budgets that the Congress authorized, so did he take credit for Clarke’s work?!? Many moonbats say Bush authorized the Bin Laden family to leave when Clarke’s testimony on the hill says otherwise. At least you didn’t you the racist hindend Kos as your Encyclopedia!

    Commentby Mike Webb SUCKS— 9/27/06@ 7:04 am

    What? Clarke was told to let them go, and testified that he signed off on it. Bin Laden’s family members didn’t call Clarke to get away, Bush’s people did. Clark is a true patriot and was trying to cover for Bush like he thought he should have. (fool) He didn’t know supporting Bush in any way was going to hurt our country this bad.

    The problem with you righties is the fact that there are no facts that support any of your positions. How can you support torture, warrantless wiretapping, WP use on civilians, more torture, even more torture, incompetence, no accountability, daily lies, lies, and more lies.

    Being Republican these days must be hard.

    Defending the indefensable.

    Maybe a whole bunch of negative ads will win you some elections. I just can’t wait. One thing is for sure. Republicans sure won’t be running on their records…… If corruption, incompetence, and dishonesty is what the people want the Republicans should do well.

    When is the last time a Republican told the truth about anything. Heck Condi was caught in a bold faced lie just yesterday.

    When our secretary of state is lying her ass off, how do you think the world percieves this? She has less than zero credibility worldwide. The only people that respect her are the cave dwellers in America, and they are even getting scarce.

    Condi can’t name one single action Bush took to get Bin Laden in the 8 months before 9-11. I know Republicans don’t care, becuase they have been brainwashed into ignoring simple facts like this. Tow the party line, tow the party line. To hell with facts!!!

  22. 25

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Daddy Love going to the well of moonbattiness Think Progress. They don’t think and there will be no progress. So what does that prove? Did Clarke authorize those Cruise Missiles? Now that’s an interesting question. I see Clinton took credit for Congress trying to balance the budget when he submitted larger budgets that the Congress authorized, so did he take credit for Clarke’s work?!? Many moonbats say Bush authorized the Bin Laden family to leave when Clarke’s testimony on the hill says otherwise. At least you didn’t you the racist hindend Kos as your Encyclopedia!

  23. 27

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Mexico City – Clouds of locusts have descended around the Mexican beach resort of Cancun, destroying corn crops and worrying officials in a region still recovering from the devastating fury of last year’s Hurricane Wilma. Traveling in dark fogs, locusts are grasshoppers that have entered a swarming phase, capable of covering large distances and rapidly stripping fields of vegetation. [.........................................................................................................................................Dear Teresa and Carl, Maybe a little Cancun vacation this time of year might bring back the "love" in your relationship.]

  24. 28

    Daddy Love spews:

    MWS

    Wow. Umm, MikeWS, that was a TV show.

    As for Tora Bora, Gary Berntsen, a former senior CIA agent once tasked with finding bin Laden, said Bush fell short by letting bin Laden slip away at Tora Bora, Afghanistan.

    A Washington Times editorial calls letting Osama get away at Tora Bora a “major mistake.”

    Investigative reporter Ron Suskind, in his book The One Percent Doctrine: Deep Inside America’s Pursuit of Its Enemies Since 9/11 (Simon & Schuster, June 2006), reports that the CIA official managing the Afghanistan campaign, Henry A. “Hank” Crumpton (now the State Department’s counterterrorism chief), brought a detailed map to Bush and Cheney. White House accounts have long insisted that Bush had every reason to believe that Pakistan’s army and pro-U.S. Afghan militias had bin Laden cornered and that there was no reason to commit large numbers of U.S. troops to get him. But Crumpton’s message in the Oval Office, as told through Suskind, was blunt: The surrogate forces were “definitely not” up to the job, and “we’re going to lose our prey if we’re not careful.”

    I’m sure you have your sources.

  25. 32

    JDB spews:

    Great article on what the NIE actually says. Not what Bush and his supporters want you to think:

    But Bush was clearly wrong to suggest that the Times mischaracterized the NIE. The document he released says what the New York Times reported. Hey, don’t take my word for it. Read it yourself, below and on the following three pages.

    http://www.slate.com/id/2150435/entry/0/

  26. 33

    Anonymous spews:

    45 “But it won’t be anytime soon. Puddy has fall monetary acquisition events to tend too! This economy s great moonbats!”

    Comment by Puddybud Nagin Need Mo Money — 9/27/06 @ 12:19 am

    Special comment:

    Monetary acquisition events are where Mrs Pudwhacker waits in the car while Pudwhacker holds up 7-11′s and other Mini-marts.

    (JCH is the one who ratted him out. We all know know how JCH feels about black MoFo’s. They are all criminals and they all vote Democrats)

    I wonder why Pudwhacker has always felt that JCH was one of his homeys. JCH hates Blacks.

  27. 34

    spews:

    Batiste “We asked for more troops, our requests were turned down” “we are playing a shell game” etc.

    Bush: “We give the leaders the troops they ask for”.

    Lie

    Quote from General Batiste : “Losing one American life due to incompetent war planning and preparation is absolutely unacceptable,” said General Batiste, who was a senior military assistant to then-Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz and commander of the 1st Infantry Division. “The work to remove Saddam Hussein and his regime was a challenge, but it pales in comparison to the hard work required to build the peace. The detailed deliberate planning to finish the job in Iraq was not considered as Secretary Rumsfeld forbade military planners from developing plans for securing a post-war Iraq. At one point, he threatened to fire the next person who talked about the need for a post-war plan. Our country and incredible military were not set up for success.”

  28. 35

    JDB spews:

    Now here is something that needs to be reposted:

    When Sager asked [Dick] Armey, “What’s wrong with today’s Republican Congress,” Armey replied:

    The criteria of choice in just about every behavior you see in Congress today is politics. Where in the hell did this Terri Schiavo thing come from? There’s not a conservative, Constitution-loving, separation-of-powers guy alive in the world that could have wanted that bill on the floor. That was pure, blatant pandering to James Dobson. That’s all that was. It was silly, stupid, and irresponsible. Nobody serious about the Constitution would do that. But the question was will this energize our Christian conservative base for the next election.

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200609260013

  29. 36

    Daddy Love spews:

    MWS

    The Christian Science Monitor is indeed a good sourse, but it does not corroborate your claims. The NY Times is again a good source, but they confirm what the CS Montior says and we already knew, that we held back the best military in the world—ours—and outsourced the job to local militias. And those corrupt Afghan tribesmen helped bin Laden ascape.

    But the “sepcialty” of Special Forces is that they know and understand the locals. Of Course Tommy Franks is a dumbshit when it comes to assessing the capabilities and intentions of local forces. And of course he does not know how to get them to work on his side. That’s what the Special Forces do. Were we using them or not?

    And, of course, it has only come out recently (MY source) that the very top level of American government was told in no uncertain terms by the CIA official managing the Afghanistan campaign that we were in danger of losing the man responsible for the most horrendous attack ever perpetrated on US soil because we weren’t comitting enough troops. This leaves the entire calculation up the the president and presumably other suich as Rumsfeld and Cheney, who had to weigh the political cost of underestimating and exsentially letting him go. I mean, in December of 2001 wasn’t Bin Laden the most wanted criminal in the world, bar none? But they did.

  30. 37

    Leftout(of their minds!) spews:

    Darcy wants to be like Hillary. Mealy-mouthed.
    GO HILLARY GO!
    “I think my husband did a great job in demonstrating that Democrats are not going to take these attacks,” Hillary Clinton said. “I’m CERTAIN that if my husband and his national security team had been shown a classified report entitled ‘Bin Laden Determined To Attack Inside the United States’ he would have taken it more seriously than history suggests it was taken by our current president and his national security team.”
    “However, I was also CERTAIN my husband was not getting blowjobs from that fatass intern”, Mrs. Clinton added.

  31. 38

    Daddy Love spews:

    According to a recent Gallup Panel survey, the American public puts the primary blame on Bush rather than Clinton for the fact that bin Laden has not been captured. A majority of Americans say Bush is more to blame (53%), compared with 36% blaming Clinton.

  32. 39

    Facts Support My Positions spews:

    Where did you go Klake?

    I know, I handed your ass to you. I am sorry. I just love my country, and want a better future, for me, and you too.

    Come into the light.

    Shed the hypocracy of the right wing liars, and come into the light.

    It will be great taking positions on issues that all facts support.

  33. 40

    Facts Support My Positions spews:

    It is amzaing how you an criticize anyone with the Clinton Administration, when the Republicans were working to destroy the country and block every single thing they did to protect America, and make us “all” better off. You then support the lying traitors in that currently occupy the White House.

    YOu people are sick.

    Compared to Bush, Clinton was a god.

    Imagine, a president with a brain, who could actually finish a whole sentence, even without a teleprompter……

    Bush is a disgrace, and his supporters are the most hideous of traitors.

  34. 41

    spews:

    Sorry Goldie. I must have chased all the right wing turd brains away. That is what facts do I guess….. They probably went to the right wing blogs where they delete posts from people like me, because all my posts are based in fact, not fantasy….

