Bad Excuses

Sorry, I’m still writing about Anthony Weiner. His personal life isn’t of concern to me, nor is the fact that he lied about his personal life, but harassing women concerns me greatly. There is another side to Nick’s piece that I linked to in the open thread that “female members of the House Democratic leadership, as well as the female members of the rank-and-file, are actually personally upset” with his conduct. Namely, Democrats are the party of everyone gets a seat at the table, and as such we have more women in leadership and the rank and file, so more of our leadership and rank and file have got harassing nonsense at work or, for participating in politics, and are less likely to forgive it.

I’ve been thinking about what isn’t a good excuse for such behavior. So here’s a partial list of things that aren’t a good excuses for sending nude pictures of yourself or other harassing email/tweets/Facebook messages without consent:

  • It’s the Internet, what do you expect?
  • Other people cheat
  • Other people are doing/have done something worse
  • It was a joke
  • Don’t you have a sense of humor
  • It’s not a big deal
  • He’s a good Congressman
  • One of them was a Porn Star, so it’s OK
  • Come on
  • He’s taking on corporate crime, and that’s worse
  • You’re playing into the hands of the GOP
  • You’re playing into the hands of Breitbart
  • You’re playing into the hands of corporate crooks

Comments

  1. 1

    Michael spews:

    Um… The last three would seem to be your idea of invalid reasons to complain about it, not excuses for the behavior.

  2. 2

    Farley Mowat spews:

    It comes down to the fact that the GOP circles the wagons, re Vitter and others. The Dems want to claim they have a larger ‘guilt gene’ than the pubbies. It never works as the GOP with the backing of larger donors are ‘more respectable’.

  3. 3

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    Memo to Ann Coulter: “It was a joke” isn’t a good excuse for public advocacy of throwing liberals in concentration camps and executing them, either. I mean, some nutjob might take you seriously, ya know? See, e.g., Congresswoman Giffords and six dead people (including a nine-year-old kid) in Arizona, for example.

  4. 4

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @2 GOPers haven’t been respectable since Eisenhower left office, and even his respectability is questionable, given that he tolerated having Tricky Dick as his veep.

  5. 5

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    We don’t tolerate sexual harassers in our party. The GOP has to, or they wouldn’t have anyone in their party.

  6. 6

    Michael spews:

    @5

    We don’t tolerate sexual harassers in our party.

    Except when we do. Like when a whole bunch of folks on HA tried to use every excuse in the book to say Weiner should stay.

    I reposted a few of the comments calling me a prude, a puritan, and like, for my insistence that Wiener step to down my Face Book page. My friends and family got a real hoot out of those.

  7. 7

    question spews:

    A Taylor Swift song speaks to Weiner and all the pathetic bastards that try to defend his douchebag actions!

    All you are is mean and a liar and pathetic and alone in life
    And mean, and mean, and mean, and mean

  8. 9

    Americafirst spews:

    @3. Roger Rabbit spews:
    Memo to Ann Coulter: “It was a joke” isn’t a good excuse for public advocacy of throwing liberals in concentration camps and executing them, either. I mean, some nutjob might take you seriously, ya know? See, e.g., Congresswoman Giffords and six dead people (including a nine-year-old kid) in Arizona, for example.
    ———————————————
    Finally a good point from you. Such decisions are nothing to joke about and should only be based upon valid national security grounds.

  9. 10

    spews:

    All you are is mean and a liar and pathetic and alone in life
    And mean, and mean, and mean, and mean

    LOL! She had right wing trolls in mind.

  10. 11

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @6 There were three camps: Those who thought he should leave, those who didn’t condone his actions but thought would leave it up to his constituents, and those who wanted to trade Weiner for Vitter (why reward Republican obstinacy by giving them a voting advantage they didn’t earn at the polls?). There are reasonable arguments for all of those positions.

  11. 12

    Roger Rabbit spews:

    @9 “Such decisions are nothing to joke about and should only be based upon valid national security grounds.”

