Centrism is for suckers

It is times like this when I really curse the New York Times for putting it’s columnists behind a paid subscription firewall.

Paul Krugman’s latest column — “Centrism Is for Suckers” — is an absolute must read for those “moderates” in both parties who take issue with the aggressive, take no prisoners partisanship of HA and much of the liberal blogosphere. It is also an important lesson for those independent minded voters who believe they can still afford to pick and choose candidates regardless of party affiliation, at a time when our Republican controlled Congress steadfastly refuses to exercise its constitutional obligation to act as a check and balance on one of the most authoritarian and ruthless administrations in American history.

If you want to understand the state of America today, a good place to start is with the contrast between the political strategies of conservative business advocacy groups like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and those of more or less liberal advocacy groups like the Sierra Club.

The chamber recently got into trouble because of ads it ran praising Republican members of Congress who, it said, voted for the Medicare prescription drug program. It turned out that one of the congressmen praised in the ads actually voted against the program, while two others weren’t even in Congress when the vote took place.

Oops. But the bigger question is, aren’t business groups supposed to favor fiscal responsibility and reducing the size of government? So why is the chamber praising a program that substantially increases the size of government and has no visible means of financial support?

The answer is obvious: the Bush administration hopes to win some votes in the midterm elections from older Americans now receiving drug benefits, and the chamber, like many conservative organizations these days, believes that its interests are best served by helping Republicans win elections.


Now compare this with the behavior of advocacy groups like the Sierra Club, the environmental organization, and Naral, the abortion-rights group, both of which have endorsed Senator Lincoln Chafee, Republican of Rhode Island, for re-election. The Sierra Club’s executive director defended the Chafee endorsement by saying, “We choose people, not parties.” And it’s true that Mr. Chafee has usually voted with environmental groups.

But while this principle might once have made sense, it’s just naive today. Given both the radicalism of the majority party’s leadership and the ruthlessness with which it exercises its control of the Senate, Mr. Chafee’s personal environmentalism is nearly irrelevant when it comes to actual policy outcomes; the only thing that really matters for the issues the Sierra Club cares about is the “R” after his name.

Put it this way: If the Democrats gain only five rather than six Senate seats this November, Senator James Inhofe, who says that global warming is “the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people,” will remain in his current position as chairman of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee. And if that happens, the Sierra Club may well bear some of the responsibility.

Perhaps I’ve already blockquoted more than the Fair Use Doctrine allows, but it would be a worse transgression not to include Krugman’s final paragraph:

The fact is that in 1994, the year when radical Republicans took control both of Congress and of their own party, things fell apart, and the center did not hold. Now we’re living in an age of one-letter politics, in which a politician’s partisan affiliation is almost always far more important than his or her personal beliefs. And those who refuse to recognize this reality end up being useful idiots for those, like President Bush, who have been consistently ruthless in their partisanship.

I for one do not wish to be a “useful idiot” and that explains why I work so hard to elect Democrats — not because I have any particular allegiance to the Democratic Party, but because I understand it is the only way to enact progressive policies while fending off political attacks from the right. This is the political world we live in, and those who ignore the letter next to a candidate’s name on the ballot are ignoring political reality.

I’m not saying this is a good thing — it’s just the way things are.


  1. 1

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    It’s easy to spot a Republican in a restaurant. He’s the guy going around all the tables and picking up the tip money.

  2. 3

    PBJ spews:

    “I for one do not wish to be a “useful idiot”

    Don’t worry Goldstein, you defnitely are not a [b]useful[/i] idiot!

  3. 4

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Estate Tax [Death Tax]: The “guvment” needs to take all assets values over twenty dollars. [Karl Marx, Hillary Clinton]

  4. 5

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Goldy, You didn’t serve when the USA was attacked, and you don’t serve now when Isreal is under attack. Exactly when does a pussy like you serve? And for whom? hehe, JCH

  5. 7

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    So you want us to believe that electing CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVES like RubberStampReichert and Mike? The Problem is the answer to credit card usury and low wages?

  6. 8

    PBJ spews:

    ““I for one do not wish to be a “useful idiot”

    Don’t worry Goldstein, you defnitely are not a useful idiot!

  7. 9

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Roger, Do you post under the name, “The Socialist”? He sure sounds like you!