    A bunch of retards agreeing with each other, typing from their caves, or fallout shelters….

    How retarded must one be these days to call yourself a Republican?

  35. 42

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Any asshole dicksucker on this board can claim to be a veteran.
    What’s that sound? JCH running!

    Commentby RightEqualsStupid [.....OK.......The question: "high, low, medium, "J" Band homer".........Are there any Navy types onboard HA. ORG that can identify?] A Hershey bar for the correct answer…………….[You too, Chief!! E-3 GBS, this is above your paygrade, but you can play.]

  36. 43

    Union Fireman spews:

    DaddyLove,

    Watch her ad. It shows her in her CAP Uniform and implies Militaery service. There is no doubt that is what she is aiming for. Just watch the commercial(s) and have an open mind (Not left wing closed). She talks about military service, while pictures of her in her unifom flash across the screen. What part of implying military service is so hard for you to understand? Just watch it. Tell you what, take a copy to your local VFW and ask those that have actually served what they think of it.

    Look at post 51. The idiot talks about losing her brother in combat. It didn’t happen. Again with the selective reading and understanding.

    As far as my medal, I earned it serving this nation of ours during a conflict. She went to weekly meeting in a CAP uniform. There is a deffinate distinction.

    Oh yeah and by the way, it would appear that Darcy’s family have voluntarily joined organizations that disciminate against gays (Military), so get over yourself.

  37. 44

    sillyguy spews:

    33 John – It is interesting to step back a foot or two and look at the forest. The tittering, sputtering, and obnoxious ads coming from both sides reminds me of what happened back in World War I when both sides claimed to have God on their side. Now, each party is claiming moral superiority when exactly the opposite is true.

    In this case I disagree with your point that ‘only’ the Republicans are at fault for what is occurring as both parties are being equally obnoxious.

    Tim

  38. 45

    Facts Support My Positions spews:

    ” Again the donk are revisionists. Google the Richard Clarke testimony and he says “I authorized them [Bin Laden Family] to leave”!

    Dunces all of you!

    Commentby Mike Webb SUCKS— 9/27/06@ 9:46 am ”

    So, you think Clarke authorized their “escape” all by himself, without authorization for those above him? Like Bush? What are you smoking? When it comes to revising history the “left” needs to revise nothing. Only the sleazebags making all the misgakes. Bush, and his rubber stamp congress……

    Why do you continue to support known liars, and traitors? Any fool can see through their smoke screen.

  39. 46

    JDB spews:

    Three years ago, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld wrote a memo to his colleagues in the Pentagon posing a critical question in the “long war’’ against terrorism: Is Washington’s strategy successfully killing or capturing terrorists faster than new enemies are being created?

    Until Tuesday, the government had not publicly issued an authoritative answer. But the newly declassified National Intelligence Estimate on terrorism does exactly that, and it concludes that the administration has failed the Rumsfeld test.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09.....ref=slogin

  40. 47

    rhp6033 spews:

    Make sure your friends and co-workers anticipate the coming attack ads from the Republicans. They won’t be from the candidates themselves, they will be from well-funded “independent” entities, like the “SwiftBoat” ads. They will come at the last minute, and they will be full of lies, calculated to leave too little time to respond. And McGavick will pretend to be “civil” and “above it all”, daring Cantwell to respond in kind. But he will know all about them – Rove has already told him how the money is going to be spent. That’s why McGavick is showing such a fund-raising deficit. It’s all going to non-campaign entities, who will do the dirty work on his behalf. If you know Rove, its as predictable as clockwork.

    But if everyone is anticipating the ads, they will be poison to the Republicans. Every add will be another reason to vote for a Democrat.

  41. 48

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    RubberStampReichert served in the mess corps – the asshole was like his daddy Baby Bush who went AWOL from the NG. RubberStamp was in the reserves. Only combat he saw was a pair of balls smacking him in the face while he sucked dick.

    The punk has about as much military experience as Rush Limbaugh.

    And no doubt Darcy’s climb in the polls has him worried.

  42. 49

    Union Fireman spews:

    Actually, I am a male and the recognized male term for my profession is Fireman. Firefighting is what I do, Fireman is what I am. Also, Darcy didn’t lose her brother in combat, you twits.

    And I will tell you what Mr. Barelli… Let’s take a poll of all the Career and Reserve Military members out there and ask them whether or not they believe that implying military service by showing yourself in a CAP uniform and talking about veterans is the right thing to do. My brother was in the CAP and he achieved a much higher distinction than Darcy, Does that mean that he is more qualified? I never said that the CAP didn’t do a good job. My problem is when she implies military service, by playing on her CAP record. That is wrong and you know it.

    #51, actuially yes, I have been awarded numerous National medals. One most notable is my National Defense Medal.

    Hey, how did that Union Firefams endorsement that Darcy said she was going to get go? Oh wait, just another time where she runs her mouth and says things that aren’t true.

  43. 50

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    “Most of the members of the Civil Air Patrol that I know are relatively conservative politically–far more Republican than Democrat.”………….That’s OK. Most welfare hacks and “guvment” union employees are Democrats.

  44. 51

    John Barelli spews:

    ““I have been awarded numerous National medals. One most notable is my National Defense Medal.”

    Would that be the “National Defense Service Medal” that is issued to anyone that makes it through recruit training? Yes, I’ve got one of them too (along with a pile of others), and while I have no problem giving a medal to anyone that volunteers for the military, it’s hardly something to brag about.

    It is awarded for being in the military in a time of conflict, not for actually being in the conflict. Even military members that have never left their home state except for recruit training get that medal. Do you have the Southwest Asia Service Medal, or any of the others given for actually serving in the combat area? (And before you ask, yes, I do have that one along with a few others.)

    Whether you call yourself a “fireman” or a “firefighter” seems a pretty small disagreement. Call yourself whatever you like, you certainly rate a degree of respect for taking on a dangerous job that benefits the community.

    But if you’re complaining about Ms. Burner in a CAP uniform while bragging about a National Defense Service Medal, perhaps you should re-think your priorities.

  45. 52

    Daddy Love spews:

    Seaking of raq increasing terrorism, here’s a chart (based on the statistics collected by the CIA and supplied to the Department of State) that really shows the bad news (excerpt):

    The statistics tell a very clear and simple story (I bet someone who can read My Pet Goat can figure it out).

    - The total number of international terrorist incidents, both significant and non-significant, declined until 2002.
    - The number of significant incidents increased steadily starting in 1992.
    - Most of the significant incidents were caused by radical Islamic extremists.
    - 2004 marked the single, largest increase in terrorist activity ever recorded since the CIA started keeping records dating back to 1968.
    - The four-fold increase in significant terrorist incidents (attacks in which people were killed and wounded) was a direct consequence of the war in Iraq. All you have to do is look at the attacks recorded and the people killed and wounded in those attacks. Iraq and India were the big targets in 2004.
    - According to information provided at the U.S. State Department in 2005, there were approximately 198 significant terrorist attacks in Iraq in 2004. This was nine times more than the 22 significant terrorist attacks in Iraq identified in the State Department’s 2003 report. Indeed, the number of significant terrorist attacks in Iraq in 2004 exceeded the 175 significant terrorist attacks that occurred throughout the entire world in 2003.

    An NIE isn’t issued every day. It sometimes takes weeks to write and coordinate. Even the decision to prepare an NIE in the first place is a painstaking one. It is a BIG DEAL, in other words. An NIE is not a single report from a single agency, but represents the considered judgment of the entire intelligence community (16 different agencies, in theory) on a subject deemed to be of vital significance to makers of national security and foreign policy. But several of the lawmakers who appeared on Sunday talk shows said they had not seen the classified document, and Congressional officials said neither the House nor the Senate intelligence committees had been formally briefed on the report.

    If key members of Congress (like Majority Leader Bill Frist, who claimed ignorance of this report), and neither the House nor the Senate intelligence committees, have seen the document since it was produced in April, then we have to ask ourselves whether the “brains” of the United States Government (presumably those who formulate and carry out national policy) are simply not interested in making use of the best information and advice available to them?

    Once again we are witnessing the Bush Administration trying to ignore the bad news that the intelligence community is trying to tell the President. The willful ignorance of President Bush, his advisors, and his Congressional rubber stampers is creating a more dangerous world. Just remember that when we are hit again by a mass casualty attack.

  46. 53

    tedious troll spews:

    it’s all Clinton’s fault. Left wing loonies. Bush bashers. Guvmint hacks. Rush is right. Rush is right. Rush is right.
    gotta fight ‘em over there…over there…over there…over…over…
    librul terrerrist luvers….lib….lib…

    “jihad” on stupid, dumb ass liberal “jihad” on stupid, dumb ass liberal “jihad” on stupid, dumb ass liberal “jihad” on stupid, dumb ass liberal “jihad” on stupid, dumb ass liberal

    lather, rinse, repeat lather, rinse, repeat lather, rinse, repeat lather, rinse, repeat lather, rinse, repeat

    hello Dave. Dave, what are you doing? Dave….Dave……

  47. 54

    spews:

    Go ahead and vote for lying corrupt traitors. That is what Republicans do these day.