    This is a fucking joke, right? If rounding up people can be justified “upon valid national security grounds” then let’s start with your ilk.

  12. 14

    Xar spews:

    @Carl: Have any of the women complained? Note: not saying that it’s okay if no one complained, but at least the one transcript we’ve seen suggests that the woman literally asked Weiner for the pictures. If that was true of all of them, would your outrage diminish? I’m not okay with sexual harassment (and indiscriminate distribution of crotch shots counts as sexual harassment), but have we seen any evidence that he ever sent them out indiscriminately?

    To put it another way, if it was an attractive woman sending pictures to random men and all of them enjoyed the pictures, would you be as outraged?

  13. 15

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    I mean, some nutjob might take you seriously, ya know? See, e.g., Congresswoman Giffords and six dead people (including a nine-year-old kid) in Arizona, for example.

    Roger DUMB Rabbit, the nutjob was a leftist who didn’t think Giffords was leftist enough. Man you are really taking the stupid pills today.

    NOW onto Weiner. Apparently you missed how the Brooklyn/Queens NOW Chapter had no real issue with WeinerSchnitzel.

    The head of the Brooklyn/Queens chapter of the National Organization for Women said she could separate Weiner’s sexcapades from the liberal track record that earned the group’s support.

    “I wasn’t happy to discover that my congressman is a 14-year-old boy,” said Julie Kirshner, president of the NOW chapter.

    “But he happens to be one of the best politicians out there, so we’re in a bad position. We’re trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.”

    So can some HA leftist explain the benefit of the doubt part.
    There’s no doubt he sent to women across the country images of his naked stupid self, yet we see how the elitist NOW is a leftist organization with that last sentence!

  14. 16

    spews:

    the nutjob was a right winger who didn’t think Giffords was enough of an Ayn Rand lover like Paul Ryan

    Corrected!

  15. 17

    spews:

    explain the benefit of the doubt part.

    It’s easy to give the benefit of the doubt to grown man acting from time to time like a 14 year old boy.

    Not so easy to excuse a grown man-child who is DRIVEN to keep women in shackles..

    Like the typical right wing nutjob.

  16. 18

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    Once again yelling lost beta copies his alpha.

    The evidence proved beyond the shadow of a doubt Jared Loughner was a leftist.

    But yelling lost beta keep being a dope alive.

    Lt. General Russel Honore pegged you long ago: “You’re Stuck on Stupid“.

    He knew you before he met you!

  17. 19

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    BTW left wingers, Anthony Weiner has not submitted his resignation letter.

  18. 20

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    Not so easy to excuse a grown man-child who is DRIVEN to keep women in shackles..

    Talking about yourself again eh yelling loser beta… lover of sha’ria law!

  19. 21

    spews:

    20 – Talking about you and your ilk dummy!

    I believe women should have the same autonomy as a man and that means reproductive freedom.

    You’re always going on and on about some lunatic conspiracy. If you don’t like reproductive liberty and freedom – don’t exercise it – just let nature take its course for you and yours. I could give a flip.

    Just don’t tread on me and mine right wing nutjob.

  20. 22

    spews:

    lover of sha’ria law

    Yawwwwnn… Projection..

    Cain is already backing away from that bullshit.

    Imagine that – he has just a pinch more sense than you do.

  21. 24

    spews:

    The evidence proved beyond the shadow of a doubt Jared Loughner was a right winger.

    Yep, a unbalanced lust for gold and Ayn Rand’s “We the Living” being the preferred reading material of both Loughner and Paul Ryan.

  22. 25

    spews:

    Stuck on Stupid

    PERFECT description of Puddybud blather here over 30-35 THOUSAND comments since late April 2005.

  23. 26

    Puddybud, identifying northwest liberals who elected an underexperienced man to the presidency weighed down by an oversized ego spews:

    Was a cogent thought delivered between #21-25?

    Nope it was from the HA databaze dope!

    See ya!