  8. 10

    Dan Rather-Whats the frequency-Kennedy spews:

    Here is the a daily reminder to all the Jew killing lefties:


    Was the Jew killer a conservative or liberal. In the Seattle Times we have the following quote:

    Haq’s friend said he couldn’t believe the timid, “geeky” man he knew from the tutoring center was capable of such violence.

    “Are you sure we’re talking about the same person?” he said Sunday………….

    He said Haq was not a devout Muslim and often complained that the Tri-Cities were too politically conservative.

    “I’m beginning to think I was his only friend in the Tri-Cities. I don’t recall him hanging out with anybody else.”

    Now for the other side we turn to Goldy’s story from last week:


    Ah it looks like the story was all a bunch of hot air. Well there you have it. Enjoy all you Nazi Libs.

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    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:


    He waits until you leave, then saunters to your table, picks up the tip you left for the waitress, and pays his bill with it.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit […………………………………………………………………………RR, Remember when Hillary “stiffed” the young single mother waitress in NY? Classic Hillary!!!!]

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    howcanyoubePROUDtobeaKennedyandanASS spews:

    Wishy washy, mushy in the middle, gray lame brains… the same nitwits that can’t decide what lane to drive in or if they want soup or salad.

    MAKE UP YOUR DAMNED MIND little spinelss jellyfish.
    Stand for something… yes/no, right/wrong, 1/0…

    And its part and parcel of the pathetic union thug indoctrination called public school. When they teach no one is ever wrong, when they examine feeling instead of facts they DON’T TEACH HOW TO THINK.

    So, congratulation liberals: you got exactly what you asked for: an electorate that has less thinking/choosing capability than a three-legged footstool.

  11. 14

    Fred spews:


    RubberStampReichert DID vote for the minimum wage bill in the House, and therefore voted to override Washington’s minimum wage laws for all tipped employees — which would lower their pay from

    $7.63/hour plus tips to
    $2.13/hour plus tips.

    Dave Reichert voted to LOWER the minimum wage for his constituents. In a state that passed an initiative to raise the minimum wage with the support of about 2/3 of all voters. (It’s almost like he doesn’t WANT to be re-elected!)


    That deduction isn’t worth anything like $5.50/hour for waitresses, waiters, and other tipped employees.

    But continue smoking whatever you’re smoking by all means — I’m sure extreme stupidity counts as a disease that should be treated by whatever medicinal substances your dealer can sell you.

  12. 16

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    Hey Fred — are you new on this board? Let me give you the 60-second briefing:

    1. This is a liberal blog.
    2. Anybody can post here.
    3. There is no censorship.
    4. As liberals, our job is to verbally kick the living shit out of the unpatriotic America-hating fascist trolls who post here.
    5. No mercy for wingnuts.
    6. Our terms are unconditional surrender.

  13. 17

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “I hope Mike! wouldn’t vote like Murray and Cantwell, they screwed us all 6 million plus of us out of a big federal income tax deduction to save a few bucks for those hundred thousand waitresses.”

    This is the best wingo brain fart you can come up with today, Mac? No, the Republicans screwed you out of the tax deduction by trying to fuck over the waitresses. Instead of ass-kissing people like Mike? The Problem and RubberStampReichert, you should be kicking their asses out of Congress.

  14. 19

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    ORLANDO, Fla. – Walt Disney World is hiking ticket prices for the second time in 2006, raising the cost of a basic one-day, one-park admission to $67, according to a pricing chart posted on the company’s media Web site.

    The $4 price increase takes effect Sunday. [………………………………………….Goldy, RR, How much did Micheal Eisnerstein suck out of Disney during his tenure as CEO? Your comments here would be amusing.]

  15. 20

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    RR, Hillary spends $1500 every two weeks for a “hair style”. Your comments on this would be amusing.

  16. 23

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    Here’s my entry:

    Mike? McGavick
    He’s the Problem, Not the Solution

  17. 24

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “What’s not to like about Mike!?” Commentby sgmmac— 8/5/06@ 4:25 pm

    His waffling
    His double talk
    His greed
    His dishonesty
    His support for war and torture
    His opposition to minimum wage

    Why doesn’t Mike? The Problem want voters to know he’s a Republican? Just wondering.