    Rove = Traitor (obvious)
    Cheney = Liar, Traitor (is there a word worse than traitor?)
    Bush = War Criminal (will be at the Hague soon enough)
    Rice – Liar, Traitor (mushroom cloud?)
    Reichert = Accomplice to above crimes (will be voted out soon)

    Republican = LYING CORRUPT TRAITOR

    And to think I used to be a Republican…..

  48. 55

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    22

    If you had an ounce of concern for our veterans, you wouldn’t vote Republican. BTW, sillyguy, how is your constitutional amendment to require revotes in close elections going? Has that thing gotten off the ground yet? http://tinyurl.com/rrpry

    HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

  49. 56

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    James Woolsey didn’t drink the Clinton Kool-Aid and didn’t like Janet Reno. Now history is proving why Janet Reno was the worst USAG EVER!

  50. 57

    RUFUS Fitzgerald Kennedy spews:

    “Fatwa Friday”, Carl!!! It’s coming, and soon!!!!!!!!!

    Commentby Doctor JCH Kennedy— 9/26/06@ 8:36 pm

    Hey what the hell happened to “terror Tuesday”?

  51. 58

    Puddybud Nagin Need Mo Money spews:

    I read in another thread Richard is upset at the guttersniping of JCH and HowCan on poooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooor Carl. Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! Sorry, as I said before sympathy is between shit and syphilis in the dictionary so he won’t be getting any from me.

    For the record Richard Pope, Carl is as twisted in words as Left turdball and his many alter egos and rudejerx! So cry me a river over poooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooor Carl

    I would be for Goldy to deliver me the name of the racist guttersnipe headless lucy if he is going to out Carl’s great friends here on ASSWipes. I would make a personal visit to headless’ place of work. Oh yes, I’d bring friends in law enforcement so he couldn’t claim I attacked him. But his work day would be interesting when I place for his coworkers the written words of headless lucy.

    So Goldy you have a challenge if you choose to accept. You can decide to post Carl’s attackers names and you MUST give me headless lucy. For the record if Goldy posts, I want to meet Cluelessness too. Me going down to Librully Drunkenness is not my style. I would need to bring some Rainier Ave thugs to watch my back as you can’t trust libruls. That’s why the Friday night matchup between americafirst and carl will be the one to watch.

    Who cares about Pelletizer. I don’t need the name of a shell of a man! Anyone who claims to screw animals and enjoy it even in hyperbolic metaphors is not someone I need to meet in person! Personally, I think Pelletizer has feet the size of a barge the way he claims he’ll kick his adversaries!

    BTW Carl I am taller than you! And that’s after my spinal compression incident.

  52. 60

    JDB spews:

    MWS:

    A worse AG than John Ashcroft, who’s major achievement during the actual war on terror was covering up the nude statues in the AG’s office?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  53. 61

    skagit spews:

    JDB: ”
    If Bush holds above 45% in a few polls, worry. 40% just means the base figures it has nowhere else to go. Look at how loony the wingnuts are around here. It’s schism time.”

    Only excerpts (approved by Bush) have come out. He’s fearmongering again . . . he thinks the NIE report will help him. More terrorism, more terrorism, more terrorism . . . can’t you see it.

    And these whiny righties, these cowards, will fall for it. I worry too.

  54. 62

    Daddy Love spews:

    Bush: “We give the leaders the troops they ask for”.

    Lie

    “In an unprecedented move that underlines the dire state of relations between the uniformed military and their civilian leaders, the Army’s chief of staff, General Peter Schoomaker, has refused to submit his 2008 budget to the Pentagon.

    “He made his protest after the White House and Congress ordered deep cuts to the Army’s requests. It reflects a growing sense among generals that their forces are being stretched to their limits by their commitments in Iraq and Afghanistan without receiving adequate funding to fulfill them.”

  55. 63

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    75

    Shove that up your ass, Reddick! P.S., pay your gambling debt! Hey Reddick — if global warming is bunk, why do Republican politicians feel they have to keep government scientists from going public with their findings?

  56. 64

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    When we are hit with a mass casualty attack, we’ll determine the Gorelick Wall, the ACLU support for the enemy, talking nice to the enemy instead of extracting their attack plans, and the lack of listening to calls to bad guys overseas will be the call to action of the American Public to stop listening to moonbat whom have no safety plan for America!

  57. 65

    Daddy Love spews:

    Courtesy of Think Progess, what the 9/11 commission report REALLY SAYS: Condoleeza Rice and her boss George Bush ignored Al Qaeda right up until they killed 3,000 Americans.

    “The 9/11 Commission Report contradicts Rice’s claims. On December 4, 1998, for example, the Clinton administration received a President’s Daily Brief entitled “Bin Ladin Preparing to Hijack US Aircraft and Other Attacks.” Here’s how the Clinton administration reacted, according to the 9/11 Commission report:

    “The same day, [Counterterrorism Czar Richard] Clarke convened a meeting of his CSG [Counterterrorism Security Group] to discuss both the hijacking concern and the antiaircraft missile threat. To address the hijacking warning, the group agreed that New York airports should go to maximum security starting that weekend. They agreed to boost security at other East coast airports. The CIA agreed to distribute versions of the report to the FBI and FAA to pass to the New York Police Department and the airlines. The FAA issued a security directive on December 8, with specific requirements for more intensive air carrier screening of passengers and more oversight of the screening process, at all three New York area airports. [pg. 128-30]

    “On August 6, 2001, the Bush administration received a President’s Daily Brief entitled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike U.S.” Here’s how the Bush administration reacted, according to the 9/11 Commission report:

    [President Bush] did not recall discussing the August 6 report with the Attorney General or whether Rice had done so.[p. 260]

    We have found no indication of any further discussion before September 11 among the President and his top advisers of the possibility of a threat of an al Qaeda attack in the United States. DCI Tenet visited President Bush in Crawford, Texas, on August 17 and participated in the PDB briefings of the President between August 31 (after the President had returned to Washington) and September 10. But Tenet does not recall any discussions with the President of the domestic threat during this period. [p. 262]

    Rice acknowledged that the 9/11 Commission report is the authoratative source on this debate: ‘I think this is not a very fruitful discussion. We’ve been through it. The 9/11 commission has turned over every rock and we know exactly what they said.’”

  58. 66

    Daddy Love spews:

    Did I mention that the CIA field commander for the agency’s Jawbreaker team at Tora Bora, Gary Berntsen, says that he had definitive intelligence that bin Laden was holed up at Tora Bora—intelligence operatives had tracked him—and could have been caught. “He was there,” Berntsen told NEWSWEEK.

    Not surprisingly, former CENTCOM commander Gen. Tommy Franks has said, “We don’t know to this day whether Mr. bin Laden was at Tora Bora in December 2001…Bin Laden was never within our grasp.”

    Berntsen says Franks is “a great American. But he was not on the ground out there. I was. “In his book—titled Jawbreaker—the decorated career CIA officer also criticizes Donald Rumsfeld’s Defense Department for not providing enough support to the CIA and the Pentagon’s own Special Forces teams in the final hours of Tora Bora. That backs up other recent accounts, including that of military author Sean Naylor, who called Tora Bora a “strategic disaster” because the Pentagon refused to deploy a cordon of conventional forces to cut off escaping Qaeda and Taliban members.

    How many of those who participated have to speak out?

  59. 67

    Daddy Love spews:

    klake

    The point is:
    A) We’re NOT “engaging the enemy.” We’re in Iraq, and our enemy is in paKistan. Would you like a map?
    B) The “enemy” you’re thinking of used to be called “Iraqis” and they want us the fuck out of their country. I wonder why?

  60. 68

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/.....pdate.html is a good source Daddy Love.

    “After-action reviews, conducted privately inside and outside the military chain of command, describe the episode as a significant defeat for the United States. A common view among those interviewed outside the US Central Command is that Army Gen. Tommy R. Franks, the war’s operational commander, misjudged the interests of putative Afghan allies and let pass the best chance to capture or kill al Qaeda’s leader. Without professing second thoughts about Tora Bora, Franks has changed his approach fundamentally in subsequent battles, using Americans on the ground as first-line combat units.
    In the fight for Tora Bora, corrupt local militias did not live up to promises to seal off the mountain redoubt, and some colluded in the escape of fleeing Al Qaeda fighters.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09.....nted=print has it well.

    “A week or so after General Mattis’s request was denied, the turning point in the battle of Tora Bora came. It was Dec. 12. Hajji Zaman had by now realized that the Qaeda fighters were better armed than his men and that they were also prepared to die rather than surrender to him. He was also becoming increasingly irritated with Hazarat Ali and with the snow. And in a few days the feast of Eid al-Fitr, which ends Ramadan, would begin. The stalemate, the Americans’ surrogate commander decided, simply had to end. So, through a series of intermediaries and then directly, Hajji Zaman made radio contact with some of bin Laden’s commanders and offered a cease-fire. The Americans were furious. The negotiations – to which Hazarat Ali acquiesced since he, too, was now holding secret talks with Al Qaeda – continued for hours. By the time they came to an end, Hajji Zaman’s interlocutor, hidden somewhere in the caves above, was probably bin Laden’s son Salah Uddin. If the Qaeda forces surrendered, Hajji Zaman’s contact said, it would be only to the United Nations. Then he requested additional time to meet with other commanders. He would be back in touch by 8 the following morning, the younger bin Laden said.”

