by Carl, 12/18/2013, 5:15 PM

I’m feeling like crap, so I’m heading to bed as soon as I get home. If I’m feeling better (or knowing me if I just can’t sleep) later on, I’ll post something. But otherwise, zzzzzzzzzz for me. Here are some topics:

- Christmas recipes

- Newtonmass recipes

- Carl is a dummy for walking to DL when he was already feeling a bit down.

- Carl should have taken his car, so it’s his own fault.

- How this won’t change Carl’s WARONCARZ stances, that are totally real.

- Something something Ed Murray

- Socialism!

- Communism!

- Is there a difference between the two?

- Obama

- Thanks Obama!


- Oh, the Senate passed a shitty budget, but it’s probably better than the sequester budget.

- Get well soon, Carl*

- The State GOP. What, why?**

- How many pieces on this list before it feels like it’s just padding?

- Have we hit that already?

- Was it somewhere between “Here are some topics” and “Christmas recipes” or did it manage to be before that?

- Does Carl know his stupid lists are stupid, and even worse when he’s only going at 50% at the most?

- Whatever you want: you’re an adult

* You really don’t have to: I’ll be fine.

** I don’t have anything in mind, but I haven’t looked. There’s probably something: there usually is.

52 Responses to “Bonus Open Thread!!!!!!!!!!”

1. Roger Rabbit spews:

“- Oh, the Senate passed a shitty budget, but it’s probably better than the sequester budget.”

Unless you’re about to retire from the military.

2. Roger Rabbit spews:

Gee, Carl, I’m sorry you’ve got the bug. I know how you feel. I had it last week.

3. Deathfrogg spews:

In politics, there’s always been this rather weird mix of civility and outright rudeness that can be appalling at times. This is a primary example of the latter. It isn’t so much as the TeaPottie people are even cognizant of their general attitude towards people, they happen to be the most incredibly tribalistic people I’ve ever come across. It really is deliberate on their part. They ENJOY being racist, ignorant and generally nasty fucked-up people. They ENJOY being rude and boorish. It is a major aspect of their personalities, and they don’t even pretend to hide it much of the time.

They don’t even care to think about what comes out of their mouths. It doesn’t bother them at all, that they sound like a loosely-knit group of utterly uncivil imbeciles. They aren’t the kind of people most folks outside of their little bullshit tribe would ever invite to dinner anyway so they don’t have to care. They have each other. They have their little gossip-group of shallow and selfish “friends” who you know damn well would stab them in the back as soon as they got the chance.

I’ve seen that up close. The nastiest, most inconsiderate behavior was amongst the people at the church my dad went to for a few years. It finally came to a head when someone told him flat out that I wasn’t welcome, simply because I had (and continue to have) a “jewfro” and really didn’t look very “christian”. It was the one event I can remember being that reason for never setting foot in a church ever again.

I don’t understand what these lunatics are trying to accomplish by this. Who the fuck do they think they’re going to impress with that attitude? All it does is alienate folks who do take some effort with being polite in uncertain circumstances.

4. Ten Years After - Roger Rabbit is just a liberal progressive troll. spews:

From 3,

Yes, quite true. Similar types of boorish behavior exists in the anarchists who break windows and throw stones at cops on May 1st.

5. Deathfrogg spews:

@ 4

You mean the undercover Cops that were doing that right? It’s already been established that was what was going on. The SFPD, OPD, NYPD and the SPD have already admitted to doing that.

It was the Police themselves smashing windows and spraypainting things and starting fights. Especially at the OWS riot in Oakland a couple years ago. They were caught on fucking camera doing it.

6. YLB spews:

Greeting fellow liberals!

Couldn’t resist. Any old timers remember this crap?

Tell me you three sniveling drooling libtard sycophants what will you do when you feel inflation begin with all that money eventually appearing in the marketplace? What will you do when the wallet pain sets in? Who you gonna call? Ghostbusters?.. So your three kings of loquaciousness, tell us all about it…


Happy Holidays!