  18. 25

    Dr. E spews:

    “And its part and parcel of the pathetic union thug indoctrination called public school. When they teach no one is ever wrong, when they examine feeling instead of facts they DON’T TEACH HOW TO THINK.”

    Only a massively ignorant fool would write something like this.

  19. 26

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Hitler burned books. Goldy deletes posts. [I guess that is easier than fighting with the IDF.]

  20. 29

    Dr. E spews:

    In right-wing lala-land, the words “peer review” mean “do not trust”. But, when you inhabit a world where ideology trumps all, one cannot allow uncomfortable scholarship to come into conflict with one’s facile “reality”.

  21. 30

    Dr. E spews:

    Really? Which conspiracy theory are we talking about, Mac? I’d be happy to read them and watch the shows (unlike the winger ideologues here), but will have to give the most credence to those that have been peer-reviewed.

  22. 31

    sgmmac spews:

    Dr E,

    You are in luck, there are several shows and a book coming out debunking the conspiracy theory on the Twin towers. But will you believe the evidence or the whispers?

  23. 33

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    What are you bitching about now, Craig? Your posts are still here. You’re still here. Too damn bad.

  24. 34

    For the Clueless spews:

    Dear Wingnuts:

    You must take action. You have always known the State Department is full of Marxists and Francophiles. Start writing the White House and the Congress NOW to halt the surrender!

  25. 36

    Harry Tuttle spews:

    Ain’t nothing in the middle-of-the-road ‘cept yellow lines and dead armadillos.
    — Jim Hightower

  26. 38

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    1. Claim: Hillary Clinton helped free two Black Panthers accused of torturing and murdering Alex Rackley.

    Status: False.


    2. Claim: New York Senator Hillary Clinton refused to meet with a contingent of Gold Star mothers.

    Status: False.


    3. Claim: The Clintons are charging rent to the Secret Service agents assigned to protect them.

    Status: False.


    See the pattern here? Whenever a wingnut tells a story about Hillary Clinton, it’s a fucking lie. Hell, I’d vote for her just because the righties hate her.

  27. 40

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    Okay. I’ll curl up in my burrow and dream happy thoughts of you jumping off a bridge.

  28. 42

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    He waits until you leave, then saunters to your table, picks up the tip you left for the waitress, and pays his bill with it.

  29. 43

    Dan Rather-Whats the frequency-Kennedy spews:

    Democrat = The real Nazis. My Uncle Joe would be so proud. Hehe

  30. 45

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    McGREGOR — A group of Central Texans calling themselves “Condistas” hope their new billboard here convinces Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to run for president in 2008.Jessie Jane Duff, the national chairwoman of Americans for Dr. Rice, told about 30 people gathered along U.S. Highway 84 Saturday that the McGregor billboard is the first of many the group plans to erect across the country. […………………………………………………..Condi/J.C. Watts 2008!! If you don’t support these candidates you are sexist and racist. [I love dealing with commie lib Dems the same way they deal with others.]

  31. 46

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    IAF: “Red Flag” trained F-16 and F-15 pilots kicking ass. Goldy? Goldy? Bueller? Frye?

  32. 48

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    IDF and IAF MEN, this way please!!! Children, and Goldy, over here, behind the desk, please…………….

  33. 49

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    D.C. police are investigating the robbery of a disabled Iraq war veteran and his wife who were mugged by Democrats in Northwest Washington two weeks ago after an evening off base that ended with after-dinner drinks at a restaurant on Wisconsin Avenue.

    Mark Beyers, 27, a Marine who lost an arm and a leg in a roadside explosion last year, told authorities that he and his wife, Denise, were walking in the 4300 block of Jenifer Street when five young Democrat men approached and knocked Denise to the ground, according to a police report.

    The thieves emptied her purse, stole $300 and left, according to the report. It was money her mother had wired to her, the Beyers family said. The Democrats said they needed the money for Al Gore to “save the world from global warming” and to buy beer, dope, and Marlboros.

  34. 50

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    “Stand for something…”

    yada yada yada … if you don’t know what liberals stand for yet, learn how to fucking read, retardo.