    It was Ramadam time and many of the Afghans wanted to pray and meditate!

  61. 69

    JDB spews:

    Strange how all the wingnuts seem to have problems reading as the NIE that Bush said he wasn’t going to release, and then had to release (flip-flop much?) says exactly what the Times said it said:

    The Iraq war has not made us safer and has produced more terrorist.

    Thanks George Bush!

  62. 70

    Gordy spews:

    A Fireman stokes boilers on trains, what Local do you belong to? Comment by a Union Firefighter.

  63. 71

    Facts Support My Positions spews:

    ” 1. A Republican’s idea of supporting the troops is to send them off to die in a war based on lies with improper gear, body armor, and medical attention when they get home.
    Maggots.
    Commentby Facts Support My Positions— 9/26/06@ 10:22 pm
    Funny boy you need to find new reading material, not that crap you get from Mike (fat-man) Moore. They did not tell me any lies when I went into the Middle East when LBJ was running the country nor any other administration since. You never get the latest gear in any war and we receive the best medical attention since the Civil War. That might explain the low lost of lives on the battle field today. The other factors could be there aren’t any Liberals in the fox hole next to you; they are at home hiding behind or under mommies dress. Meat heads like yourself are making a political event about this war and not supporting the folks in winning. You all side with the enemies of this nation, always critical those who are defending this country, or methods of engaging the enemy. Maybe you could get a uniform on and show us fools how it’s done, but cowards never make a post using their real name either. To make it short; facts you lack and you totally disregard history when you make statements is your glaring problem. Lighten up on the Presidents past and present until those who are at our gates are defeated. ”

    I commend you for your service. I would just like to say that according to the latest NIE leaked (thankfully) we have far more people at our gates that need defeated. And more joining them every day. Dammit.

    Better not read this.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/w.....nter_x.htm

    1. As far as Democrats lying to start wars, they should also be prosecuted alongside the Bush Regime.
    2. I haveen’t read anything Michael Moore has ever written. I read the news. The 10% that squeaks through the cracks withe the GOP gatekeepers standing on the media. If you don’t think there are GOP gatekeepers look at what happened to Dan Rather, and Phil Donohue.
    3. There are a lot of liberals in the fox holes by the way. I also know according to a poll 80% of the troops interviewed for that poll thought we invaded Iraq to pay Saddam back for helping with the 9-11 attacks. Where your troops get their information really bothers me if I am to believe this poll.
    4. As far as winning, how could we possibly win anything Klake with retarded liars like Bush, and Rummy calling the shots. My god man, they couldn’t lead their way off a playground. I bet you couldn’t name ONE GOD DAMNED THING THEY DID RIGHT IN IRAQ. ZERO!!!!! They do make sure there are no pictures taken of flag draped coffins coming home by the score though.
    5. Me / us making this war political? My god man wake up. This war has been a political tool for the GOP ever since Rove wrote how he could use a war for political gain in his book. Wake the F*CK UP!!! It just backfired, and now they are obviously trying to lie their way out of it. It only washes with people with misplaced patriotism like yourself.
    6. Engaging the enemy, I am all for. You, me, and the rest of the world would support our going after Al Queda, and the people that attacked us. The problem you won’t accept is the fact that these people were not in Iraq. No matter how much spin O’Riley, Rush, and Hannity blow up your ass attacking Iraq (for political, and financial gain) is hurting our efforts to fight terrorism. All facts support this. All studies. All trends. Period. End of story. Get with the program.

    Killing, or causing the deaths of 100,000 INNOCENT MUSLIMS is what you call “engaging” the enemy. No wonder they are joining Al Queda by the Camel Train. Think about it.

    Why don’t you demand our president tell the truth, instead of supporting his lies, and ignoring his mistakes.

    Go ahead and support these liars. It only shows how misinformed you are.

    The good news is there are fewer kool-aid drinkers every day. The NIE pretty much destroyed their credibility for good. Maybe Bush, and Rice should actually read the NIE…..

    I will not lighten up sorry. Our president has been a failure by any measure when it comes to fighting terror. He should be impeached, tried, and hung for his crimes, and treason. Period. If you accepted reality, you would be screaming for his impeachment right alongside me.

    God I hope the next president does a better job.

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    skagit spews:

    JDB: You’re just missing the points here . . .

    “The excerpts from the intelligence report pointed to a spread of terrorist activity globally for at least the next five years and said terrorists were adapting to the tactics used against them. “If this trend continues, threats to U.S. interests at home and abroad will become more diverse, leading to increasing attacks worldwide,” they said.”

    Sorry to post again, but Bush’s whole strategy is to scare the pants off his constituents. This is old stuff here and it’s worked before. You think it won’t work again with these cowardly fools?

    Think like Rove . . .

  65. 75

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    All posters, including “progressive” communist Democrats, are invitine to the HA.ORG “Fatwa Friday” BAR-B-Q [on Friday, Carl! On Friday!]. Lots of political discussion, and a main course provided by Mrs. Teresa Grossman. Spouses, friends, lovers, and Democra “gay partners” are all welcome!! RSVP here, as we need to have an accurate head count for the main course.

  66. 76

    rhp6033 spews:

    Oh, and as for the Civil Air Patrol. No, its not on the same level as the armed military services. It is a volunteer group. You know, the kind which shows the “committment to civics” which the Republicans say Burner doesn’t have.

    The Civil Air Patrol was formed in WWII when civil pilots used their own aircraft to patrol for enemy submarines along both coasts of the U.S. They spotted quite a few, and some pilots were fired upon. I don’t know if any were shot down. Now the CAP serves search and rescue functions. They are the guys and gals who fly around the mountains and forests looking for lost hikers and climbers.

    For someone who stayed with it long enough to be in a leadership position while still a teenager/young adult, I put it at least a rung above my own Boy Scout/Eagle Rank experience. Not exactly Medal of Honor material, but it does show she was respected by her pears for leadership skills, even at a young age.

  67. 77

    Union Fireman spews:

    DaddyLove,

    Show me where the IAFF say’s the term Fireman is wrong. When referring to myself, and being a male, I am a Fireman. As to the Seattle Fire Department, it employs men and women. So, in general terms, when referring to both men and women, Firefighters is absolutley correct. However, when referring to oneself (And why don’t do actually get off your ass and go visit a fire station and ask the members there if they are firemen or firefighters) it is also acceptable to call yourself a fireman. By the way, I have been to numerous IAFF events, have you?

  68. 78

    A concerned Democrat spews:

    What is happening to my party! Gas prices are falling and not one democrat is looking into Republican price fixing. This is an outrage. We need to get to the bottom of why gas prices are falling so close to the election. We can’t afford two more years of republicans in total control. Where is the outrage!!!!!

  69. 79

    JDB spews:

    A concerned Democrat:

    If Bush holds above 45% in a few polls, worry. 40% just means the base figures it has nowhere else to go. Look at how loony the wingnuts are around here. It’s schism time.

    Santorum is flaming out. Allen is spiraling down the drain. Rhode Island, Montana and Missouri look solid. When you look at the numbers across the board, things are still going solidly the Dem’s direction. House races like Reichert’s are in play that should not be in play.

    http://www.slate.com/id/2148703/ (Slate’s score card. Click on the summary for a poll of polls graphed with trend and confidence lines. Great resource this.)

    Not that it will be easy, or that we should stop working. The GOP has stacked the deck in the house against us, and we have already seen the start of the biannual Republican “We have nothing but Fear” campaign.

    Still, it looks like people are seeing through this.

    Going to be close, but if it breaks right, it will be a tidal wave. Why do you think all the wingnuts are going crazy. They feel like

  70. 80

    John Barelli spews:

    (Sorry, Ms. Cantwell. The difference between “Maria” and “Marie” didn’t get caught by spell-check.)

  71. 82

    JDB spews:

    Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif.,[also stated] that another intelligence report, focused only on Iraq, has been prepared. Harman said Tuesday that the second report, which offers a “grim picture” of the country, is being kept in draft form until after the election so that the administration does not have to circulate it. CNN does note Harman’s potentially significant claim and gets an official denial from the administration.

    http://www.slate.com/id/2150475/

    Free the NIE! Free the NIE!

    Why is it that the GOP is so afraid of the facts?

  72. 83

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    All posters, including “progressive” communist Democrats [GBS included], are invitine to the HA.ORG “Fatwa Friday” BAR-B-Q [on Friday, Carl! On Friday!]. Lots of political discussion, and a main course provided by Mrs. Teresa Grossman. Spouses, friends, lovers, and Democrat “gay partners” are all welcome!! RSVP here, as we need to have an accurate head count for the main course.