7. Ten Years After - Roger Rabbit is just a liberal progressive troll. spews:

From 5,

No, I mean the kids who all dress and look like Curt Colbain, except when they’re engaging in their anarchist activities.

Some cops may be doing the same thing: I wouldn’t put it past them, but the kids KIRO showed being charged for May Day crimes are the ones I’m talking about.

I’m not a big fan of cops, and I’m not a big fan of anarchist groups like the Earth Liberation Front who think it’s fun to burn down buildings on the UW campus.

8. Ten Years After - Roger Rabbit is just a liberal progressive troll. spews:

From 5,

No, I’m talking about all the kids who dress and want to look like Curt Colbain, except during the May Day protests.

Cops may be engaged in those activities, too, but I’m more concerned about the self-entitled young people who think the world owes them a living.

9. Roger Rabbit spews:

@6 Well waddya know — back in Feb. 2009, when he should have been backing up the truck to the stock exchange, our resident genius Puddyidiot wasted his time posting nonsense about how QE was going to cause hyperinflation.

He was drinking the rightwing Kool-Aid.

I saw this — and still see it — a lot in financial and investing blog comments by rightwingers. The “reasoning” goes: The Federal Reserve is “printing” a lot of money, therefore we’re going to have hyperinflation. It belongs in the same wastebasket as claims that cold winters prove global warming is a hoax.

I hate to pop puddy’s bubble, but DEFLATION not inflation is what the Fed is worried about. You know, as in “deflationary death spiral”? Does anyone need me to explain how that works?

If Puddy had spent Feb. 2009 buying truckloads of stocks, instead of frittering away his waking hours on quack economic theories, he wouldn’t have to work now. He’d be sleeping ’til noon every day, like I do.

Oh, and btw, my take from today’s stock market surge was $6,016. That sure beats working for wages.

10. Roger Rabbit spews:

Puddy is a fucking moron on countless levels.

11. Roger Rabbit spews:

@7 Who’s in favor of breaking windows and throwing rocks, except the people doing it? We’re certainly not. What’s your point? Do you have one?

12. Roger Rabbit spews:

A little-publicized feature of the compromise budget deal that has passed both Houses of Congresses and is waiting for President Obama’s signature is that free online access to dead people’s social security numbers will be no more.

The Social Security Administration will still maintain its so-called “death index,” but access will now be restricted, because identity thieves have been exploiting the index.

Roger Rabbit Commentary: Richard Nixon’s social security number is 567-68-0515. Go for it! His reputation couldn’t possibly get any worse than it already is.

13. Ten Years After - Roger Rabbit is just a liberal progressive troll. spews:

Did anyone in our government ever think that maybe we have terrorist activities done against us because we have been messing around those terrorists’ countries internal affairs? Maybe we’re getting the harvest from the seeds we sowed decades ago?

14. Roger Rabbit spews:

If you’re one of those window-smashing undercover cops pretending to be an anarchist, use that number on your booking forms the next time you’re arrested. Most cops are wingnuts, and when their computer IDs you, they’ll probably let you go.

15. Ten Years After - Roger Rabbit is just a liberal progressive troll. spews:

From 7,

Deathfrog implied that the people doing all the May Day damage were really all cops. That may be true that cops did bad things, but there are lots of unwise young people engaging in anarchist activities on May Day. That’s all I was talking about.

16. Roger Rabbit spews:

@13 “Did anyone in our government ever think that maybe we have terrorist activities done against us because we have been messing around those terrorists’ countries internal affairs?”

Yeah, I think they’ve noticed that. That’s why they’re not real shocked when CIA stations get blown up and undercover CIA guys disappear.

17. Roger Rabbit spews:

@15 Are you implying old people don’t do unwise things?

18. Roger Rabbit spews:

Dumb kids throwing rocks through windows don’t do remotely as much damage as dumb adults who start preemptive wars. A window costs hundreds of dollars, but a war costs trillions.