    We all know what wingos like YOU stand for:


    and, above all,


  35. 53

    Harry Tuttle spews:


    Place the blame where it belongs, Sarge, on Bill Frist. Frist’s position 9 days before the vote:

    WASHINGTON Jul 25, 2006 (AP)— Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said Tuesday he had abandoned plans to attach an estate tax cut to pension-overhaul legislation, removing one of the biggest obstacles to reaching a compromise on that bill.

    Frist had earlier considered the pensions bill as the most likely vehicle for the estate tax cut, which has passed the House but been thwarted in the Senate when brought up separately.

    But lawmakers negotiating the pensions legislation, including Senate Finance Committee Chairman Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, warned that inclusion of the estate tax, opposed by Democrats and at least one other Republican among the negotiators, Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine, could doom the needed vote for an agreement.

    But, FristyPants bet instead that he could make political hay by forcing the Democrats to oppose the bill. They opposed it, but I don’t think you righties will get much traction out of it.

  36. 54

    sgmmac spews:

    The Republicans in the US Senate are NO More “ruthless” than the Democrat senators in the Washington State Senate.

  37. 55

    sgmmac spews:

    I hope Mike! wouldn’t vote like Murray and Cantwell, they screwed us all 6 million plus of us out of a big federal income tax deduction to save a few bucks for those hundred thousand waitresses. The waitresses by the way, are going to pissed when they lose their biggest tax deduction.

  38. 56

    Proud To Be An Ass spews:

    JCH claim:

    [..RR, Now you KNOW that this is a lie. Most “trools” on HA.ORG could buy and sell you “several times over”.]

    Prove it.


  39. 57

    The Socialist spews:

    I hate that NYT select bull crap. they should let people read it for free the fashist basterds

  40. 58

    sgmmac spews:


    I don’t have a dealer and the stupid bill wasn’t taking away 5.50 an hour from all tipped employees. That figure is propaganda bullshit from the union. First, not all minimum wage employees make tips, as a matter of fact, probably very few of them do. Second, those employees have to “DECLARE” those tips for someone to take away the minimum wage.

    I don’t see Cantwell or Murray trying to protect the poor employees in this state who make a commission selling products in stores. You do know how that works – right? Those employees very frequently end up in the hole and bringing home minimum wage. Even though their company will say they get 10 bucks an hour, if they don’t sell enough product, because no-one comes in the store that day, the employee goes in the “hole.”

    I also don’t see either of those two Senators doing any damn thing about the totally outfuckingrageous interest rates that our minimum wage people are paying on their credit cards, car loans or payday loans.

    The IRS deduction for the state income tax is over 8% of your salary. People who are making minimum wage and barely making it are the ones who are paying up to 30 or 40% of their pay in those state consumption taxes. The loss of the exemption will cost me almost a thousand bucks and my daughter about 700 bucks.

    Have a great day, Fred!

  41. 60

    Roger Rabbit spews:


    Hey Danw … some idiot troll on this board thinks you’re Roger Rabbit … are you Roger Rabbit?

  42. 63

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Those of you who don’t know what a CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVE is may find the following information helpful:

    “When you cut right through it, right-wing ideology is just ‘dime-store economics’ – intended to dress their ideology up and make it look respectable. You don’t really need to know much about economics to understand it. They certainly don’t. It all gets down to two simple words. ‘Cheap labor’.

    “That’s their whole philosophy in a nutshell … cheap-labor conservatives are defenders of corporate America – whose fortunes depend on labor. The larger the labor supply, the cheaper it is. The more desperately you need a job, the cheaper you’ll work, and the more power those ‘corporate lords’ have over you. If you are a wealthy elite – or a ‘wannabe’ like most dittoheads – your wealth, power and privilege is enhanced by a labor pool forced to work cheap.

    “Don’t believe me. Well, let’s apply this principle, and see how many right-wing positions become instantly understandable.

    “Cheap-labor conservatives don’t like social spending or our ‘safety net’ … (b)ecause when you’re unemployed and desperate, corporations can pay you … next to nothing. You see, they want you ‘over a barrel’ and in a position to ‘work cheap or starve’.

    “Cheap-labor conservatives don’t like the minimum wage, or other improvements in wages and working conditions (because) these reforms undo all of their efforts to keep you ‘over a barrel’.