  73. 84

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    So Clinton sent cruise missiles to kill bin Laden, and issed him by minutes, but Bush pulled the Special Forces out of Tora Bora and sent them to Iraq. Who tried harder to make America safe?
    Again, a no-brainer. Which means even you should get it.
    Commentby Daddy Love— 9/27/06@ 7:18 am

    Daddy Love is a revisionist like most donk! Let’s post the facts again.

    Did you watch the ABC Special on 9/11. Did you see the exchange between the actor playing George Tenet getting pissed at the actor playing Madeline NotBright, when he asks her how far in advance did she tell Pakistan the Cruise missiles were on their way? Oops that fact is irrefutable stupid one! Blame NotBright for opening her mouth too early to Pakistan in advance for getting Bin Laden. George Tenet said their were sympathizers in the Pakistani military for Bin Laden and she shouted him down!

    These facts have been Googled by many of us ubt you don’t check our links because the facts could hurt your librul minds.

    The Afghan commanders on our side call for a 48 hour truce. The US generals bombing the crap out of Al Qaeda say no. Because we’re trying to be nice so the libruls don’t claim we didn’t listen to the people of another country (look that up feckless one), Rumsfeld says stop the bombing. When the Afghan commanders realize their mistake they are pissed. We listened to our allies and did their bidding. Isn’t that what John Effing Kerry says we DON’T do? You donk can’t have it both ways. So now Bin Laden is gone so why leave Carl’s friends the special forces there?

    Dunces, all of you.

  74. 85

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Gee, I meant to follow up on the “foreign fighters” thing by mentioning that Iraqis WANT US THE FUCK OUT OF THEIR COUNTRY. And you know, I don’t blame them for that sentiment.

    Commentby Daddy Love [......And I want 6 million mooooooooolims and 25 million illegals out of the USA!!!!!!]

  75. 86

    JDB spews:

    Daddy Love:

    Please, Bush is never responsible for anything. Nothing will ever change. Stay the Course!

    This message brought to you by Republican National Committee.

  76. 87

    Daddy Love spews:

    Union Fireman

    As for your title, at one time, decades ago, it was the “recognized term for the profession.” Your claim that there is a “recognized MALE term for my profession” is self-serving bullshit. The IAFF claims that it “is committed to ensuring that all persons employed in the fire service have the opportunity to work in an environment that is not offensive, intimidating or hostile because of one’s gender.” To make a gender distinction in job titles would be offensive at least.

    The Seattle Fire Department appears to call its front line employees “firefighters.” Example:

    “Seattle Firefighters will be visiting Seattle Public Libraries and reading stories to preschool age children beginning…:

  77. 89

    Daddy Love spews:

    klake @ 124

    The point is:
    A) We’re NOT “engaging the enemy.” We’re in Iraq, and our enemy is in Pakistan. Would you like a map?
    B) The “enemy” you’re thinking of used to be called “Iraqis” and they want us the fuck out of their country. I wonder why?

    Comment by Daddy Love— 9/27/06@ 9:24 am

    Daddy Love that is not my troops tell me who are returning from that area of the conflict. We are killing more of the terrorist than Iraqis and the terrorist are killing more of the Iraqis than our own troops. That means they find us as hard target and the Iraqis soft. The enemy we are fighting is not located in one country, but could be living next door to you in your city. Daddy you embolden them by the way you place blame on who is losing the war. Now you figure it out.

    No, YOU “figure it out.”

    I don’t know who “your men” are or what you’ve been doing with them, but all offical counts show that so-called “foreign fighters” make up 10% or fewer of those in conflict in Iraq, and recente reports have that figure dropping.

    Christian Science Monitor in 2005:
    “…according to a new report from the Washington-based Center for Strategic International Studies (CSIS)…while the foreign fighters may stoke the insurgency flames, they make up only about 4 to 10 percent of the estimated 30,000 insurgents. ”

    The enemy we are fighting is not located in one country, but could be living next door to you in your city.

    I don’t live my life based on the tiny probability of what “could be.” Freakin’ Osama bin Laden is living in ease in Pakistan, and Musharraf just announced that they won’t make any moves against the place he’s staying. Maybe you thikn they guy should have a nice matress and maybe a comfy p[ilolow, but I’d kinda like it if the president got off his ass and did something about it. But he won’t. and for some fucking reason you don’t care about that. I live next door to a guy named John. Osama bin Laden ordered the daths of thousands of Americans. John recently bought himself and his wife a new Cadillac. Now WHO do you think I should be concerned about? You pants-shitting Republican scaredyncats make me sick. “Be afraid! Be afraid!? I’m not afraid, I’m PISSED.

    Daddy you embolden them by the way you place blame on who is losing the war.
    Fuck you. And fuck you again. Bush invaded and occupied one of the most imporrant Muclim nations on earth FOR NO REASON, and I’M the one making Muslims mad? GOD you’re stupid.

  78. 93

    JDB spews:

    YO:

    Bush has had over five years since 9/11, and yet he has stated that he doesn’t think about bin Laden much. So isn’t the coke-head the bigger loser?

    And, please, since Condi Rice can’t name a single instance, please name something Bush did in the eight months before 9/11. At least we know Clinton tried. Bush was apparently to busy.

    Heck, I’ll make it easy. Name once where Bush actually mentioned bin Laden in the eight months before 9/11.

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    klake spews:

    The point is:
    A) We’re NOT “engaging the enemy.” We’re in Iraq, and our enemy is in Pakistan. Would you like a map?
    B) The “enemy” you’re thinking of used to be called “Iraqis” and they want us the fuck out of their country. I wonder why?

    Comment by Daddy Love— 9/27/06@ 9:24 am

    Daddy Love that is not my troops tell me who are returning from that area of the conflict. We are killing more of the terrorist than Iraqis and the terrorist are killing more of the Iraqis than our own troops. That means they find us as hard target and the Iraqis soft. The enemy we are fighting is not located in one country, but could be living next door to you in your city. Daddy you embolden them by the way you place blame on who is losing the war. Now you figure it out.

  80. 95

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Daddy Dense Love: I said and continue to say we listened to the local militias and they called for a cease fire. These facts support my position you are NOT READING!

    BTW who put the head CIA man in place? Need I say more?

  81. 96

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Once again daddy love and other moonbats are wrong! How will history look at these moonbats?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....s_politics

    http://media.washingtonpost.co.....092606.pdf

    President Bush took the extraordinary step of releasing portions of the classified report, which was completed in April, to counter assertions made after information from the document was leaked to media outlets over the weekend. Reports based on those leaks said the report blames the war in Iraq for worsening the global terrorist threat — an interpretation that the administration calls a distortion of its contents.

    Speaking at a White House news conference with Afghan President Hamid Karzai, Bush angrily called the leak a political act intended to affect the upcoming midterm elections. “Somebody has taken it upon themselves to leak classified information for political purposes,” he said. …

    For the third straight day, Democrats sought to draw attention to the issue with news conferences and political maneuvers. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) moved to put the House into secret session to discuss the intelligence estimate, but the motion was defeated along party lines.

    “With such a devastating and authoritative analysis of the Bush administration’s failures in Iraq, the president and the Republican-controlled Congress now have a choice to make,” said Senate Minority Leader Harry M. Reid (Nev.). “Will they stubbornly follow a failed stay-the-course strategy that America’s intelligence community has concluded makes America less safe, or will they finally admit their mistakes and change course?”

    Daddy Love and Furball: Where in the NIE does it offer any conclusions about successes or failures at present or in the past regarding Iraq? I’ll wait while you search it. I see one conclusion about Iraq take up one paragraph from intelligence community and one bullet point in the four-page document. It points out the consequences of both in the future, which moonbats don’t have an answer for:

    “We assess that the Iraq jihad is shaping a new generation of terrorist leaders and operatives; perceived jihadist success there would inspire more fighters to continue the struggle elsewhere.

    • The Iraq conflict has become the “cause celebre” for jihadists, breeding a deep resentment of US involvement in the Muslim world and cultivating supporters for the global jihadist movement. Should jihadists leaving Iraq perceive themselves, and be perceived, to have failed, we judge fewer fighters will be inspired to carry on the fight. – That isn’t the John Murtha, John Effing Kerry, Nancy Pelosi and Hary Reid position – Nope! Theirs is cut and run. Give a time frame to the enemy!

    Moonbats, the NIE lists the Iraq “jihad” as one of four main factors that fuel the spread of jihadism across the region, but you moonbats miss the other three:

    “Four underlying factors are fueling the spread of the jihadist movement: (1) Entrenched grievances, such as corruption, injustice, and fear of Western domination, leading to anger, humiliation, and a sense of powerlessness; [Ask Mubarak, Ask Assad, Ask Abbas, Ask Saniola, Ask Nasrallah -- emphasis MWS] (2) the Iraq “jihad”; (3) the slow pace of real and sustained economic, social, and political reforms in many Muslim majority nations; [Where are those Palestinian Aid $$$$$ turned into Arafat $Billions? Swiss Bank Accounts -- emphasis MWS] and (4) pervasive anti-US sentiment among most Muslims [since 1979 -- emphasis MWS]- all of which jihadists exploit.”

