Congrats Fred

As some of you know, I’m planning to caucus with the Republicans for Fred Karger, by far the least objectionable. Pro choice, pro marriage equality, he’s actually not horrible on a lot of things. But he’s a solid Republican, and so in a general, I’d still prefer Obama to him.

But I don’t really expect him to win. Thus caucusing for Karger is more to send a message to the GOP that no, it doesn’t have to be that way. You can change. That while we can have reasonable disagreements about economic policy, they don’t need to demonize women and gay people.

Anyway, it’s somewhat impressive that Fred got well over 1000 votes in Michigan.

Comments

  1. 2

    proud leftist spews:

    Okay, slightly off topic, but Bob Kerrey running for Senator in Nebraska. He’s kind of a Fred Karger kind of guy. Aisle crossing kind of guy. Glad to see him reentering American politics.

  2. 5

    Charly Tuna spews:

    I am a Democrat, does that mean I cannot participate in the Republican Caucus this year?

    Not unless you refuse to even consider becpming a Republican for one day. . According to the Republican website, ANY registered voter is “more than welcome to participate in the Republican caucus.”Again, you need to be a registered voter and be willing to sign a form that states that you “consider yourself to be a republican” and will not participate in any other parties caucus this year.

    In the past, I’ve voted for Democrats, does that mean I cannot participate in the Republican Caucus this year?

    Again no No according to the Republican website.
    Who should I vote for? That is entirely YOUR decision. In my own case I intend to vote with complete sincerity for Rick Santorum because I think he is the only Republican candidate who is willing to present an honest point of view. I believe that a Santorum vs. Obama race will yield the best discussion of the issues facing our nation. There are even some issues on which I agree with Santorum. Drop me a comment. at The AVE.

    Where do I vote:

    Go to this website to find out. http://wsrpcaucus.tumblr.com/faq

    Do I need to register or notify my county party prior to participating?

    No. As long as you are registered to vote you just need to show up where your precinct is caucusing.

    When are the caucuses?
    The precinct caucuses are on March 3, they begin at 10 AM and will end around noon. They recommend arriving 30 minutes early to check in. Go to this website to find out where to caucus.
    http://wsrpcaucus.tumblr.com/faq

  3. 6

    SeattleJew spews:

    I think Mitt Romney is hacking HA< This is mu third attempt to post this message!

    I am a Democrat, does that mean I cannot participate in the Republican Caucus this year?

    Not unless you refuse to even consider becoming a Republican for one day to encourage a good election.

    According to the Republican website, ANY registered voter is “more than welcome to participate in the Republican caucus.”Again, you need to be a registered voter and be willing to sign a form that states that you “consider yourself to be a republican” and will not participate in any other parties caucus this year.

    Who should I vote for?

    That is entirely YOUR decision. In my own case I intend to vote with complete sincerity for Rick Santorum because I think he is the only Republican candidate who is willing to present an honest point of view. I believe that a Santorum vs. Obama race will yield the best discussion of the issues facing our nation. There are even some issues on which I agree with Santorum. Drop me a comment on The AVE if you want o find what these areas are.

    Where do I vote:

    Go to this website to find out.
    http://wsrpcaucus.tumblr.com/faq

    Is my vote going to be made public?

    No.There are two parts to the caucus. When you sign in, you will be asked to state your presidential preference – this will be considered your vote for the presidential straw poll. This vote will not be made available to the general public. Your presence at the caucus, however, might become public knowledsge.

    Then at the caucus you will undertake the important business of electing delegates. This is your vote that actually counts. The Straw poll is just a snapshot of who caucus attendees support, but the ultimate determiner of which candidates wins Washington’s delegates will be the delegates elected at the precincts caucuses.


    When are the caucuses?

    The precinct caucuses are on March 3, they begin at 10 AM and will end around noon. The WA GOP recommends arriving 30 minutes early to check in.

    Go to this website to find out where to caucus.

  4. 8

    yd spews:

    Well as Bernanke stated today (in not exact words) the American Spring will arrive in the fall of 2012.

    The Bush tax cuts and the payrol tax expire

    The federal Government mus cut 1.2 Trillion from their budget

    Owebamma will have blasted through the 16.4 Trillion dollar debt ceiling yet again

    All of these items will most likely occur January of 2013, and be decided by a Lame Duck government.

    Bernanke warned this will produce a catastrophe. A Perfect storm of sorts.

  5. 9

    yd spews:

    And despite what most of you believe on this site, the Constitution specifically outlines the requirements for holding the office of President. It does so specifically to make sure that that American values are being respected. America is not a European socialist society, it was started to get the hell away from that. Having said that, Sherrif Joe will have a news conference tommorrow at 1PM. Let the truth be known!

  6. 10

    Liberal Scientist thinks that concentrated power and wealth should be met with suspicion, not adoration spews:

    It does so specifically to make sure that that American values are being respected.

    Sounds like the Holy Founders put that ‘native born’ clause in there to keep some Kenyan Socialist from traipsing around the world apologizing for the US of A.

    We must take our country back!

    /snark

  7. 11

    Liberal Scientist thinks that concentrated power and wealth should be met with suspicion, not adoration spews:

    Sherrif Joe will have a news conference tommorrow at 1PM

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAHAHAHAH !!!!!!!

  8. 12

    Liberal Scientist thinks that concentrated power and wealth should be met with suspicion, not adoration spews:

    I find it very curious that my precinct’s Republican caucus (QA) is in Belltown (not too weird, but a little) at the Labor Temple (VERY WEIRD).

    I imagine all sort of uncomfortable interactions between the proprietors and their tenants.

    I considered caucusing, but I’m a registered Dem, and a Dem precinct officer, and so the signed form saying I considered myself a Republican was a bridge too far.