    “Cheap-labor conservatives like ‘free trade’, NAFTA, GATT, etc. … (b)ecause there is a huge supply of desperately poor people in the third world, who are ‘over a barrel’, and will work cheap.

    “Cheap-labor conservatives oppose a woman’s right to choose (because) unwanted children are an economic burden that put poor women ‘over a barrel’, forcing them to work cheap.

    “Cheap-labor conservatives don’t like unions … (b)ecause when labor ‘sticks together’, wages go up. …

    Cheap-labor conservatives constantly bray about ‘morality’, ‘virtue’, ‘respect for authority’, ‘hard work’ and other ‘values’ … (s)o they can blame your being ‘over a barrel’ on your own ‘immorality’, lack of ‘values’ and ‘poor choices’.

    “Cheap-labor conservatives encourage racism, misogyny, homophobia and other forms of bigotry. Why? Bigotry among wage earners distracts them, and keeps them from recognizing their common interests as wage earners.

    z”The Cheap-Labor Conservative ‘Dirty Secret': They Don’t Really Like Prosperity

    Maybe you don’t believe that cheap-labor conservatives like unemployment, poverty and ‘cheap labor’. Consider these facts. Unemployment was 23 percent when FDR took office in 1933. It dropped to 2.5 percent by time the next Republican was in the White House in 1953. It climbed back to 6.5 percent by the end of the Eisenhower administration. It dropped to 3.5 percent by the time LBJ left office. It climbed over 5 percent shortly after Nixon took office, and stayed there for 27 years, until Clinton brought it down to 4.5 percent early in his second term.

    “That same period – especially from the late forties into the early seventies – was the ‘golden age’ of the United States. We sent men to the moon. We built our Interstate Highway system. We ended segregation in the South and established Medicare. In those days, a single wage earner could support an entire family on his wages. …

    “These facts provide a nice background to evaluate cheap-labor conservative claims like ‘liberals are destroying America.’ In fact, cheap-labor conservatives have howled with outrage and indignation against New Deal liberalism from its inception in the 1930’s all the way to the present. You can go to ‘Free Republic’ or Hannity’s forum right now, and find a cheap-labor conservative comparing New Deal Liberalism to ‘Stalinism’.
    Cheap-labor conservatives opposed virtually all of the New Deal, including every improvement in wages and working conditions. …
    (They) have hated Social Security and Medicare since their inception. Many … are hostile to public education. They think it should be privatized. (They) opposed universal public education in its early days. … (They) hate the progressive income tax like the devil hates holy water. (They) like budget deficits and a huge national debt … (a) bankrupt government has a harder time doing any ‘social spending’ ….

    “The ugly truth is that cheap-labor conservatives just don’t like working people. They don’t like ‘bottom up’ prosperity, and the reason for it is very simple. Lords have a harder time kicking them around. Once you understand this about the cheap-labor conservatives, the real motivation for their policies makes perfect sense. Remember, cheap-labor conservatives believe in social hierarchy and privilege, so the only prosperity they want is limited to them. They want to see absolutely nothing that benefits the guy – or more often the woman – who works for an hourly wage. …

    “The more ignorant and destitute people there are – desperate for any job they can get – the cheaper the cheap-labor conservatives can get them to work. …

    “Every time you respond to a cheap-labor conservative …, look for the ‘cheap labor’ angle. Trust me, you’ll find it. I can even show you the ‘cheap labor’ angle in things like the ‘war on drugs’ and the absurd conservative opposition to alternative energy. Next, make that moniker – cheap-labor conservatives – your ‘standard reference’ to the other side. … If enough people will ‘get with the program’, it won’t be long before you can’t look at an editorial page, listen to the radio, turn on the TV, or log onto your favorite message board without seeing the phrase ‘cheap labor conservatives’ … every politically sentient American should understand exactly what a ‘cheap labor conservative’ is, and what he stands for.


    “’Less Government’ is the central defining right-wing slogan. And yes, it’s all about ‘cheap labor’. Included within the slogan ‘less government’ is the whole conservative set of assumptions about the nature of the ‘free market’ ….