19. Deathfrogg spews:

Down in the insurance fraud capital of the country, Rick Scott was able to buy the Governors office with money stolen from the Medicare system, and has used his office to protect himself from further investigation. Meanwhile, he owns the company that has the sole-source, no-bid contract to drug test anyone applying for unemployment or workmens compensation benefits.

I wonder how much of that $2 Billion he swindled from the Federal Government ended up in the GOP campaign coffers? It was certain that the Bush administration was protecting him, as well as the bankers in New York City that somehow managed to make nearly $14 Trillion disappear out of the Treasury without a trace.

20. Steve (Pudge, who is my bitch, can't ban shit) spews:

In case MikeBoyScout is around, the comment Pudge wants no one to read. He can’t delete it and ban commenters fast enough. Good luck to Pudge with that as I’ve only got 64,995 more IP addresses and sockpuppets yet to unleash. Anyway, Mike, here it is,

“If you weren’t insinuating that there was nepotism”

I’d say the insinuation was in the original post, but once he got into the comments, Pudge directly accused the DelBenes of nepotism several times. Since this accusation is directed towards Congresswoman DelBene, she is, in fact, being accused by Pudge of having committed an ethics violation per US Code as referenced in comments above. What is unfortunate is that Pudge makes this accusation without offering any evidence at all that Congresswoman DelBene in any way advocated for a relative, as advocacy is required by US Code to have occurred for there to be nepotism, also noted in comments above. Simply being married to someone is in no way evidence of a federal public official advocating for a spouse’s employment or appointment.

Look at it this way. If the husband had promoted a relative at Microsoft, a disgruntled co-worker might go to a dictionary to better understand the meaning of the word nepotism to see if there’s an issue. But if one suspects Congresswoman Suzan DelBene of nepotism, you need to go to US Code. When it comes to nepotism, the private sector and public sector are horses of different colors. If you accuse a federal public official of nepotism, you have a higher bar to clear than a disgruntled private sector employee. In these comments, Pudge hasn’t once come close to clearing that bar.

Really, the subject of nepotism should never have been brought up at all. If anyone is to be blamed for that, it can only be Pudge for putting that word in the title of his post. He should have backed off immediately. Unfortunately, instead he doubled and then tripled down on his baseless accusations.

Posted by Charles S. at December 19, 2013 09:21 AM

21. Roger Rabbit spews:

@20 You think pudge cares about any of that? And does anyone care what chicken scratchings he litters Washington’s least-influential blog with?

22. Steve (Pudge, who is my bitch, can't ban shit) spews:

“And does anyone care what chicken scratchings he litters Washington’s least-influential blog with?”

Heh. I do. But only because he’s my bitch.

23. Steve (Pudge, who is my bitch, can't ban shit) spews:

“Greeting fellow liberals!”

Hey! Glad to see you’re still kicking! I hadn’t been around here much, but enough to notice that you weren’t posting. I was considering sending a private email to see if you were OK. I hope all is well!

24. YLB spews:

23 – Steve! Everything is great! Nobody’s sick or anything bad like that. Just thought I’d step back for a while and see what happens.

Another poke of the stick. Where’s the inflation again?


Happy Holidays fellow liberals!

25. Roger Rabbit spews:

New Mexico’s Supreme Court ruled today that same-sex marriage is a constitutional right under the state constitution’s equal protection clause and public authorities can’t refuse to issue marriage licenses to gay couples. Current New Mexico law neither authorizes nor prohibits same-sex marriages.

26. Ekim spews:

Happy Holidays fellow liberals!

Right back at you!
It’s good to be a liberal! :-)

27. Roger Rabbit spews:

@24 Fans of wingnut economic theories bitterly opposed fiscal and monetary stimulus. They were egregiously wrong on both counts. Fiscal austerity plunged Europe into depression-like conditions, and the Federal Reserve’s monetary stimulus didn’t cause inflation. If our policymakers listened to these dingbats we’d be re-living the 1930s.

28. Roger Rabbit spews:

Well waddya know — when Detroit went bankrupt, BANKS got preferential treatment in secret backroom deals while pensioners were thrown under the bus.