    So when we win in Iraq, they lose their will and fewer attacks will occur on our soil. Again the moonbats drink the Kerry Kool-Aid and eat the Murtha Muffins along with the Pelosi Pie and the Reid Raspberry Jam and get mixed up on what is important in our lives to keep our children safe in the future.

  82. 97

    Daddy Love spews:

    Gee, I meant to follow up on the “foreign fighters” thing by mentioning that Iraqis WANT US THE FUCK OUT OF THEIR COUNTRY. And you know, I don’t blame them for that sentiment.

  83. 98

    John Barelli spews:

    “This is an insult to those of us who have actually served our country and those of us who have lost brothers in combat. The Civil Air Patrol is NOT PUBLIC SERVICE!!!!!!!!!! It is a club that high school kids join and yes they usually do good things for the community. But if she has to run on actions that she took while a member a high school club, then it just goes to show how truly unqualified she is. Why not run on her vast voting record, oh wiat not good there. Hey, how about running on her vast legal career… Oh, I forgot she quit that too. Maybe she can run on her Public Service record, oh wait nothing there since High School. How about her great qualifications to pass legislation in homeland security.. Damn, forgot nothing there either. Tell me again how she is qualified for anything other than a Project Manager (Notice I didn’t say Executive) at Microsoft.

    Commentby Union Fireman— 9/26/06@ 11:08 pm

    Hmmm. As a career Navy man, somehow I didn’t feel insulted. I’d also say that some of the folks rescued by Civil Air Patrol pilots might disagree about the CAP being public service.

    Nobody is saying that it is the same as military service, but it is hard, and occasionally dangerous work done on behalf of strangers. I spent a good part of my career up at Whidbey Island Naval Air Station, and the pilots there had a great deal of respect for the CAP folks.

    Even if it were the equivalent of being an Eagle Scout, nobody would think it odd for a politician to talk about the dedication to service required to reach that level.

    Just so you know something about the organization that you have so little regards for, here’s just a bit of information (from Wikipedia):

    Search and Rescue

    Civil Air Patrol is arguably best known for its Search and Rescue (SAR) activities. CAP now flies about 95% of inland SAR missions directed by the Air Force Rescue Coordination Center (AFRCC) at Langley Air Force Base, Virginia

    Disaster relief

    CAP is particularly active in disaster relief operations, especially in hurricane-prone areas such as Florida and Louisiana. CAP aircrews and ground personnel provide transportation for cargo and officials. CAP aircrews often provide aerial imagery to emergency managers, in order to help them assess damage.

    Homeland Security

    As a humanitarian service organization, CAP assists federal, state, and local agencies in preparing for and responding to homeland security needs.

    CAP’s Help with Other Agencies

    The Red Cross, Salvation Army, and other civilian agencies frequently ask Civil Air Patrol to transport vital supplies, such as medical technicians, medications, and other vital supplies. They often rely on CAP to provide airlift and communications for their disaster relief operations. CAP also assists the US Coast Guard and Coast Guard Auxiliary.

    No, as a career Sailor, I have no problem with someone considering the Civil Air Patrol to be a positive public service organization.

    I notice your post name “Union Fireman”. Tell me, do you have the same disregard for the volunteer firemen that work along side you that you seem to have for these folks that voluntarily work to help others, sometimes at the risk of their own lives?

  84. 99

    Daddy Love spews:

    The issue is that re-electing Dave Rubber Stamp Reihert will mean just more of the same.

    More of the same fialed economic policies that have resulted in only 3 million net new jobs created in Bush’s terms.

    More of the same failed fiscal policy that has resulted in ruinous defcits skyrocketing our natinal debt, and interest rates increases killing our housing market to try to stave off the coming inflation.

    More of the same failed foreign policy that is allowing eh Taliban to regain power in Afghanistan, Osama to live in peace in Pakistan, North Korea to thumb his nose at us while enriching plutonium for weapons, our young men dying daily for the lost cause of Bush’s war of choice in Iraq that is incresing terrorism and making us less safe.

    More of the same failed medical policy that is incresing the uninisured and forcing our parents adn grandparents to pay prescription costs they can’t affor as they slip into the “doughnut hole” f our debt-finannced Medicare prescription paln.

    More of the same failed secutiry policy that won’t let you take shampoo on a plane but does not check trains, container cargo at our ports, or keep our borders manned.

    It’s really a nobrainer. Dave’s gotta go. See ya.

  85. 100

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Puddy, nice call to action.

    Anonymous – you must be making $7.63 an hour! Keep proving moonbat economics to the rest of us.

  86. 101

    spews:

    Oh I forgot. Bush is trying to double our national debt all with Reichert’s help.

    No audits. No investigations. No attempts to make our entitlement programs more effective, economical. It is steal all you want, and we will look the other way.

    By the way how many polluters were fined last year?

    Gosh I feel safe living down river from a plant that Bush’s EPA stopped monitoring 5 years ago. Oh I know, I know. If they can’t pollute, they can’t make as much money. So what if your pregnant wife has 10 times the mercury as she should. The more retarded your children, the more likely they will vote Republican.

    These days you would need a sub zero IQ to vote for any Republican, and I say this admitting Democrats are not perfect.

    There is a difference between the Boy Scouts, and the NAZIS though.

  87. 102

    John Barelli spews:

    “We need to keep an eye on the religous right. We can not afford the righty Christians coming out in numbers this November. We need to silence them and fast. “

    Commentby A concerned Democrat— 9/26/06@ 9:37 pm

    I see someone is planting stuff for the folks over at unSound Politics to rail against. Obviously “concerned Democrat” is neither, as we’re concerned with making sure that every legal voter gets their chance to cast a ballot, even the folks that we disagree with.

    Strike that. The Republicans are getting pretty concerned about these races. I imagine we’ll be seeing a whole thread over at unSP devoted to rallying the troops against us evil Democrats that don’t really believe in a fair vote.

    When the voting is fair and honest, we win. So, when my elderly, right-wing, Bush-loving neighbor wants a ride to the polls, he’s likely to be riding in a car with a Derek Kilmer sticker on the back window. (Mine.) Maybe the fact that an old lefty like me is the person willing to help him vote might just be the thing that helps him get past all that right-wing propaganda. Even if it isn’t, I still want the old guy to have his say.

    The only real danger is if real Democrats start thinking like Republicans. Some folks have said that we need to fight dirty because the other side does. That somehow the fact that the Republicans are willing to lie, cheat and steal in order to win makes it ok for us to do so as well.

    If we’re no better than them, why should anyone bother choosing between us?

  88. 103

    rhp6033 spews:

    Silly Guy at 22: Darcy’s ads are a lot more on point than McGavick’s lame ads talking about breaking a window when he was a kid. At least she isn’t ashamed of making it clear in her ads she is a Democrat, and what position she is running for.

  89. 104

    db spews:

    I will be a first time voter this November and she’s getting my vote. Sorry Dave (R) but it’s time for the R’s to let the adults take charge.

  90. 105

    Mark The Redneck KENNEDY spews:

    Leadership? How many public agencies has she lead under the constant scrutiny of the public with “assassins” lurking around every corner? How many serial killers has she caught? How many times has she run down a crook, tackled him, cuffed him and said “book ‘em Dano”?

  91. 106

    The Socialist spews:

    I have bad news for you right wingers. Carl Grossman is actually Jesus Christ yes he is back !!! I know you right wingers have been praying for his return for years . I don’t think you are going to be very happy though because it turns out Carl :aka (Jesus) is a LIBERAL and you mooks are all headed to the HELL .

    Carl did confide in me that Bush is indeed EL Diablo : aka ( The Devil) So you no what that makes all you right-wingers don’t you? It makes your DEVIL WORSHIPERS.

    And The Davinci Code is right and Mary Magdalene was Jesus wife and she is back too yes that’s right ..
    Teresa Grossman is really Mary Magdalene . So I would suggest you right wing wackos had better start kissing some serious holly booty and become liberals and there might be some forgiveness for your wicked sinful selves.

  92. 107

    RightEqualsStupid spews:

    After we win Congress and start proceedings to find out just how many laws the illegal Bush regime broke, we’ll probably be able to answer the following questions:

    1) Just exactly what is the nature of the Bush/bin Laden family relationship?
    2) How many shared business interests do the Bush and binLaden family have?
    3) Why did Bush let the bin Ladens and other Saudis go when the rest of American air space was locked down to travel?
    4) Did Bush have any secret deal with the binLadens when he tried to turn over our port security to Arabs?
    5) Why did Bush fail to get Osama in ToraBora?
    6) Why did Bush shut down the Osama unit?
    7) Why didn’t Bush kill bin Laden on September 10, 2001 when he had him in the sights of a missle?
    8) What advance knowledge did the Bush regime have of 9.11?
    9) Isn’t it true that no politician in the US who got more benefit from 9.11 than Bush?