    “In fact, the whole ‘public sector/private sector’ distinction is an invention … cheap-labor conservatives … say that the ‘private sector’ exists outside and independently of the ‘public sector’. The public sector, according to cheap-labor ideology, can only ‘interfere’ with the ‘private sector’, and that such ‘interference’ is ‘inefficient’ and ‘unprincipled’.

    “Using this ideology, the cheap-labor ideologue paints himself as a defender of ‘freedom’ against ‘big government tyranny’.

    “In fact, the whole idea that the ‘private sector’ is independent of the public sector is totally bogus … ‘the market’ is created by public laws, public institutions and public infrastructure.

    “But the cheap-labor conservative isn’t really interested in ‘freedom’. What the he wants is the ‘privatized tyranny’ of industrial serfdom, the main characteristic of which is – you guessed it – ‘cheap labor’. For proof, you need only look at exactly what constitutes ‘big government tyranny’ and what doesn’t.

    “It turns out that cheap-labor conservatives are BIG supporters of the most oppressive and heavy handed actions the government takes. (They) are consistent supporters of the generous use of capital punishment. They say that ‘government can’t do anything right’ – except apparently, kill people. Indeed, they exhibit … unconcern for the very possibility that the government might make a mistake and execute the wrong man.

    “Cheap-labor conservatives complain about the ‘Warren Court’ ‘handcuffing the police’ and giving ‘rights to criminals’. It never occurs to them, that our criminal justice system is set up to protect innocent citizens from abuses or just plain mistakes by government officials – you know, the ones who can’t do anything right.

    “Cheap-labor conservatives support the ‘get tough’ and ‘lock ‘em up’ approach to virtually every social problem …. As for the 2,000,000 people we have in jail today – a higher percentage of our population than any other nation on earth – they say our justice system is ‘too lenient’.

    “Cheap-labor conservatives – you know, the ones who believe in ‘freedom’ – say our crime problem is because … we’re too ‘permissive’. How exactly do you set up a ‘free’ society that isn’t ‘permissive’?

    “Cheap-labor conservatives want all the military force we can stand to pay for and never saw a weapons system they didn’t like. (They) support every right-wing authoritarian hoodlum in the third world. (They) support foreign assassinations, covert intervention in foreign countries, and every other ‘black bag’ operation the CIA can dream up, even against constitutional governments, elected by the people of those countries.

    “Cheap-labor conservatives support ‘domestic surveillance’ against ‘subversives’ – where ‘subversive’ means ‘everybody but them’. Cheap-labor believers in ‘freedom’ think it’s the government’s business if you smoke a joint or sleep with somebody of your own gender. (They) support our new concentration camp down at Guantanamo Bay … (and) ‘secret tribunals’ with ‘secret evidence’ and virtually no judicial review of the trials and sentences. Then they say that liberals are ‘Stalinists’.

    “And let’s not forget this perennial item on the agenda. Cheap-labor conservatives want to ‘protect our national symbol’ from ‘desecration’ … make the Pledge of Allegiance required by law. Of course, it is they who desecrate the flag every time they wave it to support their cheap-labor agenda … cheap-labor conservatives have a peculiar definition of ‘freedom’.

    “I mean, just what do these guys consider to be ‘tyranny’. That’s easy. Take a look.

    “’Social spending’ otherwise known as ‘redistribution’. While they don’t mind tax dollars being used for killing people, using their taxes to feed people is ‘stealing’.

    “Minimum wage laws.

    “Every piece of legislation ever proposed to improve working conditions, including the eight hour day, OSHA regulations, and even Child Labor laws.

    “Labor unions, who ‘extort’ employers by collectively bargaining.

    “Environmental regulations and the EPA.

    “Federal support and federal standards for public education.

    “Civil rights legislation … federal laws ending segregation were ‘tyranny’, but segregation itself was not.

    “Public broadcasting – which is virtually the only source for classical music, opera, traditional theatre, traditional American music …. This from the people constantly braying about the decay of ‘the culture’. The average cost of Public Television for each American is a whopping one dollar a year. ‘Its tyranny I tell you. Enough’s enough!’

    “See the pattern? Cheap-labor conservatives support every coercive and oppressive function of government, but call it ‘tyranny’ if government does something for you …. Even here, cheap-labor conservatives are complete hypocrites. Consider the following expenditures:

    “150 billion dollars a year for corporate subsidies.