Roger Rabbit Commentary: Is anyone shocked that banks are the most hated institution in America? They’ve earned it.

29. Roger Rabbit spews:

“The judge questioned why Detroit agreed to pay 75 to 82 cents on the dollar to these banks — all the while reportedly offering 16 cents on the dollar to pensioners.”

Speaks for itself.

30. Roger Rabbit spews:

Looks like the Republican state officials who seized control of Detroit and put their lackey in charge of city finances are doing what Republicans do best: Protecting bankers at the expense of municipal workers and pensioners.

31. Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

Dan Savage reviews Sarah Palin’s book….

Twenty children and six teachers were shot dead in their classrooms by a deranged asshole with a “powerful gun.” And before the grieving mothers and fathers of Newtown, Connecticut, could put their dead children in the ground, Sarah Palin ran out gun shopping. Buying Todd a gun in the wake of the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary was “fun,” Palin writes—and, again, an act of “civil disobedience.” Because gun nuts are a persecuted minority.


Sarah Palin is a shit-talking pimp who makes money playing to the carefully cultivated persecution complexes of conservative Christian rubes who wouldn’t know what religious persecution was if it sat on their faces and shit in their mouths.

I love Dan Savage.

32. Roger Rabbit spews:

Food contamination kills over 3,000 Americans a year, almost three-fourths the combat toll of the entire Iraq War, but Republicans are objecting to FDA regulations that would require farmers to make sure field hands use a potty and wash their hands instead of pissing and pooping in the fields like starving peasants do in North Korea.

Roger Rabbit Commentary: Republicans don’t care if your loved ones die from e.Coli; maximizing the profits of large corporate farms is waaay more important to them.

33. Roger Rabbit spews:

The New Economy Explained

In the old days, people got rich by making others rich. Now, they
get rich by making others poor.

34. EvergreenRailfan spews:

25)I believe that their may have been attempts previously, by both sides, legislatively, but the bills never went too far in the Roundhouse(the nickname for the New Mexico State Capitol). South of the border, progress is slow, but it has been made in Mexico itself. It’s legal in two states, and Mexico City, but the latter is interesting. Marriages performed in Mexico City, have to be recognized nationwide. One recent court case, which only effects one couple, was in the State of Chihuahua, which borders two American States, one with a Constitutional Amendment banning marriage equality, Texas, and another where the State Supreme Court just legalized it, New Mexico. In Mexico, it does not become a precedent with just one case, it takes about 5.

35. Roger Rabbit spews:

Under Obamacare, private insurers’ new business model for dealing with patients who have expensive medical problems is to not insure them. Oh wait, that’s the same as their old business model before Obamacare! But now that they aren’t allowed to kick the patients off their insurance rolls, they drop their doctors instead.

Roger Rabbit Commentary: Socialist medicine is looking better every minute. I mean, what good is capitalist medical care if the only people who can get it are those who aren’t sick? When you’re sick, CommieCare is better than NoCare.

36. EvergreenRailfan spews:

35) In Switzerland, the private insurers found ways to live with their health insurance law, and although it’s an individual mandate, basic health insurance cannot be for profit, but supplemental policies can.

37. EvergreenRailfan spews:

The Illinois DoT issued Siemens a Notice of Intent to Award(means a contract may follow) for high speed diesel-electric passenger locomotives. I believe Indiana-based Cummins will provide Diesel prime movers, but Siemens US plant is in California, who like Washington, Michigan, and Missouri, will be piggybacking on Illinois’s order.

The locomotives will be meeting the stricter EPA Tier 4 emissions mandate.

38. EvergreenRailfan spews:

Both Montana Senators are pushing for an extra stop on the Empire Builder. They say it is needed for Bakken workers.–38806

39. Very Severe Conservative spews:

Any and all snow related traffic problems today are the direct fault of Obomacare! REPEAL!

40. Very Severe Conservative spews:

And that my post is in the wrong thread is Obomacare’s fault too!

41. No Time for Fascists spews:

Harry Reid is hospitalized. Free Republic cheers.
Nasty bunch there.