  93. 108

    JDB spews:

    MWS rants:

    Did you watch the ABC Special on 9/11. Did you see the exchange between the actor playing George Tenet getting pissed at the actor playing Madeline NotBright, when he asks her how far in advance did she tell Pakistan the Cruise missiles were on their way? Oops that fact is irrefutable stupid one! Blame NotBright for opening her mouth too early to Pakistan in advance for getting Bin Laden. George Tenet said their were sympathizers in the Pakistani military for Bin Laden and she shouted him down!

    Shame that the above was entirely fictional. Much like saying that George Buch has made us safer.

  94. 109

    A concerned Democrat spews:

    We need to keep an eye on the religous right. We can not afford the righty Christians coming out in numbers this November. We need to silence them and fast.

  95. 110

    GBS spews:

    You fell for the trap. You donk claim Clarke’s book is TRUTH! Now to claim under oath in front of the 9/11 Commission he’s a liar, then his book is filled with lies. His TV appearances are filled with lies. Again donk want it both ways!

    Commentby Mike Webb SUCKS— 9/27/06@ 11:20 am”

    Eeewwwwwwwwwwwwww, as if conservatives tell the truth!!

    Baaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaa

    Gimme a break!

  96. 111

    JDB spews:

    Puddy:

    Don’t let on that you are a good looking black man or you will end up having JCH stalking you. JCH’s only dream is to find a large black man to make him his bitch and provide JCH with the “Tookie love” he so desires.

  97. 112

    John Barelli spews:

    It is interesting to step back a foot or two and look at the forest. The tittering, sputtering, and obnoxious ads coming from both sides reminds me of what happened back in World War I when both sides claimed to have God on their side. Now, each party is claiming moral superiority when exactly the opposite is true.

    In this case I disagree with your point that ‘only’ the Republicans are at fault for what is occurring as both parties are being equally obnoxious.

    Tim

    Commentby sillyguy— 9/26/06@ 10:46 pm

    I really wish that I could disagree with you here. No, it isn’t just Republicans, and I’ve met more than one Democrat that seems to believe that the ends justify the means.

    There were two barbs to that post. I really suspect that it was just a troll trying to give unSP a talking point, but if it was actually a Democrat, then I hope he/she felt thoroughly ashamed of that post. It is not the way we want to win elections.

    There are good, honest Republicans that are appalled at the tactics they see coming out of their party, although the “win at all costs” mentality of the current Republican leadership seems to be marginalizing and alienating them.

    On the whole, I think that we as a party have not yet gotten into that “win at any cost” way of thinking. Perhaps once we’ve been in power for a few years we’ll get to be as bad as the current crop of Republicans. I hope not, but it could happen and we need to be on our guard against it.

  98. 113

    Puddybud Nagin Need Mo Money spews:

    Hello loonie libruls and racist loocy of ASSWipes. I haven’t posted much ‘cuz I’ve been busy and th1s moonbat vomit spewed lately has inspired my brain processes.

    I saw Mike! in the Seatac Airport this morning. Goldy, give him a call so you can verify I first wished him good luck. Later while he was in line to purchase breakfast I tapped him on the shoulder and said: “Don’t let the moonbats get to ya”, He broke up laughing and he said thanks.

    Stefan Sharkansky can contact Mike! and vouch he met a handsome black man this morning at SeaTac who supports his quest to destroy moonbat threory in FUWA!

  99. 114

    Daddy Love spews:

    The problem with wingnuts focusing on the NIE line abut how if the jihadists are perceived to have failed in Iraq, that fewer will be inspired to follow, is that we’re FAILING to make them FAIL. And the “plan” (such as it is) is to do MORE OF THE SAME.

    That’s why people are pissed. If it looked like the “plan” were getting anywhere, we could swing with it. I mean, we still woudln’t like an asshole like Bush, but progress is progress, and this AIN’T it. And everyone who’s not a simpleton (which looks like about 2/3 of the country) realizes this.

  100. 115

    Daddy Love spews:

    Clinton receives a PDB warning about bin Laden and he mobilizes his counter-terrorism group, raises airport security, mobilizes the CIA and FBI to coordinate with the local PD, the airports, and the FAA.

    Bush receives a warning that bin Laden wants to attack in the US. They know that there are Al Qaeda sleeper cells are operating in the U.S. Bush stays on vacation for a month. Now we have disbanded the CIA bin Laden unit and Pakistan has declared they will leave the area he is in alone.

    A vote for Reichert is a vote for more of THAT.

  101. 116

    spews:

    Why do I waste my time letting right wing tools know just how much you have to hate America to vote for a Republican these days. I have a suggestion.

    Instead of voting for a Republican, why don’t you just jump off the Aurora Bridge.

    Do your country a service. Kill yourself instead of your children.

    Freak

    If you are offended, go torture someone….. Your Fuhrer Bush thinks torture is fine, as long as he can define what torture is.

    Boy this is sure playing will in the rest of the world. I already saw the dogpole, and hooded electric box dude pictures coming back.

    If making the world hate America is what a president is supposed to do, Bush is doing a great job.

    Maybe we should be torturing Republican Voters. Nah….. they aree such chicken shits they would be selling us out before we even got started.

  102. 117

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    So, you think Clarke authorized their “escape” all by himself, without authorization for those above him? Like Bush? What are you smoking? When it comes to revising history the “left” needs to revise nothing. Only the sleazebags making all the misgakes. Bush, and his rubber stamp congress……Why do you continue to support known liars, and traitors? Any fool can see through their smoke screen. Commentby Facts Support My Positions— 9/27/06@ 10:01 am

    You fell for the trap. You donk claim Clarke’s book is TRUTH! Now to claim under oath in front of the 9/11 Commission he’s a liar, then his book is filled with lies. His TV appearances are filled with lies. Again donk want it both ways!

  103. 118

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    I rather enjoy the machine gun posting style taught to me by JCH himself.

    Commentby My Left Foot [……………………………………………………………………."Grasshopper” Carl, You are NOT ready to leave the temple.]

  104. 119

    John Barelli spews:

    Just a quick note. Here is what Mike! has to say about sending people back to DC that have done nothing but rubber-stamp the Republican agenda:

    “The partisan nonsense that is ruining our nation must stop, and we can help stop it this November.

    This name-calling and bitterness, to look to your party first to know how to vote, what a wrong-minded concept.

    You work with others to solve problems, with open hearts and open minds. That’s the Northwest way of doing things.”

    (Quoted from his tv spot entitled “Problem Soving”.)

    Attaboy, Mike! I guess you’ll be voting for Ms. Burner in November. I’m just glad that my Congressman, Norm Dicks, and my Senator, Marie Cantwell haven’t been part of that “partisan nonsense”.

    After all, they really couldn’t, with the Republicans holding to that partisan “majority of the majority” nonsense, and preventing things like the income tax deduction from getting to the floor without being loaded down with a bunch of “give more to the rich” and “take more from the poor” amendments.

    Still, it is nice to know that Mike! agrees that the partisan nonsense has gone on far too long. I may not agree with him about many things, but on this topic, I agree with him wholeheartedly.

  105. 121

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    JCH is a perfect example of what is wrong with the GOP. All hate and anger. Never any happiness.

    Commentby JDB [.........................................I'll be happy when commie libs like you are deported with the Moooooslims and illegals!]

  106. 122

    AmericaWas1stB4Chimpy spews:

    righton @ 66, I heard that Goldy has her Wash State 100 mtr Indoor Championship trophy…oops, wrong candidate

  107. 123

    Union Fireman spews:

    This is an insult to those of us who have actually served our country and those of us who have lost brothers in combat. The Civil Air Patrol is NOT PUBLIC SERVICE!!!!!!!!!! It is a club that high school kids join and yes they usually do good things for the community. But if she has to run on actions that she took while a member a high school club, then it just goes to show how truly unqualified she is. Why not run on her vast voting record, oh wiat not good there. Hey, how about running on her vast legal career… Oh, I forgot she quit that too. Maybe she can run on her Public Service record, oh wait nothing there since High School. How about her great qualifications to pass legislation in homeland security.. Damn, forgot nothing there either. Tell me again how she is qualified for anything other than a Project Manager (Notice I didn’t say Executive) at Microsoft.

  108. 124

    Daddy Love spews:

    Not that Bush is doing anything about the supposed Muslim terrorist “living next door to you in your city” besides eavesdropping on millions of innocent Americans, certainly journalists and other perceived “enemies” of BUSH, without a warant and sending other innocents to secret prisons of foreign coutries to be tortured. You know, somehow I’m not convinced that if there IS some Muslim in Seattle who is plotting something that Bush is doing shit about it.

  109. 125

    A concerned Democrat spews:

    We need to end this republican surge and quick. I know the poll numbers have not been going up for the newcon in recent weeks but they are still above 40%. A couple more good weeks and we are in serious trouble. We are taking back our country!!!!!