    “300 billion dollars a year for interest payments on the national debt … that are a direct transfer to wealthy bond holders, and buy us absolutely nothing … the Defense budget – large chunks of which go to corporate defense contractors.

    “Is the pattern becoming clearer? These cheap-labor Republicans have no problem at all opening the public purse for corporate interests. It’s ‘social spending’ on people who actually need assistance that they just ‘can’t tolerate’. And now you know why. Destitute people work cheaper, while a harsh police state keeps them … terrorized.”


    Any questions about who the real terrorists are?

  43. 64

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    U.S. politics in the 21st century is easy to understand:

    “D” stands for patriot.
    “R” stands for traitor.

  44. 65

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    So Stefan … are you going to share your windfall from your lawsuit against Dean Logan and King County with the generous donors to your “legal action fund” who helped pay for the lawsuit, or drink it all yourself?

  45. 66

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Mike! McGavick doesn’t solve problems. He IS the problem. Especially if you’re a Safeco shareholder, policyholder, or “outsourced” ex-employee.

  46. 68

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    When the frozen seabed methane melts, God is gonna skip the rapture business and simply make all the fossil-fuel-burning humans dead.

  47. 69

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Now the CHEAP LABOR CONSERVATIVES want to empty the waitress tip jar into their own pockets … shame on them.

  48. 70

    Sigmund Freud spews:

    Relax Roger. Take one of your meds and have a nice little nappy. The world will still be here when you wake up.

  49. 72

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    10 million “new” illegal aliens ready to vote Democrat in California…….Note: The average education level is third grade. Enough said.

  50. 73

    LeftTurn spews:

    I’ve been saying this forever. We need to get busy, get dirty, play hardball and use every legal tactic at our disposal to rid the country of the Christian taliban. They are destroying America and those who want to ride the middle are as much a problem as those on the right.

    Turn LEFT!

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    LeftTurn spews:

    I’ve been saying this forever. We need to get busy, get dirty, play hardball and use every legal tactic at our disposal to rid the country of the Christian taliban. They are destroying America and those who want to ride the middle are as much a problem as those on the right.

    Turn LEFT!

  52. 75

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Left Turn, Time for some real “hardball”. You Lefties need to start swimming for Cuba. You’ll be happy there!!!

  53. 76

    For the Clueless spews:


    You mean like a wingnut? By the way ASS hows the letter writing campaign against me and Goldy going?

  54. 78

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Does anyone doubt how Mike! McGavick or RubberStampReichert would vote on the GOP bill to override state minimum wage laws and eliminate MW protection for tip workers?

    I have $5 that says they wouldn’t vote with Murray or Cantwell on this issue. Mark the Thieving Welsher is not eligible to participate in this debt until he pays the $100 bet he owes Goldy.

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    Roger Rabbit spews:


    I have a better suggestion … why don’t you take the whole fucking bottle of meds right now to make sure you DON’T wake up so the world will, in fact, still be here.

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    For the Clueless spews:

    I understand it is the only way to enact progressive policies while fending off political attacks from the right.

    In Washington State yes. However, half the country and the entire federal government is all about the far right. Fortunately in many places like Kansas, Colorado and Montana people are waking up to the lies promulgated by the far right and things are therefore looking hopeful for November.

    Democrats HAVE made gains. State legislatures are just about at 50-50 now. Dems in 2004 took more governorships and without the house seats that Tom DeLay stole, the Dems would have made a 3 seat gain. The trend IS going for the Dems.

    In order to fight off the out-of-mainstream, far-right, radical hyperpartisans of the Republican party – vote Democrat.

  57. 82

    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    Roger, Like GBS, a little brig time with only bread and water might improve your attitude toward commissioned officers.

  58. 83

    Sigmund Freud spews:

    Now, now Roger – remember your blood pressure. You’re not a young bunny anymore, and you might stroke-out if you get too excited.

    Just lie down for a while and think happy thought.

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    Doctor JCH Kennedy spews:

    The trolls are nothing but minimum-wage college students working for one or another of the big-business-funded GOP front groups that pop up like dandelions.

    Commentby Roger Rabbit [..RR, Now you KNOW that this is a lie. Most “trools” on HA.ORG could buy and sell you “several times over”.]