    Moreover, there were a few absolute rules in my house as a child…one of which is “Never vote Republican”. (The other being “Never EVER cross a picket line.”) I’ve never broken either one, and don’t intend to start now.

  9. 14

    Deathfrogg spews:

    And despite what most of you believe on this site, the Constitution specifically outlines the requirements for holding the office of President.

    Uh, what exactly does it say there? Exact citation please. No paraphrasing.

    It does so specifically to make sure that that American values are being respected.


    What values? Where exactly are they enumerated in the Constitution?

    America is not a European socialist society, it was started to get the hell away from that. Having said that, Sherrif Joe will have a news conference tommorrow at 1PM. Let the truth be known!

    That is the biggest, most amazingly odoriferous ball of total bullshit I have ever read in my life. This is a primary example of why you Tealiban will never be taken seriously by intelligent and educated people.

    I challenge you sir, to name ONE single country in Europe, that had a “socialist” government or economy at any time during the 18th or 19th century.

    You really do put too much effort into looking like a complete fucking imbecile. But then, I have yet to meet a single TeaBagger who has any demonstrable knowledge of history or basic economics whatsoever. You people have got to be the most ignorant fuckheads on the planet.

    May the Noodles have mercy on your soul.

  10. 15

    Deathfrogg spews:

    @ 13

    If that is true, then they better pound an oaken stake through his heart, stuff his throat with wolfbane and garlic, and cut his head off and burn it.

    That much vitriol and atavism in one’s heart, no wonder it vaporlocked on him. Pathological liars put an incredible amount of stress on themselves trying to keep up with all the lies they tell so they don’t trip themselves up.

  11. 16

    bob spews:

    Calm, redefined:

    Two more American troops killed by Afghan soldier…

    Obama: Apology ‘Calmed Things Down’…

  12. 18

    spews:

    @9, @14:

    The Constitution of the United States, Article II, Section 1 (in part):

    No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

    That is the entirety of the stated Constitutional qualifications that must be met by anyone who serves as President. The phrase “a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution” is the Founders’ way of grandfathering in those who were born prior to the creation of the nation. As I interpret the clause, someone born before July 1776 in a location that would not later become US territory — for example, Alexander Hamilton or the Marquis de Lafayettewould have met the Presidential qualifications.

    IIRC, the first President actually born in the United States was Martin Van Buren, DOB December 5, 1782 in Kinderhook NY.

    If born here, lived here for 14 years (not necessarily the last 14, not necessarily consecutively), and at least 35 years old comprises what is “specifically to make sure that that [sic] American values are being respected”, then @9 must have an exceedingly low opinion of what American values consist of. How do age, residence, and nativity represent “values”? What makes those values, if that’s what they are, specifically American? Is that all it takes to demonstrate American values for @9?

    What a pitifully low hurdle @9 sets for the essential, existential basis of our national character.

  13. 20

    Max spews:

    Apparently progressives(or at least the ones caucusing for republicans during the primaries) believe its A-OK to undermine democracy – because really, sabotaging the opposing party’s ability to put its own candidate forward into the general election is just another method of election fraud.

    I dont belong to any party, but I think its sad that our political process has stooped to this level.

    Oh well, just remember, what goes around comes around – so dont bitch too much when the conservatives do the same thing to the democrats in the future.

  14. 21

    Max spews:

    17. bob spews:
    Hey, no problem. YLB tells us that people have ‘adjusted’ to high gas prices, and the resultant direct and indirect effects on the economy.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-50.....you-think/

    03/01/2012 AT 7:52 AM

    How the fuck would that loser YLB know? his beat to shit taurus wont even start, so he cant drive anyway.

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    rhp6033 spews:

    # 20: You mean like Romney did in 1992? Back in the day he bragged about having voted in a Democratic primary in the hopes of getting a weak Democratic candidate.

    And don’t forget that some Republicans were pushing their own to vote in open Democratic primaries and caucuses in the hopes of getting a weak candidate to run against Bush. Some of them even voted for Obama, on the assumption that being nobody would vote for a black guy for President!

    Personally, I’m against this strategy. There’s something about having to attend a Republican caucus, and sign a pledge about being a Republican, which would make me feel like I needed a shower afterwards. The Republicans seem to be doing a sufficient job of blowing up their own party, without any assistance on our part.

  16. 23

    rhp6033 spews:

    Anybody else remember back in 2008, when we had the Republican primary, which didn’t mean anything, followed by a Republican caucus? I reported on a couple trying to fill out their ballots at a local restaurant, in the booth behind me.

    Their comments were hilarious. They kept finding something wrong which each and every candidate, and having to go back up to the top and start all over again, hoping that they had overlooked somebody.

    It occured to me that their choices last time were better than they are now. Some of the same objectionable names are still there.

    A neighbor of mine, a Republican, has been specifically avoiding election news because they didn’t want to have to hear all the back-and-forth and constant debates and analysis. So they asked me for a quick re-cap of the Republican candidates so they could make a decision prior to the caucus. I gave them the quick run-down. My neighbor eyed me suspiciously. “Are you sure you aren’t leaving some out”? “No”, I assured her, “those are all who are left”. She seemed pretty discouraged as she walked away.

  17. 24

    Michael spews:

    I’m pretty sure if I showed up at my local Republican caucus, I’d get laughed out of the room. Welcome to smallish town life.

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    spews:

    YLB tells us that people have ‘adjusted’ to high gas prices,

    Poor bob thinks Americans are stupid.

    But not all Americans are like Bob and Max the racist.

    Note to the racist idiot: my vehicle (not a Taurus) runs just fine. Bought it brand new in 2003 and it has just 43K miles on it. Will run just fine as long as we care to keep it.

    Don’t drink and drive racist!