  110. 127

    Daddy Love spews:

    Kevin Drum on the “Democrats have no plan” meme:

    “Various luminaries in the liberal foreign policy community have been proposing Iraq policies right and left for over three years now. First, that perhaps we should have kept our focus on Afghanistan and stayed out of Iraq altogether. Then, once we were there, liberal thinkers suggested more troops, dialogue with Iran, a multilateral council to accelerate regional investment in Iraq’s progress, a variety of counterinsurgency strategies, a variety of partition plans, more serious engagement in Israeli-Palestinian talks (Tony Blair practically begged for this), and on and on. Every single one of these suggestions was ignored.

    “Would they have made any difference? Who knows. But to blame Democrats now for not being aggressive enough in trying to trisect this angle is like blaming Gerald Ford for losing Vietnam. George Bush fought this war precisely the way he wanted, with precisely the troops he wanted, and with every single penny he asked for. He has kept Don Rumsfeld in charge despite abundant evidence that he doesn’t know how to win a war like this. He has mocked liberals and the media at every turn when they suggested we might need a different approach. The result has been a disaster with no evident solution left.”

    It’s gonna be hell trying to make sense of this oce Demcroats take contropl of a House of Congress. And you know wthat Republicans will try to blame us for teh failures of this administration. But changing course is the ONLY course when you see how badly “staying the course” has failed. And we KNOW that today’s GOP won’t change course. So we’ll elect Democrats to office, and they’ll at least HOLD THIS ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE in a way it hasn’t been for years. And they’ll advance radical ideas like that health care matters enough to make sure people have it, and that security comes as much from having strong allies as from strong armies, and that we can only make a difference in this world if we are a leader who lives up to its own ideals and not one who emulates its worst enemies.

    Hey, I’m blogging.

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    sillyguy spews:

    Goldy – your comments show you are shooting blanks about the content of Darcy’s Ads. Darcy’s dependencies on her family’s military service show absolutely nothing about who Darcy really is and what she is capable of doing. She is wasting the the hard earned contributions to prove nothing. The Ads are totally absurd and only show that she does not have the backgrond to be in Congress.

    A concerned Vietnam Vet!

  112. 130

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    “I have been awarded numerous National medals. One most notable is my National Defense Medal.”

    “Then you know that they’re not easy to get”……..???????????????????????????????? “National Defense Medal………..Not easy to get”???????????? Even E-3 GBS and E-7 John wear these………………

  113. 131

    Mike Webb SUCKS spews:

    Again the donk are revisionists. Google the Richard Clarke testimony and he says “I authorized them [Bin Laden Family] to leave”!

    Dunces all of you!

  114. 132

    Puddybud Nagin Need Mo Money spews:

    Oh yes, I need to meet Miss Teresa. She can meet a real conservative black man! Don’t worry Teresa, I’ll bring Mrs. Puddybud! When You and Carl see her beauty, you’ll know that I’m packin!!!!! And it ain’t just in the crotch! Conservative women marry men for their brains! All else is gravy! Well some meat too!

    But it won’t be anytime soon. Puddy has fall monetary acquisition events to tend too! This economy s great moonbats!

    Didn’t someone ask about peeps who make over 90K and social security taxes? Oops… sorry, JSA from Strawberry Dreams Forever told me to stop bragging and not call him a moonbat!

  115. 133

    klake spews:

    1. A Republican’s idea of supporting the troops is to send them off to die in a war based on lies with improper gear, body armor, and medical attention when they get home.
    Maggots.
    Commentby Facts Support My Positions— 9/26/06@ 10:22 pm
    Funny boy you need to find new reading material, not that crap you get from Mike (fat-man) Moore. They did not tell me any lies when I went into the Middle East when LBJ was running the country nor any other administration since. You never get the latest gear in any war and we receive the best medical attention since the Civil War. That might explain the low lost of lives on the battle field today. The other factors could be there aren’t any Liberals in the fox hole next to you; they are at home hiding behind or under mommies dress. Meat heads like yourself are making a political event about this war and not supporting the folks in winning. You all side with the enemies of this nation, always critical those who are defending this country, or methods of engaging the enemy. Maybe you could get a uniform on and show us fools how it’s done, but cowards never make a post using their real name either. To make it short; facts you lack and you totally disregard history when you make statements is your glaring problem. Lighten up on the Presidents past and present until those who are at our gates are defeated.

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    YO spews:

    hey skagit did you serve in the patrol with darcy.your and idiot.calling people cowards.military service in the patrol.do you get a pension.

  117. 135

    Union Fireman spews:

    Mr. Barelli,

    So maybe recieveing an award with the word National in it isn’t that impressive afterall?

    Thanks for proving my point

  118. 136

    JDB spews:

    JCH is a perfect example of what is wrong with the GOP. All hate and anger. Never any happiness. Sad, really.

  119. 137

    Daddy Love spews:

    “No plan, no plan, no plan”

    MWS and others repeat this enlessly. Now Condoleeza Rice is feeding red meat to the faithful by running to the conservative-friendly (read: will print GOP talking points as fact) to claim that “We were not left a comprehensive strategy to fight al Qaeda…Big pieces were missing, like an approach to Pakistan that might work, because without Pakistan you weren’t going to get Afghanistan.”

    Well, duh. The only problem with her story? It’s a big, fat, LIE.

    You see, five days afetr Bush took office, during the transition while Richard Clarke was still Counter-Terrorism Advisor, he
    presented a memo to Rice that included the 2000 document, “Strategy for Eliminating the Threat from the Jihadist Networks of al-Qida: Status and Prospects.” This document (PDF at link)devotes over 2 of its 13 pages of material to specifically addressing strategies for securing Pakistan’s cooperation in airstrikes against al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan.

    Bush followed up by spending over 40% of those eight months before 9/11 on vacation.

    No plan? What do you think we are, stupid? Here’s the TRUTH: Bush is endangering America and the Democrats are trying to change that.

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    spews:

    We all have Bill Clinton to thank. Now the Republicans are on the defensive. They have to defend the fact they did absolutely nothing in the 8 months leading up to 9-11. They ignored over 100 known warnings we were about to be attacked, and did absolutely nothing. And now everyone is starting to understand they are not the party of security, they are only the party of fear.

    Thank you Mr. Clinton. I could imagine how hard it was for you to try to take on Al Queda with the Republicans attacking you every time you did anything to try to make us safer. I call it a full court press.

    They claim you were distracted by the Monica mess, but who is to blame for that? Whitewater? The Arkansas project, some billionare paying people to lie about you.

    I have to hand it to you Bill, you did a great job with the Republicans trying to hurt us at every turn.

    God Bless Bill Clinton

    By the way it was great watching you on Fox. It brings me back to a time when we had a president that could complete a sentence without drooling on himself and stuttering.

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    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    All posters, including “progressive” communist Democrats, are invited to the HA.ORG “Fatwa Friday” BAR-B-Q [on Friday, Carl! On Friday!]. Lots of political discussion, and a main course provided by Mrs. Teresa Grossman [roasted [Bar-B-Qed] llama]. Spouses, friends, lovers, Democrat “gay partners”, and Democrat’s favorite barnyard animal lovers are all welcome!! RSVP here, as we need to have an accurate head count for the main course.

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    spews:

    ” het fuckhead@28 your great bill clinton had 10 chances to kill usma and he fucked it up.so what did he do about the cole the trade center,etc nothing.he is the biggest loser.and a fuckin pot smoking draft dogger.

    Commentby YO— 9/26/06@ 10:45 pm

    Yo dude. You must mean Bush. I think you got Clinton, the person who tried to kill Bin Laden, and Bush the person who ignored Bin Laden mixed up.

    If you think having Republicans in power makes us safer you better read the NIE just leaked. We are relying on leaked information to understand just how bad of job Bush, and his lap dog Republican congress are doing.

    If making billions of people hate america is going to make us safer then Bush is doing a great job! Soon the whole world will hate America at this rate.

    I sure don’t hear Reichert sounding concerned…. He is so busy towing the party line he would pull our ship over Niagra Falls if Bush told him to. By the way, how did he vote on the Bankruptcy (helping bands screwing us) bill? Energy (helps Exxon screws me) bill? Tort (helps huge corporations only) bill? Tax cuts that mostly help the super rich so we can all pay more in other fees and taxes to offset it. I am sure since he represents people and not mega corporations he voted against all these bills right?

    Reichert can not hide from his voting record. Voting for the super rich, and large corporations against ME AT EVERY TURN!!!

    Republicans belong in prison, and their supporters belong in the nuthouse.

    Freak

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    Daddy Love spews:

    RR @ 72

    War on science.

    Wat on truth.

    War on the wrong enemy.

    Creating more terrorists instead of reducing terrorism.

    We can’t trust these guys with ANYTHING, let alone keeping America safe.

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    righton spews:

    Why the “executive” officer mention? More resume inflation for the dupes at HA?
    How do we know any of this is true?
    Yeah, I recall CAP, same kids in the A/V club, decent deal, but not exactly “congressional” training..
    Goldy, got any of her 5th grade awards? maybe perfect attendence…

    Yipes, really stretching on this one

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    YO spews:

    het fuckhead@28 your great bill clinton had 10 chances to kill usma and he fucked it up.so what did he do about the cole the trade center,etc nothing.he is the biggest loser.and a fuckin pot smoking draft dogger.