I’ve observed him. Diagnosis. He’s a commie/maxist/socialist/liberal pos. Strong meds needed. With the mental disorder associated with with CMSL he should be removed from his post and put out to pasture. The feds own 85% of NV so there ought to be plenty of places to, uh, sequester his sorry ass.

“We look forward to his speedy recovery.”

I don’t. Drop dead traitor.

42. No Time for Fascists spews:

BILL MOYERS: We are so close to losing our democracy to the mercenary class, it’s as if we are leaning way over the rim of the Grand Canyon and all that’s needed is a swift kick in the pants. Look out below.

Look at Detroit. The Banksters win. That’s our future if we don’t sacrifice and change it.

43. No Time for Fascists spews:

From a comment about Lockheed Martin pulling funding from the Boy Scouts because of of the discrimination policies.

Only 1.7% of the US population is homosexual which in reality is a very small minority.. [...] what Phil Robertson said would be more approaching the truth and shouldn’t be considered a violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution.. He certainly has his 1st Amendment rights but they seem to have been violated by the groups opposing his interview in the magazine.

So the logic is that because there are a lot more Christians, they get to say anything they want without consequences? He seems to have a blinding assumption of entitlement and privilege.

44. Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

Sarah Palin

“Free speech is endangered species; those ‘intolerants’ hatin’ & taking on Duck Dynasty patriarch for voicing personal opinion take on us all,” she tweeted.

Mrs. Betty Bowers, America’s Best Christian

NOTE TO SARAH PALIN: I’ve been looking for your tweet supporting Martin Bashir’s right to free speech. Any help would be enthusiastically appreciated. TIA!

45. Deathfrogg spews:

@ 44 LS

yeah, Sarah Palin, who took the press along to document her purchase of a brand new AR-15 for her husband the day after the Sandy Hook school massacre.

46. Ekim spews:

13. Ten Years After – Roger Rabbit is just a liberal progressive troll. spews:

Did anyone in our government ever think that maybe we have terrorist activities done against us because we have been messing around those terrorists’ countries internal affairs? Maybe we’re getting the harvest from the seeds we sowed decades ago?

You mean like the *Cheney administration going into Iraq?

Quick quiz: Of all the claims made against Iraq, which one has stood the test of time?

Answer: Iraq sits on the world’s 2nd largest oil reserve.

(* GW was busy trying to read My Pet Goat upside down and couldn’t be bothered by unimportant details.)

47. Roger Rabbit spews:

@45 Just to demonstrate how moronic the right is, I had some wingnut call me a hypocrite in the Seattle Times comment threads yesterday for saying racism and homophobia shouldn’t be tolerated by society. Apparently that makes me a “hypocrite” because if I was tolerant I would tolerate intolerance.

48. Ekim spews:

Rabbit @47,

Racism and homophobia are 2 of the 3 legs of REICH wing TEHADIST belief system. (Religious bigotry is the 3rd leg.

49. Ekim spews:

If the TEHADISTS get their way and manage to promote a STATE CHRISTIAN RELIGION, which flavor of CHRISTIAN BELIEF will it be? And which BIBLE will become the STATE BIBLE?

50. Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:


Don’t forget sexism.

51. Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:


You’re getting at the essential fascist nature of the modern right wing…

–”Disagreement is Treason”
–Fear of difference – racist, anti-immigrant, religious bigotry
–Pitting middle class against poor
–Hyped-up enemy threat/xenophobia/permanent war
–Newspeak – impoverished vocabulary to limit critical thought
–Contempt for the weak

These were Umberto Eco’s features of a fascist state.

Often included also are authoritarian, anti-feminist, anti-gay, and corporatist/crony-capitalist.

Sound familiar??

52. Liberal Scientist is the "Most vile leftist on this blog!" spews:

Essential to many iterations of fascism is the notion of a mystical, national “re-birth” from the (alleged) corrupt and degraded and bastardized – remember the “precious bodily fluids” of Dr. Strangelove?

The technical term for such mystical national rebirth is palingenic ultranationalism.